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Sarna hobnobbing with RSS...No wonder Darshan Ragi is towing the RSS line too by condemning banee and creating confusion
http://www.panthic.org/articles/4169
for those who cant read Hindi, the banner says
"Rashtriya Sikh Sangat, Delhi Zone"
"Welcomes the Jagrati Yatra"
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Can someone tell me where in Sri Dasam Granth this shabad exist.
If I am not mistaken its from Ramavtar
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The day he gave this interview for PTC walking quite nicely, he did a PR campaign by publising an advertisement in anti-Sikh newspaper, Spokesman. Trying to sway the public sympathy towards him he said that he was 70 years old and was on a wheel chair!
He is such a dramatist.
Moreover all what he is saying in the PTC interview has already been rebutted by Dr Jodh Singh and others. See this video
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Here is how a fake copyright complainant looks like
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But dont forget to file a counter notification if your video has been taken down.
This is the only way you can get the videos back at the same link.
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See this also
Now all the above videos are also gone by a faulty complaint filed by 'Prof Drashan Singh Khalsa'.
Seriously, this has to be dealt with!
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Let me say this, now that it has become important ,
Gagandeep Singh Anand is the guy from Canada who is taking care of Darshan's websites, youtube channel and other media over the internet.
I am pretty sure he has mobilized the fake copyright complaints against all the videos, channels that are critical of Ragi.
ganand@uwaterloo.ca
gaganji@gmail.com
Those whose videos have been taken down by malice should write to him and make him aware of the repercussions of filing a fake complaint.
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See this also
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Well, truth hurts.
Some Suggestions:
So here is how you can get the videos back on YouTube. File a COUNTER-NOTIFICATION.
Dont upload the files again as that might lead to a permanent deletion of your account.
All those who have been inflicted by this file-deleting-hysteria of Darshan Ragi should file a Counter Notification.
He has clearly been filing a false copyright complaint which is a serious offence. Once YouTube receives multiple Counter Notifications then they might take action against him for filing false complaints.
Here is how you can file a Counter Notification:
http://www.google.co...=#international
The only downside is that one needs to give all the personal information in order to file a counter notification. But it is worth. Because there is no way Ragi can contest the counter notification.
Once YouTube receives your counter notification they will send your statement to Ragi and he has 10 days to prove that he has copyright over the material he contested. If he cant then (and he cant) YouTube will reinstate your videos. Its a slow process but it is worth.
A Counter Notification can be faxed to YouTube or it can be scanned and sent @ copyright@youtube.com
You can also file a notification online http://help.youtube....t_counternotice
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Seriously, what a Joker!
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Khalsaland, Hardkaurwarriorz
The reason for taking the time to engage UKGuptKaur is to put the arguments for Sikhi as we've known it for the past 300 years out there. Many, many Sikhs are drowning in Kala Afghanism, which is almost everywhere these days. They need to know these points.
As well, it gives us a chance to hone our debating skills, which, all too often we have to use in our own families. Many times a Singh posts a piece of information which is handy to have. And you can't have a debate if you don't have an antagonist.
I also hold out the hope (however tiny) that the misleaded (such as UKGuptKaur) will come back; we will welcome you with love because God is always forgiving to those who repent. Sukhmani Sahib says even the slanderers can rise if the True Ones desire it.
Moderators: Please don't close this thread, and please don't ban UKGuptKaur. If you ban her, everyone can point to that as the reason she wasn't able to respond. If you don't ban her, we can say that she had no response, and that's why she didn't respond.
Agreed! You know there are millions of similar threads where a nindak sparks a debate and his/her questions are well answered. But again we see the same question being asked and the whole cycle starts again.
I believe you have given some good answers to her queries. If it is not a big job, can you please make it as general Q&A and then post it on a blog/website. Then it will there for everyone to see and one doesnt need to go and dig into forums to find the answers. I agree the Kale Afghanis post similar questions. And their questions are not more than 20-30....Easy to answer!
I guess Dasam Quest on patshahi10.org was also started for the same reason
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... the Khalsa will only achieve
Raj-niti by reciting banis from the Sri Dasam Granth.
OH my oh dear!!
Is that all you know? Then why to waste time here.Follow whatever you like. Nobody is forcing you to follow sikh protocols.
Inder, you STILL have not given valid answers to many of my questions.
Khalsaland? do you even know what khalsa means and how we can be "khalsa"?
Why are you guys demeaning the power of Sri Guru Granth Sahib jee?
You cannot even obey one simple command of Guru jee and want khalsa land!!!
UKGupt Kaur I am not going to get into your ugly trap...sorry...try somewhere else...I know what Khalsa means and no one here says Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not our Guru..
So back off...Take your twisted ideology somewhere else...the one who doesnt believe in Jaap Sahib, Chaupai and First pauree of Ardas as Gurbani is a sinner.
You are just drenched in the sick Kala Afghana ideology.
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Does this UK Gupt Kaur even deserve an answer here.
She has just declared that Jaap Sahib, Chaupai Sahib, Ardas, etc are not Gurbani.
Why waste time on such mutants.
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Darshan Sinh in a new press release has said that the CD's submitted to the Akal Takhat were doctored by some right wing Hindu group to defame him...
These idiots dont know the difference between a CD been 'doctored' and a CD been 'edited'
A doctored CD would be a monkey face on darshan's voice or vice versa.
The info that I have gathered is that the Jathedars have received unedited CD of what he said.
They have also seen his discussion on JUS Punjabi. Also does he deny that it was his voice?
He said what he said in the CD. Now he doesnt have any answer to his blasphemy and he is coming up with excuses...
I still cant understand what happened to him in two years http://patshahi10.or...ertan&Itemid=66
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So we have now the following anti dasam Granth gang
1) Gurtej singh lost his voice. Cann't talk for the last 4 months.
2) Harinder Mehboob got bone cancer
3) Kala afghna gone mental
4) Baldev singh died of brain tumour.
waheguru!
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Tec9, the english translation is all off track...If I am not wrong you have pasted the whole bit from Pritpal Bindra's translation. He is another buddy of Kala Afghana.
Still ..
1. There is no mention of a prostitute here as Darshan is claiming.
2. Nowhere the Raja thinks that if he establishes a relationship with the rich woman then the one who will be born will be called a Pimp, as Darshan claims.
And Darshan is a sinner by concocting his own story by putting Guruji's name in it.
Where is the above translation wrong: Its not the Raja that is beaten up by the public. Read the punjabi text. Raja makes
rich woman's brother caught by public and he himself escapes from there unharmed.
Moral of the story: Raja maintaines his high character even after being lured by a woman who is not his wife. Thats how the character of a man should be.
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Just got a message from a Singh in Toronto that Kala Afghana has been admitted to a Mental Institution.
Maybe someone else can fill in the details..
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Signature drive by New York Gurdwaras against Darshan...New York Gurdwaras have collected more than 1000 signatures against Darshan and they are going to send it to Akal Takhat Sahib. News from Ajit:
ਪ੍ਰੋ: ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਖਿਲਾਫ ਨਿਊਯਾਰਕ ਵਿਚ ਦਸਤਖਤ ਮੁਹਿੰਮ ਵਿੱਢੀ
ਨਿਊਯਾਰਕ, 29 ਨਵੰਬਰ (ਹਰਵਿੰਦਰ ਰਿਆੜ)-ਪਿਛਲੇ ਸਮੇਂ ਵਿਚ ਅਮਰੀਕਾ ਵਿਚ ਵਿਵਾਦਾਂ ਦੇ ਘੇਰੇ ਵਿਚ ਘਿਰੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਦੇ ਸਾਬਕਾ ਜਥੇਦਾਰ ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਰਾਗੀ ਦੇ ਜਿਥੇ ਇਕ ਸੰਸਥਾ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਹੱਕ ਵਿਚ ਇਕਤੱਰਤਾ ਕੀਤੀ ਸੀ ਅਤੇ ਉਸੇ ਸੰਦਰਭ ਵਿਚ ਕੁਝ ਗੁਰੂ ਘਰਾਂ ਅਤੇ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਭਗਤ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੁਸਾਇਟੀ ਦੇ ਪ੍ਰਧਾਨ ਸ: ਮਨਿੰਦਰ ਸਿੰਘ ਵੱਲੋਂ ਦਿੱਤੇ ਬਿਆਨ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਨਿਊਯਾਰਕ ਵਿਚੋਂ ਲਗਭਗ ਇਕ ਹਜ਼ਾਰ ਦਸਤਖਤ ਪ੍ਰੋ: ਦਰਸ਼ਨ ਸਿੰਘ ਦੇ ਖਿਲਾਫ ਕਰਵਾ ਕੇ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਨੂੰ ਆਉਂਦੇ ਹਫਤੇ ਫੈਕਸ ਰਾਹੀਂ ਭੇਜੇ ਜਾ ਰਹੇ ਹਨ। ਉਧਰ ਕੁਝ ਅਖਬਾਰਾਂ ਵਿਚ ਅਕਾਲੀ ਦਲ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਸਰ ਦੇ ਆਗੂਆਂ ਦਾ ਹੁਕਮਨਾਮੇ ਵਿਚ ਨਾਮ ਘੜੀਸਣ ਤੇ ਦਲ ਦੇ ਅਮਰੀਕਾ ਦੇ ਕਨਵੀਨਰ ਸ: ਬੂਟਾ ਸਿੰਘ ਖੜੌਦ ਨੇ ਕਿਹਾ ਕਿ ਉਨ੍ਹਾਂ ਦੀ ਪਾਰਟੀ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਦੀ ਸਰਵਉਚਤਾ ਅੱਗੇ ਸਿਰ ਝੁਕਾਉਂਦੀ ਹੈ। ਅਤੇ ਤਖਤ ਦੇ ਫੈਸਲੇ ਨੂੰ ਚੈ¦ਜ ਨਹੀਂ ਕੀਤਾ ਜਾ ਸਕਦਾ। ਜੇਕਰ ਅਜਿਹਾ ਹੁੰਦਾ ਹੈ ਤਾਂ ਇਹ ਅਕਾਲ ਤਖਤ ਨੂੰ ਢਾਹ ਹੋਵੇਗੀ।
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The text on the YouTube post says: "According to Sikh Rehat Maryada, kirtan may only be done of bani of Guru Granth Sahib, writings of Bhai Gurdas & Bhai Nand Lal and Nitnem banis."
These heretics try to take the refuge of SRM at their will. I doubt if they have even read the SRM. Even the definition of the Sikh says that a Sikh is one who believes in Sri Guru Granth Sahib and all the 10 Gurus banees. Maybe these heretics dont consider Sri Guru Gobind Singh Sahib as one of their Gurus.
These heretics should just see this list:
SRM and Sri Dasam Granth
Jaap Sahib
33 Sawaiye
Chaupaee Sahib (Charitropakhyan)
Ardas (Chandi Di Vaar)
Rehras (Ramavtar, Charitropakhyan, Krishnavtar etc)
Here is the hypocrisy. These heretics claim that they support banees enshrined in SRM, but they and their mentor Darshan has publically disowned all the above banees.
How are they Sikhs, Panthic and supporters of SRM is anyones guess!
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lol ragi gona go down, i was just given this link from a dg nindak harmaan the fool, a vid of sardar lamba sahib apparently calling 1 granth for BABASIR and 1 for rash or sumthing, its obviously edited and another sad attempt
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=W7VlMAb7MSs
wots this all about?
If I am not wrong this is the radio interview of Sardar Lamba which is being referred to...
http://patshahi10.or...rview&Itemid=78
He didnt refer to a Granth in that manner - its the other guy who got it completely wrong.
Another desperate attempt by Darshan Ragi's stooges
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And wasnt your query about Hazur Sahib Maryada already answered before
What is the reason of raking up the issue again?
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okay, tell me one thing for my personal information..if controversy is has been created recently then not any gurudwaras except for hazur saab and patna saab ( if im not wrong) the granth is being prakashed....
do u have dasamgranth in ur local gurudwara?
why is there no dasam granth at the harmandar saab?
..And not having prakash of Sri Dasam Granth means that there is controversy on it?
Well the controversy strated a few years ago and there was never a prakash of Sri Dasam Granth at Harimandir Sahib....So your 'logic' doesnt really fit here
As for your Nanaji, I think he was considered a panthic leader until some years ago. But the way he sidelined Bhai Ranjit Singh and started hobnobbing with Congress put a lot of question marks on his true intentions.
And recently his hate for Badal has transformed into his love for heretic Ragi Darshan because he is also anti Badal. But your Nanaji didnt realise that Ragi is much more than just anti-Badal.
And thats the real tragedy here. All the so called leaders who are anti-Badal are taking Ragi's side without even contemplating on the real issue.
Ragi has denigrated Guru Sahib and thats a fact. He said Guru Sahib went to a Prostitute. No such verses appear in Sri Dasam Granth. He said that Guru ji started thinking that if he establishes the relationship with the prostitute then the one who will be born out of that relationship will be a Pimp. Nothing of this sort appears in Sri Dasam Granth. So the issue is clear and straightforward. Does your Nanaji support Ragi on this. If he doesnt then he should condemn him publically. Ask him why he doesnt do that.
Your Nanaji and his associates should make a clear choice here if he wants to be regarded as a Panthic learder. Else, siding with Ragi he can never earn the respect of the Panth.
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Bhai Manpreet Singh Ji speaks and exposes names of few more individuals like Dr. Dalbir Singh
There is no Dr. and no Singh in Dalbir.
He is the self-proclaimed intellectual of the Faridabad-missionary-cult who even denigrates Jaap Sahib.
Bhai Manpreet Singh has exposed this gang nicely.
Ever wonder how these few people became so popular? Well Joginder Sahni of Spokesman, after being excommunicated, was looking for support in the form of a gang which could cause destruction, distress, and disturbance in Panth.
Now Spokesman serves them by giving them a lot of fame - every second day there is a news in Spokesman about this cult from Faridabad. Just noise, nothing else.
On the other hand these people serve Spokesman by their false propaganda which Spokesman thrives on.
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Most Puratan Birs Of Dasam Granth?
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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Here is the glimpse of the Patna Bir from 1698...
Important things to note: The date and the name of the granth mentioned in the first paragraph.
http://patshahi10.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=245:sri-dasam-granth-beerh-1698-ad-takhat-sri-patna-sahib-&catid=62:historic-beerhs&Itemid=106