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I hope Badal does not get in. With his previous BJP allies in control at the centre he failed to do anything for Punjab so can you imagine what will happen with a Congress central sarkar. Also I visited Punjab about a year before Badal lost the last elections and can remember how people were totally fed up with him. I even met some distant relatives who were members of the Badal Dal and even they were saying at the time that Badal would never be CM again as he had seriously mucked up. One thing that will be good to see if Badal gets in is how he treats Captain. Badal has said that he will order raids etc against Captain in revenge for Captains campaign against Badal. Only thing is (although Captain has never himself made an issue of it) that Captains forefathers have a signed Hukumnama from Guru Gobind Singh Ji Mahraj which states "....Your house is my refuge....". Will Badal attack the house where Guru Ji resides. GOing by his background Badal will be intent on revenge.

Get in touch with Col. Sandhu and he will share the details with you of the OTHER WOMEN. Ups I forgot Col. Sandhu has a brother in Pakistan and is disloyal to India (the media spin by a few sadh followers that was disclosed at a press conference a few weeks ago). There are multiple victims in Canada which shows just how much you really know. Of cause if they were named you and the other Bheva nuthuggers would slander them and accuse them of being kanjriya like you have been doing about one of the women. Yes only you can be telling the truth. Just look at your track record of backtracking on the issue of following the truth from the Akal Takht. Just yesterday you was telling everyone "Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji stated that at Sri Akal Thakat Sahib Ji decisions of truth will be made......" yet now you justify Bhevas violation of Hukumnama on the basis that Gravesend Gurdwara and other Gurdwara violate Hukumnama. Not only do you now have any idea about what has gone on but you have yet to justify your sadhs violation of the various Hukumnama highlighted earlier. Also still to get your response to the press release by Nanaksar (Rara Sahib) about Bheva. Come on tell us why Nanaksar issued that press released, why were they so irked by Bheva ? A Saint by definition is perfect. Are you telling us that Bheva is not perfect and follows the murukhs at Gravesend. Remember what Guru Gobind Singh Ji taught us about following the Hukum of Panj Singh ? Even Dhan Dhan Guru Gobind Singh Ji Maharaj followed the Hukum of Panj Singh. You telling me that your Sadh No.1 is exempt from following Akal Takht edicts issued by Panj Singh on the basis that every other Gurdwara in the world violates them ? Does not make very good reading if that is the justification used by a self titled Sant. Does Bheva not teach you to control the krodh and your tongue ? Tut tut would Mr Bheva (or should I say Saint Bheva No.1) be happy to learn that his Chela No.420 was using bad language to protect his charachter. Come on chela No.420 tell me when is bheva going to Canada ? >>With regards to Eating Meat i have one simple question: >>HOW CAN THE UNLAWFUL KILLING OF AN INNOCENT ANIMAL BE JUSTIFIED FOR ONES TASTE........??? In your own words "Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji stated that at Sri Akal Thakat Sahib Ji decisions of truth will be made......" so you should consider the Hukamnama issued in early 1980 by Jathedar Sandhu Singh Bhaura to be the truth and accept that meat eating is not the sin you and your sadh make it out to be.

>>Eating meat............what planet are you really on.......!!!!!!! Earlier in this thread you was telling us all about the truth coming from the Akal Takht. Rewind back to 1980 and accept the HUKUMNAMA on the meat issue. You either believe the truth comes from the Akal Takht or you dont. You are a bunch of two faced losers who miss-use not only the Akal Takth but the name of Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj to protect a sadh. How low can one stoop ? >>GET IT THROUGH YOUR DUMB HEAD........she is married to Saab the fool (ex gurvai), please answer for someone who has regarded another as her "brother" one year and the next they are married with a daugther nine months later............is she really in a position the criticise............lol There is more than one woman to have made allegations in India. Just shows you really do not have a clue. Also please comment on the Nanaksar press release on Bheva issued a while back. Was that also a conspiracy ? So when is Bheva going to Canada ? For two years chele of Bheva have been telling us about how he is going to tour Canada but this tour never materialises. GET IT THROUGH YOUR DUMB HEAD, two wrongs do not make a right so please accept that Bheva (and to satisfy you Gravesend Gurdwara Committee) have been violating Hukumnama. Stop hijacking the Akal Takht and more importantly the name of Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj to protect someone accused of serious crimes.

Still slandering the woman. Remember there are numerous other women who have submitted affadavits or you going to slander them all and paint them as having loose moral character. Check past threads and you will see I have said on more than one occasion that the only way to move forward on this is for Bheva to go to Canada. But as I would expect you and other Bheva chela have been saying for 2 years that he will go to Canada without any such tour materialising. So are you now saying that truth does not come from the Akal Takht as you put it so eloquently earlier in this thread. Your selectivity on what is and what is not the truth shows where you stand and makes a mockery of your earlier statements where you miss-used the name of Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj. Sad state of affairs when you have to miss use the name of Dhan Dhan Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj to defend Bheva. Not me going round in circles but more a case of you shutting your eyes and being mute when it comes to Hukumnama that your sadh has openly violated yet you want people to accept the Vedanti press release. Do you even understand the difference between a press release and a Hukumnama ? You say Bheva is a Sant. Yet you keep copmaring his actions with mere mortals at Gravesend Gurdwara. So are you finally accepting that Bheva is no better than the rather ordinary committee wale at Gravesend Gurdwara ? Your justification of Bheva violating Hukumnama on this basis is totally ludicrous. Do not tell me whether dharna are wrong or right, phone vedanti and ask him to do another press release so you can protect Bheva.

Bottom line is that you just do not have an answer. If that is the best response you can give then it shows that you do not have a clue about anything and your missuse of the name of Guru Hargobind to try and deflect flack from Bheva. How sad when you have to use the name of Dhan Dhan Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj in the context you did without any real thought or intention of obeying any real HUKUMNAMA issued from the Akal Takht. Of cause Sant should be in touch with Waheguru. Delve into the undelying meaning of the word Sant and you will understand that Sant are in touch with God. I refer to Bhagats and Guru Ji as Sant (as Gurbani teaches us) and not some chap with a dera in bheva who claims to be on the same level. So are the committee wale at Gravesend Gurdwara equal to Bheva ? Stop trying to deflect the attention away from Bheva and YOU by using the good name of Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji (this reminds of the 30lakh donation more than 2 decades after the events, always happy to use names of Shaheed to try and deflect attention from yourself and Bheva ). Bottom line is that you do not have a clue about the Akal Takht, Vedanti and Hukumnama, you get into semantics without thinking about anything just like world of big-ego did when he put up the original post. You fail to answer any questions and your limited response is like a playground response along the lines of xyz do it so bheva can do it. I think shooting yourself in the foot would be an understatement, more a case of you stepping on your own landmines. By missusing the good name of Dhan Dhan Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj and then going back on what you said (when it did not fit in with your sadhs actions) you have shown who you hold more dear and it certainly is not Guru Ji. Rather sad that you missused the name of Guru Ji to try and sell the Vedanti press release and then to backtrack and try to justify violations of Hukumnama by bheva when it came to real edicts issued by the Akal Takht. Now answer the question "If you think it is ok to violate Hukumnama and that Bheva agrees with this then please state this. If you and Bheva think that "...truth comes from the Akal Takht..." then stop making the usual excuses and start implementing the Hukumnama pronto. "

As they say you have shot yourself in the foot (LOL). Thanks for displaying your true regards for Hukumnama issued by the Akal Takht. Just yesterday you and other Bheva chele were telling us about how Guru Hargobind Ji had said the truth would come from the Akal Takht and pretending how dear you held decisions of the Akal Takht. Your non acceptance and meandering away from Hukumnama shows how dear you and other Bheva chele hold the Akal Takht. YOU EITHER ACCEPT EVERYTHING FROM THE AKAL TAKHT IS THE TRUTH AND ENFORCE THIS AT BHEVAS DERA or you carry on being selective and using the Akal Takht for your dirty ulterior motives (as you and worldof big-ego have been doing). Not me that has a problem with dharna but you and your bheva chela were harping on about the truth etc from the Akal Takht so as they say proof of the pudding is in the eating. Do not tell me what is right or wrong, follow the Akal Takht Hukumnama. If you think it is ok to violate Hukumnama and that Bheva agrees with this then please state this. If you and Bheva think that "...truth comes from the Akal Takht..." then stop making the usual excuses and start implementing the Hukumnama pronto. >>..........What about the Majoirty of Gurdwara Sahib throughout the World..........Huh....nearly every weekend there is 2 Sri Akhand Paths under one Palki Sahib........Gurdwara Sahibs throughout the UK yes Kurtas and the one in Gravesend also do this on a regular basis.............WHAT ABOUT THEM.....???? Brilliant statement but you forgot one thing, a Sant is meant to be one with Waheguru etc, as such should Bheva not be setting an example by following Hukumnama (issued by Panj Singh and we all know the significance of Panj Singh in Sikhi issuing a Hukum), rather than following Hukums he likes willy-nilly on the basis that Gravesend Gurdwara do something wrong so I must do mega violation of Hukumnama by undertaking 1313 Akhand Path. What difference is there between Gravesend Committe wale and Bheva ? I hope you are not saying the Gravesend Committee wale are all Sant, Brahmgiani 108 etc etc. Not me knit picking but you and world of big-ego. Very selective in following the dictates (eddicts) of the Akal Takht (which are violated by bheva) but telling the rest of us how a press release issued by Kangaroo court led by Vedanti (same man who has history of corruption and violating Hukumnama himself) is the be all and end all. H4rinder now stop beating around the bush and go get on with getting those Hukumnama implemented at the Bheva dera bearing in mind what you kept telling us about Guru Hargobind Ji Mahraj.

Still slandering the woman in Canada, hows that fit in with the inspirational teachings of Bheva ? Go on give your head and spread your propaganda to another place. If there is no truth why have the visits to Canada dried up ? Phone Bheva and ask him to go to Canada next week. Why is he so scared to visit. The Canadian justice system is well developed and if he is innocent then he has nothing to fear. The old tactic of diverting the topic will not work. I refer to Baba Ji as Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji. Baba Ji instructed and told people off prior to his shaheedi numerous times for calling him a Sant. It is out deep rooted respect to him and his deeds that I honour his repeated request for no one to call him a Sant or Brahmgiani. Why do you have a problem with that ? Is it because Bheva has the audacity to even use the Sant prefix on his passport ? Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji exhibited the facets of a Saint Sipahi. Which of these facets has Bheva exhibited ? Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji took pride in keeping fit which is an important part of Sikhi and was taught to the Panth by great Guru Ji like Guru Hargobind Ji, he educated the youth and drew attention to problems faced by Punjabis such as the water crisis, he led by example and was not scared to speak against the government, he was never interested in foreign tours as there are 1bn people to preach to in India. I do not see Bheva following the exemplary example set by the likes of Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji. For more than 20 years Bheva ignored the Shaheed parivaars and then when the going got a bit sticky for him he kindly donated 30lakh rupees (or somewhere in that region) to stop people questioning what he had done for the shaheed parivar (incidently this donation which made known to everyone by the dera publicity machine namely the likes of worldofbig-ego. We all know what side the bread is buttered on with Bheva and no matter what b/s you, and your band of dera followers write the writing is on the board and clear for all to see. >>Accpet it and move on.......simple!!!!! Accept what ? A poxy press release from Vedanti that holds as much weight as a rajiv gandhi ordered commission of enquiry into the 84 genocide ? NOW PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS. JUST YESTERDAY YOU AND YOUR DERA FOLLOWERS WERE GOING OUT YOUR WAY TO EDUCATE EVERYONE ABOUT ACCEPTING THE TRUTH ETC ETC FROM THE AKAL TAKHT AS INSTRUCTED BY GURU HARGOBIND JI. NOW PLEASE ANSWER THE QUESTIONS RAISED BY KHALSA FAUJ OR DOES BHEVA HAVE A MANDATE FROM GURU JI ALLOWING HIM TO FLOUT REAL HUKUMNAMAS (AS OPPOSED TO SHADY VEDANTI PRESS RELEASES) ? NOW HARINDER ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

...I think the chele forget about these small matters when they deceided to do PR about the rather vague press release which they were trying to pass off as a decision of the Akal Takht. Little did they know or understand about the parampara of the Akal Takht and how real decisions are made. They thought they could use the name of Dhan Dhan Guru Hargobind Ji to try and pass the press release off as a historic decision similar to the Hukumnama issued by the Akal Takht. Little did they know that people would question Bhevas ignorance and acts going against real Hukumnama such as singing dharna. I too would also like to know why Bheva fails to follow the TRUTH that has come out of the Akal Takht. Has Bheva got some sort of exemption from following the Hukumnama on Dhara and multiple Akhand Paths. The very fact that Vedanti visited the 1313 Akhand Paths shows his true worth as a Jathedar of the Akal Takht. This is the same Vedanti who earlier violated the Hukumnama on marriages at marriage palaces. Says it all when the like of H4rinder and co have to try and tell us that a Vedanti press release is actually worth anything.

Thats the video! I guess this is completely ok right? True Sants were people like SANT SIPAHI Jarnail Singh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale, who spoke the truth, and acted on it, this fake baba doesnt even look like he can move, so im sure he'll just talk. Just look at his face, he looks evil! Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji never needed fancy chariots and there are ample videos of him going out of his way to avoid people doing matha teyk to him. Such panthic gems are very rare and are happy to preach to the 1billion people in India rather than going on foreign $£ tours. They do not need police escorts and are happy to take action against the likes of the naraqtharis. How many of todays self titled sadhs have the backbone to speak out and take action against the pakhandi naraqis like ashutosh and piaroo ?

I have no issues with anyone and please get it into your head that VEDANTI never was and never will be the AKAL TAKHT. You may accept Badal appointments but I will not accept it and have very little time for sarkari jathedar like Vedanti. Why should I bring out a one liner. If the case goes to court all will be clear, just like when everything became transparent when dhanwant went to court. Easy peasy let Bheva go to Canada and then we can see the matter unfold for ourselves. I hope he goes soon as the Candian sangat are waiting to do his darshan. Karkoo may have seen only 1 sworn statement but there are others (not all limited to Canada). Regardless of your stance the Akal Takht Sahib has not cleared anyone. Vedanti may have done a lame press release but it is not the smoking gun you guys are painting it to be. Also seing how you and your fellow bheva chele have so deeply attached to Vedanti are you going to start following the Akal Takht Rehat Maryada and all it entails like Jhatka etc etc also the HUKUMNAMA which forbids the singing of dhara (you going to tell bheva to stop singing dharna ??). Stop trying to play clever games, it is easy to see how highly you regard the Akal Takht and all the past Hukumnama issued from the Akal Takht. You guys should stop being so selective when it comes to respecting decisions of the Akal Takht. I hope Bheva is not alligned to the group of sadhs who are against the Nanakshahi calander as Vedanti has said it is ok. Stop repeating things like a broken record player. Vedanti is not the Akal Takht, he has no moral authority to continue in his position (even prior to the bheva issue). Being cleared by a Vedanti gathering is akin to being cleared by a kangaroo court. This is the same Vedanti who thought chicago langoor was teaching a woman Kirtan in a motel room. Claiming a Vedanti kangaroo court is the highest court in Sikhi is a joke considering Vedantis past verdicts and history of taking backhanders. If you whole case rests on being cleared by Vedanti then that is one of the funniest things I have heard in a while. Nothing wrong with that video. Just a normal saturday night thing, get hundreds of garlands around your neck, ride a chariot, then sit and bless people. Most sadhs do similar things.

Follow the Akal Takht Rehat Maryada and everything is clear. As the veers on the bheva thread keep saying Dhan Guru Hargobind Ji told us the truth will come from the Akal Takht and the Rehat Maryada is pretty clear on the meat issue.

Have some sharam. He has not been cleared by the Akal Takht. He has been cleared by Vedanti and co. It does not take a genius to see what Vedantis background is and the backhanders he has taken in the past to clear people. Dhanwant the child rapist being a case in point, then there was the Sunny Deol film which he cleared after his cousin and others were given VIP treatment by the producers (including P Chadha who owns most the sharab teyke in Punjab). Well when he musters up the courage to travel to Canada we will see the truth come out. I have stated my punch line in multiple threads on this issue. If Bheva is found guilty then he can have his face blackened and ride on a donkey , if the bibi is found to have told lies then she can have her face blackened and ride a donkey. >>Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji said what ever comes out of the Shri Akal Thakt Sahib will be the truth!!!!!!!!!! and for all to obey So when are all the Sadhs going to start following the various Hukumnama passed by the Akal Takht. Has Bheva began to promote the Akal Takht Rehat Maryada ? Has he begun to follow the HUKUMNAMA (not a poxy press release) that states not to sing dharna ?

Yes the record is boring, especially the part where you constantly either ignore bheva going to Canada or claim he will go. This lie is repeated again and again. To date he has not travelled to Canada since the allegations broke. Easy way out let him travel to Canada. If he is found guilty then he goes on donkey if the women are found to be telling lies then they will have faces blackened. >>These so called bibiyan have been mumbling on for 2 years.....Is it still so unstable that a Court of Law hasnt acted upon the matter.....???? On the one hand you and your fellow chele play the nindya card yet on the other are happy to do slander of bhevas old bishti and bibia who have spoken against bheva. Why were you or your chele watching this lady ? You got nothing better to do ? If you are 100% certain about her charachter then lets see Bheva go to Canada and get justice. If the stability is on Bhevas side lets see him GO TO CANADA !!! Whats he scared of ? What Jathedar Nandagarh and co are saying differs greatly to what you and houseofhuge-ego is writing. Telephone him and ask him why his statements and others differ. The truth does always prevail. Just like it did after the Akal Takht had cleared Dhanwant (after Vedantis cousin took a 75,000 RS bribe). Chele of Dhanwant (just like you and house of big-ego) were dancing and giving out ladoo telling the rest of us how their sacha sant had been cleared. In this case they have not even cleared Bheva but issued a rather vague press release which holds as much weight as a Congress appointed commission into the 84 genocide.

How predictable that you and your merry band of bheva followers to post as usual with special intensity on such topics. Phone Nandagarh and ask him what was deceided. I guess you have not seen my signiture. The Akal Takht is supreme by the Jathedar has been rejected by most the Khalsa Panth and if you ever bother reading my signiture you will see how highly I regard Vedanti. Please get it into your brainwashed head that Vedanti has in the past cleared child rapists only for them to be found guilty in a court of law. So you can take a ouble dose of that medicine you want to dish out. >>Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji stated that at Sri Akal Thakat Sahib Ji decisions of truth will be made... Yes so come on give us your take on the Dhanwant episode. Did Vedanti ensure the truth came out ? Cut the predictable tripe H4rinder and tell us when bheva is going to Canada. I have said this in other topics on the same matter and I repeat it. Let him travel to Canada and lets see what happens as I have said before if the women are telling lies then they should have their faces blackened and paraded on donkeys. If Bheva is found guilty then the same goes for him (you could even be his donkey). But hey lets remain mute on the issue of him travelling to Canada and just keep repeating that he will go (just as his chele have been saying for the last few years).

Here is the lowdown and the Badal model for winning the SGPC. 1.Get hold of a few badamsh. 2. Ally yourself with drug barons 3. Link badmash with drug barons 4. Get hundreds of thousands of dodgy voters registered for the SGPC elections 5. Get badmash to give out free drugs to voters 6. To please the drug barons get one or two elected as MLA or SGPC member 7. Use SGPC funds as if it is your own pocket 8. To win any other elections use SGPC funds to open a college or hospital in the relevant constituency and get Badal to lay the foundation stone.

Yes come on WorldofGuruNanak (talk about having a huge ego by using the pavitar name of Dhan Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Ji Mahraj for the web site and his user name) lets see the Hukumnama. Stop telling us half truths, Vedanti and co made no such decision (Please get this into your brainwashed head). They have said it is a criminal matter so they will refrain from getting involved. This is in light of what happened in the Dhanwant case when Vedanti and co did get involved to clear Dhanwant only for the same 108 baba to get convivted and sentenced in a court of law for raping children. The best thing about this whle affair is that in late September Bheva was visiting the Takhts trying to build up support. Maybe he should commit himself to following the Akal Takht Rehat Maryada seeing as he has so much trust and faith in the Takhts. World of lies I suggest you phone Jathedar Vedanti and Jathedar Nandagarh and ask them exactly what decision was taken as what they are telling the rest of the world and what you are telling us differs greatly. The fact you are taking their silence as a sign of them clearing bheva shows how manipulative you are and dishonesty. These are not facets of Gursikhs. I guess if Bheva is innocent we can look forward to him travelling to Canada within the next month or so or maybe not as he will be subject to criminal proceedings once he lands on Canadian soil.

You sure those are brand new on ebay ? The PS2 used to have dodgy drives so I would not buy one off ebay. I would be inclined to get it in India, the retail boxes are same as in UK and they will not notice the difference. Maybe they think you will get them one of those cheapo Chinese consoles that have a hundred games or so on them. I have in the past bought items in India, put them in a Sainsburys or ASDA carrier bag and handed them to relatives. They thought what they had was from UK and were very pleased. I was also pleased as I saved a bit of money and managed to take things from the UK for my own house which I could not buy in India (eg a Stanley Claw Hammer). Some foreign things are better, for example hammer drills in the UK even the cheap ones are pretty decent compared to ones you get in India (nice metal body and not earthed so you can be electrocuted whilst doing some DIY). Even rawplugs are better in the UK.

Sad turn of events. Lets pray that SS Mann gets better. This is all down to the twat who masquerades as the Jathedar of the Akal Takht. For years he has let Badal and his coetrie get away with murder. The actions of Badal and his tatoo have stabbed our brothers in France and Denmark in the back. Earlier this year Mann and Badal followers were involved in knocking each others turbans off. At this point Vedanti should have put his foot down and said no more will political dimwits be allowed to organise or participate in religious functions. But no Vedanti does not have a spine so he did nothing. What does badal have on Vedanti that makes Vedanti into a coward ? Has he got a seedy video of Vedanti ?

I would just buy it over there. A brand new slim line modded one in Delhi (should be similar price in Punjab) could be had for between 6500 and 7000RS which is pretty cheap. I think an unmodded one in UK costs close to £100. They all come from the same factory but as with most things apne bande think foreign is better. If you are going to buy in UK then have a look at the deal Argos are currently doing with Buzz and Singstar and a black PS2 for £99. Add a battery or something cheap and your total will be over £100 and they will give you a £10 voucher. So a console and a few bits and pieves for about £90. Avoid the Harry Potter and extra controller deal, you can buy both these items for less than £20. The Singstar and Buzz thing is worth about £40 on ebay.

Probably some jumped up school kid who is admin and does not know difference between kirtan d/l and discussion of Haveli. I could understand if it was moved to the Fun section but I fail to see what it has to do with multimedia (besides the pictures Sunny has posted).

Sunny its not them being hospitabe by forcing you to have more food that I have a problem with. It is the way they used to stand over you to try and force you to eat quickly and get out as so many people were waiting to sit down. Sunny you ever tried the Chola Puria at the Amb Sweet Centre near your house, must be the worst looking and tasting food in Punjab, although their koya barfi is ok. To those that want pictures, the official web site has loads : http://www.haveliheritage.co.in

Xbox (not 360 but original) or PS2. Both can be modded easily. Thinking about you can pick up a modded PS2 or Xbox for about the same price it costs for a unmodded one in the UK plus you have the bonus of a warranty and you do not get hasled by customs in India who will pretend you have imported a super computer just to try and get some cash out of you. You can fill your boots with "backed" up games (which of cause you will destroy if you do not own the original) for both the Xbox and the PS2. Out the two I prefer the Xbox because you can do more with it (add a new HDD and install Xbox Media Centre etc etc). Games are about 75RS each from Palika Bazar not sure how much they are in Punjab. Avoid a fancy new 360 or Nintendo Wii. Not many "backed" up games for the 360 in India, not even in Palika Bazaar (Delhi), so the kids will have to go without games. Surge protectors are cheaper in India. You could get a big fancy voltage stabiliser for the whole house for a few thousand rupees. Or a simple one device one for a few hundred rupees, or the really cheap one which has replaceable fuses for 50/60RS (maybe less and a couple of rupees for the fuses).

Place is full of jumped up NRIs who act like heroes (especially the lo$ers from USA & Canada who dress like extras from a basketball movie) . The food is nothing wow. I could name more than a dozen places in Jalandhar which serve more tasty food. Dont know if things have improved but the waiters used to have a habbit of hovering over you to try and make you eat quickly as they needed to serve more people. Not been there for a while and do not have any plans to go. If you have not been and are used to eating at some $hity dhaba then you will think Haveli etc are the ultimate dhaba. But if you eat at many other places you will soon learn the food at Haveli is just average. The Rangila Punjab experience is different like the girl who brings you tray of sweets etc but the novelty soon wears off.

Yes he is seriously a real true GurSikh......NOT Reyat was convicted of manslaughter for the death of the two Japanese baggage handlers yet you think he is a true Gursikh ? Have you ever thought about the trauma the families of the two Japanese killed by his bomb have been through ? Reyat is just like the scum Punjab Police wale who went on the rampage killing our youth and raping our sisters in Punjab. So please do not build him into a hero, he has the blood on his hands and his participation in the bombing and killing of innocents is not compatible with Sikhi !!! What does that mean? Are you suggesting that the accussed should have been convicted? Why bother whispering and insinuating? If you have something worthy of consideration to add, please share it. well i dont think( if he was guilty) he did the rite thing of blowing innocents in a plane, and may i remind u sikhs were killed too. think of it in this way, do u really think guru gobind ji wud allow such a thing? if it was a plane full of the politicians that were involved with 84 then... :D Charges were brought for the wrong reasons including a culmination of political agendas, racism, media hype, bureaucratic group think, and corruption. Two men spent 4 years incarcerated and accused of mass murder simply because of media and cowboy hype in a country which claims to be known for it? One of the two is a total a%% (the one who was showboating about killing 50K Hindus at a conference in the 1980s), depsite him trying to play a big time charlie he hid in Canada and did not have the bottle to go to india. His and Parmars background and sudden wealth is questioned in the Soft Target book and it is time that those who quote sections of this book start to quote all the chapters about Parmers wealth etc. As they say there was something black in the dal. One of the idiots was happily taking loans form indian banks whilst advocating killing 50K Hindus. Why did a nationalised GOI bank advance him large loans and why did an "ardent" backer of Khalistan go to a GOI bank for loans ? Inderjeet Singh is a true gursikh. He was honest and lived a gursikhi lifestyle! Kurtas Singh jee, I think theirs alot more to this!! The CSIS had planted many bomb making material into his garden. One question that all ways comes to mind is: Why would the CSIS want to destroy all the intelligence? There is a lot more to this and I don't you should do nindiya. The truth will always be the truth! I cant really say much about Bagri and Palmer, what you said about them is totally true. What Bagri said about killing 50k Hindu was totally wrong, but u got to understand is his anger at that time, the GOI had attacked Harmander Sahib, Delhi Massacre and many Gursikhs were being killed in fake encounters. Sikhs were very emotional at that time! I dont really want to get into a fight with you Kurtas Singh, BUT out all the singhs, I have a LOT of respect for Bhai Sahib Inderjeet Singh and I hope we get justice!! This is not about fighting but thinking logically about what was done by these dirty a££holes masquerading as Gursikhs. Drop the old nindya thing, the tune is now worn out. It is very simple. Reyat makes bomb (I dont care who put the material there, if you have fertiliser in your garden you do not turn it into a fertiliser bomb do you ?), the same bomb kills 2 innocent people. This is not the action of a Sikh. Building bombs knowing full well the damage and destruction they can cause is the act of dirty low life scum terrorists not of GurSikhs. Please get this into your head and stop turning this dirty monster into some form of hero ! Yes there was anger, so what stopped Bagri going to Punjab and starting his murder spree. The man was a sellout intent on doing GOI dirty work by projecting Sikhs as blood thirsty killers. As for Malik and Palmar, their links with GOI etc are there for everyone to see. People try to make Palmar out as a real Panthic person yet Soft Target questions his sudden found wealth. Malik and his links with GOI Banking institutions is well known.

Yes he is seriously a real true GurSikh......NOT Reyat was convicted of manslaughter for the death of the two Japanese baggage handlers yet you think he is a true Gursikh ? Have you ever thought about the trauma the families of the two Japanese killed by his bomb have been through ? Reyat is just like the scum Punjab Police wale who went on the rampage killing our youth and raping our sisters in Punjab. So please do not build him into a hero, he has the blood on his hands and his participation in the bombing and killing of innocents is not compatible with Sikhi !!! What does that mean? Are you suggesting that the accussed should have been convicted? Why bother whispering and insinuating? If you have something worthy of consideration to add, please share it. well i dont think( if he was guilty) he did the rite thing of blowing innocents in a plane, and may i remind u sikhs were killed too. think of it in this way, do u really think guru gobind ji wud allow such a thing? if it was a plane full of the politicians that were involved with 84 then... :D Charges were brought for the wrong reasons including a culmination of political agendas, racism, media hype, bureaucratic group think, and corruption. Two men spent 4 years incarcerated and accused of mass murder simply because of media and cowboy hype in a country which claims to be known for it? One of the two is a total a%% (the one who was showboating about killing 50K Hindus at a conference in the 1980s), depsite him trying to play a big time charlie he hid in Canada and did not have the bottle to go to india. His and Parmars background and sudden wealth is questioned in the Soft Target book and it is time that those who quote sections of this book start to quote all the chapters about Parmers wealth etc. As they say there was something black in the dal. One of the idiots was happily taking loans form indian banks whilst advocating killing 50K Hindus. Why did a nationalised GOI bank advance him large loans and why did an "ardent" backer of Khalistan go to a GOI bank for loans ?