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^Agreed

Any idea which janamsakhi it most agrees with? And when was it discovered?

Its not working for me. Anyone know when it will be bak up to speed?

Hey we got singhs in california. Anyone here going to go, but to protest against the protest? Hopefully someone goes to quiten him down, please do so.

Details please veer?

Any examples of this please? Ie. perhaps a saint that served to be a messenger for a saints' letters in older times, perhaps a saint that kept their avastha gupt and served langar at Gurdwarey, perhaps a saint that after being blessed countinued to serve the saint that had blessed him, etc.

PLEASE and THANKS!

Gurbani tells us to follow the truth which is the naam. Gurbani is for all faiths. Yes to be a true Muslim one must follow the Koran which means (for a muslim) to submit your mind body and soul to Allah. When one takes Amrit from panj pyare one has to do the same (submit to Guru Ji with mind body and soul).

The name Mohammad is only specifically mentioned in Gurdas Ji's vaar

Veer , can you specify which Vaar? I'm interested.

i saw someone message that juggy gill guy, the guy licking his upper lip, with something like ``watch wat u call a pindu mentailty, it is a Gurus Hukamnama` and he replied back ``its a stupid mentailty``. it comes down to the parents imo...

http://www.london24.com/news/court/sikh_gang_guilty_of_attacking_indian_general_1_2309777

just seems they recieved little support. also, warning, biased article

WJK WJF

The story of Bhai Manjh Singh is a beautiful one. They were put through a lot of tests, and even spoken to disrespectfully (for testing purposes) but they showed great Nimartha and never wavered, their love for the Guru still going strong.

Link: http://www.panthic.org/articles/5093

I was hoping for some inspiration trough other stories like this. Sometimes saints may swear at a disciple on purpose to test them, but the disciple is still unwavering in their love. Any stories from the jeevans of hose such as Bhai Nand Lal Ji, Bhai Gurdas Ji, Baba Isher Singh Ji?

Another example is when Bhagat NamDev Ji was sworn at by a man, but Bhagt Ji responded with Khoob Theri Pagri, Mithe There Bol (its in gurbani) as they saw tht it was actually God who had taken that form.

I think i heard this story in passing

I thought my head ("sir") they meant ego?

Yeah, not that bad mate.

Question in the title, hoping for some tales that will put our small problems into perspective.

Best thing I've read in a while! Thank you!

best thing ull read since reading that

http://satguru.weebly.com/satguru-nanak-sahib-in-bamunanikauganda.html

^compilation of Guru Ji's traveel. some evidece he even came to North Amerca!!

Yup, ban lifted.

Not from that, either from the brar attack or the attack on that Muslim store.

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T'was that then I guess.

Yup, heard about him,great man.

But I'm looking for more pro-active actions. Like Bhai Mardana Ji, Himself was a Muslim.

Just anything to do with them. I know Sant Mian Mir Ji laid the foundation of Harimandir Sahib, Sri Guru Ram Das Ji (I think) also showed great reverance for Sri Chand Ji, and many Muslims and Hindus fought for Khalistan in 84. Any other examples? And also, how did these great souls stay true to their own faiths and not feel as if they were abandoning their own faiths by pledging their head to the Guru as well?

What country are you from? Sometimes they have slightly diffferent styles, you from Canada, UK, the States?

or were they just brainwashed?

\I was watching a movie where a guy killed a soldier on the opposing army as he was surrendering, and I though that was justice done until I thought that the guy was probably just brainwashed by his ruler to attack them. It then got me thinking of our history, and how we fought the Mughals. Were their soldiers inherently evil, or just brainwashed? Would they do the things they did if they knew the real story? Cuz im guessing they wouldn;t had they known of the Guru's greatness. OR was it more like the police in 1984 where they knew what they were doing, where they knew Sikhs were innocent but they didn't stop and thus had to be killed?

Also, any case where we killedd an unarmed soldier? I tihnk i may recall a story where someone was stoned to death by us? I might be incredibly wrong.

A collection of his writings are in a book, and some of the English translations say this (they're accurate):

"i saw nothing in chanting Ram, and i saw nothing in books"

"If there were another God besides You, what would it be?

If it were that way, then what would it be?

If it were this way, then what would it be?"

"My lips wont utter Ram,

My Ram recites me,

I have found peace, Kabira!"

These are poems of Bhagat Kabir Ji translated to English. I'm really looking for help in understanding them. Thanks!

For more of an idea of where its from, this is the book http://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://dipti.ragadesign.in/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_img/public/06%2520Ghat%2520Ghat%2520Kabir%2520%257C%2520the%2520kabir%2520project.png&imgrefurl=http://dipti.ragadesign.in/interactive/kabir-project&h=679&w=983&sz=856&tbnid=y9ooiQAhqXJLAM:&tbnh=86&tbnw=125&zoom=1&usg=__2nACSN2efMTvZSCwedm22wHyw4c=&docid=x10Z1JySWWwadM&sa=X&ei=qF1XUdCoIeaIiALq3YCwDw&ved=0CEIQ9QEwBA&dur=190

What's so annoying ?

:stupidme:

that auto spray bathroom fragrance placed right next to guru sahib

Sometimes maya and love can feel like one another. Ask yourself this: If she says something like "Oh, I don't like people who support Khalistan" or "I like to drink every now and then", will you still feel that love?

Getting into relationships can be distracting, IMO, it can focus your heart away from God. THOUGH if its the right person, another spiritually-oriented person, it can help you both get further along your journey to God

WJK WJF, in the title, if you were to meet a Saint, what things would you say that would be pleasing to them, how would you show your love for them, how would you speak?