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  1. Akal Purakh Ki Fauj ^_^

    What it means is: These Shaheed, Maha-purakh, great souls....they all fought in one way or other for the Sikh Homeland freedom.

    The poster is descriptive in the sense that it starts by describing the situation that the Panth and the individual Sikh (you) are in at present: these great souls have left us. They did their job, whatever Waheguru wanted them to do.

    However, at the end there comes a normative "epilogue" where the writer says that the solution is no other but to follow the path of these great souls! They did wonderful things in their lifespan, and now, in this era it is up to YOU to do the same.

    My understanding is that, Dal Khalsa is asking us to not only 'think and chatter about the past great gursikhs', but in every aspect of our life, we should strive to become like them. And their solution for us is to join their org. the Dal Khalsa international, that is working for Khalistan in Punjab.

  2. http://www.gurugranthsahibsewamission.org/index.html

    Guru Granth Sahib translation project launched

    Tribune News Service

    Mohali, November 25

    The Tamil Nadu Governor, Mr Surjeet Singh Barnala, today launched a Rs 5 crore project that would involve the translation of Guru Granth Sahib into 12 different languages of the country.

    The project, undertaken by the Guru Granth Sahib Sewa Mission here, has been dedicated to the 400 years of the installation of the Granth. The work is expected to be completed by 2008. Scholars of 11 Indian languages apart from Hindi have been engaged for the purpose.

    The Punjab Chief Minister, Captain Amarinder Singh, who was to accompany Mr Barnala, cancelled his visit. Talking to mediapersons, Mr Barnala appreciated the project saying he would ensure that the mission received funds from the Shatabdi Committee, of which he was a member.

    Mr Gurinder Pal Singh Dhanola, chief organiser of the project, said the mission would distribute 1 lakh copies of Japji Sahib in each of these languages free of cost. Another 1,000 copies of Guru Granth Sahib would be distributed free to established libraries and organisations in the country and abroad. Another 5,000 copies of Japji Sahib and Guru Granth Sahib in Hindi would also be distributed free of cost.

    The mission’s website, www.gurugranthsahibsewamission.org, was also launched by Mr Barnala. A monthly report of the mission would be posted on the website to ensure transparency in the working of the mission.

    Mr Dhanola said scholars considered masters in their language had bee

    n chosen for the work. Prof Vasant R. Kushtagi would be translating Guru Granth Sahib into Kannada, Prof R. Kannan into Tamil, Dr S. Mohanta Assamese, Dr N.C. Panda Oriya, Prof M. Shiva Ramamurti Telegu, Dr A.A. Ahluwalia Gujarati, Ms Ranjita Roy Bangla, Prof M.S. Vishambhram Malyalam and Bhai Devinder Pal Singh from Rampura would translate it into Urdu.

    Dr Dhanola explained that a master translation in English would be first compiled, which would be given to these scholars to work with. “We have five different English translations of Guru Granth Sahib. Text would be picked from all these to create a master copy, which would then be distributed for translation.” He added that a Hindi translation was already available and the mission would request for a copyright from its publishers, he said.

    Mr Mewa Singh Sidhu of Punjab Agro represented the Chief Minister at the function and assured the mission all help.

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    From their website:

    Guru Granth Sahib Sewa Mission has taken up the enormous task of transliteration of the Baani of Sri Guru Granth Sahibji in 12 regional languages on India viz., Kanadda, Malayalam, Telugu, Tamil, Oriya, Assamese, Bengali, etc. Schoalrs of these languages are working with us round-the-clock for tranliterating the Baani after thorough discussion of each word with Sikh scholars and highly enlightened religious people.

  3. Secondly if the nanaksahi calendar is so good, why does it not apply to Guru Nanak Dev Jis Birthday? This gurpurb still is celebrated by the Bikrami calendar by all sikhs! The answer is because the logic of nanaksahi does not apply to it, it fails so the great mr purewal decided to leave it out of the nanaksahi calendar

    Fourthly if the gurus themselves celebrated gurpurbs with the bikrami calendar why should we change? are we saying the gurus were wrong to follow it?

    Ques. 2:

    - As i said earlier, the original date of Guru Sahib's parkash utsav is on 15th april. The actual date proposed by Mr Purewal was according to that date. But that met stiff resistance from Sant Samaji quarters, so SGPC compromised and in a meeting with different organisations (including Sant Samaj etc), decided that three dates (parkash utsav, divaali, and hola mohalla) should be celebrated in line with old dates, as the tradition has it that way. And, now you guys come up and say we don't accept it. At first, SGPC does what it can so that NC is accepted by all Sikhs...and we DO reach a solution. Nihangs get their Hola arranged as they want, Sant Samaj gets Parkash Utsav as 'Katak Di Pooran Mashi', but still you guys don't stop throwing dirt at our major institution. nonono.gif

    Ques. 4:

    - this is by far the best argument. the only answar i can give is: it was the calender used those days, there was no choice. but then you would say: oh, if they wanted they could create NC.

    just a thought; if they wanted they could create sgpc also...but that had to be done by singh sabhaits. if they wanted they could have given us an authentic 'Sikh Rehat Maryada' in written form..

  4. Simran Bhainji,

    you are right. Barah Mah (lit. 12 months) is actually a Punjabi literary genre. LOTS of Punjabi poets have written their own Barah Mahs, if i am not wrong lots of Sufis (Bulleh Shah etc), and some other non-Sikh Punjabi poets also wrote such poems on the 12 months.

    In Sri Guru Granth Sahib, i think two Guru Sahib wrote Barah Mahs.

    And in all types of Barah Mahs, the settings is between the seeker/devotee and Waheguru, and how through different stages of life/age/year a person seeks to meet Waheguru....up and downs in life...very inspiring.

  5. Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

    Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

    i see things have stiill not changed, oh well.

    The Birthday of Guru Nanak Sahib falls on Kartik Puranmashi i.e. full moon day of the month Kartik

    source: http://www.sgpc.net/gurus/gurunanak.asp

    Bhai Sahib Ji, i think you have overlooked the first line: Guru Nanak Sahib (the First Nanak, the founder of Sikhism) was born on 15th April, 1469 at Rai-Bhoi-di Talwandi in the present distrect of Shekhupura (Pakistan)...

    In the Damdami Taksal link you presented it says Katak Di Pooran Mashi in year 1469 was on 29th november.

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    Anyone who reads this will be confused.

    1. SGPC site says that birthday of Guru Sahib falls on Katak Di Pooranmashi, even though Guru Sahib was not born on Katak Di pooranmashi in 1469.

    2. Damdami Taksal site says Guru Sahib was born on K.P., and hence their birthday is celebrated on K.P today also.

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    How is correct?

    - Waheguru knows.

    When do we celebrate Guru Sahib's birthday?

    - on Katak Di Pooranmashi, ie 26th nov this year.

    - Both Nanakshahi calender and Bikrami Calender agree here....because three Gurpurabs/Sikh holidays are celebrated according to BC in the accepted NC.

    -> so why are we fi

    ghting?

    if the panth has agreed upon celebrating on Katak di pooranmashi, even though one part says Guru Sahib was not born on that day, and the other side the opposite.....what the use?

    - Why do they disagree??

    It is simply because Bhai Bala Ji's Janamsakhi and most traditional accounts say that Guru Sahib was born on K.P. 1469

    But, some research done by Karam Singh Historian in the starting of 20th cent. concluded that Guru Sahib was born on 15th april. I believe he used 'Valaitan Vali Janamsakhi' or Puratan/Coolebroke Janamsakhi...i am not sure. but the matter is that it was some new janamsakhi that appeared, which was thought as most authentic that had this new date.

    -> So SGPC's conclusion is: Guru Sahib was born on 15th april, 1469, but as Katak Di pooranmashi has become tradition, we have to continue following it.

  6. Planned building of Gurudwara Shri Guru Nanak Niwas. It will be located 30 kms outside Oslo, the capital of Norway....in a town called Drammen. Lier is a small "pind" in Drammen. grin.gif

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    -Planned building/13 meters height...with central-dome and side-spires.

    This will be the second Gurdwara in Norway....there are more than 3000 sikhs living in Oslo and Drammen area. Sangat is growing!

    Here is our Oslo Gurdwara website: www.gurduaranorway.com (Gurudwara Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji)

    :wub:

  7. But can you explain over decades of control on Akaal Takth by Budda Dal and other sampardha holds less weight than control of 80 some yrs control of modern british created SGPC?? Which hold more value to you?

    The child of Singh Sabha Lehar - the parliament of Tatt Khalsa - offcourse my beloved SGPC!

  8. yo people wots nanakshahi calender and how does it differ to bikrami calender???

    Some information is found on these websites:

    http://www.geocities.com/pspurewal/Purewal.html

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/si...tures/calendar/

    http://www.sgpc.net/festivals/Jantri%20Samat%20536.pdf [DOWNLOAD! It is in Punjabi, 23 pages, if you bother reading..]

    http://www.goldencurios.com/Calendar.htm (same document in paper-document)

    http://allaboutsikhs.com/way/sikhdates.htm

    Kamar Kasa,

    May i add the names of following Panthic orgs that support NC in your list:

    - Dal Khalsa

    - DSGPC

    - PSGPC

    - Shiromani Akali Dal (Amritsar-Mann)

    - Akal Purakh Ki Fauj

    - World Sikh Council

    - Most Singh Sabhas around the world.... rolleyes.gif

    By

    the way,

    NC does have pooranmashi days marked, but they have nothing to do with Gurmat. It is simply Punjabi/Hindu tradition, and just like in the west people have a day of on Sundays to go to church etc., back in days in India they decided to make fullmoon day kind of 'religious day'. again, nothing to do with Gurmat.

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