tableji

i did agree with what u have said on this post bt i have just read ur other posts on this forum and am deeply disapointed.i also dont agree with the way you have called hell and heaven "childish concepts"

i understand u feel that eating meat is not a problem.dont worry this isnt going off topic. clearly u dont rele understand the concepts of hell and heaven, even though u seem to,because by performing acts such as eating meat mahraj says one will be consigned to hell(not the so called "childish concept" of hell which u claim to have left along time ago, but the hell in which one is consumed by the panj chor).

so hell, rather than being a childish concepts is a living reality for all of us if you think about it.

"I left these childish concepts of heaven and hell behind long time ago when the meaning of Bani was explained to me by some learned people."

it is interesting how you think you have managed to understand these concepts but still not managed to grasp the more simple concepts spelled out in gurugranthsahib ji such as eating meat.

remember: one who THINKS he knows something is dangerous.

OMGOSH RANDEEP SINGH YOU ARE SO RIGHT.ive read everysingle one uf posts on this topic..and well...i must say i couldnt have put it better myself.

i feel that i am quite an objective person and from reading all the arguments randip singhs seem the most sensible.

i especialy agree with this

"Why bother with that when I can got to the source...my Guru...i.e. Bani!"

VAHEGUROOOOOOOOOO both the above shabads are jus.....

VJKK VJKF

Bhai Sahib Bhai Niranjan Singh will be in the UK this winter.

Three dates are confirmed below with the rest to follow shortly in this thread.

22-24th December 2005 - Baba Thakur Singh Ji's 1st Barsi in Pleck, Walsall

27th December 2005 - National Youth Rehansbhai at Sedgley St Gurdwara, Wolverhampton (part of Jap108)

31st December 2005 - NEW YEARS 11.30pm onwards at Sedgley St Gurdwara, Wolverhampton

Please attend if you are able to

VJKK VJKF

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it doesnt say nything boout him going to jap108 on the schedulee?????

woah.sarbloh langar? isnt that bit hard to eat, i mean i neva eaten pure iron b4!

yay!!! pete!!! lol

Accept that this is gurujis will and take what u can from it...everything happens for a reason, no need to get angry about it...was hukam...was meant to happen

are you sure the raj academy are doing kirtan? and are there specifc times for the raag and akj kirtan?

The souls are not perfect. If one's soul has done alot of paap, murder, etc. their soul cannot be perfect with bad karma. Thats why we are in the cycle of reincarnation because of the bad karma, and our souls are not perfect, if they were we would be one with Akaal purkh.

I heard this in a few veechars that the soul was one with akaal purakh waheguroo...but then it found the company of the mind which lead it into the five evils...so in order to be one with wahegurooo again...we need to break of the chains that bind us to the mind....and rise above the five evils....and only by the grace of the true satguru ...the soul becomes perfect again......sounds easy but takes a lotta dedicated paath and simran...and guruji's grace

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soul is always the pure one...bt the mind controls it....problem is with the mind, not the soul....

QMmy koie n swD ibn swD n id`sY jg ivc koAw]

Akaal Ji

This shabad tells us that there is NO sadh (saint)

Any comments??????????

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thhanmae koe n saadhh bin saadhh n dhsiai jag vich koaa

Yeah Bhai Gurdaas Ji .....

BTW for anyone that doesnt kno, manmat isnt something that is necessarily discussed in the Guru Granth Sahib Ji, instead Guruji gives us a theme of what manmat is, and then we apply that to everyday life.

The reason i stated AKJ Amrit Sanchaar, is because is it different to most, as in Keski is a Kakkar and this whole naam dhriss concept which is new to me. I mean no offence, i was just stating what i saw on that website

Does this mean that AKJ Amrit Sanchaar is different from the panth?? :umm:

oh dear....rehit maryada clearly sez kesh as kakar.....hmmm....

oh dear.....

in my opinion, guru granth sahib ji gives us a religion and a culture....that is seperate from punjabi culture...

can anyone tell us the times of the kirtaneea mentioned above?

what about people that make 3d models of nihang singhs with farlaas, is that now against maryada too?! ARE YOU SAYING THE COMPUTER HAS A FARLAA?!?!

hey wouldnt it be cool to tie a big damalla on her

LOL....

raaj n chaaho mukath n chaaho man preeth charan kamalaarae

lol id like to kno what i sed that was soo offensive, all i sed was that bachan vidiya shud be careful who he labels...i didnt take to kindly wen he made that comment equal to saying that anyone agreeing with the farla beadbi is a Uk nihung (nang) wateva....

point was just because i agree with the farla beadbi, doesnt mean i belong to any jathebandi or group....and u shudnt go around accusing ppl of belonging to a group without even knowing a thing about them

Engaging brain is required, unless this forum will become a slagging area

im sorry bt i also feel that the admins have been a stupid here...maybe they shud engage their brain/brains (that is if they have any such thing) from time to time (constructive citicism, everyone gets it)

Someone made an accusation, i kindly asked them to rethink what they had sed...

Spreading propaganda about ppl is not gud....alot of ppl have sed alot about the Uk Nihangs, i think once is enuff....i dnt think ppl need to be kept on reminded about stuff thats floating around in gossip....if u have proof of such acts please present to the sangat, if u dnt, keep ur opinions to urself...giving facts is themost pursuasive way of approaching problems as such...if you are unable to refrain from gettin heated in arguments, then i suggest u walk away and look at urself, before u go on pointing fingers at other ppl...

Time to grow up i think

Dada doss na dayoo kisa, jin apney karam apneya, jo mai kee so mai paya, doss na dejai avar jana!

if u feel these ppl have done wrong, either sort it out as best as u can....or jus let maharaj give them saja....

nindhaks are not looked nicely on in sangat or

in gods eyes

And if u are gna delete this post because i spoke my mind, then so be it....i guess the truth hurts

Oh btw i want a farlah aswell, Jathedar Gurpreet Singh of Tabla Dal!!

Seems soo easy to get one, lets start a fashion trend, just like the dumala and bana ,so sad...

if anyone had any sense they wud never wear gurujis bana or dumala forget about farlah...if anyone is ready to say they are worthy....man thats just a lie....a true gursikh will blend in, look normal from the outside...not expose themselves...kalyug tho innit...not many of those left...sikh = sant = guru...if u are ready to call urself a guru, then so be it wear bana etc...gud luck to u...i hope u really are guru...i dnt want to imagine the consequences of someone wearing gurujis bana and being a pakhandi...oh dear

i apolgise if i have offended anyone, none of this was personal....i sincerely hope that all those singhs and singhnia really are worthy of their attire....that really wud be amazing....bhul chuk maaf

Gurbar AkAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

PS Admins are sposed to be impartial, they dnt get <Edited> off...bt oh well....

if u ban me then u confirm that u are unable to moderate this forum to an adequate level....and i will be happy to leave

***ADMIN GOT ANNOYED BY YOUR ANTI-GURMAT HOSTILITY AND DELETED YOUR POST***

tableji and bachan vidya,

grow up.

thanks

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its a shame to see "self styled farladharis", its is a total breach and disregard of khalsa maryada <_<

i totally agree its a breach of maryada...definantly

oi dnt call me that, i aint gud enuff to be called Gurudev...no way...im still learning....

a taal is a cycle of rythmic beats, e.g

8 Beats is Keherva. Also each cycle consists of points of emphasis...so there can be more than one "taal" will the same number of beats.

A bol is a composition in a taal, so ge tin ta tin S tin da tin, is a bol in keherva...bols also have subcategories, but i wont go into that, gets toooo complicated LOL

Dhata Ge Tata S*

*S means skip a beat. This is also another form of Kehrwa so it also has 4 beats. You have to skip the last beat meaning don't play anything. Hope this helps for now.Here's another commonly played kehrwa.

DHatoo Ge Tatoo S

LOL, those two are common for rehinsbhais

Actually,

its Ge Tin Ta Tin S Tin Dha Tin

Pheena Ji, online tutorials are rubbish! Best to find a physical teacher who can give u input as to wot to do next, or to improve this etc

Oh and its tabla, not tablas

sikh = student

guru = teacher

so in order to be a sikh, u have to have a teacher...if u do not listen to the teacher, then how can u be the student??

sikh/gursikh/khalsa - same thing, coz they all have one teacher....

Refusing to follow wot GuruJi sez, means u forfeight the right to call urself a sikh...

Personally...i wont ever call my self a sikh, because i kno that i will never be able to totally "give my head"...bt i will try my best....

Niranjana Singh Sahib Ji...read ur PMs lol

for tabla try...

Chakardar.com

sorry, post edited i shud keep my opinions to myself...bhul chuk maaf

Thats Bhai Prithipal Singh Jee.

his name is Prithvipal singh

maaff karo khalsa jee

oh sorry my bad :wub:

actually guys, it is Prithipal Singh - hes a gud family friend....