babbarkhalsa84

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

as the topic suggests i have a dubida about ardas but first i'd like to clear i have full sharda in dhan dhan sri guru granth sahib ji and full sharda in sri dasam granth sahib ji too

the only problem is i have been trying to search about puratan saroop of dasam granth sahib ji were one could find how the first pauri of chandi di vaar is written the authentic ucharan of the ardas sahib how the ardas came from the mukh of guru maharaj sahib dhan dhan sri guru gobind singh ji maharaj

but i cant get any pic or image of such puratan saroop

now the doubt which came from this

watch the 2nd video keenly

i know he has been excommunicated and he claims that the laeen dhyae is not layeen but is layee and hoeen sahae is not hoeen but its hoee and then all the question arose what does the puratan saroop of dasam granth sahib say about this as he claims in 1968 the hoyee and layee was changed to hoyeen and layeen

if any singhs on this forum can shed the true light on how the ardas in the first saroop of sri dasam granth sahib ji is written that is by dhan dhan shaheed bhai mani singh ji and the saroop written by dhan dhan baba deep singh ji shaheed i would be very obliged if any singh has pics of the saroop please post them

please NOTE I AM NOT SUPPORTING THIS BABA IN THE VIDEO I AM IN DUBIDA AND JUST WANT TO KNOW THE TRUTH AND COULDNT FIND ANY PICS OF THE PURATAN FIRST SAROOP OF SRI DASAM GRANTH SAHIB JI AND CHANDI DI VAAR HENCE HAD TO OPEN THIS TOPIC SO PLEASE HELP

mods i dont know if i can post an outside link but here it is read this and shed some light on it if it is true or what

http://www.sikharchives.com/?p=10190

I am just assuming here. Maybe it was used as a medicine for those injured in war back in those day(we didnt have effective pain killers back then). Not all Gursikhs fighting in war had been people very high spiritual state to withstand pain. Am assuming maybe thats how it was introduced.

Of-course now its mostly ABUSED by we all know who without any spiritual basis :biggrin2:

i dont understand this why do we even try to think that somebody wont be in a high spiritual state how do we know what was the avastha of such singhs who revolved around guru sahiban more over even if somebody wasnt in that high spiritual state BUT SUTGURU MERA POORA why would they need sukha atleast there were so many medicines then hakeems in every nukad if u state that

I took this article down for the following reasons;

1.) Forgive me but my opponent was mentally deficient in more than one field.

2.) The above said knowledge was already available on the internet.

3.) By writing an article and incorporating rebuttals in it I reach more larger audience rather than directly targeting moronic knowledge.

veerjee if u being sarcastic then its a different story but if u arent then first of all he isnt mentally deficient he's a clever chap who represents rss and hvp bcoz most of rssias say such kud things about sikhi and shaheed singhs and try to make fake stories stating all those who gave their shaheedi were not sikhs but were hindus famous shaheeds like bhai dayala bhji bhai sati das ji and bhai mati das ji are targeted there are even books issued about such doctered history these people have learnt it from there how turn true sikh history in hindu favor like this did by disrespecting shaheeds and mata sahib the only difference in the published books is that they cant directly attack mata sahib ji as its published but one of them can individually post a blog and the another example is he doesnt write or post malign about shivaji or maharana pratap infact he doesnt even post anything about them as his main purpose is to target sikh history and young sikh youth like nidar nihang is doing sorry to bring him up but they all are same

all my request is just to report and get the blog closed

i know this wont stop it may be he ill post it again or somebody else would do but we should make efforts to get such post off the internet

I agree 99.999%. the only thing is .. and I hate to say it..if we look at the history of the Khalsa army we know that there are 12 misls and one of the biggest and major misls was misl Bhangi... and they were called that cause they looved and did mass amounts of Bhang.

what are you guys thoughts on that?

i think another misconception created in panth just to put phut and weaken the sharda i personally have been talking to nihang singhs even they say dont use sukha just use badam instead

and the mud is naam if one chhaks sukha or sukhnidhan how will he jap naam

http://tisarpanth.blogspot.co.nz/2013/08/captain-fool.html

For the <banned word filter activated> Vadakayil. With love from my chittar.

veerjee ur link isnt working please look into it

I was hearing viakhya whereupon I came across "Shivajis Guru was highly influenced by 6th Paatshaahi and had met him also " After I heard this then I looked at the photograph of Sivaji and found him to be copying the style of the ^th Paatshahi. Is this Correct what was mentioned in the Katha

http://www.sikhiwiki.org/index.php/Guru_Hargobind_and_Samarth_Ramdas

this meeting is mentioned in Pothi Panjak Sakhia

"batan faquiri, zahir amiri,

shastar garib ki rakhya, jarwan ki bhakhiya,

Baba Nanak sansar nahi tyagya, Maya tyagi thi."

These words of Guru Hargobind found a ready response in the heart of Samartha Swami Ramdas who, as quoted in Pothi Panjak Sakhian, spontaneously said, "this appealeth to my mind - Yeh hamare man bhavti hai".

dude read the dasboda in English PDF it is originally written by shivji's guru Smarati Guru Ram Das I've got through about half AND there's lots of amazing stuff in there.

amazing stuff regarding what veerjee is the stuff regading sikhi ? or meeting guru sahib ?

if there is any such stuff could you please post the link

one

He's senile man, Punch into Google search

Punch into Google search

Punch into Google search

Punch into Google search

Punch into Google search

Punch into Google search

People call him guru ji and all this other bs.

The fact is Indians are worse than niggers, because they have a religious basis for their slave mentality.

You can only cut through them, but dam is there a lot but only about 35 times as many.

Not a too hard feat, considering most of them are half-starved and dying.

--

People will talk about brotherhood, but a man that's been lied to, and believes will die defending that lie.

We should worry about parchaar after we get our own state.

The only reason for someone becoming a sikh is to give their head and die fighting for an independent sikh nation.

We don't need saints, we need soldiers.

Some lady was about to cry, because she asked what does it mean to you?

I said, while I walk this path of death, maybe others will join me.

VJKVJF||

Nowdays they play with fire, after getting burned by a havan they cry 'JAI SHREE RAM!!!!" As if a narcissist is going to save them.

Veer ji this man has insulted Mata Sundari ji how can we just ignore him ? Legal action should be taken this man .

a major univerisity should do a study on the mind of an extremist hindu in order to see what exactly it is that turns them into compulsive liars and gives them psychopathic tendencies

LOL

Dude this is a blog post. We got a lot of work if we take this seriously. He is getting free publicity for having no qualifications, authority or legitimacy of being published.

Ignore the monkey and he'll go to sleep :biggrin2:

There is a joke about the Indian army. They say when you join the army they take away your brains, but do not return it when you retire. This guy seems to be a retired Captain and his brain activity is evident from his writings.

His misyonism is funny, this guy has presented a good RsS narrative. I've met harder hindus to debate. But his argument is based around corrupted views from sikh history texts which he claims are corrupted. So what can you say, people like that only see way by the miracle of gurbani

Maharaja Ranjit Singhs mighty empire went to the dogs , just because of a woman.

Maharani Jindan Kaur’s lover ( the biological father of Maharaja Duleep Singh ) Lal Singh and PM Gulab Singh did NOT see eye to eye. She kept needlessly interfering in political affairs. She dismissed PM Gulab Singh and made her lover Lal Singh the Prime Minister on 26 February, 1847.

Look at all the lies and historical distortions this guy is writing. A real shameless person

A humble request benti to all of my sikh brothers kindly report this guys blog and get it closed we cant let such fools disresrespect mata sahib ji and truth about sikh history this is the link to report the blog https://support.google.com/blogger/answer/82111?id=&url=

dont reply to the fool just copy his blog address paste it the above given link and get it closed this is his blog's link

http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.in/2013/07/unknown-history-of-sikhs-and-sikhism.html

http://ajitvadakayil.blogspot.in/2013/02/maharaja-ranjit-singh-rise-and-fall-of.html

http://compare.ebay.co.uk/like/120464050873?//=lv&ltyp=AllFixedPriceItemTypes&//=sbar&_lwgsi=y&cbt=y&lpid=63&device=c&adtype=pla&crdt=0&ff3=1&ff11=ICEP3.0.0&ff12=67&ff13=80&ff14=63

thank u ji

Singh use wax wax ur blades and it should stay good.. Oil dries out after a week or less increasing the chances of rust, mould etcetcetc

veerjee thank u ji

but it wud be more helpful what kind of wax in specifics ?

Waheguru ji ka khalsa

Waheguru ji ki fateh

Please use coconut oil to oil shastars do it once in a week. And sharpen using whetstones

veerjee i have been doing so with coconut oil but the mold inside the myan is staining the shaster badly so badly that i am compelled to use sandpaper to clean the stain every single time which worries me that using sanding paper so frequently might damage the pataa

any solution for the mold(ullii)

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh ji

this thread is for shastar enthusiasts sharing information on how to do seva of cleaning the shastar

what do u use to clean ur kirpan, khanda, tega

what do u use to give dhar sharpen the blade

how do you clean the rust on pataa (blade)

if there is fungus mold (ullii) formation inside the myan how do u clean it

my problem is i am near the coast and there's lots of humidity so what happens is there is mold(ulii) formation inside the myan which puts stain on the pataa when its rainy its disaster then on the pataa and the myan inside

so my main question is any desi tarika to clean the mold from inside the myan as that's the challenging part due the arching shape

actually bjp is much more worser than congress because their main motto is hindutva hindutva hindutva that is why they wont leave any chance to attack sikhi sikhs be it spiritually religiously or economically bjp is like bukal da sapp on one side they pretend to mourn with sikhs about 84 and on the other they are with congress to crush us

As if gujrat is some america, it's a backwards region polluted and far backwards, sikhs would be doing themselves a favour by leaving kutchi land and going back to punjab or delhi or abroad

veerjee ur facts arent clear modi has worked his way up to bring all the big i must say biggest tycoons in india to setup there manufacturing holds in guj and that counts tatas birlas ambani all of them are having there manufacturing factories in guj the only state to invite foriegn investors to setup businesses and every year there is a business conference specially to attract business conglomeretes from china japan dubai to setup businesses there which i have visited personally which is happening since 2006-07 and the state is economically stable

hence there is no need for sikhs now

True, but for a variety of reasons not all women are able to breastfeed.

agreed but that is only when mother is lacking nutrition i hope u have a nutritionist whom u consulted during pregnancy consult the same there are ways u can lactate start on nutritious diet much nutritious i know you already must be taking nutritious diet as u are a mother but even then

and i'd rather suggest 1 year on breast feed out of which 6months should be only breast milk not even water but it all depends on your condition i understand so dont stress ur self on anything read bani eat well and u will do good with maharaji's kirpa

bhul chuk muaf karni

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh

are there any teeka sahib ji's available from dasam granth sahib ji bani such as jaap sahib chopai sahib akal ustat sahib ji or complete dasam granth sahib ji bani by prof sahib singh ji specifically by prof sahib ji

bhul chuk muaf karni ji

The idea is to prioritise where you put your focus.

The thoughts are going to keep coming one after another, but you want the focus to be on the empty gaps between the thoughts.

Keep your focus on the gurmantar that is being recited 'mentally' and quietly. The thoughts are also in this quiet space but you shouldn't follow them or get into them- just let them pass by staying in focus to mental simran.

Only thing I would suggest is to keep doing simran as much as you can throughout the day as much as you can. Doesn't matter if your not sitting down crossed legged with 100% focus. The more you do the more it will start automatically and the more you will want to do it. That's what I try and do and find it really helps. Also try and do simran in the sangat. Read SGGS which will really inspire you to do it. Walking whilst doing simran also helps but keep you dhyan looking down and not looking all over the place.

thank you veerjio

will try

You never know Singh, you just might be right! I already pointed this out in another thread but I doubt anyone took notice.

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/72481-head-to-head-when-crazy-takes-on-a-new-face/?p=591059

http://www.islam-sikhism.info/theo/theo.htm

veerjee take a look at this site i hope u know and they are now trying to challenge bani and i strongly suppose these are pakis operating from the uk

and these from india who will particularly target bhagat bani and will only pick half tuk from which one will fall into their tail spin and start questioning bani

i will try putting more such threads if possible

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh ji

has every body noticed the TS has just started the thread and vanished

unfortunately i feel these ppl anonymously posting such threads aren't sikhs but are muslim or hindu guys who just want to understand the mindset of sikh youngsters and the sikh history too so that they can launch their grooming campaigns cleverly and undefeatedly try to convert sikh youngsters and many such sites and youtube videos are coming up in short span now days

i may be completely wrong but this is what i feel if they already have the knowledge of upcoming tark they will be able to create good loop holes to counter it and brain wash kids

bhul chuk muaf karni

i heard this sakhi once and the bhai sahib doing sakhi stated the statistics unfortunately i am unable to retrieve the sakhi

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh ji

i want know bhai sahib ji's age when he fought mast hathhi as i have heard he was age of 8yrs only

please gurmukh jan put some light on this with the pious sakhi

ps: i have my full sharda and this topic is just about gaining more knowledge about bhai sahib ji's life so i request every gurmukh to refrain from turning the thread into tark zone a humble request

gustakhi maaf karni

I'm guessing your trying to do simran internally with the voice of the mind.

The technique I've have found the most beneficial in helping still the mind first is to put your dhiyaan into your voice just in front of your mouth. Lock in your ears into listening at that position as you say Waheguru. Then watch has your mind begins sit and listen. If it begins to wonder grab it and bring it back there and force it to listen. You will then become more aware when your mind wants to take flights and you will restrain it. With practice your mind will automatically get used to focusing and listening to the shabad. After it learns to sit still then lower the volume and make sure it still sits there. Eventually your dhiyaan will remain in your ears when your japping whether verbally or internally. The ears/mind will become super sensitive and trained that when ever jap is occurring it will automatically learn to sit and listen. Your anand will increase and then with Guru's grace your off.....

If you still find your mind is very active, then jap with your eyes open for a while but keep the focus on the sound of the jaap. If you keep the dhiyaan on the sound in front of lips/mouth you will find that as your mind becomes still the eyes will automatically close.

Hope it helps ji...

waheguru ji ka khalsa waheguru ji ki fateh ji

mine is much more deeper problem i do not even understand that mind has taken off but the rasna is reciting waheguru and after a while ill realise that man is already travelled to a soch then again i try to bring man back again same thing happens

gustakhi maaf karni for this but after a while it even starts to feel bore and sleepy no ras bcoz surat nahi jud rahi in shabad

any help veerjee