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  1. hey sis, i am going to share what i'm going through i hope it is of some help tp you!

    well my folks are Amritdhari so when i decided i wanted to receive Amrit (a few weeks ago) they were totally chuffed

    previosuly however i used to wax/shave arms and legs and i would get my face threaded on a regular basis and i had cut hair on my head (i mean even now i can't tie a proper joora on the top of my head when im trying to tie a dastaar because it all falls back down beacuse i had had it layered)

    anyways when i first had my hair cut my dad was so upset; i wished he would just have slapped me or something but instead he didn't talk to me for like a whole month because he was too upset and after that i knew never to touch the hair on my head again!

    as for the waxing/shaving/threading/plucking i continued and my parents would say dont do it because one day you will want to stop and it will come back thicker and longer and i would laugh and say why on earth would i want to stop?? (not knowing that such an immense and deep longing and love for Sikhi and the wanting to be a Khalsa would develop)

    so thankfully i received Amrit this Vaisakhi and i cannot even begin to describe how i feel, i am like totally wowed away by it, its soooooooo amazing! anyway back to the hair thing...

    so yeah i have stopped waxing/shaving arms and legs and to be honest they look so much better! so much more natural and its cool because i dont have to waste time removing the hair and hurting myself as for the face - yeah i got hair on my face but im like so what?!

    because before it was my choice, by my own will i removed it, no one forced me to, i mean we can say well it was done to conform to societys norms or whatever and yeah maybe it was but it wasnt like someone physically held a wax strip tp my leg and yanked my hair off, i had the choice to stop

    now my mom (who has no facial hair, come to think of it no hair on her arms or legs either - a genetic thing i think) said to me oh you should get electrolysis on your face and im like why?!

    if my own mom says that to me then im sure people out there think it and im expecting them to say it too

    end of that day though when i received Amrit i was there because i wanted to be i wanted to offer my head to Guru ji; the Panj Piareh when giving us the rehat said you cannot remove a single hair on your body, all the way form your toes up to your head,

    to me its more important to maintain my rehat than to please society; i said to my mom i'm here to impress Guru ji and God not you and the rest of society, i accept myself, i accept that God's light resides within me, i accept God created me i accept God's will, i hope to live according to that will, i dont care if no one wants to marry me because i have some facial hair, i might die right now, i may die tomorrow or next week, why should i worry about marriage that's a couple of years away, i am living in the here and now and i would rather concentrate on my marriage to God, beauty is not about what you look like its about who you are as a person, what you do, what you say, how you think, im a Sikh woman, i have so much to live for but so much to die for as well, im independent, i can stand on my own two feet, i can think for myself i can act for myself,

    i don't need society's blessings when i have Guru ji's, hang on a second isnt it society who has said "don't judge a book by its cover"??? is that then not contradicting?? if i apply for a job i expect to be judged according to my experience and qualifiacations not what i look like, its not me who needs to change but them

    also during the sanchaar you are told Guru Gobind Singh ji is your Father and Mata Sahib Kaur is your Mother, the most amazing and beautiful parents who will remain with you forever, i would rather please them!

    when i see amritdhari men and women i am so overcome and i feel so happy, they look so beautiful and i feel like hugging them!

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    so its all about your own mentality, if you have the will to live with your hair then you will find you have the power to face up to the rest of society

    i go to uni and 'friends' no longer want to sit with me in lectures or hang out with me because i look different, this makes me stronger more than anything, it makes me laugh, for what i belong to - the Khalsa - is like soooooooooooooo much more important and meaningful! and when you are a part of that nothing can get you down because we belong to God and Guru ji is forever ang sang sahai!

    Nari andar sohni mastak mani piaar - (ok my translation may be a bit iffy so please forgive me)she alone is beautiful upon who's head shines the jewel of God's love

    also when i recite Gurbani or do naam simran or listen to Kirtan in the car for example it can be like a real warm day outside yet i am so overcome and emotionally touched by the power of Gurbani i get goosebumps and all my hair stands on end and its the most amazing feeling ever, just for that reason its worth keeping your hair but there are scientific reasons behind it too (i will try dig them out)

    end of day we cannot choose our family but we can choose how we live our lives

    good luck sis i hope you make the right choice according to your own self, not anyone else!

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    :) Amazing post- I see you're as inspiring as ever!

  2. At this point I would like to mention the peepee word was used in my post solely to quote Kumi, as the is indicated by the hyphens. So.... direct your insults directly at him, not all who have used the word, as this is rather unfair. Besides, he's a big boy now (its his birthday- see the other thread) so he can take it.

    Just messing! But how did he ever manage to bring that word into this conversation? Not that the utilisation of such a word made any sense whatsoever, or for that matter the utilisation of any other word spoken by the stated individual.

  3. http://www.amritworld.com/hola/hola_mahalla05.html

    Heres some more pics of Singh Sahib Baba Balbir Singh Akali Ji's camp with Nihang Major Singh, and other Nihang Singhs with large dumallas. Nihang Major Singh, of course, adorns this large dumalla to raise awareness of Sikhi, and Sikhi Saroop on an international stage. Judging by the fact that he has apopeared in the National Press in the UK, I think it may just be working!

    He also looks to inspire youth to maintain the Sikhi Saroop

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  4. oo arguement
    NO, But if i sin a granthi doing that, id probally turn away in disgust, am not the perffect gursikh, yea i know, but id neva do guru, ji seva in shoes or flip flop

    fo example if u sin a paki doin seva wiv shows on, u know dat paki is goin dwn,

    btw, was the granthi first asked to take his shoes off

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    Turn away in disgust?? The Granth is carrying your Guru, and you'd turn away in disgust- that would also entail turning away from Guru Ji

    And if a 'paki' was doing seva with shoes on you'd beat him up???? Maybe he doesn't know he's meant to have his shoes off!

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    Um tha granthi wasnt carrying guru ji he was doin shour sahib, buh i think that when satnding by or next to gruu ji [on the same platform] i think u should not ever wear shoes, i dow like ppl that do that.

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    U got me- very observant- now back to beating up the 'paki' doing seva with shoes on- please elaborate on that issue.

  5. NO, But if i sin a granthi doing that, id probally turn away in disgust, am not the perffect gursikh, yea i know, but id neva do guru, ji seva in shoes or flip flop

    fo example if u sin a paki doin seva wiv shows on, u know dat paki is goin dwn,

    btw, was the granthi first asked to take his shoes off

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    Turn away in disgust?? The Granth is carrying your Guru, and you'd turn away in disgust- that would also entail turning away from Guru Ji

    And if a 'paki' was doing seva with shoes on you'd beat him up???? Maybe he doesn't know he's meant to have his shoes off!

  6. I am Canadian :)

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    then why are you leaving? not everything is as good in the states as ppl suggest. Not be rude, but i think it's safer in canada than in us.

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    Liar, it is everything as people suggest rolleyes.gif

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    Forget the US come to England- I can GUARANTEE you rain 362 days every year!!!!!

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    great, can I pick my three days?

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    There is only one who can pick these three days- The Queen (who did YOU think????)

  7. I am Canadian :)

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    then why are you leaving? not everything is as good in the states as ppl suggest. Not be rude, but i think it's safer in canada than in us.

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    Liar, it is everything as people suggest rolleyes.gif

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    Forget the US come to England- I can GUARANTEE you rain 362 days every year!!!!!

  8. Can't be bothered to vote- I got a  Politics Exam on the same day- wish me luck people!

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    no.gif that very sad mate...............we are very lucky to have a vote...............exercise it.........

    As Sikhs we actively participate in society................not watch from the sidelines.......... :)

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    Note the refrence to politics exam- sorry it was just my kinda messed up manner of sarcasm- I got a postal vote anyway, coz yeah, I'm lazy.

  9. Khalsa Starr, there was a time whn people in the west were willing to help, and did try. This whole ethos was ruined by the greedy people leading such operations in Punjab, people who would have no issues with pocketing funds intended for seva.

    To be quite blunt, the issue is thus that people in the West do not think their donations will be spent well if they were to try to help the poor. However, we are somewhat more comfortable with our own sevadars, and thus I think the solution this problem needs is a group, like you mentioned that focuses on humanitarian activity in the Punjab, but maintains westerners to distribute the collected funds.

    As sad as that sounds (ie that people from the west would generally be more trusted than the Punjabis from Punjab themselves with any humanitarian donations) from what I can see, that is the reality of this situation. There may be a lot of corruption in the west, but the corruption in Punjab, and India is unimaginable in comparison.

    People have thus earned the right to be wary when making donations, so it will take much work to change their attitudes.

  10. SAT SRI AKAL  pray.gif   pray.gif

    I AM ASHAMED OF PEOPLE LIKE U WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SIKHISM. :) I AM FULLY AGAINST U

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    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

    Why be ashamed of people if they "are not able to understand Sikhism". Surely if someone is "not able" to understand, they must have some mental deficiency that prevents them from doing so. Hence, in this manner, it cannot be described as the fault of that said individual. For this reason, instead of being ashamed of these poor misguided, mentally defunct souls, why not pray for them, so that they too may one day achieve your level of knowledge with regards to Sikhism. Better yet, why not eduacate these foolish brothers.

    WOW- what a world it would be eh, just imagine if we all thought like Kuldeepak- I think I have raelised the true meaning of bliss today ( I believe it is somehow related to ignorance)

    PS Khalistan Zindabaad!!!!!!!

    Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!!

  11. there are some variations to those translations, nothing bigg tho, i have my own copy of guru jis 52 hukams

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    Could you post your version so we have both accounts available, and does anyone have the actual gurmukhi version?

  12. found the 52 hukams- not sure where I got them from but.

    52 Hukams of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

    1) Dharam di Kirat karni - Earn by honest means.

    2) Daswand dena - Give one tenth of your salary.

    3) Gurbani kantth karni - Memorize Gurbani.

    4) Amrit Vaelae utthna - Wake up Amrit Vela (before dawn).

    5) Sikh sewak di sewa ruchi naal karni - Serve a Sikh Servant with devotion.

    6) Gurbani dae arth Sikh vidhvana tuo parrhnae- Learn the meanings of Gurbani from Sikh Scholars.

    7) Punj Kakaar di Rehat drirh kar rukhni - Follow the discipline of the 5 K's strictly.

    8) Shabad da abhihas karna - Practice Shabad Gurbani in life.

    9) Sat-Saroop Satgur da dhian dharna - Concentrate on the True Guru (God).

    10)Guru Granth Sahib Ji noo Guru mananaa - Accept the Guru Granth Sahib as Guru.

    11)Kaarjaan dae arambh vich ardaas karni - At the beginning of a task, do ardaas.

    12)Jaman, maran, ja viah mokae Jup da paatth kar tihaaval (Karaah Parsaad) kar anand sahib dia punj paurian, ardaas, pratham punj pyaariaan atae hazoori granthi noo vartaa kae oprunth sangat noo vartaaouna - At birth, death, or marriage ceremonies, do Japji Sahib, make Karaah Parshaad, do five stanzas of anand sahib, do ardaas, and then distribute Karaah Parshaad to the Panj Pyare, the Granthi, and then to the sangat.

    13)Jad tak Karaah Parshaad Parshaad vartadaa rahae sadh sangat addol batthee rahae - Until Karaah Parshaad is completely distributed, the Sangat should remain sitting and unmoving.

    14)Anand Viah bina grahist nahi karna - Do not start married life without Anand Karaj (Sikh ceremony of marriage).

    15)Par-Istri, Ma-Bhain, Dhi-Bhain, kar jaanani. Par Istri da sang nahi karna - Recognize all other women other than your wife as mothers and sisters. Do not engage in marital behavior with them.

    16)Istri da mooh nahi fitkaarnaa - Do not silence your wife?

    17)Jagat-jootth tambaaku bikhiaa da tiaag karna - Abandon the worldly, false tobacco-poison.

    18)Rehatvaan atae naam jupan vaalae gursikhaa di sangat karni - Keep the company of Sikhs who follow the Rehat and meditate on the Name (of God).

    19)Kum karan vich daridar nahi karna - Dont't be lazy while doing work.

    20)Gurbani di katha tae keertan roaz sunanaa atae karna - Listen and do kirtan and Gurbani discourses daily.

    21)Kisae di ninda, chugali, atae eirkha nahi karni - Do not engage in slander, gossip or spite anyone.

    22)Dhan, jawaani, tae kul-jaat da abhiman nahi karnaa (Nanak daadak tahe duae goath. Saak guru sikhan sang hoath) - Do not take pride in wealth, youth and caste. (Mother and Father's caste both castes. All Sikhs of the Guru are siblings)?

    23)Mat uchi tae suchi rakhni - Keep the religious discipline high and pure.

    24)Shubh karman tao kadae naa ttarnaa - Do not refrain from doing Righteous deeds.

    25)Budh bal da daataa vaheguroo noo jaananaa - Recognize God as the giver of intellect and strength.

    26)Sugandh (kasam sahu) dae kar itbaar janaaoun vaalae tae yakeen nahi karna - Do not believe a person who swears (one who tries/attempts to convince someone with a 'saun or saugandh').

    27)Sutantar Vicharna. Raaj Kaaj dian kamaan tae doosrae mutaa dia purshaan noo huk nahi daenaa - Rule Independently? In the affaris of government, do not give people of other religions authority/power.

    28)Raajniti parhni - Study politics.

    29)Dushman naal saam, daam, bhaed, aadiak, upaa vartnae - With the enemy, practice/deploy the various techniques/tactics of diplomacy (saam, daam, dand, bhed).

    30)Shaster vidyaa atae ghorhae di savaari da abhiaas karna - Practice the knowledge of weaponry and horse riding.

    31)Doosrae mataa dae pustak, vidyaa parhni. Pur bhrosaa drirh Gurbani, Akal Purakh tae karnaa - Study the books and knowledge of other faiths. But keep trust in Gurbani and Akal Purukh.

    32)Gurupdaesaa noo dhaaran karna - Follow the teachings of the Guru.

    33)Raheraas da paath kar kharae ho kae ardaas karni - After Rehras Paatth, do Ardaas standing up.

    34)Saun valae sohila atae 'paun guru pani pita...' salok parhna - Recite Sohila and 'paun guru pani pita...' stanza before going to sleep.

    35)Dastaar bina nahi rehnaa - Wear a turban at all times.

    36)Singha da adha naam nahi bulauna - Do not call a Singh by half of their name (nickname).

    37)Sharaab nai saevani - Do not partake of alcoholic drinks.

    38)Sir munae noo kanaiaa nahi daeni. Uos ghar daevni jithae Akal Purukh di sikhi ha, jo karzaai naa hovae, bhalae subhaa da hovae, bibaeki atae gyanvaan hovae - Do not given a daughter's hand to a clean shaven. Give her hand in a house where God's Sikhi exists, where the household is not in debt, is of a good nature, is disciplined and knowledgable.

    39)Subh kaaraj Gurbani anusaar karnae - Do all work in accordance with Gurbani.

    40)Chugali kar kisae da kam nahi vigaarnaa - Do not ruin someone's work by gossip.

    41)Kaurha bachan nahi kahinaa - Do not utter bitter statements.

    42)Darshan yaatraa gurdwaaraa di hi karni - Make pilgrimages to Gurudwaras only.

    43)Bachan karkae paalnaa - Fulfill all promises that are made.

    44)Pardaesi, lorvaan, dukhi, apung manukh di yataahshkat sewa karni - Do as much sewa as you can for foreigners, the needy and the troubled.

    45)Putari da dhan bikh jananaa - Recognize the property of a daughter as poison?

    46)Dikhaawae da Sikh nahi bananaa - Do not become an outward show-off Sikh.

    47)Sikhi kesaa-suaasa sang nibhaaouni - Live and die a Keshadhaari Sikh

    48)Chori, yaari, tthugi, dhokaa, dagaa bahi karnaa - Refrain from engaging in theft, adultery/promiscuity/permissiveness, fraud, deceit, embezzlement.

    49)Sikh da itbaar karna - Believe a Sikh.

    50)Jhutthi gavaahi nahi daeni - Do not give false testimony.

    51)Dhroh nahi karnaa - Do not cheat.

    52)Langar-Parshaad ik ras vartaaunaa - Distribute Langar and Karaah Parshaad with equality.

  13. Here is the Kabul Hukamnama which I got from www.akj.org, will try to find the 52 Hukams

    Kabul Hukamnama

    "Sarbat sangat Kabul Guru rakhe ga

    Tusa ute asaadee bahut khusi hai

    Tusi Khande da Amrit Panja to lena

    Kes rakhne...ih asadee mohur hair;

    Kachh, Kirpan da visah nahee karna

    SARB LOH da kara hath rakhna

    Dono vakat kesa dee palna karna

    Sarbat sangat abhakhia da kutha

    Khave naheen, Tamakoo na vartana

    Bhadni tatha kanya-maran-vale so mel na rakhe

    Meene, Massandei, Ramraiye ki sangat na baiso

    Gurbani parhni...Waheguru, Waheguru japna

    Guru kee rahat rakhnee

    Sarbat sangat oopar meri khushi hai.

    Patshahi Dasvi

    Jeth 26, Samat 1756

    *******************TRANSLATED IN ENGLISH*******************

    (To the entire sangat at Kabul.

    The Guru will protect the Sangat,

    I am pleased with you all.

    You should take baptism by the sword, from the Five Beloveds.

    Keep your hair uncut for this is a seal of the Guru,

    Accept the use of shorts and a sword.

    Always wear IRON KARA on your wrist,

    Keep your hair clean and comb it twice a day.

    Do not eat Halal (Kosher) meat,

    Do not use tobacco in any form,

    Have no connection with those who kill their daughters

    Or permit the cutting of their children's hair.

    Do not associate with Meenas, Massands and Ram-raiyas (anti-Sikh cults)

    Recite the Guru's hymns

    Meditate on "The Name of our Wonderful Lord",

    Follow the Sikh code of discipline

    I give the entire sangat my blessing)

    Signature of 10th Guru

    Jeth 26, 1756 Bikrami (23rd May 1699 A.D)

    -from akj.org forum

  14. is ya think , Every harcore Gyani-ya and sants and babeh are gone or going, jus two are Baba Takur Singh jee and Gyani Amolak Singh, soon we are going to be left with no except our guru ???

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    It is true, but surely it will be the case people step in to fill the void (or try to) that these great people have left. Looking at (some sections of) the youth, I don't think the future is too gloomy, but yeah- even if no-one did replace them, we'd be ok as long as we've got our Guru, and that will ALWAYS be the case- afterall it is one of the benefits of having an ETERNAL Guru!)

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