lion123

Listen I cannot judge anyone, but the situation needs to be dealt with once and for all. I am sick and tired of hearing stuff like this and I am not the type going round beating people up in fact I do not like to fight at all, no-one does and if anyone tells you that they do they are lieing to you... Yes we need to do paachar and seva etc. But sometimes this is not enough we also need to cause a stir and make news headlines and stop putting our heads in the sand . Muslim extreamist bombed london, and what does the goverment do make excuses for them, and fund muslim teachers on how to teach, we need money invested for Sikh teaching where is that? There are way to many muslim councilors and MPs for my liking, the goverment seems to be sucking up to the muslim community, and worst still the muslims are playing on this. Looking at the major cities in the UK , Manchester, Birmingham, London - it is over run with muslims. What the goverment do not seem to understand is that the majority of certainly young muslims are racist, the goverment seem to make every excuse for them but say they are racist . I have grownup in Birmingham I have seem muslim racists, but no-one including are own community seems to understand how extream they are, I guess one will only understand if one lives in a muslim majority area . Another few points ... - Where there are areas where Sikhs are the minority and Muslims are the Majority ( which are in most cases) we need to do outreach programmes to connect with Sikh families there and help them - Stop going to Muslim shops - Stop voting for Muslim MP's - Lobby the goverment to get laws to stop these kind of problems - Hit the muslim community where it hurts, half them are on benifts and work the taxis, why don't we inform on them to the benifits office. - Change the law so that people on benfits, can only claim for two children, this will stop muslims having big familes ( 5 kids plus) - Increase the SIkh popoultion .

Lotus Flower what area of the UK do you live in? The guy with the Bana, and his sisiter is dating the PAki, why don't you ask one of his friend to to tell the Singh that his sister is dating a paki. Then he should deal with the matter ? Look I do not know what the true statics are ? I know there is alot of Hype and confussion as well, this is why we need to do a professional study, find out where these cases are occuring and bash the <banned word filter activated> out of the PAkis there and make the Police aware also

Yes as I am growing older and older, I seem to agree that we should relay on the on the eternal Guru, and let the Almighty sort this mess out. BUT.... On the other hand out ancestors took up the sword and fought off and defeated these Arabs. The GURU’s wanted out ancestors to stand-up for ourselves. Also we really need to understand how wide spread this problem is ?Lotus_Flower_ made three points – Her aunt saw identified a Sikh convert at her reception . – Can you not try and convert her back, inform her parents she was in the surgey ? She knows of a girl living with a muslim DJ – Can you not tell her parents or someone in the community to deal with the situation. She knows of many girls that have had babies that have been fathered by Muslims – Luckily I have not met these women yet. Who are they , where do they live , what is the true number of people that fall under this category. How many Sikhs in the UK have converted to Islam, how many women have converted ? All of the above incidents you can inform the Sikh Help Line or the Sikh Awareness Society. I remember when the women from West Bromwich was brain-washed, as a result there was supposed to be a project funded by the Gurudwara to get real statisics , whats happened to the project ? The project was the supposed to be forwarded to the government for action. Also another side matter, I was at the Coventry Vasakhi Mela, three incidents occurred which I do not understand ? - Two pakis (they looked like pakis- no Kara etc) , one quite big walking around the mela like he owns the show and like he could take any Sikh girl if he wanted, he walked right upto a group of SIkh men shook there hands and walked off.. The group of Sikhs are the same type handing out leaflets about being aware of Muslim ( which is quite right) what I do not understand is why this Sikhs did not tell the pakis to get out of the mela. - One Sikh girl ( I think she was Sikh ) got punched and was bleeding. Who did that , what happened ? - There was another Paki walking around smoking with his family? What I do not understand is how these muslims have the balls to walk around the mela like the dogs bollocks and one was even smoking, I know for a fact, if a Sikh went to a EID mela, he would be killed. These Muslims are a real problem, its not a joke any more. Our community is not doing enough. A large number of people in jail are muslims, they have no problem committing crimes and are from a street

Could you clarify what you mean by the below statement I do not understand it? Also what hapeened to Kiranpreet, I am sure by now if you know about the photos so will her parents, so why does she not convert back ? (I know saying it and doing it are entirly differnet ) : ******* would have loved to see the Singhs who back in the day ran away, stick with us in Luton, they looked as if they were Guru Ke Singh, warriors wearing bana, however these were the first ones to leave us, if we don't see each other as brothers and sisters how can we expect to appeal to youngsters as Gursikhs?

Yes I know of someone that works in the public sector and deals in customer services dealing with the public, he states that he know of sikh women coming with the kaur in the middle name and then a muslim surname . I also heard last year three Sikhs from Wolverhampton converts to Islam what the hell is going on ? If a muslim is specifically changing his name via D-POLL to convert Sikh women, We need to expose these people to the police could you not expose him to the police , there must be some law broken hear, or even the local Gurudwara, MPS etc. We need to reach out to sikhs that have converts and convert them back into Sikhi If anyone knows of a women going out with a Musilim or a someone else, I think there respective parents should be advised ASAP through the right channel . It may not be easy, but we should try. At the end of the day there is only one way these Muslims will understand and that is if we show them that we will not put up with it any more, I am sure other communities are thinking the same, like the White community.

confusingh do you mean that muslims are changing there names by D-POll so they can pretend to be muslim and then try and marry sikh women, or is it that Sikhs are converting at an alarming rate?