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  1. "Guys and girls shouldnt chat to each other at Gurdwaras"

    "Guys and girls should not txt each other or ring one another"

    "Guys and girls should not add each other to msn"

    "Guys and girls should not chill out withj one another or meet up"

    "Guys and girls should not go on HI5"

    And then Singhs wonder why girls run off with Muslim boys, jeeeeeeez if we can't talk to our own, then who the hell are we supposed to talk to?

    LOL.gif Nice one, interesting point. If individuals are paranoid that Hi5 and other similar networks like these are being used in an inappropriate way, then why not consider the idea of creating a network solely for Sikhs. Young and mature Sikhs alike can meet and greet each other and give each other testimonials or whatever -- incorporating all the features used by other networking sites. Maybe calling it HiPajee! or Sikhi5!........ grin.gif Use your imagination...

  2. and king singh... yh i hurd that many times getting abit old now.... its the colour of the reflection you on about i on about the mirror itself... what if the mirror didnt have a reflective surface what colour would it be

    THEN IT'S NOT A MIRROR!!!

    ok now its my turn to ask a question... y does raman ask so many questions?

    can anyone answer it?...

    I have a suggestion as to why Raman asks so many questions; it is because he's not married and is not concentrating on his studies like a good boy. :)

  3. VJKK VJKF

    Seems so simple to me.. yet hard...

    THey shouldnt be gianis! If caught, get chucked out.. straight. Don;t let them get away with it. I dont understand whats stopping everyone form just doing that.

    And Gianis take advantage of it all.

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    One of the main reasons why it isn't so simple is partially, as mentioned previously, most of the victims feel either too shy or scared, maybe due to the outcome and do not wish to come forward. They may feel that they cannot share this with anyone, as the listener may interpret her as one of these gyals who checks the lads and is one of these typical Punjabi gyals.

    As "on-lookers" all we are able to do is promote the issue, and make people more aware of the situation at hand. A forum like this one is an exceptional idea to spread the word and/or passing the information through mates.

    There are simple ways in which to decrease the risk of these cases arising. Common methods are going with a mate to the Gurdwara, another method could involve making it obvious that you're recording him on your phones. This use of mobile phones will certainly intimidate him, and make you seem less vulnerable and more in control of the situation. Remember, they target gyals who seem easily intimidated and shy.

    I've mentioned before by recording the events as a written log, or even going to the extent of photographing/recording the "ghianis" by using mobile phones. This will create a visual profile of them together with the written log notes.

    But hey, maybe that's going to the extreme tongue.gif

    Spread the Word and Raise Awareness.

  4. VJKK VJKF

    I’ve found a similar thread on the same subject. Click below, it might provide some useful advice:

    http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showto...12772&hl=gianis

    Also here's my response:

    WJKK WJKF

    This may sound OTT. But, after these incidents have happened, the victims should write the incident down, and say exactly what happened and when it happened.

    They can also go to the extent of video-taping or photographing the perpetrators.

    I know its OTT, but before, during or even after the incident, victims should take a note of the events that happened.

    Once they have sufficient evidence, show it to the heads of that Gurdwara, and their name will be blackened and condemned, and most importantly; justice will be served.

    If they think they can get away with harassing our penjis, they should think again.

    Also, it’s a good idea if they can try to avoid being alone in the first place, and go with someone.

    I hope all of the penjis here are safe and sound, but be careful though, and heed my advice above.

    God Bless u all!

  5. VJKK VJKF

    Clearly, whatever you're going to say, it’s not going to get through to the gyal.

    I suggest you try and talk to the goth grim reaper.

    It's already been said before that they have no future. I’ll be straight with you as well; they have nothing together - unless she wants to be the next runaway bride.

    But in the end it's her life, and if she wants to be stupid she'll pay for it. I've seen and had a hell of alotta mates who have been in similar situations like this and I’m sure you all have to.

    To be honest this time I am not sorry for whats said.

    "Every action has a reaction"

    Also what Herra Singh said:

    as you sow.. so shall you reap...
  6. VJKK VJKF

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    If they were sisters of faith, they would never get involved with non-sikhs full stop.

    These girls have only themselves to blame no one is forcing them to go out with anyone, or indulge in anti-sikh activties. They CHOSEN to do what they have done. So let them take responsibility for their actions. They are grown up arent  they? or are they babies who need to be wrapped up in cotton wool?

    I'm harsh on this issue because I and alot of brothers and sisters I know are fed up with these kind of girls. Their is nothing Sikh about them. Let future generation of these kind of girls realise that you reep what you sow.... so that they learn from mistakes of other girls why its not a gud idea to slag about.

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    Spot on. Every action has a reaction.

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    Dont be stupid, no one deserves that to be done to them, despite of the type of person they are :) For you to even say that, 'every action has a reaction' to something like this, makes me sick.

    Its not that girls, fault for walking away from Sikhi. Its our fault!!! We havent told the world how great this beloved Sikhi of ours is.

    Its our fault no.gif

    arghhhhhhhhhhh, i want to shoot someone

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    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa. Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

    sinner veer ji is not being stupid. he knows what he's saying.

    if she didnt deserve that, then why would it have happened? do you think God punishes His children just because He wants to??? do you think He wanted that to happen to His daughter(s)???

    how can you say that its not her fault if she walked away from sikhi? how can you say that its our fault? that makes no sense...

    so you think that God's gonna forgive her for walking away for a muslim guy?

    how can you say that its our fault? "we havent told the world how great this beloved Sikhi of ours is"???

    is this some kind of joke. we're doing the best we can. even gore people know how great our sikhi is. its not our fault. if you say that, then how can you explain the fact that other sisters are Amrit-Dhari and in chad di kala?? so its out communitys fault that girls get tricked raped by mulsims, but at the same time its thanks to our community that singhnees are in chad di kala???

    what are you trying to say??

    she asked for it. does our community tell girls (or anyone for that matter) to loose their virginity?

    and she did too.

    she also said "please sisters, dont become punjabis worst enemies."

    why didnt she say anything about sikhi?

    and in the end she said that it was sikh guys faults that they look like "pu**ys"

    there are plenty of good guys out there.

    she didnt look for them. and she fell for a guy she didnt even know from outside of our community.

    dont think that im cold-hearted

    i do feel sorry for her when she was gang-raped..sort of...

    because if she didnt go with him in the first place, then that wouldn't have happened either.

    WJKK WJKF

    Aite Safe. Sorry if I offended anyone.

    I was supporting the fact that the gyals should not start anything in the first place.

    If you plant an evil seed, it will grow into a fierce and ruthless plant. With situations like this, If you start <banned word filter activated> with someone, <banned word filter activated> is gonna come back.

    Once again, sorry if I offended anyone and for any damage caused.

    Peace

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    sinner veer ji, you dont have to be sorry

    what you said first was correct.

    im sorry if i have offended anyone

    to girls: .....please use the brain that God has given you.

    peace...

    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa. Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

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    Thankyou for your support Penji, God bless you

  7. VJKK VJKF

    waxing is the best solution. surely facial hair is not worth your happiness. like u said what about your future, your marriage.

    you wouldnt want to be second guessing yourself with your partner.

    whether we like it or not, it is a superficial world. we get judged everyday.

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    what the heck are you talking about...that is some extreme manmat advice there, wax? WAX!?! you want your sister to get maha beatings for doing beadbi of guru jis saroop

    Now your problem is the facial hair > it bugs u like mad, so what could the solution be >>> you want to look and most importantly feel beautiful >>> This because one is attached to his or her body >>> but as this is ur wish u are not gonna feel complete until it is complete so my humble advice to you is do a ardaas infront of guru ji asking for your "wish" and comence in naam bhagti, add about 10 jap ji sahibs to your nitnem and another 5 anand sahibs to help keep you happy.

    from my view you are in a fortunate position, you have no job and no marriage which means you have no worldy worries; at this time guru sahib "maybe" trying to tell you it is your time to imbue your self in naam.

    please forgive me if ive said anything worng.

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    Nice reply!! :TH:

  8. VJKK VJKF

    Aw, Stay Strong.

    Here's a similar topic about a loved one:

    http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=12942&hl=

    Here's also my post:

    WJKK WJKF

    Penji, marriage is such a sensitive issue; this can be solved through the family.

    You have to tell your parents how you feel about this dude before you do get married. You have to put your foot down, because what if it doesn’t work out? This may well end in divorce - and that will smother your families’ reputation, and we all know how much our parents value status.

    About your cousin, this is definitely a sensitive issue. Ill tell you how I coped when me gran past away, and maybe you'll find strength in there.

    I think I was about 12 or so, and I walked into the hospital, and walked into her room that she was in, and I saw all my cousins there as well. I didn’t realize why everyone was so sad, I mean, I was thinking "wow all my cousins are here, it’s gonna be fun!"

    Until I actually saw her, I felt the real blow. I started to cry, but me mom held me back.

    When we came home, me mom told me that “you shouldn’t cry, if you cry you’re stopping her from crossing the bridge towards Sachkhand, the more you cry, the more she'll be held back". "So, stop crying, and do paath, do alot of simran, and help her to cross that bridge". After she said that, she said, "Don’t hold her back".

    So, my advice is, talk to your parents, don’t leave it, pick up the courage, be the princess you are.

    About your sister, don’t hold her back.

    You can talk to me about this if u want, just PM me first, it'll make ADMIN happy lol.

    God bless u, I hope you find your strength

    Hope I helped. Take care.

  9. VJKK VJKF

    I understand what you're feeling, but at the same time, I feel that your Sikhi shouldn't depend so heavily on one person.  People come and go from our lives, but our Sikhi is one thing that should remain steadfast through any hurdle.

    This person has hurt you and you were justified in feeling hurt, but holding onto that pain will only further harm you.  If they've apologised and you admit that it was unavoidable for the person to have done whatever they did, then it's wrong to still hold it against them.  It's hard to let things go sometimes, but it really is best.  Letting go doesn't mean you have to talk to them though.  Sometimes avoiding the person and creating distance is better.  If the person is of the opposite sex, then I very highly recommend that you indeed take the path of greatest distance from them.  Your Sikhi really shouldn't depend on this one person such that when the person is gone, your Sikhi goes with him/her.

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    From what I’ve read, to state the obvious I don’t think you’ve fully forgiven their apology. If that’s the case, and you can’t get yourself round the hurt they’ve caused you, I’d suggest you give each other some space for a while. Let each of you calm down, and let things settle for a while.

    Once things are settled, have a chat with them and you’ll be surprised of how well things are flowing.

    Take care

  10. VJKK VJKF

    waheguru ji kekhalsa, waheguru ji ke fateh

    Pyare jio, please do not just assume Mohammed was a great person. I did, before I read about his life. I now think he is a highly questionable individual. I would not regard him as a great man, not even comparable with any Sikh. Any person who just keeps basic rehit is a better human being than him.

    Read about his life, and how he actually lived. You will be very surprised.

    waheguru ji kekhalsa, waheguru ji ke fateh

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    I also thought the same until I read about his life written by Muslims themselves. If you pick up a book on Mohammed written by a non-Muslim you will be surprised at how the author will gloss over some of the questionable things that Mohammed did and try and present him as some sort of saint but the reality is otherwise. The amusing thing is that some Muslims try and justify and explain away these things saying that it was due to the times he lived in and then they contradict this by saying that he was a perfect example for every Muslim to follow!

    Some of the questionable things he did are-;

    1. Marry a 6 year old girl when he was in his fifties and consummate the marriage when she was 9

    2. Break his promises to his wives, especially when he had so many and each had a night that was allocated to her and he was found in one wife's bed by the wife whose night it was! He then had a 'revelation' from Allah telling him it's ok for him to break his promises to is wives!

    3. Allow his followers to rape women captured in war.

    4. Had 800 Jewish men beheaded and sold their wives and children into slavery. He took one of the Jewish men's wife as his concubine

    5. Brought and sold slaves. Sometimes slaves were brought and sold in the mosques

    6. Took part in raids on caravans effecting the economy of Mecca and forcing the Meccans to attack him

    7. Banned Christian and Jews or any non-Muslims from being able to follow their own religion in Arabia

    These are just a few of the questionable things he did. Along with the above Muslims believe that Mohammed was also bewitched by black magic.

    Comparing Mohammed's life with any Gursikh's life let alone the Gurus shows how badly affected by ego Mohammed was. This is why in Bachittar Natak Mohammed is described as setting up his own sect and getting his followers to repeat his name and not do Nam Jap.

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    LOL, wasn't this topic about discussing whether Mohammed was God's friend? I'd suggest you post that on a Muslim forum and let them debate each statement.

    We are not individuals to diss other religion’s beliefs and their prophets. It will always backfire on that rude individual, and make them look bad. What goes around comes around. I’m sure in reaction to this, they will be more than happy to start topics on their own forums and come out with “Guru Nanak was this, and Guru Nanak did that”. Don't make us look bad or rude, because we are not.

    We have all been brought up to be respectful, compassionate and forgiving human beings – let alone our Sikhi. Whether we’re Sikh, Muslim, Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, etc, we all should value one another. Each Sikh represents his or hers entire community, people will begin to stereotype us if one Sikh diss’ other faiths - people will think we all do it.

    Stick to the topic, just as in the Sikhsangat Rules; “Discuss the message, not the messenger”. Do not discuss Mohammed’s life stories, Discuss whether he was God’s friend or not.

    Peace

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