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Hello Ji, Thank U 4 uploading this here = it's my favorite & one of the members asked me 2 put this simran up on this site here cause I was bragging about how peaceful & beautiful it is. Gyanni Thakur Singh gave it 2 me & I've been playing it 24/7 ever since = like 3 yrs ago. Could U brother please post it 4 me on the kirtan area & just mention that it's Naaz's favorite cause all know that I'm muslim & wanted 2 know what I'm so in love with & it's thru Thakur bhaiyya & this simran that I am so close 2 WaheGuru ! It de stress's U & relaxes U so much. My son is a teenager & he's always in the car with me but will listen quietly 2 it cause he feel it too. Thank U so much 4 putting this simran up = GOD BLESS U ! There's also the same version with a BibiJi = her voice is so beautiful but even better when both the men & women sing together = thats my favorite part = where both of them sing WaheGuru 2gether = Soooo Loving ! Brother, do U know who sings this cause I never got a chance 2 ask Thakur bhaiyya & can anyone tell me which instruments are used in this tape. I loved the part where it sounds like the guitar that I got it edited specially 4 me = I like the high note parts. Don't know anything about music or instruments so exscuse me if I'm off but I know music & this is the best simran I've ever heard. I have another one by joginger singh Rhia & it starts off with " meeth bolna ji, meeth bolna na, har sajan swami mora." I'm hooked to that also & listen 2 it just as much as this one = both is playing in car everytime I'm driving. Thank U Soooo much again.

Hello everyone, U are right, they are pig headed when it comes admitting the mistakes of Orangzeb or anyone else from that clan cause they don't know about it. It's not worth arguing with them cause I'm Islamic, not muslim cause I think they're the ones doing Jihaad or killing people in the name of GOD. I believe the brother who said that the king had the Quran burned all the originals & had them rewritten = that makes sense cause we n't 4 a secdoond believe in harming anyone nor taught that = me & my family that is. Their like that in our family though = just say that it was not our ancestors & don't want 2 hear the facts. Since I've been going 2 the Gurdwara, I've learned a lot & throw the truth in their face. The don't like it but too bad = it's the truth. They don't even want 2 read about it & just argue. I think Islam came 1st = from Abraham & then muslim religion came later = thats where all the killers like Orangzeb or from his lineage started cause I'm tellin U brothers, we don't believe in fighting or killin over religion. So, actually there's 2 kinds of them & we're from Fiji so most don't have no knowledge of the genocide. We're from Fiji & we've never been in any kind of war or fights = thank GOD that we didn't experience that but feel really bad about the ones who went thru it . Our grandparents were from Fiji also & only their parents know of India. All our elders have past away so I can't even question them. Just wanted 2 tell U the truth from my side cause I don't believe in turning your face the other way cause U don't want 2 look bad = they should admit their religions mistakes & say sorry instead of just denying it. Pisses me off ! Before I would had said same, don't waste yo time of those ignorant = ignoring the facts but if U can get 2 his intellect with facts & the very good advice of the brothers here without fighting = HEY, let him know ! And the ones who are really ignorant = save yo breath & don't waste it on those loosers. I love sikhi religion = it's Soooo spiritual compared to ours = I find it's religious but then there were the mystics who were spiritual like Rabia, bullah shah & Rumi. Just had 2 put my 2 sense in here cause I know how it is !

The part where U say, Bhagti is nothing but a love story between individual soul and infinite divine power - all pervading - Param Atma! Antar mun mei jyoti jagaalo = Pramatma ko pehchano & all the darkness & vices will automatically dissolve. U say U don't see it in Gurdwaras anymore = Brother, it's the same in every church, temple or masjid. The little things that they nit & pick about = drives people away. LOVE what U said, just follow GODLY code of conduct = meditate, pray, yoga means 2 REMEMBER him 24/7, in everything we do, such as eating, working, sleeping & waking up & automatically he will PURIFY us. It is this simple = in this day & age it's very hard 2 be religious, spirituality works much better but I know there's certain peoply who need 2 obey the laws or else they get devilish so then being religious is good 4 them. I have a friend who says she has 2 go 2 church or else she gets vicious = that the services at her church really help her 2 be good. I went 2 a masjid in Texas cause I was visiting my brother & went 2 pray there. One of the lead ladies came up 2 me & gave me a big shawl 2 cover up with when praying cause she said my hands & some of my hair was showing = keep in mind that it was summer & burnin up in Texas. YES, I was very well covered up cause I've been going 2 prayers all my life & did nothing out of the ordinary. SO, I just said whatever & used her shawl 2 pray with I didn't want any conflicts but she did tick me off. After prayer, I noticed other ladies there from bangladesh who dressed like me so I couldn't make sense of that lady cause I don't go 2 that masjid. DO U think I went back there = NO. Not that she deterred me but I don't need no masjid or Qazi 2 be close 2 GOD = my body is my temple & I can POWER UP whenever I want = just meditate & simr & do my prayers & I'm connected 2 him. I just went 2 masjid 2 satisfy my brother but 2 some other, that lady will push them away. U think she is gonna get GODS blessing for deterring them from his house of worship = hell NO !! This is wat I've been noticing everywhere & I go 2 Gurdwara a lot also so I here wat U saying brother ! Who do U think GOD is gonna reward, # 1 or #2 ???? 1. GOD, I follow your code of conduct exactly, did my daily prayers, am a sikhi or muslim = dressed accordingly, went 2 temple all the time & didn't sin but I did hurt a lot of souls by putting them down 4 not being like me. 2. GOD, I wasn't a strict sikhi or muslim, didn't make all my prayers, didn't dress religiously according 2 my religion but I never hurt anyone & LOVED all no matter what race, religon or color. Thank U servant of sat , I second what U say = Love 4 all, Hatred 4 none. We're all born & brought up in different religions & our ancestors down 2 our parents have been following that religion so we HONOR it & follow it even though sometimes we're attracted or connected 2 another. Dosen't make the other wrong = all goes 2 the same place = ONE GOD = ONE LOVE !!! Meeth bolna jee, meeth bolna, har sajan Swami mera = WaheGuru, WaheGuru, WaheGuroooooooo ! I am from Islamic faith but LOVE WaheGuru so what 2 do = LOVE him, that's all & not fight with one another & respect each others religion but mostly, get along. Why are we different colors, culture or religions = GOD made us that way 2 teach us that we're different but the same = human. I'm only human, born 2 make mistakes. Religion divides people = spirituality brings us together ! We have good virtues & then there's the bad ones but our main goal is 2 FIGHT the five vices = Lust, Anger, Greed, Ego & attachments so that it dosent' make us vicious. Fight the fight vices & win the war against maya & Fateh = VICTORY , Khalsa!!!!! WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki fateh = be PURE, become as pure as poss & we shall enter the land of Pure, Khalsa = Paradise. We are all souls & GOD is the supreme soul = point of light & we have 2 leave this body 2 go to the soul world. Soul conciousness is the way 2 go, not body conciousness = Joth se joth jagaatey chalo, PREM ki ganga bahaatey chalo, prem ki ganga bahaatey chalo. All religions believe in GOD as light, just Remember him, REMEMBER him 24/7 & he will PURIFY us & transform ourselves with DIVINE virtues, the ultimate test is 2 become bodiless, total detachment = soul concious. When we are body concious, then we have attachments = if we stay soul concious , all the attachments will automatically break like old leaves falling from the tree. Simro simr, simr sukh pavo = joh simre, joh simre, woh sukh pavey . Pramatma Ko Pehchano cause a TRUE LOVER constantly thinks of their Beloved = stay pure in the pilgrimage of Remembrance of WaheGuru & become Elevated = beat the drums of Victory , Fateh ! May we constantly remain Elevated & VICTORIOUS by using the soul concious method to transform our thoughts, words & actions & inspire others too !

My exact thoughts brother, U wrote my exact thoughts as I was reading the highlighted blue print about the mosque being named after Syed stupid = LOOK how it's destroyed time & time again & it WILL be destroyed time & time again. I cannot believe how they would name a mosque after a monster like that !!!

My understanding of what he is saying is that the talebans are acting and looking like Sikh sardars, he is critizing the talebans by using the example of syed ahmed guy who was a islamo-facist jihadi against Sikh rule back in the 18th century. Syed Ahmed was a tekfiri waahabi sunni islamo-facist who did not like the British or Sikhs basically any non-muslim. He wanted to destory Sikh rule so launched a jihad after many attacks on Sikhs and their pasthun allies he was finally slaughtered in the battlefield by the Khalsa army in balakot, now in pakistan. Here some info i found on this syed ahmed guy. http://en.wikipedia....d_Ahmad_Shaheed www.murree.com/balakot.html+balakot+ahmed&cd=8&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk The Sikhs invaded Mansehra in the year 1818 after stiff resistance from its inhabitants. As the Mansehra region fell under Sikh control, it was annexed to Punjab. Syed Ahmad Shaheed and Shah Ismail Shaheed with the help of the Mujahadeen, including the Swatis of Balakot and Syeds of Kaghan, led many revolts and attacks against the Sikhs. At last on 6th May 1831 during a fierce battle Syed Ahmad Shaheed and Shah Ismail Shaheed along with hundreds of their followers were killed. The central mosque of Balakot is named after Syed Ahmed Shaheed. Qazi Khalil Ahmed District Khateeb of District Mansehra,is the present Khateeb of Central Syed Ahmed Shaheed Mosque Balakot. The mosque is destroyed second time by the natural disaster, as it was just reconstructed again after being destroyed by a 1992 flood in Balakot. Clearly a sign from Waheguru Ji, that time after time the masjid bearing this guys name will be torn down and destoryed. 80,000 muslims in kashmir were wiped out in the earthquake in kashmir back in 2005.

WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh, Azaad Ji, you really do write such moving, beautiful & inspirational stories - please keep posting more cause we really do ENJOY them. Thank U very much !!!

Wahe Guru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh Mehtaab Singh Ji, Thank U so much for this post of yours - this is exactly what I needed = a good slap - this is exactly what my hukumama was & I'm still worrying. This is exactly what I was told - to leave everything & all worries up 2 WaheGuru & just tun mun se WaheGuru Ji ke naam gao - bus,nothing else is important & nothing else matters - 2 just concentrate on WaheGuru & have 100% faith in him & he will take care of me. Thank U Mehtaab Ji for your message today - I asked & so I received AGAIN - LORD Help me - please don't let me make this mistake again cause I will deserve a good beating next time ! Exactly what U just said Mehtaab bhai, GOD BLESS you, thank you !!! eyko jip eyko swlwih ] eaeko jap eaeko saalaahi || Meditate on the One, and worship the One. eyku ismir eyko mn Awih ] eaek simar eaeko man aahi || Remember the One, and yearn for the One in your mind. eyks ky gun gwau Anµq ] eaekas kae gun gaao ana(n)th || Sing the endless Glorious Praises of the One. min qin jwip eyk BgvMq ] man than jaap eaek bhagava(n)th || With mind and body, meditate on the One Lord God. eyko eyku eyku hir Awip ] eaeko eaek eaek har aap || The One Lord Himself is the One and Only.

WaheGuru Ji ka Khalsa, WaheGuru Ji ki Fateh, Thank U so much 4 uploading Sant Babaji's katha but I second it also, could U please upload it on video form - the audio's I seem 2 understand & keeps me interested much longer. Also one more request please - could someone translate this in english - since it's such a mysterious topic - we would be very grateful . Thank U again & can someone please tell me of sites where I could see Sant Baba Hari Singh's video's besides Gurmatveechar - I've seen all of his videos there but I don't understand too much punjabi so it's hard 4 me. Thank U so much & this website is very inspiring & uplifting - wonderful posts from everyone - keep up the Good work. Thank you, Naaz

mwJ mhlw 5 ] maajh mehalaa 5 || Maajh, Fifth Mehla: kihAw krxw idqw lYxw ] kehiaa karanaa dhithaa lainaa || As You command, I obey; as You give, I receive. grIbw AnwQw qyrw mwxw ] gareebaa anaathhaa thaeraa maanaa || You are the Pride of the meek and the poor. sB ikCu qUMhY qUMhY myry ipAwry qyrI kudriq kau bil jweI jIau ]1] sabh kishh thoo(n)hai thoo(n)hai maerae piaarae thaeree kudharath ko bal jaaee jeeo ||1|| You are everything; You are my Beloved. I am a sacrifice to Your Creative Power. ||1|| BwxY auJV BwxY rwhw ] bhaanai oujharr bhaanai raahaa || By Your Will, we wander in the wilderness; by Your Will, we find the path. BwxY hir gux gurmuiK gwvwhw ] bhaanai har gun guramukh gaavaahaa || By Your Will, we become Gurmukh and sing the Glorious Praises of the Lord. BwxY Brim BvY bhu jUnI sB ikCu iqsY rjweI jIau ]2] bhaanai bharam bhavai bahu joonee sabh kishh thisai rajaaee jeeo ||2|| By Your Will, we wander in doubt through countless lifetimes. Everything happens by Your Will. ||2|| nw ko mUrKu nw ko isAwxw ] naa ko moorakh naa ko siaanaa || No one is foolish, and no one is clever. vrqY sB ikCu qyrw Bwxw ] varathai sabh kishh thaeraa bhaanaa || Your Will determines everything; Agm Agocr byAMq AQwhw qyrI kImiq khxu n jweI jIau ]3] agam agochar baea(n)th athhaahaa thaeree keemath kehan n jaaee jeeo ||3|| You are Inaccessible, Incomprehensible, Infinite and Unfathomable. Your Value cannot be expressed. ||3|| Kwku sMqn kI dyhu ipAwry ] khaak sa(n)than kee dhaehu piaarae || Please bless me with the dust of the Saints, O my Beloved. Awie pieAw hir qyrY duAwrY ] aae paeiaa har thaerai dhuaarai || I have come and fallen at Your Door, O Lord. drsnu pyKq mnu AwGwvY nwnk imlxu suBweI jIau ]4]7]14] dharasan paekhath man aaghaavai naanak milan subhaaee jeeo ||4||7||14|| Gazing upon the Blessed Vision of His Darshan, my mind is fulfilled. O Nanak, with natural ease, I merge into Him. ||4||7||14|| Charni Aayi tera charni aayi tera - apna naam deyo apna naam deyo - WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Waheguru This translation is an updated version.

This Shabad is by Bhai Gurdaas Ji in Vaars Bhai Gurdaas on Pannaa 13 gurmuiK suK Plu pRym rsu Aibgiq giq BweI] guramukh sukh fal praem ras abigath gath bhaaee|| Divine is the taste of the joy of Love, which is the pleasure fruit of the Gurmukhs. pwrwvwru Apwru hY ko Awie n jweI] paaraavaar apaar hai ko aae n jaaee|| It’s this shore and the yonder one are beyond limits none can reach it. Awid AMiq prjMq nwih prmwid vfweI] aadh a(n)th paraja(n)th naahi paramaadh vaddaaee|| Its beginning and end are unfathomable and its grandeur is most eminent. hwQ n pwie AQwh dI Asgwh smweI] haathh n paae athhaah dhee asagaah samaaee|| It is so much that many of the oceans immerse in it yet its depth remains unknown. iprm ipAwly bUMd iek ikin kImiq pweI] piram piaalae boo(n)dh eik kin keemath paaee|| Who could evaluate even one drop of such a cup of Love. Agmhu Agm AgwiD boD gur AlKu lKweI ]12] agamahu agam agaadhh bodhh gur alakh lakhaaee ||12|| It is inaccessible and its knowledge is unfathomable, but the Guru can make one realise this imperceptible cup of Love.(12)

Aaha So Near, yes, thats one one with the lady singing together @ the end of the simran right - very beautiful voice. I don't know who these singers are but Giani Thakur Singh gave me the C.D. I asked him & he said he didn't know either. I don't know how 2 post songs or videos on computer or this site but I'll try when my nephew gets back in town, he's really good with computer. There's a simran of her just singing this alone also - I loved it so much that I had someone edit it 4 me cause I love the guitar part & can't get enough of it. Where or how did U hear it SoNear ?? I had copies of it made @ El Sobrante Gurudwara 2 give people - so they can get hooked 2 simran. LOVE IT, just LOVE It & will always be my favorite. I remember THak Bahiyya gave it 2 me & said, U will like this, it's got some western beat 2 it & cause he knows I like music. I tell ya - he can read me like a book cause I've been listening 2 it for 3 yrs now - thats all that plays in my car - I feel like it's dua - makes me feel so safe that I don't even feel like saying my prayer before hitting the road. I'll try my all 2 post it up here 4 U & everyone SoNear , Fateh, Naaz

Hello Metab Singh, I'm so glad I found your post - I'm Naaz & I'm from EL Sobrante Gurudwara - I'm so happy I'm conversing with someone from our Gurudwara. I left there last year but have been going there only 3 yrs now. I was just up there end of June & was lucky enough 2 catch SantBaba Hari Singh - did U come 2 any of this katha's this June? When was the last time U were up there? The head priest was bhai Kuldeep Singh & he's so religious & very good but he moved to Sacramento Gurudwara & now Makhan Singh is the presiding priest.I always prayed 4 Makhan Bhaiyya 2 be the head priest there cause woh aetna bandagi karey ki I can't tell you. U will LOVE Makhan Bhaiyya - he is so deeply devoted to WaheGuru - he's so HOLY & his eyes are always closed cause he's so deep in meditation - even when he does kirtan. He was the asst priest & now he's the head priest. Avtaar bhaiyya is the head ragi there - Man can he sing - he makes me cry when he sings WaheGuru simran & Jaggu bhaiyya plays the tabla Soooooooo good. Everyone in that Gurudwara belong there & are so true. Metab Singh, El Sobrante is so beautiful, High up on the Hill & waha ke hawa kuch aur hai - definitley U can feel DIVINE Energy up there. I can sit there 4 hrs alone & sometimes I'd go there twice a day, morn & night - it's so peaceful & YES, the view is very relaxing. U will love the evening prayer - Makhan bhaiyya's dua is so touching cause he does it from the heart & all the sevadars get together every night for the Shakara. I've been 2 another Gurudwara where the priest didn't even come 4 closing prayer & they just considered it a job & only one sevadar would be there doing the shakara - so I missed El Sobrante even more & really appreciate it . It's such a Big & Neat Gurudwara - there's always Ragi's or priests visting there - very special Gurudwara. I've been 2 Fremont Gurudwara, Union City, Hayward, Stockton, Tracy but LOVE my Gurudwara the most. Oh I'm sure the ones in India are super but I'm happy with El Sobrante. I also Love Stockton Gurudwara cause it was the 1st Gurudwara in Cali so it means a lot 2 me. My cousin lives there so whenever we visit her, I pop in 2 Stockton Gurudwara. Maybe we've seen each other - too bad I get 2 know U & I'm not there anymore. I know just about all the regulars there now by face - I haven't really caught their names but I know all the sevadars. Well, hopefully you're up there all the time & soaking up the Energy cause we know there's definitely DIVINE Energy up there. If I didn't have a house up there, I would live @ Gurudwara. Okay, hope 2 hear some good news from U & hopefully U can keep me updated on my Gurudwara.

I just have 2 say Humkire Bhai - U speak very well & are a great writer & Speaker!!! We urge U 2 write a book titled "Humkire" with all your stories on there cause the way U write - it plays like a picture in my mind - especially the one where U said that GuruJi's force came upon U & U just got on stage & sang yo heart out. You are excellent with words, so expressive but most of all very motivating & inspiring. And I like it how U always comment on everything & speak from different angles like me, helping people 2 see from different perspective - like how U said about kids can grow up 2 be good or bad - hopefully good cause they are our future. With each generation, we get smarter & evolve more conciously, spiritually & technically. Okay then Humkire bhai - I suggest a movie also so U better get on it. Really brother Humkire, I appreciate all your comments & I hear U = I did not wander into sikhism but was lead into it ( charni Aayi tera, charni Aayi tere, Apna naam deyo, apna naam deyo, Wahe Guru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru} & YES, all the sects of muslims put together CANNOT equal the power & MAJESTY of Guru Gobind Singh Ji - Waho Waho Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj. My hurt is nothing near 2 the pain Guru Gobind Singh Ji went thru = just when we think we got it bad, there's always someone who's hit harder. And when I say debate, I don't mean arguing or putting people down verbally = I mean question & answers like this forum here = talking truth. Like Zakir Naik, fata fath debate karey but when a true questions thrown at him = can't anwer or won't = this is how the cheaters are caught & people can see the truth - so, it's a very good thing. I see you LOve your religion & yes, I know so many muslims have converted 2 sikh - I met another priest @ El Sobrante Gurudwara & he told me that they have a headpriest who was muslim so I know. It's so funny, how U can say one thing & the meaning is taken so many different ways. Luckily, we can clarify that here but in many situations, it's not & trouble starts. We're lucky, we can sit around & talk because there's people fighting 2 stay alive or eat & I pray 4 them. Just like someone posted on here, saying = shut-up & stop talking smack sitting behind yo key boards, U really wanna do something then get yo butt up & go fight - really broadens my mind. Thanks again & we'll be waiting 4 yo book !

Yes Humkire Bhai, I heard it all the time in our family that Guru Nanak was muslim but a while ago my dad said that cause we talk a lot about religion now cause he see's me going 2 Gurudwara all the time. So, he said that Guru Nanak was muslim & I corrected him. I said Abba " where do U guys get off calling their leader muslim? How would U like it if they say that Mohammed saheb was sikh just because he spent time with sikh friends." I told him, don't say that if U don't have any proof & please don't assume - let somebody from their religion say that - we have NO Right 2 say that. I told him, GIani Thakur Singh said that the zum zum pani - the Holy water that we have at mecca gushed forth because Guru Nanak Dev Ji hit the spot with his cane & thats how it was found. He just looked at me shocked & I said there " how does that feel." I asked, " so that can be true cause Guru Nanak did visit mecca" & he was their friend. Sangat, I don't care who anybody is, I will speak up for the truth - the whole truth & nothing but the truth so HELP ME GOD !!! Also reg Zakir Naik, we've just recently heard of him but we have never seen any of his debates or recording. I was visiting my dad just last month & my uncle came 2 see me & was telling us of Zakir Naik - that he's so big & that he has all his tapes & we should hear it. I don't care 2 but my dad said he will cause my uncle insisted that he was gonna let him borrow his tapes. Check this out - after my uncle left, my dad said " I don't care to listen to him cause he's not of my sect." I'm telling U - they fight amongst themselves & put each other down. It's the same in all religion, all these nitpicking just pushes us further apart - as long as we do the main part - which is try 2 make all our prayers & do simran & kirtan = I think we'll be just fine. kiv kar aakhaa kiv saalaahee kio varanee kiv jaanaa || How can we speak of Him? How can we praise Him? How can we describe Him? How can we know Him? naanak aakhan sabh ko aakhai eik dhoo eik siaanaa || O Nanak, everyone speaks of Him, each one wiser than the rest. vaddaa saahib vaddee naaee keethaa jaa kaa hovai || Great is the Master, Great is His Name. Whatever happens is according to His Will. naanak jae ko aapa jaanai agai gaeiaa n sohai ||21|| O Nanak, one who claims to know everything shall not be decorated in the world hereafter. || paathaalaa paathaal lakh aagaasaa aagaas || There are nether worlds beneath nether worlds, and hundreds of thousands of heavenly worlds above. ourrak ourrak bhaal thhakae vaedh kehan eik vaath || The Vedas say that you can search and search for them all, until you grow weary sehas at(h)aareh kehan kathaebaa asuloo eik dhhaath || The scriptures say that there are 18,000 worlds, but in reality, there is only One Universe. laekhaa hoe th likheeai laekhai hoe vinaas || If you try to write an account of this, you will surely finish yourself before you finish writing it. saalaahee saalaahi eaethee surath n paaeeaa || The praisers praise the Lord, but they do not obtain intuitive understanding nadheeaa athai vaah pavehi samu(n)dh n jaaneeahi || the streams and rivers flowing into the ocean do not know its vastness. samu(n)dh saah sulathaan girehaa saethee maal dhhan || Even kings and emperors, with mountains of property and oceans of wealth keerree thul n hovanee jae this manahu n veesarehi ||23|| -these are not even equal to an ant, who does not forget God. ||23|| a(n)th n sifathee kehan n a(n)th || Endless are His Praises, endless are those who speak them. WaheGuru WaheGuruWaheGuruWaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaaaaaaaaaaaaheGuruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Ji ha, So near yet so far, you're so Right !!! Guru Granth sahib ji mei jo bani hai = jo kalaam hai, yeh sirf GuruJi ka hai ki aur dharam ka hai ??? Islam ke Sheikh Farid Ji ka kalaam bhi hai. Guru Nanak Dev Ji & Guru Gobind Singh Ji had very close muslim friends - did either of them tell each other 2 change religion. I don't have 2 show or prove myself 2 no one - just 2 God. If he wants me to convert then YES, I definitely will but right now, I'm GOOD !!! So near yet so far, you're getting HOT so that means you're near & Right on track cause U saw my point of view - thank U !!! And by the way, I'm Gods woman. Ant na siftee, kahai na Ant - Ant na karnai , bin na Ant Ant na vikhan - soon na Ant, Ant na jaape - kya mun Ant Ant na jaape - kita Akaar, Ant na jaape paravar Ant kaaran kete - Bil lahi takey Ant, takey Ant na pai jai Eho Ant na janey koi - bahuta kahiay bahuta hoi

Whoa Humkire Bhai, Okay, so I hear that they are pushing 2 convert people but I have not noticed it that bad in our group 2 tell U the truth. It MUST be different in those countries - I don't know what else 2 say but YES, I have 2 do some research now - don't really care to cause I know we're not like that but believe me, I HEAR U !!! LIke I said, the worst I have noticed is that when someone comes 2 our mosque - they push them with literature & about coming 2 masjid all the time. Thats what I liked about sikhism - nobody ever came up 2 me or try 2 push me into the religion. U can convert as many people U want but if it's not from their heart - what good is that - who they trying to show or prove - just humans - like ants 2 me & another number. GOD see's all & he's sab se bada - Oocha se Oocha Bhagvant !!! WaheGuru naam Jahaaj hai, charai so utre paar, jo sharda kar semvde Guru par utaran haar krq iPry bn ByK mohn rhq inrwr ]1] rhwau ] karath firae ban bhaekh mohan rehath niraar ||1|| rehaao || Some wander around the forests, wearing religious robes, but the Fascinating Lord remains distant from them. ||1||Pause|| kQn sunwvn gIq nIky gwvn mn mih Drqy gwr ]1] kathhan sunaavan geeth neekae gaavan man mehi dhharathae gaar ||1|| They talk, preach, and sing their lovely songs, but within their minds, the filth of their sins remains. ||1|| Aiq suMdr bhu cqur isAwny ibidAw rsnw cwr ]2] ath su(n)dhar bahu chathur siaanae bidhiaa rasanaa chaar ||2|| They may be very beautiful, extremely clever, wise and educated, and they may speak very sweetly. ||2|| mwn moh myr qyr ibbrijq eyhu mwrgu KMfy Dwr ]3] maan moh maer thaer bibarajith eaehu maarag kha(n)ddae dhhaar ||3|| To forsake pride, emotional attachment, and the sense of 'mine and yours', is the path of the double-edged sword. ||3|| khu nwnk iqin Bvjlu qrIAly pRB ikrpw sMq sMgwr ]4]1]31] kahu naanak thin bhavajal thareealae prabh kirapaa sa(n)th sa(n)gaar ||4||1||31|| Says Nanak, they alone swim across the terrifying world-ocean, who, by God's Grace, join the Society of the Saints. ||4||1||31|| And yes, I've heard them say that Guru Nanak was muslim & I don't believe that. Just because he hung out with muslims friends & maybe wore some clothes that they gave him - they get off saying that - I don't believe it cause he's your leader & I'm just like him - I hang out with priests & go 2 Gurudwara all the time dosen't give people the right 2 say I'm Sikh. I know exactly how people manipulate things & I can see right thru it. They're just trying 2 use that as artillary 2 coerce girls into converting. Thats not TRUE religion = they're just playing the numbers game = 2 show, Oh, we have the most followers so our religion is true. WRONG, they might have a big army & ours small but they only have soldiers - we got warriors & gladiators on our team so we WILL win !!! It's the not the quantity - the quality that matters, not throwing yo weight around but technique, skills. People who don't associate with other race or religion are scared of the truth - I'm NOT, I can hang out with all race & religion & will not leave the dharam that GOD bore me in cause obviously it was 4 a reason. But I hear U Humkire - if I get carried away & feel I need 2 convert, I surely will. This is what Hari uncle said the last time I talked 2 him & thats why I want 2 talk to him more but like I said, it's long distance & I never called him before so he's finding it rather uncomfortable that I'm questioning him. He said that we would have 2 sit down & talk about this & thats gonna be hard cause he's in NewZealand. But your religion is very Gawjis - bahut sundar that I have fallen in Love with the Love of my LIFE - me Lord God WaheGuru & he's gonna take care of me from now on !!! Whatever he says " I Do". There, marriage perfomed & honeymoon's on the way. This is the song 2 our 1st dance - Mera pyaar bhi tu hai, yeh bahaar bhi tu hai, tu hi nazron mei jaaney tamannaaaa, tu hi Nazaaron mein, Hazaaron mein, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Tu hi tuhi tuhi tuhi - WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Wahe Guru Wahe Guru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru WaheGuru Wahe Guruuuuuuuuuuuuu Sorry Humkire bhai - I would love 2 invite U over 4 dinner but I'm off 2 honeymoon - U missed the wedding. I'll tell WaheGuru 2 shower U with heavenly sweets instead...I'm sure you'll savor that much much more.

Humkire bhai, U said inside that little kids body is a soul from many previous births right, & I read the topic on this forum where someone is worried why so many punjabi girls are converting 2 muslim - I won't say Islam if the converting is decieving & corrupt. U know muslims DO NOT believe in Re-incarnation but sikhs do & I do. I think the muslim men who are decieving these girls are reborn in their body & the punjabi girls who are running away with them are the muslim men from Orangeheads time. SO, God is teaching them whats it like to be in the others shoes - they did it thru hatred & this time GOD is teaching them thru LOVE !!! PAYBACK time - what goes around comes around !!! They did it thru force & this time they're getting hit back thru the heart so they can feel the pain - U keep bleeding, keep keep bleeding. See, I was born in Fiji & I think the reason why GOD bore me in that country is 2 teach me about LOVE = it knows no boundaries or discrimination against race, color, sex or religion. Like I said, my aunt is married 2 Hari Singh & nobody forced him & he loves Islam & is more devout than any of us in the family. My uncle is married to Daya Karan & she converted to Islam & is very devout. Maybe @ first she married just to do the nikah cause in Islam, U can't do the ceremonial unless both parties are muslim but she loves the religion from their heart. She's half hindu & half punjabi & her dad was sikh & he kicked her out of the family cause she married a muslim & she was really torn that she could not see her family again. He told her that if she came near any of his family - he would kill her & never let her come back. I think thats love, she just fell in love & was forced which road 2 take = ( milti hai zindagi mein mohabbat kabhi kabhi, laati hai is morr pe karamat kabhi kabhi ) Another one of my aunt is white but she never converted & both her & my uncle are very happy. I'll give U a good example = I have twin brothers. One was in love with a native-american girl & they dated for about 7 yrs cause my mom did not want her at all marrying my brother & neither did her family. Look, another set of indian hatin on each other, lol. When they decided 2 marry against both families, there was nothing 2 do but 2 give them Blessings & every one saw the goodness of their heart & they were so GOOD & Happy together. NOW, the other twin married a muslim indian girl & my mom was so proud & happy with joy CAUSE she's muslim/hindustani but as soon as she stepped foot in the house, trouble started & she just tore the family apart. SO, whats our lesson from this ?????? My brother who married the native-american girl died soon after marriage - he was 30 yrs old & died from carbon monoxide poisoning in the apartment. This brought my mom & sister-in-law even closer & my mom died 1 yr right to the date after my brother died cause she could not live without him cause he was an angel. She felt so guilty he had such a short life & that she had taken some of his happiness away & wasted his time from stopping him 2 marry the love of his life. He was so good, agreed to everyone & never fought with anyone & everyone says he was a special being. But wait a minute, my elder brother is married 2 indian muslim girl & they're very happy. My marriage was arranged with muslim/indian from our community but he's rotten. I don't know but everyone's mixing & marrying into another so that we can learn that LOVE is the most important thing - race, religon, sex or color dosen't matter = its the person & the heart that matters. Religion divides people, spirituality brings all together. How can U be best friends with one of another race or religion & then go home or 2 the temple & talk against them. We have 2 live in the present, whats happening today & move forward. I know it's hard but the past does hold us back. Like in ours, having 5 wives at a time is okay - that was okay back then cause most men died in fighting & so lots of women & children were left behind so they said it was okay 2 marry 5 as long as U treat them right & provide 4 them. But nobody does that now - if fact, the marriages are breaking apart because of fooling around. I only know of 2 men in Fiji & they were my grandfathers age who had 2 wives but people degraded them so badly cause of that. No women will put up with that in this day & age - I think we have 2 kind of evolve with time & change some of the rules. But I know Sikhi is a very tight community & the fight that the GuruJi's put up against the zulum Orangehead did - I totally understand why they stay in their own kaum & have to follow the maryada. I second it - its just hard when you're living in a modernized country like America. It's hard 4 me to cover up = I don't except 4 when I'm @ temple or masjid because of the line of work I do but I think I would do it in saudi because all muslim women do. But its changing, people are standing up 4 religion & people are realizing - actually, people here in America will flock 2 a meditation or yoga class led by someone who looks like a yogi then someone who has no beard. Just like the punjabi boys who are embarassed to grow beard or wear dastaar - so many are taking Amrit now & proud of it cause they know about khalsa. Please forgive me if I said anything wrong & go ahead & correct me but like I said, my thinking is very open . I pray 4 WORLD PEACE, sincerely, Naaz It's not the religion or color, it'