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  1. It's not THEM were talking about as we already said in the first post that everyone followed the proper protocols APART from Bob Ainsworth who is not in these Photographs and the one photo of him that was taken was taken After the Event.As one of the main guests why isn't he on any of these pics?,
  2. Some further details and developments to this issue ( see earlier post ) http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=44857 The meeting was origonally planned for the Ramgharia community centre in Foleshill but for some reason was changed the day before by Sucha Singh Bains. people who were present at the occasion included the following: Gian Singh Shokur (Presedent) Mahar Singh Kang (vice stage sec) Surinder Singh Sahota (mantainence secretary ) Lakhbir Singh (Giani of GNP) Tersem Singh Shokur ( Indian Community Centre ) Baldev Singh Sahota ( Indian Community Centre ) Avtar Singh Sanghera ( Leader Babbar Khalsa UK ) Sucha Singh Bains (labour councillor) Ram Parkash Lakha (Ex lord mayor) Its incredible that not one of the above either noticed or spoke out . It also seems strange that so few Sikhs are offended or angered by this disrespect ,hot on the heels of Bow and recent events at Darbar Sahib ? I think most people either don't believe it ( even though nobody's denying it!) or have grown so used to this kind of thing they can't be bothered anymore and certainly some people seem to think this is somehow a small matter, which could be due to the lack of detail in the apology given on stage to the Sangat . What have we come to? Strong letters of complaint have been handed to the committee by those who witnessed it first hand but the committee they cannot respond to them officially until at least 11 members are available ( again it shows how trivial they think it is if they can't even call a special meeting to discuss the complaints officially ) Many personal approaches have been made to the President by outraged Sikhs including prof (Leamington) who after asking for some explanation of how this disrespect was allowed to happen have suggested the above named should offer themselves before the Panje and Sadh Sangat and accept whatever judgement or punishment is given, only to be told by the President that the simple apology made to the Sangat on the Sunday was enough. Put simply Sikhism to these people is only about Politics, power and money and nothing at all to do with Faith or Belief We are trying to organise a peaceful demonstration or program such as a Simran day or Car park sit down, but we would welcome any suggestions or ideas for other peaceful forms of protest or action. We will keep you updated of any further developments. Bob Ainsworth will inevitably enter another Gurdwara and should be either blacklisted or asked to make a public apology before doing so. As for the Committee members concerned we believe they should resign Now and without delay as every day they remain in their positions is a further insult to the Sangat, the wider Panth and Guru Granth Sahib and indeed to all decent minded people of Faith. If you would like to join our Facebook group the name is Guru Granth Sahib Disrespected ( Again! ) In COVENTRY
  3. Yes it did happenand many well respected people who saw it first hand and even some of the commitees own traditional supporters were outraged and disgusted and as was said the apology for the act was made in front of the whole Sangat. true is true.
  4. Shame on MP Bob Ainsworth -Expenses -now this Yet more disrespect for Guru Granth Sahib On Wednesday the 27th of May Harriet Harman the deputy prime minister and Bob Ainsworth Minister for Armed forces and MP for Coventry North East, together with Nina Gill the labour E.U. Parliamentry candidate visited the Gurdwara Guru Nanak Parkash in Coventry. This visit was privately arranged and known only to some of Bob Ainsworths friends and supporters within the current committee After arriving and being met by the Gurdwara president and some other members they had a private meeting in a downstairs hall. Following this the whole group of around 40-50 people moved upstairs to the main Divan hall where the visitors were given a saropa by the committee. What is remarkable is that throughout this process and despite being reminded by the vice stage secretary while still downstairs to cover heads and remove shoes ( which everyone did ) Bob Ainsworth kept his shoes on and his head uncovered throughout the whole process, even recieving saropa without a word being said or any one raising any objections! It was only after someone in the Sangat eventually shouted out his disgust that the minister eventually removed his shoes and placed them next to Maharajah palki and quickly covered his head before having a photo taken. Its hard to comprehend how this total lack of respect for our eternal Guru and disregard for the most basic protocol of visiting a Gurdwara could be allowed to happen. Who does Bob Ainsworth think he is ? Over the years he's been in many many Gurdwaras and is well aware of the procedures so ignorance is not a defence, however despite his own disregard of Sikh protocol the greatest guilt must lay with those committee members who stood by and allowed this to happen and who in true Punjabi fashion put their quest for political and personal favours above any concept of respect for their faith or Guru Granth Sahib. On the following Sunday( and responding to growing anger and disgust within the Sangat) a half hearted apology was reluctantly made on stage but quite frankly this is not enough. If these people were truly Sikhs the barest minimum would be to confess to the Panje Pyare and take any punishment given but if they have so little respect or belief in Guru Ji why would they have any more in the Panje. Those committee members concerned should immediately resign, every day they remain is an insult to the Sangat and to the Guru. Furthermore Bob Ainsworth should be asked make a very public apology. This is the latest in a string of disrespectful acts by members of this current and self elected committee. including the non Amrit Dhari Librarian who, when taking schools on tours has twice been seen ripping the Ramala from Guru ji without any respect or ceremony and referring to Guru Granth Sahib always as a book! (and this man has a copy of Guru Granth Sahib in his home ! ) How much longer should we tolerate this behaviour of self serving committees who run Gurdwaras as nothing more than their own personal clubs, from which they play out their corrupt political games and hidden agendas and who court politicians in the hope of personal favours, leverage and protection as if they were still in the Punjab. A petition has been started registering the sangats disgust and outrage which calls for the immediate resignation of those committee members involved. Further actions including a peaceful demonstration programme or event are also being planned. Alternatively if you would like to lodge a personal complaint directly to Bob Ainsworth or GNP Gurdwara they can be contacted at the following: Bob Ainsworth MP, Bayley House, 22-23 Bayley Lane, Coventry, CV1 5RJ Tel: 02476 22 67 07 Fax: 02476 433 401 Westminster Bob Ainsworth MP House of Commons Westminster London SW1A 0AA email smithn@parliament.uk fax 020 7219 2889 phone 020 7219 4047 Gurdwara Guru Nanak Parkash 71 - 81 Harnall lane Coventry tel 02476 226057 ( 7-8 pm)
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