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you get naam dridh in every amrit sanchaar: the implanation of NAAM inside you. AKJ only offer a different method of simran which if you find some of the gupt mahapursh in Punjab anyway, namely one in rara sahib, i can not remember his name.. But he isnt one of the normal ones from there current background (with a fancy room n all sorts), jus a simple very into his bhagti type.. They will, when asking you how you should do simran as you have lack of concentration, also give you a similar style to that akj give.

Naam Dhridh is implantation of naam into ones body when taking amrit, apologies but i would have thought every amrit sanchaar would give you this, they may not tell you a particular style of doing simran, but would atleast put naam inside you when giving you amrit.

Saas Giraas, next topic before anyone claims thats what akj give you. Look it up in Bani, it means on every breath. That doesnt mean breath in, "wa" mis out the "he" then slur out "grr" again mising the 2 u's. IT MEANS, doing Simran, repeating Waheguru on each breath. Ie, breath in, breath out, say waheguru. Or, if you want to, breath in with va, hold the he breath out guru. funnily enough... our good friend niddar also shows that particular style.. jus gupt tho, (as in you say in your mind, you dont need to do out loud).

Further one, we got shown in india, was breath in, breath out - say "Wa", breath in, "he" breath out - say "guru".

If we all understand simple things of what it means to do simran and what naam is, we will not get confused and run here there and everywhere because someone tells us you only get naam from certain places. Think about it, if AKJ are the only ones to giv naam, then for the 200 something yrs before it started, who gave naam then?

Forgive me if i have made any mistakes, im not of brham giaan to inform what naam is, thats jus my understanding and seeing as the post is about wrestling, its the best advice on here.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

YES!

Hopefully the keertan will be available for download? Missed the day time... and didnt know it was on the net till late!!!!

probably find it on sikhi to the max

do you know what the rehatnaamaa starts with so that i can find it on sikhi to the max please?

Fateh Jee

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/Rehat.asp?Order=Alpha

Only one on the site

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

This post is going to offend people more then likely but then to be honest, so what, truth hurts.

Bhai Sahib put effort into keeping Sikhi and maryada in place, he follows the line of those Gursikhs who sacrificed what they had to protect maharaj and his house. THIS is a duty WE as SIKHS are ALL meant to be doing but we are not.

Funnily enough we never used to make the R4G protests when beadbi was being done then slowly slowly there has been an increase in numbers, but unfortunatly, at these protests now, the newer members prefer to take a new approach which can at times cause risk when communication with the police breaks down. This is for discussion another day and time..

Back to the point..

There is an £8000 fine to be paid off. £7500 in damages and £500 in court charges.

WHERE ARE THE SIKHS NOW.

I guarentee you, if this was a muslim who had to pay this fine off, it would be paid in hours or it being release by their community. lets set the scenario..

Muslim extremist stops disrepect to Mosque after discovering alcohol and non-halal meat being served on the premisis. He, and "x amount" of youth stormed the mosque and stoped this activity in a celebration of eid. He now faces £7500 fine and £500 court fees charge.

This is the islamic version to what happened in leamington on 12th november. A Benti would go out to the community to help pay this fine. Would be paid instantly.

WE as SIKHS! the people GURU GOBIND SINGH gave SUCH a HIGH Status! as Khalsa, cnt even help out own. Yet in his days (in human form) people from ALL religions would come to his darbaar and ask for help.

The hindus came to his father, Guru Teghbahadur Ji for help against the muslims. Did he help? YES. He sacrificed his life. When Guru Ji's head was taken off and an announcement does any sikh come forward to claim the head of their Guru, NO1 stepped forward (from the sikhs). By maharajs Kirpa, a brother from a different belief took the head and bought it to Guru Gobind Singh.

This seems the same now.. except we dont have any outside assistance from another religion.

Guru Ji blesses us with so much, we take it all for granted. Seriously. He gives us everything we have yet we cant spare a little for him. The seva Bhai sahib did was a Good Seva, despite what people think. What ever happend on the day was the will of Akaal Purakh, as ardaas was done before, so who are we to judge? Nobody.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji, the founder of the KHALSA, gives KHALSA a VERY high status, we do not deserve that same air to breath as the Khalsa does coz we are so crap in our sikhi compared to them. After Guru Ji moved on and Joti Jot passed to Guru Granth Sahib Ji, the Khalsa were his roop. They were the ones EVERYONE could turn to when they needed help.

Now, no1 can turn to the khalsa for help because there isnt ne left.. Not Khalsa, jus wona be's. As Sikhs of the Guru, we should be willing to HELP everyone, yet we cant even help our own.

Such a sad state of affairs yet we expect Guru Ji to help us in everything we do. No point in asking, we cant even help anyone, why should he help us?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Ek Onkar

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

A wireless network is has several stages of secuirty

1. hiding the name of the network - so you can only comnnect to it if you know its name

2. disabling dhcp - so you have to also know the network ip address range you can talk to and from.

3. MAC address list stating which network cards are allowed to connect to network - ever network card in world has its own mac number

4. encrypted password i.e wep 128 - long alphanumeric string password to connect to network

There are a few more but we wont go into them now. In order for you to connect to a private wifi network you will need to have a lot of time. which i have not got, plus i have never hacked anybodies router. Hope the info above helps sangat ji protect their own wifi networks.

Gurfatehji

"i have no name"

Fateh Ji,

Further to this.. there is a piece of software called airsnort... this is a brilliant tool for cracking WEP secure systems. Its a VERY tricky piece of software to use by the way..

May I SUGGEST to all sangat on here, if u use WEP, switch it to WPA encryption, else some cheecky person cud be sitting outside your house in a car using your net connection.

I ONLY know this as one of my trainers is an MCP in "ethicial hacking", in otherwords.. He is paid to hack for testing purposes to help secure networks...

WJKK WJKF.

Please print a copy and make photocopies and place in your local Gurdwara!!

Let the truth be known to all those who do not know how to use the internet!!!!

TheTruthAboutLeamington.pdf

Sangat Ji

Please note that when i posted earlier for donations, my intentions were via paypal so that addresses would not be disclosed.

If people would like to make donations then please again, contact me via this, or covkhalsa@gmail.com where we can agree details for paypal payment and then forward to Uncles fund.

Thanks

WJKK WJKF

the uk sangat are picking up the £7500 fine that has been put on bhai sahib jaswinder singh ubhi....contact bhai sahibs family if u want to contrinbute to the sewa....

the akaal purakh knows the truth....the local sangat know the truth....so leamington masands can say whattever they want....

If you do not have communication with the family, please email covkhalsa@gmail.com or the R4G campaign email address so that they can pass on details on to the family.

Bhai Sahib and his family have been through hard times over the past year and its kirpa maharaj has sorted it, hopefully we can all take an example from him and stand up when beadbi is happening.

Please may each person do ardaas and chaupi sahibs for the chardi kala of the panth now as you have seen the state of sikhi!! The pictures have shown it all!!!! Let us come together and bring Sikhi BACK to the way it was before the western culture took over

will naam direea be given at the amrit sanchar???

There is always Naam given in an amrit sanchaar. The name is WAHEGURU.

There was Amrit Sanchar yesterday at GNNSJ in Leeds, only one person took the Amrit.

125,000 took amrit at GNNSJ :TH:

DAMN!!! THATS MAHARAJ KIRPA! For each person in punjab cutting their kesh.. we seem to have 1 person take amrit here :D Khalsa Fauj is coming back!

i went to a cuzins and the bibi was shouting at grandson because he had brought a ready cut pagh but it was still big so he cut it to his normal size but the bibi was shouing because she said if u cut ready cut turban its bad luck i was just like wats the sangats views????????????

Jus a question before everyone keeps talkin bout the badluck issue and crap, i know its a waste of time but like did any one READ the post??

It says boy got shouted at BECAUSE he CUT a READY CUT pagh. Whats the difference??? its already cut?!?!?!?!

does anyone actually know which area the wedding took place in?

And are there any leads of the Gurdwara who organised this?? Typically if the git giani was was claiming the seva on behalf of the committe, he might have metioned it? U know, since they do love to be advertised!!

Bro the poster says Leicester...

The Advert in the post says coventry.. :D @

ne chance of modification???

2yrs ago - Behzti in december

1yr ago - Leamington have "diwalli party" in November

THIS YR - Kanjar film Maharaj beadbi and show it to the nation!

What are we gona let happen next yr? seems like we gona have an anniversary for each month of the yr in this country in 9yrs or so!!

Please admin if u could make this a sticky and sangat ji, join together now and lets tackle this problem!! We have to stop this Beadbi!! Its a MUST!!

PLEASE SANGAT JI!!

PASS THIS TO ALL YOUR CONTACTS!! IV SENT IT TO EVERYONE IN MY PHONEBOOK!!!! AND EMAIL LIST!!! PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO EVERYONE SO WE CAN FIND THE PEOPLE RESPONSIBLE!! SOMEONE MUST BE ABLE TO RECOGNISE THE GIANI OR IS FROM THE AREA OF THE COUPLE AND RECOGNISE THEM ????

THIS IS THE BIGGEST BESTI DONE TO US SINCE LEAMINGTON AND IT WAS SHOWN ON THE TV!!!!

PLEASE EVERYONE MAKE THE EFFORT TO FIND THE CULPRITS!

panj pyareh could even refuse you amrit

CAN

IMAGINE GURU GOBIND SINGH JI ON HIS WHITE HORSE WITH THE BAAJ ON HIS SHOULDER IN CGI !!!!!

Maharajs horse was blue, hence the name Neela. it was one of a kind.

errrm, yeah the phtographer just "happened" to be there and take his picture get real people, this picture has been released by the baba to help his image in india

and why not?

3 gursikhs die, and you can only think of how another one is doing something wrong when clearly just doing his own simran/bani while drying his kesh.

if you take that as a bad thing, take it that way. just keep views to yourself and not make a mountain out of something which isnt even a mole hill.

if you japped naam, or even read 1/10 of the bani he reads, you mite be lucky enough for maharaj to bless you with the brain to realise, people WASH there hair as part of REHIT and while its drying, they put a towel on the haid unles akj and put keski on due to their rehit. Its a COMMON thing in india for this practice. if you dont agree, then your choice.

if you have strong views, go to baba jis dera and speak to him about it, not comment on a forum which does nothing but nindiya.

:e: Does any 1 know where the original handwritten Guru Granth Sahib is located? :e:

I was told Adi Granth Sahib Ji (compiled by Guru Arjan Dev Ji) is located in Harmandir Sahib. On the right of the Akaal Takth (in the litle tower shaped building, think you have to go in n then walk down the stairs if my memory is correct...)

You not tried your local Gurdwara?

Where abouts in the UK are you from? Most of the Gurdwaras i have been to here, have a shop and you can pretty much get anything you want from there!! Failing that, just go to DTF website and they can supply you with pretty much everything you need.. (might cost a bit, but you get what you want)

Does your local Gurdwara have the marriage centre thing?

I know my local one does lol. I dont know how many others do to?

Many thanks!

Anyone else!?!?

ne one else?

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Sangat Ji

A Benti,

A few Singhs are trying to document the names of all the shaheeds in our history and if possible, a little bit about each one.

We have looked on the net and there is nothing really dedicated to this seva. A Singh is in the progress of making a calander for next yr, with this information on it so each day we can remember and learn who gave shaheedi. This is a project he has been wanting to do for a long time but never had the "go" to do it. Having now realised he wants to do this seva, i want to help him as much as i can therefore am asking for you help to complete what i think is a brilliant project.

Please sangat ji, can you help in this by posting the names and the dates of shaheeds, like the month and if possible, the date also. This is not just for modern shaheeds such as those from 84, but those after.

There are many shaheeds before this time to, we want their names and details, therefore please can you all help and email them and post them on this forum...

Hopefully admin will make this a sticky? A good way of doing parchaar to.

email, covkhalsa@gmail.com

or pm and post on this topic.

Thanks

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

i've had some questions about nihungs and jungs and it's really been bugging me for a long time....how do u join nihungs?? they are warriors but do u just go to where they live and become one of them??? lets say there's a jung, is there a center u go to to help fight the cause(i noe i sound like an <banned word filter activated>)??? would they turn u away if they saw u werent amrit shak??basically, if it was 1984 again, how would u help with the cause???im not starting no group so admin dont take this post the wrong way (it wud b stupid to do it on the net anyway lol), i just need answers...thanks

From what i know, to become nihang, first of all, you need to really clock the bani and simran, and i mean properly, when i spent time with these guys, they knew so much and i mean LOTS AND LOTS!! the Katha these guys would give is outstanding and the way they read bani is amazing! so you need to be doing that.

A nihang is also without hankar, so u need to do work on that aswel as controling the rest of the panj chor.

u can go to where they live but doesnt mean u become one, they wont just accept you, u have to earn their trust.

they prob wud turn u away coz if u want to fight for sikhi and are willing to die for it, then shudnt you be amritdhari? as in when you take amrit you give your head to maharaj and promise to die for him protecting sikhi and others. If you can not pledge this with Guru Ji, how can you fight for Sikhi? So yeh, guess they would turn you away.. Well not turn you away but say to you to take amrit neway..

If any of my responses are incorect then forgive me, i can only offer the advice that i have picked up since i have spent time with Singhs therefore it may not be accurate.

WJKK WJKF

No GuruJi will always smile in our direction no matter what we do, we just arent considered his Sikh untill we give Guru our head.

You say it in your own signature,

rahet pyari mujh ko, Sikh pyara nahe

The Sikh discipline is more valuable to me than a so called Sikh who has no rehat.

Anyone can "give their head" now days, just go any amritsanchar in the uk, or failing that just go to sgpc.

Guru Ji cares for the Rehit, if your rehit is pukha and good, then you are considered his Sikh.