naaz

Hello Ji,

Thank U 4 uploading this here = it's my favorite & one of the members asked me 2 put this simran up on this site here cause I was bragging about how peaceful & beautiful it is. Gyanni Thakur Singh gave it 2 me & I've been playing it 24/7 ever since = like 3 yrs ago. Could U brother please post it 4 me on the kirtan area & just mention that it's Naaz's favorite cause all know that I'm muslim & wanted 2 know what I'm so in love with & it's thru Thakur bhaiyya & this simran that I am so close 2 WaheGuru ! It de stress's U & relaxes U so much. My son is a teenager & he's always in the car with me but will listen quietly 2 it cause he feel it too. Thank U so much 4 putting this simran up = GOD BLESS U !

There's also the same version with a BibiJi = her voice is so beautiful but even better when both the men & women sing together = thats my

favorite part = where both of them sing WaheGuru 2gether = Soooo Loving !

Brother, do U know who sings this cause I never got a chance 2 ask Thakur bhaiyya & can anyone tell me which instruments are used in this

tape. I loved the part where it sounds like the guitar that I got it edited specially 4 me = I like the high note parts. Don't know anything about

music or instruments so exscuse me if I'm off but I know music & this is the best simran I've ever heard. I have another one by joginger singh Rhia & it starts off with " meeth bolna ji, meeth bolna na, har sajan swami mora." I'm hooked to that also & listen 2 it just as much as this one = both is playing in car everytime I'm driving. Thank U Soooo much again.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=YtD4nNOPE-4

Hello everyone,

U are right, they are pig headed when it comes admitting the mistakes of Orangzeb or anyone else from that clan cause they don't know about it. It's not worth arguing with

them cause I'm Islamic, not muslim cause I think they're the ones doing Jihaad or killing people in the name of GOD. I believe the brother who said that the king

had the Quran burned all the originals & had them rewritten = that makes sense cause we n't 4 a secdoond believe in harming anyone nor taught that = me & my family that is.

Their like that in our family though = just say that it was not our ancestors & don't want 2 hear the facts. Since I've been going 2 the Gurdwara, I've learned a lot & throw the truth in their face. The don't like it but too bad = it's the truth. They don't even want 2 read about it & just argue. I think Islam came 1st = from Abraham & then muslim religion came later = thats where all the killers like Orangzeb or from his lineage started cause I'm tellin U brothers, we don't believe in fighting or killin over religion. So, actually there's 2 kinds of them & we're from Fiji so most don't have no knowledge of the genocide. We're from Fiji & we've never been in any kind of war or fights = thank GOD that we didn't experience that but feel really bad about the ones who went thru it . Our grandparents were from Fiji also & only their parents know of India. All our elders have past away

so I can't even question them. Just wanted 2 tell U the truth from my side cause I don't believe in turning your face the other way cause U don't want 2 look bad = they should admit their religions mistakes & say sorry instead of just denying it. Pisses me off ! Before I would had said same, don't waste yo time of those ignorant = ignoring the facts but if U can get 2 his intellect with facts & the very good advice of the brothers here without fighting = HEY, let him know ! And the ones who are really ignorant = save yo breath & don't waste it on those loosers. I love sikhi religion = it's Soooo spiritual compared to ours = I find it's religious but then there were the mystics who were spiritual like Rabia,

bullah shah & Rumi. Just had 2 put my 2 sense in here cause I know how it is !

The part where U say, Bhagti is nothing but a love story between individual soul and infinite divine power - all pervading - Param Atma!

Antar mun mei jyoti jagaalo = Pramatma ko pehchano & all the darkness & vices will automatically dissolve.

U say U don't see it in Gurdwaras anymore = Brother, it's the same in every church, temple or masjid. The little things that they nit & pick about =

drives people away. LOVE what U said, just follow GODLY code of conduct = meditate, pray, yoga means 2 REMEMBER him 24/7, in everything we do,

such as eating, working, sleeping & waking up & automatically he will PURIFY us. It is this simple = in this day & age it's very hard 2 be religious,

spirituality works much better but I know there's certain peoply who need 2 obey the laws or else they get devilish so then being religious is good 4

them. I have a friend who says she has 2 go 2 church or else she gets vicious = that the services at her church really help her 2 be good. I went 2 a masjid

in Texas cause I was visiting my brother & went 2 pray there. One of the lead ladies came up 2 me & gave me a big shawl 2 cover up with when praying cause

she said my hands & some of my hair was showing = keep in mind that it was summer & burnin up in Texas. YES, I was very well covered up cause I've been

going 2 prayers all my life & did nothing out of the ordinary. SO, I just said whatever & used her shawl 2 pray with I didn't want any conflicts but she did tick me

off. After prayer, I noticed other ladies there from bangladesh who dressed like me so I couldn't make sense of that lady cause I don't go 2 that masjid. DO U think

I went back there = NO. Not that she deterred me but I don't need no masjid or Qazi 2 be close 2 GOD = my body is my temple & I can POWER UP whenever I want =

just meditate & simr & do my prayers & I'm connected 2 him. I just went 2 masjid 2 satisfy my brother but 2 some other, that lady will push them away. U think

she is gonna get GODS blessing for deterring them from his house of worship = hell NO !! This is wat I've been noticing everywhere & I go 2 Gurdwara a lot also so

I here wat U saying brother !

Who do U think GOD is gonna reward, # 1 or #2 ????

1. GOD, I follow your code of conduct exactly, did my daily prayers, am a sikhi or muslim = dressed accordingly, went 2 temple all the time & didn't sin

but I did hurt a lot of souls by putting them down 4 not being like me.

2. GOD, I wasn't a strict sikhi or muslim, didn't make all my prayers, didn't dress religiously according 2 my religion but I never hurt anyone & LOVED all

no matter what race, religon or color.

Thank U servant of sat , I second what U say = Love 4 all, Hatred 4 none. We're all born & brought up in different religions & our ancestors down 2 our

parents have been following that religion so we HONOR it & follow it even though sometimes we're attracted or connected 2 another. Dosen't make the

other wrong = all goes 2 the same place = ONE GOD = ONE LOVE !!! Meeth bolna jee, meeth bolna, har sajan Swami mera = WaheGuru, WaheGuru, WaheGuroooooooo !

I am from Islamic faith but LOVE WaheGuru so what 2 do = LOVE him, that's all & not fight with one another & respect each others religion but mostly, get along.

Why are we different colors, culture or religions = GOD made us that way 2 teach us that we're different but the same = human. I'm only human, born 2 make mistakes.

Religion divides people = spirituality brings us together !

We have good virtues & then there's the bad ones but our main goal is 2 FIGHT the five vices = Lust, Anger, Greed, Ego & attachments so that it dosent' make us vicious.

Fight the fight vices & win the war against maya & Fateh = VICTORY , Khalsa!!!!! WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki fateh = be PURE, become as pure as poss & we shall enter

the land of Pure, Khalsa = Paradise. We are all souls & GOD is the supreme soul = point of light & we have 2 leave this body 2 go to the soul world. Soul conciousness is the way

2 go, not body conciousness = Joth se joth jagaatey chalo, PREM ki ganga bahaatey chalo, prem ki ganga bahaatey chalo. All religions believe in GOD as light, just Remember him, REMEMBER him 24/7 & he will PURIFY us & transform ourselves with DIVINE virtues, the ultimate test is 2 become bodiless, total detachment = soul concious. When we are body

concious, then we have attachments = if we stay soul concious , all the attachments will automatically break like old leaves falling from the tree.

Simro simr, simr sukh pavo = joh simre, joh simre, woh sukh pavey . Pramatma Ko Pehchano cause a TRUE LOVER constantly thinks of their Beloved = stay pure in the

pilgrimage of Remembrance of WaheGuru & become Elevated = beat the drums of Victory , Fateh !

May we constantly remain Elevated & VICTORIOUS by using the soul concious method to transform our thoughts, words & actions & inspire others too !

My exact thoughts brother, U wrote my exact thoughts as I was reading the highlighted blue print about the mosque being named

after Syed stupid = LOOK how it's destroyed time & time again & it WILL be destroyed time & time again. I cannot believe how they

would name a mosque after a monster like that !!!

as far as i could get. he didnt say anything against sikhs or sikhism...he was actually criticising some muslim who on indian soil went against some muslims and sikhs as well due to taliban like extremist views of him...today taliban is doin the same in pakistan what that muslim man did in indian some time back...!

My understanding of what he is saying is that the talebans are acting and looking like Sikh sardars, he is critizing the talebans by using the example of syed ahmed guy who was a islamo-facist jihadi against Sikh rule back in the 18th century. Syed Ahmed was a tekfiri waahabi sunni islamo-facist who did not like the British or Sikhs basically any non-muslim. He wanted to destory Sikh rule so launched a jihad after many attacks on Sikhs and their pasthun allies he was finally slaughtered in the battlefield by the Khalsa army in balakot, now in pakistan.

Here some info i found on this syed ahmed guy.

http://en.wikipedia....d_Ahmad_Shaheed

www.murree.com/balakot.html+balakot+ahmed&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

The Sikhs invaded Mansehra in the year 1818 after stiff resistance from its inhabitants. As the Mansehra region fell under Sikh control, it was annexed to Punjab. Syed Ahmad Shaheed and Shah Ismail Shaheed with the help of the Mujahadeen, including the Swatis of Balakot and Syeds of Kaghan, led many revolts and attacks against the Sikhs. At last on 6th May 1831 during a fierce battle Syed Ahmad Shaheed and Shah Ismail Shaheed along with hundreds of their followers were killed. The central mosque of Balakot is named after Syed Ahmed Shaheed. Qazi Khalil Ahmed District Khateeb of District Mansehra,is the present Khateeb of Central Syed Ahmed Shaheed Mosque Balakot. The mosque is destroyed second time by the natural disaster, as it was just reconstructed again after being destroyed by a 1992 flood in Balakot.

Clearly a sign from Waheguru Ji, that time after time the masjid bearing this guys name will be torn down and destoryed. 80,000 muslims in kashmir were wiped out in the earthquake in kashmir back in 2005.

WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh,

Azaad Ji, you really do write such moving, beautiful & inspirational stories - please keep posting more cause we really do ENJOY them. Thank U very much !!!

Wahe Guru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh Mehtaab Singh Ji,

Thank U so much for this post of yours - this is exactly what I needed = a good slap - this is exactly what my hukumama was & I'm still worrying. This is exactly what I was told - to leave everything & all worries up 2 WaheGuru & just tun mun se WaheGuru Ji ke naam gao - bus,nothing else is important & nothing else matters - 2 just concentrate on WaheGuru & have 100% faith in him & he will take care of me. Thank U Mehtaab Ji for your message today - I asked & so I received AGAIN - LORD Help me - please don't let me make this mistake again cause I will deserve a good beating next time ! Exactly what U just said Mehtaab bhai, GOD BLESS you, thank you !!!

eyko jip eyko swlwih ]

eaeko jap eaeko saalaahi ||

Meditate on the One, and worship the One.

eyku ismir eyko mn Awih ]

eaek simar eaeko man aahi ||

Remember the One, and yearn for the One in your mind.

eyks ky gun gwau Anµq ]

eaekas kae gun gaao ana(n)th ||

Sing the endless Glorious Praises of the One.

min qin jwip eyk BgvMq ]

man than jaap eaek bhagava(n)th ||

With mind and body, meditate on the One Lord God.

eyko eyku eyku hir Awip ]

eaeko eaek eaek har aap ||

The One Lord Himself is the One and Only.

WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh,

Thank U so much 4 uploading Sant Babaji's katha but I second it also, could U please upload it on video form - the audio's I seem 2 understand

& keeps me interested much longer. Also one more request please - could someone translate this in english - since it's such a mysterious topic -

we would be very grateful . Thank U again & can someone please tell me of sites where I could see Sant Baba Hari Singh's video's besides

Gurmatveechar - I've seen all of his videos there but I don't understand too much punjabi so it's hard 4 me. Thank U so much & this website is

very inspiring & uplifting - wonderful posts from everyone - keep up the Good work. Thank you, Naaz

I listen to this Neh Kalank Avtaar katha around 10years ago at old Rexdale Gurdwara Toronto. I been looking for this long time because I forgot where this katha was from.....

Now I found it and want to share with sangat.

http://gurbaniupdesh...andhawe+Wale%29

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-01.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-02.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-03.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-04.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-05.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-06.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-07.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-08.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-09.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-10.mp3

http://gurbaniupdesh...20Avtaar-11.mp3

We need Namstang to translate this katha into English. Just the way he translate Jap Ji Sahib Katha

http://www.sikhsanga...showtopic=15451

mwJ mhlw 5 ]

maajh mehalaa 5 ||

Maajh, Fifth Mehla:

kihAw krxw idqw lYxw ]

kehiaa karanaa dhithaa lainaa ||

As You command, I obey; as You give, I receive.

grIbw AnwQw qyrw mwxw ]

gareebaa anaathhaa thaeraa maanaa ||

You are the Pride of the meek and the poor.

sB ikCu qUMhY qUMhY myry ipAwry qyrI kudriq kau bil jweI jIau ]1]

sabh kishh thoo(n)hai thoo(n)hai maerae piaarae thaeree kudharath ko bal jaaee jeeo ||1||

You are everything; You are my Beloved. I am a sacrifice to Your Creative Power. ||1||

BwxY auJV BwxY rwhw ]

bhaanai oujharr bhaanai raahaa ||

By Your Will, we wander in the wilderness; by Your Will, we find the path.

BwxY hir gux gurmuiK gwvwhw ]

bhaanai har gun guramukh gaavaahaa ||

By Your Will, we become Gurmukh and sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord.

BwxY Brim BvY bhu jUnI sB ikCu iqsY rjweI jIau ]2]

bhaanai bharam bhavai bahu joonee sabh kishh thisai rajaaee jeeo ||2||

By Your Will, we wander in doubt through countless lifetimes. Everything happens by Your Will. ||2||

nw ko mUrKu nw ko isAwxw ]

naa ko moorakh naa ko siaanaa ||

No one is foolish, and no one is clever.

vrqY sB ikCu qyrw Bwxw ]

varathai sabh kishh thaeraa bhaanaa ||

Your Will determines everything;

Agm Agocr byAMq AQwhw qyrI kImiq khxu n jweI jIau ]3]

agam agochar baea(n)th athhaahaa thaeree keemath kehan n jaaee jeeo ||3||

You are Inaccessible, Incomprehensible, Infinite and Unfathomable. Your Value cannot be expressed. ||3||

Kwku sMqn kI dyhu ipAwry ]

khaak sa(n)than kee dhaehu piaarae ||

Please bless me with the dust of the Saints, O my Beloved.

Awie pieAw hir qyrY duAwrY ]

aae paeiaa har thaerai dhuaarai ||

I have come and fallen at Your Door, O Lord.

drsnu pyKq mnu AwGwvY nwnk imlxu suBweI jIau ]4]7]14]

dharasan paekhath man aaghaavai naanak milan subhaaee jeeo ||4||7||14||

Gazing upon the Blessed Vision of His Darshan, my mind is fulfilled. O Nanak, with natural ease, I merge into Him. ||4||7||14||

Charni Aayi tera charni aayi tera - apna naam deyo apna naam deyo - WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Waheguru

This translation is an updated version.

Whoa Humkire Bhai, Okay, so I hear that they are pushing 2 convert people but I have not noticed it that bad in our group 2 tell U the truth. It MUST be different in those countries - I don't know what else 2 say but YES, I have 2 do some research now - don't really care to cause I know we're not like that but believe me, I HEAR U !!! LIke I said, the worst I have noticed is that when someone comes 2 our mosque - they push them with literature & about coming 2 masjid all the time. Thats what I liked about sikhism - nobody ever came up 2 me or try 2 push me into the religion. U can convert as many people U want but if it's not from their heart - what good is that - who they trying to show or prove - just humans - like ants 2 me & another number. GOD see's all & he's sab se bada - Oocha se Oocha Bhagvant !!! WaheGuru naam Jahaaj hai, charai so utre paar, jo sharda kar semvde Guru par utaran haar

krq iPry bn ByK mohn rhq inrwr ]1] rhwau ]

karath firae ban bhaekh mohan rehath niraar ||1|| rehaao ||

Some wander around the forests, wearing religious robes, but the Fascinating Lord remains distant from them. ||1||Pause||

kQn sunwvn gIq nIky gwvn mn mih Drqy gwr ]1]

kathhan sunaavan geeth neekae gaavan man mehi dhharathae gaar ||1||

They talk, preach, and sing their lovely songs, but within their minds, the filth of their sins remains. ||1||

Aiq suMdr bhu cqur isAwny ibidAw rsnw cwr ]2]

ath su(n)dhar bahu chathur siaanae bidhiaa rasanaa chaar ||2||

They may be very beautiful, extremely clever, wise and educated, and they may speak very sweetly. ||2||

mwn moh myr qyr ibbrijq eyhu mwrgu KMfy Dwr ]3]

maan moh maer thaer bibarajith eaehu maarag kha(n)ddae dhhaar ||3||

To forsake pride, emotional attachment, and the sense of 'mine and yours', is the path of the double-edged sword. ||3||

khu nwnk iqin Bvjlu qrIAly pRB ikrpw sMq sMgwr ]4]1]31]

kahu naanak thin bhavajal thareealae prabh kirapaa sa(n)th sa(n)gaar ||4||1||31||

Says Nanak, they alone swim across the terrifying world-ocean, who, by God's Grace, join the Society of the Saints. ||4||1||31||

And yes, I've heard them say that Guru Nanak was muslim & I don't believe that. Just because he hung out with muslims friends & maybe wore some clothes that they gave him - they get off saying that - I don't believe it cause he's your leader & I'm just like him - I hang out with priests & go 2 Gurudwara all the time dosen't give people the right 2 say I'm Sikh. I know exactly how people manipulate things & I can see right thru it. They're just trying 2 use that as artillary 2 coerce girls into converting. Thats not TRUE religion = they're just playing the numbers game = 2 show, Oh, we have the most followers so our religion is true. WRONG, they might have a big army & ours small but they only have soldiers - we got warriors & gladiators on our team so we WILL win !!! It's the not the quantity - the quality that matters, not throwing yo weight around but technique, skills. People who don't associate with other race or religion are scared of the truth - I'm NOT, I can hang out with all race & religion & will not leave the dharam that GOD bore me in cause obviously it was 4 a reason. But I hear U Humkire - if I get carried away & feel I need 2 convert, I surely will. This is what Hari uncle said the last time I talked 2 him & thats why I want 2 talk to him more but like I said, it's long distance & I never called him before so he's finding it rather uncomfortable that I'm questioning him. He said that we would have 2 sit down & talk about this & thats gonna be hard cause he's in NewZealand. But your religion is very Gawjis - bahut sundar that I have fallen in Love with the Love of my LIFE - me Lord God WaheGuru & he's gonna take care of me from now on !!! Whatever he says " I Do". There, marriage perfomed & honeymoon's on the way. This is the song 2 our 1st dance - Mera pyaar bhi tu hai, yeh bahaar bhi tu hai, tu hi nazron mei jaaney tamannaaaa, tu hi Nazaaron mein, Hazaaron mein, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Tu hi tuhi tuhi tuhi - WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Wahe Guru Wahe Guru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Wahe Guruuuuuuuuuuuuu

Sorry Humkire bhai - I would love 2 invite U over 4 dinner but I'm off 2 honeymoon - U missed the wedding. I'll tell WaheGuru 2 shower U with heavenly sweets instead...I'm sure you'll savor that much much more.

This Shabad is by Bhai Gurdaas Ji in Vaars Bhai Gurdaas on Pannaa 13

gurmuiK suK Plu pRym rsu Aibgiq giq BweI]

guramukh sukh fal praem ras abigath gath bhaaee||

Divine is the taste of the joy of Love, which is the pleasure fruit of the Gurmukhs.

pwrwvwru Apwru hY ko Awie n jweI]

paaraavaar apaar hai ko aae n jaaee||

It’s this shore and the yonder one are beyond limits none can reach it.

Awid AMiq prjMq nwih prmwid vfweI]

aadh a(n)th paraja(n)th naahi paramaadh vaddaaee||

Its beginning and end are unfathomable and its grandeur is most eminent.

hwQ n pwie AQwh dI Asgwh smweI]

haathh n paae athhaah dhee asagaah samaaee||

It is so much that many of the oceans immerse in it yet its depth remains unknown.

iprm ipAwly bUMd iek ikin kImiq pweI]

piram piaalae boo(n)dh eik kin keemath paaee||

Who could evaluate even one drop of such a cup of Love.

Agmhu Agm AgwiD boD gur AlKu lKweI ]12]

agamahu agam agaadhh bodhh gur alakh lakhaaee ||12||

It is inaccessible and its knowledge is unfathomable, but the Guru can make one realise this imperceptible cup of Love.(12)

Aaha So Near, yes, thats one one with the lady singing together @ the end of the simran right - very beautiful voice.

I don't know who these singers are but Giani Thakur Singh gave me the C.D. I asked him & he said he didn't know either.

I don't know how 2 post songs or videos on computer or this site but I'll try when my nephew gets back in town, he's really

good with computer. There's a simran of her just singing this alone also - I loved it so much that I had someone edit it 4

me cause I love the guitar part & can't get enough of it. Where or how did U hear it SoNear ?? I had copies of it made @

El Sobrante Gurudwara 2 give people - so they can get hooked 2 simran. LOVE IT, just LOVE It & will always be my favorite.

I remember THak Bahiyya gave it 2 me & said, U will like this, it's got some western beat 2 it & cause he knows I like music.

I tell ya - he can read me like a book cause I've been listening 2 it for 3 yrs now - thats all that plays in my car - I feel like it's

dua - makes me feel so safe that I don't even feel like saying my prayer before hitting the road. I'll try my all 2 post it up

here 4 U & everyone SoNear , Fateh, Naaz

I think i've seen your blog, while searching for kirtan.

if it's the same one can you post the vaheguru simran done on the guitar by a bibi ji - sounds beautiful

Hello Metab Singh,

I'm so glad I found your post - I'm Naaz & I'm from EL Sobrante Gurudwara - I'm so happy I'm conversing with someone from our Gurudwara. I left there last year but have been going there only 3 yrs now. I was just up there end of June & was lucky enough 2 catch SantBaba Hari Singh - did U come 2 any of this katha's this June? When was the last time U were up there? The head priest was bhai Kuldeep Singh & he's so religious & very good but he moved to Sacramento Gurudwara & now Makhan Singh is the presiding priest.I always prayed 4 Makhan Bhaiyya 2 be the head priest there cause woh aetna bandagi karey ki I can't tell you. U will LOVE Makhan Bhaiyya - he is so deeply devoted to WaheGuru - he's so HOLY & his eyes are always closed cause he's so deep in meditation - even when he does kirtan. He was the asst priest & now he's the head priest. Avtaar bhaiyya is the head ragi there - Man can he sing - he makes me cry when he sings WaheGuru simran & Jaggu bhaiyya plays the tabla Soooooooo good. Everyone in that Gurudwara belong there & are so true. Metab Singh, El Sobrante is so beautiful, High up on the Hill & waha ke hawa kuch aur hai - definitley U can feel DIVINE Energy up there. I can sit there 4 hrs alone & sometimes I'd go there twice a day, morn & night - it's so peaceful & YES, the view is very relaxing. U will love the evening prayer - Makhan bhaiyya's dua is so touching cause he does it from the heart & all the sevadars get together every night for the Shakara. I've been 2 another Gurudwara where the priest didn't even come 4 closing prayer & they just considered it a job & only one sevadar would be there doing the shakara - so I missed El Sobrante even more & really appreciate it . It's such a Big & Neat Gurudwara - there's always Ragi's or priests visting there - very special Gurudwara. I've been 2 Fremont Gurudwara, Union City, Hayward, Stockton, Tracy but LOVE my Gurudwara the most. Oh I'm sure the ones in India are super but I'm happy with El Sobrante. I also Love Stockton Gurudwara cause it was the 1st Gurudwara in Cali so it means a lot 2 me. My cousin lives there so whenever we visit her, I pop in 2 Stockton Gurudwara.

Maybe we've seen each other - too bad I get 2 know U & I'm not there anymore. I know just about all the regulars there now by face - I haven't really caught their names but I know all the sevadars. Well, hopefully you're up there all the time & soaking up the Energy cause we know there's definitely DIVINE Energy up there. If I didn't have a house up there, I would live @ Gurudwara. Okay, hope 2 hear some good news from U & hopefully U can keep me updated on my Gurudwara.

qyrw kIqw jwqo nwhI mYno jogu kIqoeI ]

thaeraa keethaa jaatho naahee maino jog keethoee ||

I have not appreciated what You have done for me, Lord; only You can make me worthy.

mY inrguixAwry ko guxu nwhI Awpy qrsu pieEeI ]

mai niraguniaarae ko gun naahee aapae tharas paeiouee ||

I am unworthy - I have no worth or virtues at all. You have taken pity on me.

qrsu pieAw imhrwmiq hoeI siqguru sjxu imilAw ]

tharas paeiaa miharaamath hoee sathigur sajan miliaa ||

You took pity on me, and blessed me with Your Mercy, and I have met the True Guru, my Friend.

nwnk nwmu imlY qW jIvW qnu mnu QIvY hirAw ]1]

naanak naam milai thaa(n) jeevaa(n) than man thheevai hariaa ||1||

O Nanak, if I am blessed with the Naam, I live, and my body and mind blossom forth. ||1||

I don't know how much this story is going to inspire anyone. There is not much to say, nothing too great as compared to the stories above, so just gonna give it a try. I wish I could name the people who helped me a great deal in becoming what I am, but since they may not appreciate it, I am gonna refrain from naming them. But you know who you are, and I will always be the dust of your feet!!

I was born in a non-Sikh family, Punjabi Brahmin to be specific. Till I was nearly 19, I grew up in the United Arab Emirates, an Islamic country. My entire schooling, including my first year in college was done there. I saw the Hindi movie Maachis on T.V. This movie did the job of providing air to a hidden spark. The various scenes of Gurdwaras, the sound of Gurbani being sung gave me immense inner delight. Towards the end of 1997, when I was only 18 years and a few months, I sensed that some massive change was about to come in my life.

I did some research on Sikhism on the internet which I had started using only after I was 18 and half years old. To my utter shock, I found the answers to all my lifelong spiritual queries which were left unanswered by every other religion. I fell in love with Guru Nanak!! Soon after I started doing path of Sri Sukhmani Sahib and fell in love with this Bani as well.

I came to USA in August 1998, in the white majority and known to be racist part of the US. Thanks to the internet, I drowned myself into knowledge about Sikhi, Sikh history and everything else related to Sikhi. I would listen to Gurbani and kathas on the internet

In the summer of 2003 I joined Sikhsangat.com. Now my Sikhi went on a rampage. I fell deeper and deeper into it. I met new Singhs on the net, talked to some over the telephone. I was sent "In Search of the True Guru", the autobiography of Bhai Rama Singh ji by a Singh from this forum (yeah man you know who you are lol). I never liked AKJ style keertan, but after I saw the live telecast of the November 2003 L.A. Samagam, I got addicted to it. In December 2003 I read Bhai Rama Singh ji's autobiography, and only after reading half of the book i decided to quit shaving and cutting my hair. Another veerjee from India who posts here sometimes urged me a lot to maintain strict Amritvela, and that was the reason I was able to stay strong. As my beard and hair grew, I cut myself off from everyone totally. People would ask my sister, who stayed with me, as to what was going wrong with me. I received absolutely no motivation from my family, or even the few Sikh acquaintances that I knew in my university. As surprising as you may find, the ones to congratulate me on my transformation were the Hindus and Muslims I knew.

June 2004 was the twentieth anniversary of Operation Bluestar, the attack on Darbar Sahib. One Singh from California was kind enough to take me with him to Chicago where a Shaheedi Samagam was held. Here, for the first time in my life, I saw and met so many Amritdharis. I stayed with them for almost a week, and never for a moment did I feel that they were people other than my family. This was when I got my name changed as well. We visited a Singh, who was one of my panj pyaare in the very near future. He gifted me with 2 kirpans, 1 small and 1 huge. I put it on here itself. This Singh was breathtakingly chardi kala!! I couldn't stop my tears as I left his place. I couldn't talk.

August 2004 arrived. It was exactly an year ago in these days. Gurujee helped me and I found transport. May Waheguru bless the Singh who took pains to arrange for my transport. I was with 2 Sikhs who drove me from Oklahoma to California. We stopped for a night at a gas station in Phoenix, Arizona. I felt very sad, as I wanted to reach El Sobrante by Thursday and spend some time with the sangat, but this was Wednesday night, and we were still in Arizona. But Gurujee's ways are amazing. I was going to give my head to Him, and He couldn't see me sad. At the gas station I saw an American Singh. He was Caucasian. He saw me and had a bright smile on his face. I went upto him, folded my hands and said Vaaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh, and he responded with Vaaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh. I told him I was going to take Amrit and that we had got delayed. He assured me that when one goes for a good purpose, God is always with you. These words came as words from Gurujee that He was with me!!

I reached Bakersfield and spent a few hours at night at the home of a Singh. He was very kind and dropped me off at the bus station late at night. I took the bus from Bakersfield to Oakland, where 2 amazing Singhs in Bana had come to pick me up. Now I really felt on top of the world. I was hanging out with real Singhs!! We reached El Sobrante Gurdwara, and wow what a Gurdwara it is. Its on a mountain and visible from miles away, so enchantingly beautiful. I met many Sikhs who I befriended on the internet, and Vaheguru I don't know what to say! So much love I got, that I could have exploded. I met the same Singh who gave me the kirpans and was among my panj pyaare. I met some other really amazing Singhs as well.

Finally the night came. The night of Saturday, August 21, 2004. Location: El Sobrante Gurdwara in California. Daas was blessed with Amrit. I felt that sense of belonging, that feeling of having a master. This was the day my search was over. My soul sang Anand bhaya meri maaye, SatGuru mai paayaa!!

To all those who are born in Sikh families and have not taken Amrit yet, take it from me, it tastes better than any other taste ever created. I was born in a Hindu family, raised in an Islamic country, and studied in the Bible belt region of the U.S. It was Gurujee Himself who held my hand and never let me go astray.

A lot happened after I took Amrit. Life is never a bed of roses. I am a kaljugi moorakh and can slip. But my master was always there to remind me that He is there for me even if I don't know about it. My sincere request to you is give yourself upto such a Guru. I don't know what is in store for me tomorrow. But I hope I die a Sikh. May Gurujee save me and all of us from all kurehits, and even more from bajjar kurehits.

Sometimes people, out of love, call their beloveds "meri jaan", meaning "my life". It is the highest honor you can give someone you love. You address them as your own life. But just imagine the love Guru Gobind Singh Jee has for His Khalsa, when He says "Khalsa meri jaan ki jaan". He loves us much much more than His life!! I shed tears of happiness whenever I hear or recite these words. No one can love anyone as much as Gurujee loves His Sikhs. So why run after this fake world and its glory and riches when we have the lord of the universe as our true lover, true father, true mother, true friend!!

Now hold it! Don't start praising me, because I know very well what I am. All that you have read was written some 4 years ago. Today I am a slacker and trying to get back and firm on the path of Sikhi. I am lazy and want to improve, so if at all you want to respond, don't respond on here, just do an Ardas for me, that I may grow/develop/progress in my Sikhi, and always stay firm and devoted to my Sikhi. That would be the best response, and the one that I am looking forward to.

I just have 2 say Humkire Bhai - U speak very well & are a great writer & Speaker!!! We urge U 2 write a book titled "Humkire" with all your stories on there cause the way U write - it plays like a picture in my mind - especially the one where U said that GuruJi's force came upon U & U just got on stage & sang yo heart out. You are excellent with words, so expressive but most of all very motivating & inspiring. And I like it how U always comment on everything & speak from different angles like me, helping people 2 see from different perspective - like how U said about kids can grow up 2 be good or bad - hopefully good cause they are our future. With each generation, we get smarter & evolve more conciously, spiritually & technically. Okay then Humkire bhai - I suggest a movie also so U better get on it.

Really brother Humkire, I appreciate all your comments & I hear U = I did not wander into sikhism but was lead into it ( charni Aayi tera, charni Aayi tere, Apna naam deyo, apna naam deyo, Wahe Guru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru} & YES, all the sects of muslims put together CANNOT equal the power & MAJESTY of Guru Gobind Singh Ji - Waho Waho Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. My hurt is nothing near 2 the pain Guru Gobind Singh Ji went thru = just when we think we got it bad, there's always someone who's hit harder. And when I say debate, I don't mean arguing or putting people down verbally = I mean question & answers like this forum here = talking truth. Like Zakir Naik, fata fath debate karey but when a true questions thrown at him = can't anwer or won't = this is how the cheaters are caught & people can see the truth - so, it's a very good thing.

I see you LOve your religion & yes, I know so many muslims have converted 2 sikh - I met another priest @ El Sobrante Gurudwara & he told me that they have a headpriest who was muslim so I know. It's so funny, how U can say one thing & the meaning is taken so many different ways. Luckily, we can clarify that here but in many situations, it's not & trouble starts. We're lucky, we can sit around & talk because there's people fighting 2 stay alive or eat & I pray 4 them. Just like someone posted on here, saying = shut-up & stop talking smack sitting behind yo key boards, U really wanna do something then get yo butt up & go fight - really broadens my mind. Thanks again & we'll be waiting 4 yo book !

Yes Humkire Bhai, I heard it all the time in our family that Guru Nanak was muslim but a while ago my dad said that cause we talk a lot about religion now cause he see's me going 2 Gurudwara all the time. So, he said that Guru Nanak was muslim & I corrected him. I said Abba " where do U guys get off calling their leader muslim? How would U like it if they say that Mohammed saheb was sikh just because he spent time with sikh friends." I told him, don't say that if U don't have any proof & please don't assume - let somebody from their religion say that - we have NO Right 2 say that. I told him, GIani Thakur Singh said that the zum zum pani - the Holy water that we have at mecca gushed forth because Guru Nanak Dev Ji hit the spot with his cane & thats how it was found. He just looked at me shocked & I said there " how does that feel." I asked, " so that can be true cause Guru Nanak did visit mecca" & he was their friend. Sangat, I don't care who anybody is, I will speak up for the truth - the whole truth & nothing but the truth so HELP ME GOD !!!

Also reg Zakir Naik, we've just recently heard of him but we have never seen any of his debates or recording. I was visiting my dad just last month & my uncle came 2 see me & was telling us of Zakir Naik - that he's so big & that he has all his tapes & we should hear it. I don't care 2 but my dad said he will cause my uncle insisted that he was gonna let him borrow his tapes. Check this out - after my uncle left, my dad said " I don't care to listen to him cause he's not of my sect." I'm telling U - they fight amongst themselves & put each other down. It's the same in all religion, all these nitpicking just pushes us further apart - as long as we do the main part - which is try 2 make all our prayers & do simran & kirtan = I think we'll be just fine.

kiv kar aakhaa kiv saalaahee kio varanee kiv jaanaa ||

How can we speak of Him? How can we praise Him? How can we describe Him? How can we know Him?

naanak aakhan sabh ko aakhai eik dhoo eik siaanaa ||

O Nanak, everyone speaks of Him, each one wiser than the rest.

vaddaa saahib vaddee naaee keethaa jaa kaa hovai ||

Great is the Master, Great is His Name. Whatever happens is according to His Will.

naanak jae ko aapa jaanai agai gaeiaa n sohai ||21||

O Nanak, one who claims to know everything shall not be decorated in the world hereafter. ||

paathaalaa paathaal lakh aagaasaa aagaas ||

There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above.

ourrak ourrak bhaal thhakae vaedh kehan eik vaath ||

The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary

sehas at(h)aareh kehan kathaebaa asuloo eik dhhaath ||

The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe.

laekhaa hoe th likheeai laekhai hoe vinaas ||

If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it.

saalaahee saalaahi eaethee surath n paaeeaa ||

The praisers praise the Lord, but they do not obtain intuitive understanding

nadheeaa athai vaah pavehi samu(n)dh n jaaneeahi ||

the streams and rivers flowing into the ocean do not know its vastness.

samu(n)dh saah sulathaan girehaa saethee maal dhhan ||

Even kings and emperors, with mountains of property and oceans of wealth

keerree thul n hovanee jae this manahu n veesarehi ||23||

-these are not even equal to an ant, who does not forget God. ||23||

a(n)th n sifathee kehan n a(n)th ||

Endless are His Praises, endless are those who speak them.

WaheGuru WaheGuruWaheGuruWaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaaaaaaaaaaaaheGuruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Yes ,if you research on the Ahmaddiya sect in terms of their activities in the punjab and what they have said about Sikhism ,you will find they have a record of being hell-bent to convert sikhs into muslims,even claiming that GurNanak was sum sort of a muslim 'saint' and Sikhism is kinda extension of Islam. There are detailed threads on this if you research into a few sikh websites .

Anyway, on page 963 of SGGS there is a wonderful line which goes '' phirdeee phirdee Nanak jeeo hau phavee theeiee bohoth desavr pantha, ta hau sokh sukhalee sutee ja gur melh sajan meh ledha'' , i.e '' O (Guru) Nanak, rambling and roaming in many lands and religous paths, i had become crazy/confused. But since meeting Gurujee, i have found my True Friend, and now i sleep in peace and comfort''.

Hence my point was not just about sum religous conversion but how through Sikhism your search ends because Gurujee is all you need ,helping you put away every other baggage and travel light. Gurbani says ''tehndee bandish meh koe na ditha, tu Nanak man bhana, ghol ghumai tes mitr vechola, jeh milh kant pechana'' (pg 964) , i.e '' Like thee O Lord (or O Nanak) , i have seen not another. You alone are pleasing to my(or Nanak's) mind . I am a sacrifice unto such a Friend the Divine Intercessor, meeting whom i have recognised my spouse(God)''.

Thus as you get close to Gurujee your prayer becomes '' hbeh saak kuraveh ditheh ,toh pleh tehndeh lagee'' (I have realised/seen all other relationships as false ,and now i have attached myself to thy skirt of my Lord/Gurujee).

My simple advice is now that you have discovered Sikhism , just stick to it and just let go of all your past . That keeps things simple and helps you move forward in your life than trying to reconcile with your past. You wont be the first person on earth doing that anyway .Over the last 500 or more years since Guru Nanak , loads of Muslims have become Sikhs as Sikhism is a beautiful ,simple to follow , uncomplicated ,non violent ,super-man creating religion based on simple concepts of naam ,dhan and ishnan and to be blessed with Amrit as well as to have Shree Guru Granth Sahib the most authorative ,pristine , beautifully worded through song , as your Guru.

I run a business as you know and in it, sometimes i just have to stop everything from the past and start anew with a new simpler, easier to follow ,more beneficial,. more user friendly ,less bagge filled ,revolutionary ,radical ,more profitable concept or business strategy to survive . Sometimes

i have to destroy an old building to reconstruct a brand new one if i wanna avoid going in circles trying to reconcile this with that . Prophet Mohammad did what he needed to do,1,600 years ago to unify warring hostile arab races in ways for which academics still argue their justification. Likewise, leaders from various Muslim sects put together cannot equal the power and majesty of Guru Gobind Singh and you are lucky that on earth today we have the Living Voice of God manifestating through our Eternal Shree Guru Granth Sahib the Living Word of God , The Eternal Guidance and Lord of all .

Gurbani says in a straightforward way ''satgur aeo saran tuharee, mileh sukh naam har sobha chinta laeh hemari'' ,i.e O Satguru , i suurender and place myself in Your shelter. In return i receive peace ,happiness ,your power/naam/God's energy/nectar and all my worries are moved.

So everything in the past ,be brave to say bye bye to it and what awaits you is one big surprise Believe me, you wont be dissapointed . Read those books i recommended and you will realise that you have not wandered into Sikhism by mistake ,but this is the greatest loving and most powerful gift God gave you,out of pity, for all that pain an innocent ,pure hearted loving person like you had to go through in the midst of all your vulnerabilities. This is your time to shine, your moment has arrived . Before you is Shree Guru Granth Sahib willing to hold your hand and save you forever ,look back and all you see is religion and relationships waiting to doom you. This is indeed the magic moment in the lengthy journey of your soul.

And after writing all of this, im hungry now, so can you please email me some vegetable biryani rice, 2 pooris, tarka dall together with home made mango chutney ,not to forget some sewian pudding . hahaaaaaaaa -and oh --some home made khaju barfee. ( i think the bibiyaa on here need posting us starving veers some of your home made delights hahaaaa) .

Ji ha, So near yet so far, you're so Right !!! Guru Granth sahib ji mei jo bani hai = jo kalaam hai, yeh sirf GuruJi ka hai ki aur dharam ka hai ??? Islam ke Sheikh Farid Ji ka kalaam bhi hai. Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Guru Gobind Singh Ji had very close muslim friends - did either of them tell each other 2 change religion. I don't have 2 show or prove myself 2 no one - just 2 God. If he wants me to convert then YES, I definitely will but right now, I'm GOOD !!! So near yet so far, you're getting HOT so that means you're near & Right on track cause U saw my point of view - thank U !!! And by the way, I'm Gods woman.

Ant na siftee, kahai na Ant - Ant na karnai , bin na Ant

Ant na vikhan - soon na Ant, Ant na jaape - kya mun Ant

Ant na jaape - kita Akaar, Ant na jaape paravar

Ant kaaran kete - Bil lahi takey Ant, takey Ant na pai jai

Eho Ant na janey koi - bahuta kahiay bahuta hoi

sorry i'm gonna butt in here briefly, and then at length in the future

i think naaz's thinking is brilliant, it's all good. I wouldn't be trying to convert him, that up to you naaz, just see what happens. but the main thing is that you seem to be a man of god/a man in search of god.

and that's the main thing, the bhagat's of different backgrounds who recognised the greatness, one-ness, and inclussivity of god were included in guru granth sahib ji.

I will say however that those views are in guru granth sahib ji. But i'm not sure how many other religions preach such unity and equality - will expand later.

but you have discovered a path, and however you want to follow it is up to you, but at least you have some realisation unlike many of us who are born into this path, with these ideals and still fail to prosper.

Whoa Humkire Bhai, Okay, so I hear that they are pushing 2 convert people but I have not noticed it that bad in our group 2 tell U the truth. It MUST be different in those countries - I don't know what else 2 say but YES, I have 2 do some research now - don't really care to cause I know we're not like that but believe me, I HEAR U !!! LIke I said, the worst I have noticed is that when someone comes 2 our mosque - they push them with literature & about coming 2 masjid all the time. Thats what I liked about sikhism - nobody ever came up 2 me or try 2 push me into the religion. U can convert as many people U want but if it's not from their heart - what good is that - who they trying to show or prove - just humans - like ants 2 me & another number. GOD see's all & he's sab se bada - Oocha se Oocha Bhagvant !!! WaheGuru naam Jahaaj hai, charai so utre paar, jo sharda kar semvde Guru par utaran haar

krq iPry bn ByK mohn rhq inrwr ]1] rhwau ]

karath firae ban bhaekh mohan rehath niraar ||1|| rehaao ||

Some wander around the forests, wearing religious robes, but the Fascinating Lord remains distant from them. ||1||Pause||

kQn sunwvn gIq nIky gwvn mn mih Drqy gwr ]1]

kathhan sunaavan geeth neekae gaavan man mehi dhharathae gaar ||1||

They talk, preach, and sing their lovely songs, but within their minds, the filth of their sins remains. ||1||

Aiq suMdr bhu cqur isAwny ibidAw rsnw cwr ]2]

ath su(n)dhar bahu chathur siaanae bidhiaa rasanaa chaar ||2||

They may be very beautiful, extremely clever, wise and educated, and they may speak very sweetly. ||2||

mwn moh myr qyr ibbrijq eyhu mwrgu KMfy Dwr ]3]

maan moh maer thaer bibarajith eaehu maarag kha(n)ddae dhhaar ||3||

To forsake pride, emotional attachment, and the sense of 'mine and yours', is the path of the double-edged sword. ||3||

khu nwnk iqin Bvjlu qrIAly pRB ikrpw sMq sMgwr ]4]1]31]

kahu naanak thin bhavajal thareealae prabh kirapaa sa(n)th sa(n)gaar ||4||1||31||

Says Nanak, they alone swim across the terrifying world-ocean, who, by God's Grace, join the Society of the Saints. ||4||1||31||

And yes, I've heard them say that Guru Nanak was muslim & I don't believe that. Just because he hung out with muslims friends & maybe wore some clothes that they gave him - they get off saying that - I don't believe it cause he's your leader & I'm just like him - I hang out with priests & go 2 Gurudwara all the time dosen't give people the right 2 say I'm Sikh. I know exactly how people manipulate things & I can see right thru it. They're just trying 2 use that as artillary 2 coerce girls into converting. Thats not TRUE religion = they're just playing the numbers game = 2 show, Oh, we have the most followers so our religion is true. WRONG, they might have a big army & ours small but they only have soldiers - we got warriors & gladiators on our team so we WILL win !!! It's the not the quantity - the quality that matters, not throwing yo weight around but technique, skills. People who don't associate with other race or religion are scared of the truth - I'm NOT, I can hang out with all race & religion & will not leave the dharam that GOD bore me in cause obviously it was 4 a reason. But I hear U Humkire - if I get carried away & feel I need 2 convert, I surely will. This is what Hari uncle said the last time I talked 2 him & thats why I want 2 talk to him more but like I said, it's long distance & I never called him before so he's finding it rather uncomfortable that I'm questioning him. He said that we would have 2 sit down & talk about this & thats gonna be hard cause he's in NewZealand. But your religion is very Gawjis - bahut sundar that I have fallen in Love with the Love of my LIFE - me Lord God WaheGuru & he's gonna take care of me from now on !!! Whatever he says " I Do". There, marriage perfomed & honeymoon's on the way. This is the song 2 our 1st dance - Mera pyaar bhi tu hai, yeh bahaar bhi tu hai, tu hi nazron mei jaaney tamannaaaa, tu hi Nazaaron mein, Hazaaron mein, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Tu hi tuhi tuhi tuhi - WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Wahe Guru Wahe Guru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Wahe Guruuuuuuuuuuuuu

Sorry Humkire bhai - I would love 2 invite U over 4 dinner but I'm off 2 honeymoon - U missed the wedding. I'll tell WaheGuru 2 shower U with heavenly sweets instead...I'm sure you'll savor that much much more.

Yes ,if you research on the Ahmaddiya sect in terms of their activities in the punjab and what they have said about Sikhism ,you will find they have a record of being hell-bent to convert sikhs into muslims,even claiming that GurNanak was sum sort of a muslim 'saint' and Sikhism is kinda extension of Islam. There are detailed threads on this if you research into a few sikh websites .

Anyway, on page 963 of SGGS there is a wonderful line which goes '' phirdeee phirdee Nanak jeeo hau phavee theeiee bohoth desavr pantha, ta hau sokh sukhalee sutee ja gur melh sajan meh ledha'' , i.e '' O (Guru) Nanak, rambling and roaming in many lands and religous paths, i had become crazy/confused. But since meeting Gurujee, i have found my True Friend, and now i sleep in peace and comfort''.

Hence my point was not just about sum religous conversion but how through Sikhism your search ends because Gurujee is all you need ,helping you put away every other baggage and travel light. Gurbani says ''tehndee bandish meh koe na ditha, tu Nanak man bhana, ghol ghumai tes mitr vechola, jeh milh kant pechana'' (pg 964) , i.e '' Like thee O Lord (or O Nanak) , i have seen not another. You alone are pleasing to my(or Nanak's) mind . I am a sacrifice unto such a Friend the Divine Intercessor, meeting whom i have recognised my spouse(God)''.

Thus as you get close to Gurujee your prayer becomes '' hbeh saak kuraveh ditheh ,toh pleh tehndeh lagee'' (I have realised/seen all other relationships as false ,and now i have attached myself to thy skirt of my Lord/Gurujee).

My simple advice is now that you have discovered Sikhism , just stick to it and just let go of all your past . That keeps things simple and helps you move forward in your life than trying to reconcile with your past. You wont be the first person on earth doing that anyway .Over the last 500 or more years since Guru Nanak , loads of Muslims have become Sikhs as Sikhism is a beautiful ,simple to follow , uncomplicated ,non violent ,super-man creating religion based on simple concepts of naam ,dhan and ishnan and to be blessed with Amrit as well as to have Shree Guru Granth Sahib the most authorative ,pristine , beautifully worded through song , as your Guru.

I run a business as you know and in it, sometimes i just have to stop everything from the past and start anew with a new simpler, easier to follow ,more beneficial,. more user friendly ,less bagge filled ,revolutionary ,radical ,more profitable concept or business strategy to survive . Sometimes

i have to destroy an old building to reconstruct a brand new one if i wanna avoid going in circles trying to reconcile this with that . Prophet Mohammad did what he needed to do,1,600 years ago to unify warring hostile arab races in ways for which academics still argue their justification. Likewise, leaders from various Muslim sects put together cannot equal the power and majesty of Guru Gobind Singh and you are lucky that on earth today we have the Living Voice of God manifestating through our Eternal Shree Guru Granth Sahib the Living Word of God , The Eternal Guidance and Lord of all .

Gurbani says in a straightforward way ''satgur aeo saran tuharee, mileh sukh naam har sobha chinta laeh hemari'' ,i.e O Satguru , i suurender and place myself in Your shelter. In return i receive peace ,happiness ,your power/naam/God's energy/nectar and all my worries are moved.

So everything in the past ,be brave to say bye bye to it and what awaits you is one big surprise Believe me, you wont be dissapointed . Read those books i recommended and you will realise that you have not wandered into Sikhism by mistake ,but this is the greatest loving and most powerful gift God gave you,out of pity, for all that pain an innocent ,pure hearted loving person like you had to go through in the midst of all your vulnerabilities. This is your time to shine, your moment has arrived . Before you is Shree Guru Granth Sahib willing to hold your hand and save you forever ,look back and all you see is religion and relationships waiting to doom you. This is indeed the magic moment in the lengthy journey of your soul.

And after writing all of this, im hungry now, so can you please email me some vegetable biryani rice, 2 pooris, tarka dall together with home made mango chutney ,not to forget some sewian pudding . hahaaaaaaaa -and oh --some home made khaju barfee. ( i think the bibiyaa on here need posting us starving veers some of your home made delights hahaaaa) .

Humkire bhai, U said inside that little kids body is a soul from many previous births right, & I read the topic on this forum where someone is worried why so many punjabi girls are converting 2 muslim - I won't say Islam if the converting is decieving & corrupt. U know muslims DO NOT believe in Re-incarnation but sikhs do & I do. I think the muslim men who are decieving these girls are reborn in their body & the punjabi girls who are running away with them are the muslim men from Orangeheads time. SO, God is teaching them whats it like to be in the others shoes - they did it thru hatred & this time GOD is teaching them thru LOVE !!! PAYBACK time - what goes around comes around !!! They did it thru force & this time they're getting hit back thru the heart so they can feel the pain - U keep bleeding, keep keep bleeding.

See, I was born in Fiji & I think the reason why GOD bore me in that country is 2 teach me about LOVE = it knows no boundaries or discrimination against race, color, sex or religion. Like I said, my aunt is married 2 Hari Singh & nobody forced him & he loves Islam & is more devout than any of us in the family. My uncle is married to Daya Karan & she converted to Islam & is very devout. Maybe @ first she married just to do the nikah cause in Islam, U can't do the ceremonial unless both parties are muslim but she loves the religion from their heart. She's half hindu & half punjabi & her dad was sikh & he kicked her out of the family cause she married a muslim & she was really torn that she could not see her family again. He told her that if she came near any of his family - he would kill her & never let her come back. I think thats love, she just fell in love & was forced which road 2 take = ( milti hai zindagi mein mohabbat kabhi kabhi, laati hai is morr pe karamat kabhi kabhi ) Another one of my aunt is white but she never converted & both her & my uncle are very happy. I'll give U a good example = I have twin brothers. One was in love with a native-american girl & they dated for about 7 yrs cause my mom did not want her at all marrying my brother & neither did her family. Look, another set of indian hatin on each other, lol. When they decided 2 marry against both families, there was nothing 2 do but 2 give them Blessings & every one saw the goodness of their heart & they were so GOOD & Happy together.

NOW, the other twin married a muslim indian girl & my mom was so proud & happy with joy CAUSE she's muslim/hindustani but as soon as she stepped foot in the house, trouble started & she just tore the family apart. SO, whats our lesson from this ?????? My brother who married the native-american girl died soon after marriage - he was 30 yrs old & died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the apartment. This brought my mom & sister-in-law even closer & my mom died 1 yr right to the date after my brother died cause she could not live without him cause he was an angel. She felt so guilty he had such a short life & that she had taken some of his happiness away & wasted his time from stopping him 2 marry the love of his life. He was so good, agreed to everyone & never fought with anyone & everyone says he was a special being. But wait a minute, my elder brother is married 2 indian muslim girl & they're very happy. My marriage was arranged with muslim/indian from our community but he's rotten.

I don't know but everyone's mixing & marrying into another so that we can learn that LOVE is the most important thing - race, religon, sex or color dosen't matter = its the person & the heart that matters. Religion divides people, spirituality brings all together. How can U be best friends with one of another race or religion & then go home or 2 the temple & talk against them. We have 2 live in the present, whats happening today & move forward. I know it's hard but the past does hold us back. Like in ours, having 5 wives at a time is okay - that was okay back then cause most men died in fighting & so lots of women & children were left behind so they said it was okay 2 marry 5 as long as U treat them right & provide 4 them. But nobody does that now - if fact, the marriages are breaking apart because of fooling around. I only know of 2 men in Fiji & they were my grandfathers age who had 2 wives but people degraded them so badly cause of that. No women will put up with that in this day & age - I think we have 2 kind of evolve with time & change some of the rules. But I know Sikhi is a very tight community & the fight that the GuruJi's put up against the zulum Orangehead did - I totally understand why they stay in their own kaum & have to follow the maryada. I second it - its just hard when you're living in a modernized country like America. It's hard 4 me to cover up = I don't except 4 when I'm @ temple or masjid because of the line of work I do but I think I would do it in saudi because all muslim women do. But its changing, people are standing up 4 religion & people are realizing - actually, people here in America will flock 2 a meditation or yoga class led by someone who looks like a yogi then someone who has no beard. Just like the punjabi boys who are embarassed to grow beard or wear dastaar - so many are taking Amrit now & proud of it cause they know about khalsa.

Please forgive me if I said anything wrong & go ahead & correct me but like I said, my thinking is very open .

I pray 4 WORLD PEACE, sincerely, Naaz

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You asked me if kids are the neatest things . well they can look innocent ,lovable and neat but hold your fire, because inside that baby's body is a soul from many many previous births carrying with it karmas good and bad from all these previous lifetimes. All you can do is to offer all your parental nurture, support,protection and love but without getting attached . As a child grows up ,the complex web of that soul's past karma, God's Will for that soul , and that soul's efforts to escape, or get further trapped in the matrix, all interplay in ways beyond your comprehension. You can never know if your innocent looking child is slowly going to unfold to become a saint ,or a sinner , or a prostitute , or a pope ,a puuper or paymaster ,a healthy or ill ridden human being . All you can do is to pray to Waheguru for the 'bhela' or good of that soul,. and provide the best spiritual,religous,physical ,emotional .educational etc for your child and leave the rest to God. This can be painful to swallow but is the truth.

Do keep going to Gurudwara because Gurujee(SHREE GURU GRANTH SAHIB) is in attendance there,bestowing Their blessings daily to all who come in Their presence ,even though you know God's presence is within ,as its Gurujee that will grant you more and more access to That which is within. All of SGGS encourages to actively seek satsangat, to be in sangat with other Sikhs as in gurudwara. And as i said before you have to be where God wants you now in terms of religion ,faith ,work ,family ,etc ,not where u were before . What you clung on to in the past has failed and driven you to what's present. Thats why you were made to meet the sikh from fiji ,gyani thakur singh,gurudwaras ,sikhs from this site etc etc so its good to make a clean break from your past and enjoy wots now in your life that is being bestowed to you ,i.e Sikhi and embrace it, no matter what the sacrifice. During the times of the Gurus ,countless Hindus and Muslims became Sikhs and never ever regretted or turned back but infact had to sacrifice their lifes for Sikhism .

Do try to get hold of a book called '' The Spirit Born People ' by Puran Singh. It summarises the beauty of being a Sikh in an honest but inspiring way. I was born in a very very staunch Muslim country where i had a choice if i wanted to stay a sikh or convert to Islam . I even studied Islam to a very very 'high' theological level under Islamic scholars ,even went through the Quran verse by verse starting from sura al fatiha to sura al baqarah and on ,the detailed life of Prophet Muhammad , the history of Islam, hadith ,sunna , etc etc . Had i converted i would have been given big monetary rewards ,big promotions in goverment, 4 wifes, etc etc .But i chose to stick to Sikhism and be baptised ,even though it meant i would be heavily discriminated against . Thats because there is nothing more beautiful in the whole universe than Sikhism.

As you said your search is off because now you have found the True Guru to guide you in your life i.e SHREE GURU GRANTH SAHIB . Gurbani says ''anand bheya meri mai ,satgur me paeah'',i.e i am in joy now as i have found the Satguru ,i.e the Eternally True Guru . As you journey on ,may Gurujee bless you to receive Amrit from Gurujee and become a Khalsa .