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Inder Singh

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  1. SGPC and akal takhat had taken this issue before Dal Khalsa.It is understood that objectionable letetr has been already removed.SGPC president has been informed about this.
  2. Spokesman editor is an excommunicated person from sikh panth. If you like him follow him out of panth. Do not tout him here. That rogue writes that Sikhs had only one Guru.He did not give gurgaddi to anyone. He also writes that SGGS was not compiled by Guru Arjan Dev ji. Our personal vichars are irrelevant. We discuss panthic matters here. This is what spokesman is all about. Read below 17 ਮਈ 2009 ਨੂੰ ਚੰਡੀਗੜ੍ਹ ਦੇ ਸੈਕਟਰ 46 ਦੇ ਗੁਰਦੁਆਰਾ ਸਾਹਿਬ ‘ਚ ਪ੍ਰਸਿੱਧ ਇਤਿਹਾਸਕਾਰ ਡਾ: ਹਰਜਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਦਿਲਗੀਰ ਦੇ ਸਤਿਕਾਰਯੋਗ ਮਾਤਾ ਬੀਬੀ ਜਗਤਾਰ ਕੌਰ ਜੀ, ਜੋ ਕਿ ਪਿਛਲੇ ਦਿਨੀਂ ਅਕਾਲ ਚਲਾਣਾ ਕਰ ਗਏ ਸਨ, ਦੇ ਨਮਿਤ ਰੱਖੇ ਗਏ ਗੁਰਮਤਿ ਸਮਾਗਮ ਦੇ
  3. Two beers were compiled during Guru sahib's time called hazuri beer and patna beer. The years were 1696 and 1698. One of the beer , Patna beer, is available on the net. If you have any questions on Dasam granth post it in the section earmarked for the discussions for Dasam granth.Those questions would be as a seeker and not as a doubter. This thread is not for raising doubt on Dasam granth. This site accepts Dasam granth in toatality. We need to respect forum guidelines. Nihungs are the ones who were original dal khalsa and they were keepers of Dasam Granth.They have all banis in their beer
  4. Why should have it again? We cann't have these committees now and again.It has been decided once for all. Moreover this is not the point of discussion. That is exactly what we need - but the sad part is when our jathedars are chosen by anti-pathic leaders/people - they will not allow the true scholars to come forward into the debate forums. We need a committee of scholars set up - who know about the topic in order to come to a resolution and present that to akal takht without becoming personal. This is what SGPC and dhram parchar comittee should be doing - but unfortunatley it looks as t
  5. The picture given by panthic weekly has nothing to do with RSS.It shows meeting of Darshan Ragi with Rrajiv's agent Shushil Muni. That time he was jathedar of akal takhat. Presence of baba thakar singh ji indicates nothing.It seems to be an open meeting. The issue here is role of anti panthic groups of UK who are supporting heretic ragi Darshan by excuses. If they were not in the meeting but their names were there in the ad. They are right when they say those who do not accept Dasam granth in totality are not sikhs. Sikhism accepts Dasam granth in toatality. There is no pick and choose.
  6. There are anti sikh moles whose job is to hijack the thread. Suffice to say that parkash of Dasam garnth is not issue. SGGS is Guru of sikhs and Dasam Granth , i repeat whole, is second most scared scripture of sikhs. Those who doubt whole of dasam granth are violating guidelines of this site and sikh rehat maryada.
  7. Some verses from dasam bani ਭਜੋਂ ਸੁ ਏਕ ਨਾਮਯੰ ॥ ਜੁ ਕਾਮ ਸਰਬ ਠਾਮਯੰ ॥ I recite only the Name of the Lord, which is useful at all places. (Bachittar Natak) ਨ ਧਿਆਨ ਆਨ ਕੋ ਧਰੋਂ ॥ ਨ ਨਾਮ ਆਨ ਉਚਰੋਂ ॥38॥ I do not meditate on anyone else, nor do I repeat the Name of anyone else. ||38|| (Bachittar Natak) ਚਰਨ ਸਰਨ ਜਿਹ ਬਸਤ ਭਵਾਨੀ ॥ The goddess Durga takes refuge at the feet of Eternal and abides there. Dasam Granth sahib * ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਉਬਾਰ ਨ ਸਕਹੈ ਜਾਕਰ ਨਾਮ ਰਟੈ ਹੈ॥ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਬਿਸ਼ਨ ਰੁਦ੍ਰ ਸੂਰਹ ਸਸਿ ਤੇ ਬਸਿ ਕਾਲ ਸਭੈ ਹੈ ॥੧ (ਸ. ਹਜਾਰੇ) * Ram and Rahim whose names you are uttering cant save you. Brahma, Vishnu Shiva, Sun
  8. It is my appeal to gursikhs that they should read Dasam Granth themselves.You will find that how much false propaganda is being carried out against bani that gives us our identity. If there is one sikh scripture that denounces brahminism in a very resolute language that is Dasam granth. Read it and stand for bani of Dasam pita. Wake up as some anti sikh forces are depriving us from our heritage and from source of inspiration.Only way you can rebut them if you have knowledge of dasam granth sahib's bani yourselves.
  9. Such meetings are arranged by a few Kala afghani groups in US as well.They said that they were going to hold meeting about Ludhiana firing.But that was a deceptive tactic employed by them.The real intent was to support blasphemy of Ragi darshan in a deceitful way. They were finally exposed and even beaten by sangat in one of the meetings. In the same way yesterday meeting was not about calender.It was an agenda to show support for blasphemic ragi and please their boss who is boss of ragi as well.
  10. This is friend of this group of so called AKJ , UK bad mouthing sikh struggle. Once they befriend such anti sikh people they can not hide their agenda.
  11. It has nothing to do with gurgaddi to SGGS ji.That nobody disputes. It is about blasphemy of heretics who are disowning dasam bani.It is about a group who is hijacking the name of AKJ but following nastik kala afghanis.It is about exposing these heretics who have no link with AKJ of India but using that name and doing anti sikh things.
  12. Maimoorakh ji Sikhs have traditions of 300 years that they are following. Kala afghana school sprang up 12 years back. It is they who are spreading propaganda against not only Dasam granth sahib but also against other sikh philosophy. A few of those are given below. 1) There is no Gurmantra for sikhs 2) Amritvela has no significance in sikhism 3) No use of naam simran 4) No incarnation in sikhism. 5) There is nothing like soul in a person. 6) Sikhs had only one guru. 7) No poroof that gurgaddi was given to SGGS ji and no proof that guru Arjan dEv ji compiled it. 8) To bow before SGGS
  13. What is in you mind veer ji? What does your heart tell you? He is doubting charitropakhayan.He has not even read it and believes in hearsays. Charitropakhayan is cautionary and not entertaining as these perverts try to propagate. When you want to caution others about moral degradation or ill effects of unbridled kam ( sex) you have to write in that language to make people to understand. He does not know that one of our bajjar kurehit comes from charitropakhayn.That bajjar kurehit is not to indulge in extra marital affair. i am not from Damdami taksal.I do not know what they do. But i
  14. MKoorakh ji wrote I do not celebrate my birthday. We celebrate our gurus birthday and it had been a tradition to do do so since guru period. Moorakh ji wrote We get so many things from internet.we need to use our mind also before forwarding such lies especially when they concern our scripture.So you do not have the refrenece of what you posted . You should say that you were wrong as no such letter exists.It is a propaganda by kala afghana forces and atheists. Charitroplahayan is a writing of tenth master and purpose is to caution khalsa from moral pitfalls. it is for gurmukh jogis an
  15. That shows where you stand. Sikhs do not adopt deceitful tactics. The lines you have given above mean that it is akal purakh who have created these figures. These are no different than what is written in jap ji sahib Guru issar Gur gorakh barma Gur parbati mai Dear inder i am not clever....main sirf inna lines de tartib vaar meaning pta karna chahunda ha...je assin sri guru granth sahib de har hukumnaamey da meaning kar sakdey ha...te fir kyon nahi isdian sb lines da meaning tussi mainu line wise dasdey....veerey...tussi aap hi daso...main iss baarey kis kolo pucha...? The meaning
  16. Do not equate Gurus birthday to that of yours. Gurus birthday dates have to be when they were born. You have not understood what i tried to convey.When guru nanak dev ji was born moon was full. By fixing his birthday on a date when moon is three quarter is foolishness. Moorakh ji wrote Where is the letter you were touting. Produce that or apologize.Ask your friend from kala afghnaa school to help you if they can.
  17. We are discussing issues here and not personalities. Bhindrewale has done a wonderful job for the glory of khalsa panth. He is a great hero of ours. The thread on hand is not make of fun of him as his detractors are doing here. His detractor proving himself to be a stooge of the same RSS forces by writing derogatory about sant Bhindrewale whom he is condemning. Let us focus on the issues and not personalities.
  18. Moorakh ji wrote This is a piece of propaganda story that is circulated on the internet for the last so many years by kala afghana/ darshan singh elements, missioanries and neo sikh opponents of Dasam bani. They have been challenged to produce that letter.They have failed to do so.Principal Harbhajan singh, a heretic missioanry, is the one who had started all this propaganda. The fact is that there is no such letter.Moorakh ji has gone a little further and he has added names of jathedars also which is a naked lie. Can you produce that letter here. If you fail to do so you should apologiz
  19. Gurus birthday are histroical dates and are observed per lunar calender.No religion on earth follow solar calender. Bikrami calender is calender of Punjab and not of Hindus.Saka calender is a Hindu calender. Just as day ,night and evenings are not Hindu, in the same way lunar calender is not Hindu. Guru Nanak dev ji was born on full moon of kartik. You cann't fix a date for his birthday as done by Purewal as his birthday should fall on full moon. Bikrami Samvat calender was of Iranian origin and adapted by militant tribes of Punjab who made their mark in world history by putting a strong r
  20. before you proceed further with your bukwas, may i know what is essence of charitropakhayan and what is wrong with it.Are you wiser than Guru sahib who wrote charitropakhayn. Some persons are writing bukwas here without having any knowledge of sikh history and are dishing out propaganda tales.They need to know saroop compiled by Bhai mani singh ji was a composite one consisting of SGGS ji and dasam Granthn sahib.
  21. Spreading propaganda against Dasam Granth is a sikh issue.All sikhs of the world are concerned over this issue and will fight unitedly against enemies of panth whose mission is attack on Amrit sanchar of khalsa panth.You cann't consider it a local issue. AKJ in US and canada are with panth.It is only splinter group of akj in UK and Germany who have left principles of their parent organizations and have become traitro to sikh cause.They need to be exposed. Coming to calender , Purewal gave carbon copy of Indian civil service calender to sikhs.Bikrami calender is a regional calender of Punjab f
  22. They invited anti sikh and Ragi darshan lovers from Germany.They knew what they would say.This was all pre planned.They were babbars when they were reading Dasam Bani.They have become gidders since hey have started condemning that.That bani is the lifeline of a khalsa.All khalsa terminology come from that bani.We have no existence without Dasam bani.
  23. They need to learn first about dasam granth before they criticize Dasam pita's bani. Their sarabloh concept, kirpans, khanda, kharag, chakkar and all other weapons associated with khalsa originate from Dasam Granth sahib. There is no Amrit sanchar without Dasam granth. There are no shashtars without Dasam Granth. There is no sarabloh without dasam granth. There is no khanda , kirpan without Dasam granth. There is no "Waheguru Ki ki fateh" greeting without Dasam Granth. There is no "deg teg fateh" without Dasam Granth. There is no Khalsa panth without Dasam granth. They need to remove t
  24. CLICK ON LINK FOR A VIDEO http://www.panthic.org/articles/5206 WEST BENGAL SIKH SANGAT ENFORCES PANTHIC DIRECTIVE AGAINST HERETIC RAGI PANTHIC.ORG | Published on January 23, 2010 Ragi, barely able to keep his turban on, escaping the wrath of the local sangat KOLKOTA - On January 19th, Ragi Darshan Singh franticly escaped the wrath of the local Sikh community in Asansol, near Kolkota (formerly Calcutta) West Bengal, after they enforced the Sri Akal Takht Sahib directive barring the Ragi from Panthic stages and platforms. The above video footage details the frantic escape by the Ragi from
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