Inder Singh

Ravinder singh ji

Gurmat Gian missiaonary college are supporters of kala afghna ideology and spokesman newspaper. Inder singh Ghagha belongs to this organization.

Such organizations say something and do another thing.They have been proven anti sikh to the core. Such missionary institutions are responsible for the present discord in sikh panth.

Since you name your organization as Khalsa aid how can you think even to associate with such anti sikh organization.

So far they were doing anti sikh activities in a sheepish way.They are doing it openly now. We have decided to approach SGPC against such missiaory schools in Punjab.We will oppose their anti sikh activies vigorously in future.

I will suggest you should evaluate their credentials before you become their partners.The decision is yours. But we will keep the heat on such anti sikh organizations who feed on sikh money but are working to finish sikhism.

False propaganda by whom? Let us know names so that Sangat in the UK can be fully apprised of the situation and boycott these bemukhs in the future.

Regards

These atheists will play around and once you are united they will buckle. This is what has happened at New York and Toronto. singhs have siloenced the kala afghnai and adrshan lal gangs there.

Long live dasam Bani taht give identity to us. Singho get untited.These rogues are on the run.

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The barsi and Sri Dasm Granth Sehaj Paat Bhog will go ahead as planned, the sikh channel will do a live broadcast of the event.

** There are many people trying to STOP this openly and are having meetings and try to assert authority over sevadaars, either way - this is guru gobind singh jees taksaal and these people can try whatever they want**

Be they from so called organising federations, or so called kirtanee jathe - u all know who i mean.

**If there are any issues they wont go un-noticed, some want panthic ekta, we want ekta with akaal purkh, its fine banging on about panthic ekta, but then the same people behind the scenes try and brainwash youth, give out books at smagams against gurbani and try to cuss sants and mahapurkhs.**

And that kulwant singh dhesi last week was giving statements in support of pro darshan singh, and not long ago wanted to give gold medals to babu mann...

Everyone, plz attend the three day barsi smagam and get lahaa out of gurbani

Go ahead singho. do akhand path of Dasam Granth sahib.It was long overdue.

The latest news is that Gurnindaks have been silenced at Tortonto where they could not hold any meeting at kala afghna sikh lehar centre.They ahve been also silnced at New york.

Victory is going to be of khalsa of Guru gobind singh ji and may his bani become a household name.

Gurfateh

Please tune into Panjab Radio channel 0130 (SKY) at 18.00pm today, Ravinder Singh Chairman of Khalsa Aid will be on air talking about the Petition for Human Rights in Punjab and projects Khalsa Aid is working on in Punjab.

http://www.panjabrad...bmain.aspx?id=1

khalsa aid

You are not replying to my queries.

Why are you working with enemies of sikhi India such as Gurmat Gian missionary college of ludhiana> They have an anti sikh agenda.

confirmed no dasam granth parkash will be dne @ willenhall - tarsem singh deol

bst way 2 stp any argumnts

Who are you to say this nonsense.

This site does support dasam granth sahib. You will be reported to Admin.

ਜਗ ਜੀਤਿਓ ਜਬ ਸਰਬ ॥ ਤਬ ਬਾਢਿਓ ਅਤਿ ਗਰਬ ॥ ਦਿਯ ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਿਸਾਰ ॥ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤ ਕੀਨ ਬਿਚਾਰ ॥੫੮੩॥

जग जीतिओ जब सरब ॥ तब बाढिओ अति गरब ॥ दिय काल पुरख बिसार ॥ इह भांत कीन बिचार ॥५८३॥

When he conquered the whole world, his pride was extremely increased; he also forgot the unmanifested Brahmin and said this;583.

ਬਿਨ ਮੋਹਿ ਦੂਸ੍ਰ ਨ ਔਰ ॥ ਅਸ ਮਾਨਿਯੋ ਸਭ ਠਉਰ ॥ ਜਗੁ ਜੀਤ ਕੀਨ ਗੁਲਾਮ ॥ ਆਪਨ ਜਪਾਯੋ ਨਾਮ ॥੫੮੪॥

बिन मोहि दूस्र न और ॥ अस मानियो सभ ठउर ॥ जगु जीत कीन गुलाम ॥ आपन जपायो नाम ॥५८४॥

There is no second except me and the same is accepted at all the place; I have conquered the whole world and made it my slave and have caused everyone to repeat my name.584.

ਜਗ ਐਸ ਰੀਤ ਚਲਾਇ ॥ ਸਿਰ ਅਤ੍ਰ ਪਤ੍ਰ ਫਿਰਾਇ ॥ ਸਭ ਲੋਗ ਆਪਨ ਮਾਨ ॥ ਤਰ ਆਂਖ ਅਉਰ ਨ ਆਨ ॥੫੮੫॥

जग ऐस रीत चलाइ ॥ सिर अत्र पत्र फिराइ ॥ सभ लोग आपन मान ॥ तर आंख अउर न आन ॥५८५॥

I have given life again to the traditional and have swung the canopy over my head; all the people consider me as their own and none other comes to their sight.585.

ਨਹਿ ਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਜਪੰਤ ॥ ਨਹਿ ਦੇਵ ਜਾਪ ਭਣੰਤ ॥ ਤਬ ਕਾਲ ਦੇਵ ਰਿਸਾਇ ॥ ਇਕ ਅਉਰ ਪੁਰਖ ਬਨਾਇ ॥੫੮੬॥

नहि काल पुरख जपंत ॥ नहि देव जाप भणंत ॥ तब काल देव रिसाइ ॥ इक अउर पुरख बनाइ ॥५८६॥

No one the repeats the name of the Lord-God or the name of any other God goddess;" seeing this the Unamanifested Brahma created another purusha.586.

ਰੱਚਿ ਅਸ ਮਹਿਦੀ ਮੀਰ ॥ ਰਿਸਵੰਤ ਹਾਠ ਹਮੀਰ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਤਉਨ ਕੋ ਬਧੁ ਕੀਨ ॥ ਪੁਨ ਆਪ ਮੋ ਕਿਯ ਲੀਨ ॥੫੮੭॥

्रचि अस महिदी मीर ॥ रिसवंत हाठ हमीर ॥ तिह तउन को बधु कीन ॥ पुन आप मो किय लीन ॥५८७॥

Mehdi Mir was created, who was very angry and persistent one; he killed the Kalki incarnation within himself again.587.

ਜਗ ਜੀਤ ਆਪਨ ਕੀਨ ॥ ਸਭ ਅੰਤ ਕਾਲ ਅਧੀਨ ॥ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤ ਪੂਰ ਸੁਧਾਰ ॥ ਭਏ ਚੌਬਿਸੇ ਅਵਤਾਰ ॥੫੮੮॥

जग जीत आपन कीन ॥ सभ अंत काल अधीन ॥ इह भांत पूर सुधार ॥ भए चौबिसे अवतार ॥५८८॥

Those who conquered, the made it there possession they are all under the control of KAL (death) in the end; in this way, with complete improvement the description of twenty-fourth incarnation is completed.588.

(Now being the description of the killing of Mehdi Mir)

ਤੋਮਰ ਛੰਦ ॥

तोमर छंद ॥

TOMAR STANZA

ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤ ਕੈ ਤਿਹ ਨਾਸ ॥ ਕੀਅ ਸੱਤਜੁਗ ਪਰਗਾਸ ॥ ਕਲਜੁੱਗ ਸਰਬ ਬਿਹਾਨ ॥ ਨਿਜ ਜੋਤ ਸਮਾਨ ॥੧॥

इह भांत कै तिह नास ॥ कीअ स्तजुग परगास ॥ कलजु्ग सरब बिहान ॥ निज जोत समान ॥१॥

In the way, destroying him, the age of the truth was manifested; the whole of Iron Age had passed away and the light manifested itself everywhere consistently .1

ਮਹਿਦੀ ਭਰਯੋ ਤਬ ਗਰਬ ॥ ਜਗ ਜੀਤਯੋ ਜਬ ਸਰਬ ॥ ਸਿਰ ਅੱਤ੍ਰ ਪੱਤ੍ਰ ਫਿਰਾਇ ॥ ਜਗ ਜੇਰ ਕੀਨ ਬਨਾਇ ॥੨॥

महिदी भरयो तब गरब ॥ जग जीतयो जब सरब ॥ सिर अत्र प्त्र फिराइ ॥ जग जेर कीन बनाइ ॥२॥

Then Mir Mehdi, conquering the whole world, was filled with pride; he also got the canopy swung over his head and caused the whole world to bow at his feet.2.

ਬਿਨ ਆਪ ਜਾਨ ਨ ਔਰ ॥ ਸਭ ਰੂਪ ਅਉ ਸਭ ਠਉਰ ॥ ਜਿਨ ਏਕ ਦਿਸ਼ਟ ਨ ਆਨ ॥ ਤਿਸ ਲੀਨ ਕਾਲ ਨਿਦਾਨ ॥੩॥

बिन आप जान न और ॥ सभ रूप अउ सभ ठउर ॥ जिन एक दिशट न आन ॥ तिस लीन काल निदान ॥३॥

Expect himself, he did not have faith in anyone; he who did not comprehend One Lord-God, he ultimately could not save himself from KAL(death).3.

ਬਿਨ ਏਕ ਦੂਸਰ ਨਾਹਿ ॥ ਸਭ ਰੰਗ ਰੂਪਨ ਮਾਹਿ ॥ ਜਿਨ ਏਕ ਕੋ ਨ ਪਛਾਨ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਬ੍ਰਿਥਾ ਜਨਮ ਬਿਤਾਰ ॥੪॥

बिन एक दूसर नाहि ॥ सभ रंग रूपन माहि ॥ जिन एक को न पछान ॥ तिह ब्रिथा जनम बितार ॥४॥

There is not one other in all colours and forms except one God; he, who has not recognized that one Lord, he wasted his birth.4.

ਬਿਨ ਏਕ ਦੂਸਰ ਨ ਔਰ ॥ ਜਲ ਬਾ ਥਲੇ ਸਭ ਠਉਰ ॥ ਜਿਨ ਏਕ ਸੱਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਨ ॥ ਸੋ ਜੂਨ ਜੂਨ ਭ੍ਰਮਾਨ ॥੫॥

बिन एक दूसर न और ॥ जल बा थले सभ ठउर ॥ जिन एक स्ति न जान ॥ सो जून जून भ्रमान ॥५॥

Expect that one Lord, there is none other in water, on plain and all the places; he who had not recognized the One Reality, he only roamed away amongst the Yogis.5.

ਤਜ ਏਕ ਜਾਨਾ ਦੂਜ ॥ ਮਮ ਜਾਨ ਤਾਸ ਨ ਸੂਝ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਦੂਖ ਭੂਖ ਪਿਆਸ ॥ਦਿਨ ਰੈਨ ਸਰਬ ਉਦਾਸ ॥੬॥

तज एक जाना दूज ॥ मम जान तास न सूझ ॥ तिह दूख भूख पिआस ॥दिन रैन सरब उदास ॥६॥

He who leaving the one, believed in another one, in my view, he is devoid of wisdom; he will be surrounded by suffering, hunger, thirst and anxiety throughout day and night.6.

ਨਹਿ ਚੈਨ ਐਨ ਸੁ ਵਾਹਿ ॥ ਨਿਤ ਰੋਗ ਹੋਵਤ ਤਾਹਿ ॥ ਨਿਤ ਦੂਖ ਭੂਖ ਮਰੰਤ ॥ ਨਹਿ ਚੈਨ ਦਿਉਸ ਬਿਤੰਤ ॥੭॥

नहि चैन ऐन सु वाहि ॥ नित रोग होवत ताहि ॥ नित दूख भूख मरंत ॥ नहि चैन दिउस बितंत ॥७॥

he will never get peace and will always be surrounded by ailments; he will always suffer death on account of suffering and hunger; he will always remain restless.7.

ਤਨ ਪਾਦ ਕੁਸ਼ਟ ਚਲੰਤ ॥ ਬਪੁ ਗਲਤ ਨਿੱਤ ਗਲੰਤ ॥ ਨਹਿ ਨਿੱਤ ਦੇਹ ਅਰੋਗ ॥ ਨਿਤ ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਪੌਤ੍ਰਨ ਸੋਗ ॥੮॥

तन पाद कुशट चलंत ॥ बपु गलत नि्त गलंत ॥ नहि नि्त देह अरोग ॥ नित पुत्र पौत्रन सोग ॥८॥

The leprosy will prevail in his body and all his body will rot; his body will not remain health and his foundness for sons and grandson will always afflict him.8.

ਨਿਤ ਨਾਸ ਤਿਹ ਪਰਵਾਰ ॥ ਨਹਿ ਅੰਤ ਦੇਹ ਉਧਾਰ ॥ ਨਿਤ ਰੋਗ ਸੋਗ ਗ੍ਰਸੰਤ ॥ ਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਸ੍ਵਾਨ ਅੰਤ ਮਰੰਤ ॥੯॥

नित नास तिह परवार ॥ नहि अंत देह उधार ॥ नित रोग सोग ग्रसंत ॥ म्रित स्वान अंत मरंत ॥९॥

His family will be destroyed and at the and, his body will not be redeemed also; he will always be engrossed in disease and sorrow; ultimately, he will die the death of a dog .9.

ਤਬ ਜਾਨ ਕਾਲ ਪ੍ਰਬੀਨ ॥ ਤਿਹ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਕਰਿ ਦੀਨ ॥ ਇਕ ਕੀਟ ਦੀਨ ਉਪਾਇ ॥ ਤਿਸ ਕਾਨ ਪੈਠੋ ਜਾਇ ॥੧੦॥

तब जान काल प्रबीन ॥ तिह मारिओ करि दीन ॥ इक कीट दीन उपाइ ॥ तिस कान पैठो जाइ ॥१०॥

Reflecting over the egoistic state of Mir Mehdi the Unmanifested Brahman thought of killing him; he created an insect, which entered the ear of Mir Mehdi.10.

ਧਸਿ ਕੀਟ ਕਾਨਨ ਬੀਚ ॥ ਤਿਸ ਜੀਤਯੋ ਜਿਮ ਨੀਚ ॥ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਂਤ ਦੇ ਦੁਖ ਤਾਹਿ ॥ ਇਹ ਭਾਂਤਿ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਵਾਹਿ ॥੧੧॥

धसि कीट कानन बीच ॥ तिस जीतयो जिम नीच ॥ बहु भांत दे दुख ताहि ॥ इह भांति मारिओ वाहि ॥११॥

Entering his ear, that insect conquered that base fellow, and giving him various types of suffering, killed him in this way.11.

ਇਤਿ ਮਹਿਦੀ ਮੀਰ ਬਧਹ ॥

इति महिदी मीर बधह ॥

End of killing of Mehdi Mi

Could Mehdi be considered to be similar to the Mahdi? The prophesied redeemer of Islam?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

I do not think so.mehdi meer is a different character in Kalki avtar.I will post relevant verses as soon as i get time.

Read the whole story. Kalki is not Guru Sahib. After the jung, he will get haumai and get people to worship him. Then someone called Mehdi Avtar will sort him out, but suffer from haumai as well. Waheguru finishes him off and Satjug begins.

That is right. When kalki asks people to worship him , Akal purakh will send mehdi mir.Mehid Mir will kill kalki.Mehdi Mir also gets pride and he will also be finished by akal purakh.

It is a wonderful narration with many verses ending with

Har ju Harmandir avange

Akal purakh will come to har mandir.

Kavi sainapat was court poet of Guru sahib. He wrote a book Gur shobha completed in 1711. He wrote many verses on line of kalki avtar.

He writes

Phir anandpur basahenge

Anandpur will be rebuilt again.

nufins gna happen

You know nothing about scriptures. Stop your unnecessary rants.

His father died while protesting against Ashutosh.

Question to khalsa aid second time

You talk about human rights in Punjab. What is your partnership with so aclled Gurmat Gian missionary college ludhiana, a heretic organization who is partly responsible for the present turmoil in sikh panth in particular their support to kala afghana, spokesman, heretic ragi etc.

I asked you earlier but you have evaded the question?

1. If a Muslim believes anybody can find God, that's fine.

2. And if another Muslim believes only Muslims can find God, and that Islam is the best and only religion, that's fine too.

3. But if a third Muslim believes that he has a duty to kill non-Muslims because they are non-Muslims, then obviously no one can live with that kind of person.

It's the third category of people which aren't able to live in a multi-cultural society.

Bigots are found in every religion. So do not single out one religion for that.

Take example of situation after sikh rule during Anglo-sikh wars. Muslims were the ones

who fought with khalsa and there was no case of treason on their part.

Press reports say that it is correct. Keep employment situation in India in mind as it is very difficult to find work in India.

The thing with the older generation and Darshan, is that because they spent allot of time admiring his parchar and see him as a good kathakar, they easily believe what he says. Some people ive met say "no he couldnt have said that" or... "par darshan singh kenda see dasam granth vich gallat galaa likhiya aah", his words have allot of weight amongst people who used to listen to him before. If for example, Ranjit Singh Dhadriawala flipped his stace and became anti Dasam Granth, allot of people would believe him due to his reputation.

Dasam Bani is easily defended because it is is the truth, however due to the prudishnes of some people they will easily side with Darshan and his band of fellow anti dasam parcharaks. Beware of manmat in the guise of gurmat.

These pseudo khalsitanis have no life themselves. Most of them are not amritdharis. do not read bani.How will they know about DG they do not even know anything about SGGS ji.

These are pseudo khalsitanis. Know nothing about Gurbani.

As khalsaland has said if you are anti dasam granth , you are not a sikh.

ਕਬੀਰ ਪਾਹਨੁ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰੁ ਕੀਆ ਪੂਜੈ ਸਭੁ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ॥

Kabeer, someone sets up a stone idol and all the world worships it as the Lord.

ਇਸ ਭਰਵਾਸੇ ਜੋ ਰਹੇ ਬੂਡੇ ਕਾਲੀ ਧਾਰ ॥੧੩੬॥

Those who hold to this belief will be drowned in the river of darkness. ||136||

http://www.srigranth...r=0&t=1&p=0&k=0

Pitiful Badal.

Sangat ji

We need to understand that badal is not guru of sikhs.He does such things it is his personal outlook. He will suffer for that.

Sikhs are facing serious challenges for example form heretics like Ragi darshan and Sarna , ashutosh etc. We should not be sidetracked from real issues as some will like us to.

Concentrate on the danger panth is facing from people who are carrying out a compaign to malign our scriptures.

Ragi is a lie machine. Not only he is lying he is also confronting akal takhat.

He did kirtan in one delhi gurudwara last night.

Anyone who knows a little bit about sikh history can catch this liar Ragi darshan . he is lying and twisitng.

Well, it's nice to watch the interview. It's too funny he is lying soooo much

Lying has become his profession....

I talked to a knowledgable man in India. he said that interview on Time Tv was very poor performance by rogue ragi. He was exposed. What is your view. I have not watched the videos yet.

Singhs are trying to get time on that TV we will know in a day or so.

They are doing this under a calculated plan. They started with dasam Granth.Now they have disowned Amrit. Same thing rogue Darshan singh ragi is telling us under the table when he disowns amrit sanchar banis.

They have disowned Nine Guru sahibs also along with SGGS ji.In the audio below Srana is asking Bhai balbir singh jio not to read Dasam Bnais in Gurudwara at delhi. Please listen

http://patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=250:bhai-balbir-singh-bir-ras-keertan-at-paonta-sahib&catid=39:keertan&Itemid=76

Do we want more proof what they are upto.

Waheguru Waheguru Waheguru.....

Now really somthing has to happen. Otherwise i see the panth is deviding into two big groups or going down.

First they were just a few ppl now there is maybe 1/3 of the Panth who believe in those things. It's really sad i know a few ppl who were very strong in believe and now through those baad be baad things they thought prof and the gang are right. But they dun see that this is just the begining of the end of Khalsa Panth.

The time has come where we are not 20 Million Sikhs there are just Sava, Sava Lakh Sikhs on this earth left.

They are still a few. They are trying to mislead those who are unaware of these things.

Singh ji

Make sure you do not go to some missionary school or person of missioary background.

There are missionary schools in Ludhiana. Do not get in their trap. They are anti sikh people.

preaching atheism.

Can we have the link to this article

Are you saying about photograph on first page?

I m not in favor of darshan singh nor i m in favor of joothe ilzam even on ur enemies ... which starts with "I have heard ..... "

These arer not jhoothe. His admission to nursing home has been testified by another member.

Parkash of two Granths together in parkarma of harmandir sahib. Ranjit singh is listening to granths.

Puratan singhs were much wiser than us.We have brought our own downfall.