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  1. Forum member Inder Singh has started a thread at sikhsangat.com entitled Slander of Dasam Granth at SPN. On the thread Inder Singh and other members of sikhsangat have made numerous public allegations that various SPN members, moderators and mentors have slandered Sri Dasam Granth, and that SPN admin has aided and abetted the slander. It is unfortunate that sikhsangat has allowed such negative propaganda at the behest of one member without confirming these allegations independently. SPN has not acted in a similar way toward any other Internet forum. Despite his provocations, SPN has accommodated Inder Singh and allowed him to share his views. We at SPN feel such misleading of the panth is unacceptable and serves to further divide us. We also believe that the allegations are categorically untrue. We invite sikhsangat members to identify and list specific examples of slander found on SPN, naming the member, moderator or mentor who uttered the slander. You must also clearly state that you are responding to our invitation as a sikhsangat.com member. You will be required to provide the thread url and post number where the slander occurred. Slander is defined as words falsely spoken that damage the reputation of another person. No multiple identities! Respectfully, the Admin at SPN

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  2. From aad0002 ji -- a message

    "Who sleeps with dogs wakes up with fleas." A saying from the folk heritage of the south of Italy. Consider the message when you pause and reflect on the extent to which this discussion has extended or enriched your vichaar of Dasam Pitah, his banee, or his contributions to moral theology and the spiritual well-being of this earth.

    If my comment does not make sense to you, then it is by His Hukam, and according to His Wisdom. I am grateful.

    Antonia

  3. After the Battle of Bhangani, the rulers of the Mughal empire met in Delhi. They were worried as their army now had lost 14 battles to Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj and the Khalsa army. The Mughal rulers decided to send their best and most feared General to capture Guru Gobind Singh Ji. That General was General Sayed Baig. He claimed that he would be able to capture the tenth Guru alive and bring Guru ji into the darbar of the Mughal Emperor. General Sayed Baig with an army of 50,000 men marched towards Punjab.

    On the way General Sayed Baig decided to visit his sister. General Baig's sister Naseera, was married to Pir Budhu Shah. Pir Budhu Shah was a Muslim Saint who was a devotee of Guru Gobind Singh Ji. In the battle of Bhangani, Pir Budhu Shah had offered his 700 disciples and four sons to Guru Gobind Singh Ji. In the battle the four sons and all of the 700 disciples attained shaheedi.

    When General Baig met his Sister he said, "oh sister, the name of your brother has always been feared by the enemy but from today my name will go down in history. I am going to capture the Sikh Guru alive and drag him to Delhi."

    His sister replied, "don't be so full of pride brother. so much ego is not good. You think that with 50,000 men you'll be able to capture the Guru?? When you see Guru ji, you won't even be able to stand infront of him."

    General Sayed Baig ignored his sisters advice and advanced towards Guru Ji. Naseero, scared of her brothers naivety and for his safety, went and decided to meet Guru Gobind Singh Ji.

    Naseero fell at the feet of Guru ji. "Guru ji, please bless my brother. He is blinded by anger, rage and ego. He does not truly know what a big mistake he is making."

    Guru Gobind Singh ji picked Naseero up and said "he is blinded by his fake ego, his false pride. In order to save him, it is neccessary to cut off the head of his ego."

    The next day, Guru ji came onto the battlefield to face General Sayed Baig. General Baig raised his sword to attack Guru Ji. Guru ji calmly gazed into the eyes of the general. When the generals eyes met Guru Jis eyes, the sword dropped out of his eyes. General Baig dropped to his knees and begged Guru Ji for forgiveness.

    Guru Ji took the generals sword away and gave him a Mala. After that, the general quit the army and started to meditate on Gods name. Thereafter he was known as Pir Sayeed Baig.

    I like this thread very much veer ji. The way you have pulled together the important information into a chronology is great! The chronology continues, making this thread a good research resource for the "net." I won't say more to disrupt your flow. Sat Sri Akaal!

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