Inqlabi

I never came here hating on any1, and as u can see from my posts i gave respect to my sikh dharmic brs. i haveen shocked by the Hate many sikhs here hav for hindus, which is wrong and unjustified. hwvr people like jassa, warrior gunman hsdh hav been great. peace

Who Hate Hindus in this forum ? Name please.

I think their is an alarming amount of christian related posts in this forum, posts need to be monitored before they are published.

Why ? I consider them as threat and our people should be aware of their activities.

Both Islam and Christianity are dangerous to world peace as both are competing with each other for converts . Vatican knows that their empire in west will end soon so they are preparing by increasing their number in India and China . In India they dont have much success but in China and korea they will dominate in 50 yrs .

These abrahmics malesh soon will cause world war.

New Crusaders from dragon countries against Jihadist .

Both these religions have pagan backgrounds which they always deny .

Inqlabi LOHRI is a HINDU festival, u have only wirtten half the story behind it, I will finish it off..

YOU said :

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We celebrate Lohri to remember Dulla Bhatti (Muslim) who used to protect girls from muguls -

HERE ARE THE FACTS:

Dullah Bhatti was from a large RAJPUT tribe, full of Hindus and Muslims (consisting of Bhattis and other rajputs).

Dullah Bhatti led an army of Hindus and muslims to rescue Hindu girls that had been kidnaped by Mughals from HISt tribe and were going to be raped and forcefully converted to Islam by Mughals.

To save the honour of his tribe, Dullah Bhatti raised an army of Hindus and Muslims to rescue these young HINDU girls, as he valued what was right over wrong, and the izzat of his tribe.

When he rescued them, he oversaw thier marriages to HINDU men,of the same tribe, and when these women had their first son, they put a red tilak on them, as a mark of being a HINDU, and a rajput warrior who would help defend the tribe, and had a huge celebration where they distributed rodhia, almonds and made saag with makhi di rotti etc and sang tributes to Dullah Bhatti, SO in essence it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with todays sikhs.

I agree it has nothing to do with Sikhs and neither Holi nor Diwali .

We have Hola Mohalla and Bhandi Chhorh diwas.

Buy ur logic this should be celebrated by only Rajputs even not by all Hindus .

But Muslims Rajputs dont celebrate this festival .

And i still say it has nothing to do Hindus either .

And Musicman even i provide great info so one appreciation for me too lol

If your going to do a thread about it, at least spell the word right its spelt Sanatan or Sanaatan!

Sanatan Dharma means the eternal/spiritual truth/path.

This has been around from the begining of time. The spirits reunification of with the eternal supreme power - known as Brahma Vsihnu Mahesh translated as the Generator Organsier Destroyer - GOD

I have nothing against Sanatan Sikhs or Sikhs like YOU. Whether Sikhs see themsevles as santan sikhs or just sikhs is neither here nor there, just love god and concerntrate on being a spiritual person

Just to be clear:

A HINDU is someone who follows the teachings of the VEDAS, UPANISHADS, AND BHAGVAD GITA, so NO Sikhs are not HIndus, I dont care whether they follow our festivals of LOHRI, RAKHRI, DIWALI or HOLI, unless they follow the great teachings of our Sacred texts - they are NOT HINDU!

Lohri is not a Hindu festival .

We celebrate Lohri to remember Dulla Bhatti (Muslim) who used to protect girls from muguls.

here we have a diatribe of rubbish written by Maxy Macuacliffe, it is this that shows the hate, one chappie held up as some sort of knowleageable person on Hinduism, dear me!! this Maxy clearly has no knowledge on Hinduism, and this causes problems, as people will defend their faiths against rubbish like the above.

Hinduism verse:

FACT!!,

any more lets us know what, will show more facts on sanatan dharma as responses to rubbish on Hinduism

Yes Mr Dogra truth is always rubbish specially when it is about Hinduism .

you dont want to accept the truth that mass killings which ur community has done.

How the hell is my post similar to those comments you have got off youtube, they are completely different.

Also this "Hinduvta" malarky, it just looks like some lil minority of Hindu radicals in some village in India, are you just jumping on the bandwagon and trying as hard as possible to link it to Sikhs to make it an issue? because that's how it looks like.

It has been many weeks since I have posted on this forum. As I have mentioned in my profile, I'm new to the Sikh faith. So instead of posting, I decided to read the posts and make a personal analysis of the Sikh faith. With little knowledge I have, I was hoping to find something promising to help me with my spiritual journey.

But seems to me, there is not much difference between the Sikh faith and many other main stream religions. There is so much hatred for other faiths being posted on this forum, especially Hindus and the paranoia built up relating to this.

I have discovered many on this forum are confused about their identity, the non-acceptance of your culture and the confusion between your faith and the western culture. Many of you on this forum are trying to make sense of an eastern philosophy with western thought. How can that be? The thought process s so far off, the difference within the two cultures is so vast.

I will conclude with something my mother says to me, Son you will not fully understand some of the ways we deal with things because you were not bought up in my culture.

Maybe this applies to many of you.

I was advised by a friend to join this forum for insight into the Sikh faith but, what I found was hatred.

I apologise if I have offended any one, I will not be posting anymore.

God bless and wish everyone finds what they are looking for.

My dear friend we are not haters but what we have faced genocides and its difficult to trust anyone now. If u want to know about Sikh spirituality please read other sections forums.

There is saying " Once Bitten twice shy" so we dont want to be get bitten again by Indians.

We talk about Hindus because we have been stabbed in front and back from our so called brothers .

We trusted them in 1947 when several promises were made to us like a Autonomious state but what we get they dont even recognised us as a seprate Relegion .

Even today we Sikhs face discrimination and Raceism from Hindus in their fake democracy called INDIA .

just go to Delhi & NCR ask any Hindu Landlord that would they give their house on rent to Sikh they will say NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

Many Hindus in this forum are born and brought up in West so they dont know whats happening in India . These people are so much brainwash that will not accept anything.

See this Documentary whats happening is dangerous because we know it is started as a fight back against Islam but it will soon target all minorities.

Sikhs were killed all over India not just Delhi as people say for 3 days and there was no police .

Muslims were killed for whole week with the help of police .

And what they did to Christians was worst of all for one month poor people were targeted .

Only god can save us from these Hindu Radicals.

I will not be surprised if to see a follower of Yogi Adityanath involved in the beadbi of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji in Pilibhit.

Pilibhit is in Eastern Uttar Pradesh and this area is another Gujrat in making . MP of this area is Varun Gandhi who once said

" I DONT NEED EVEN A SINGLE VOTE OF THESE KHALASTHANIS (Sikhs) AND PAKISTANIS (Muslims) "

I dont want to blame Hindus but this time i have a feeling there can be a hand of Hindu extremists .

I will soon post video in separate topic showing what exactly is going on in eastern U.P.

Aditya Yoginath is the leader of Hindu right wing in eastern U.P and he is incharge of famous Gorakh Nath Temple . This guy is mentor of Varun Gandhi and under his instruction Varun spread venom against Sikhs and Muslims .

We need our own militia now some say we have militia in the form of Nihungs but we all know many of them are good for nothing.

What Bhai Amrik Singh ji is doing should have been done by Nihungs.

I know Mr Musicman will say another anti Hindu post .

Amrik Singh Ji in gol pug looks like a warrior but in this patila shahi pug i dont get this feeling.

Gol pug is a real pug of SIkh warriors .

Yes, i was once approached buy a Christian in Delhi . He was a Punjabi Hindu by name but was practicing Christianity . He was always seen reading bible during breaks and discussing about Jesus with others . These Christians Missionaries have started targeting Rich Hindus and Sikhs and sad to say they have success to .

Thats why i always post on Christianity so that our people can counter them .

How many of our Pracharaks and Sant have gutts to expose the Christanity buy doing Katha .

Hindus sants do but we dont why ?

Lets organise a seminar to expose this jew cult on 25th Dec and we can invite many Rabbis .

Give ur inputs please.

http://wondersofpakistan.wordpress.com/2010/05/04/india-is-not-a-%E2%80%9Cnation%E2%80%9D-but-a-forced-union-of-several-warring-nations/

Inqlabi bro, congress is obviously more corrupt. We have a propaganda video made by Hazare's opponents (most probably congress), on one hand we have a man who is fighting against corruption which is a common threat to all the people of India. Forget that he is a Hindu for second and and pretend he is a Sikh/Buddhist/Christian/Muslim would you still be against him? just because the man happens to be a Hindu does not automatically make him a bad person. People in India regardless of religion are supporting his fight against corruption because it has absolutely NOTHING to do with Hinduism. If you lived in India you would probably know what a HUGE problem corruption is. Corruption affects everyone and everything in India. You cannot do anything in India without indulging in some form of corruption.

I am not opposing him because of his relegion but somethings need to be answered like why all his friends left him which were part of many anshan he did in Maharashtra ?

His NGO has some blacklisted type people .

From where he is getting money from ?

http://www.messiahtruth.com/response.html

For almost two thousand years, the Christian Church has taught that Jesus was crucified, died, and was resurrected three days later. This has long been one of the church's foundational beliefs, along with the virgin birth, atonement, and future second coming of Jesus. In the year 325 CE, Constantine (a non-baptized Pagan) convened the Council of Nicea to settle disputes in the Church. The council changed Jesus from man to God in the flesh, they changed the Sabbath from Saturday to Sunday, and the Passover was changed to Easter. Among the nearly 200 Gospels circulating in the first three hundred years of this era, the Catholic Church canonized only four. Origen, the great Catholic father, confirms this fact: "And not four Gospels, but very many, out of which these we have chosen."

A partial list of the different books considered by the Church for inclusion were a gospel written by Jesus’ own hand; letters and other correspondences written by Jesus; letters written by the "virgin" Mary; Pilate’s official report to the emperor of the trial and crucifixion of Jesus, with Pilate’s confession of faith; the reply to this from Tiberius, and the trial of Pilate; official documents of the Roman Senate about Jesus; Gospels, epistles, acts, by every single one of the twelve apostles; and official documents of church law and government, written in Greek by the apostles. In his book, Answering Christianity's Most Puzzling Questions, Christian apologist Richard Sisson states:

Paul and the writers of all four canonical Gospels described the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, as they understood it had happened. There is a acknowledged consensus among academic Christian theologians that:

• The Gospels of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were not written by Jesus' disciples but by a person or persons whose names are unknown.
  
• Neither Paul nor any of the Gospel writers had been an eyewitness to Jesus' ministry or death.
  
• The Gospels record the beliefs and memories of various Christian groups as they had evolved at the time they were written.

Their Hollow Inheritance: A Comprehensive Refutation of Christian Missionaries cites additional discrepancies. Matthew 1:20 and Luke 1:31 describe "angels" appearing to Jesus’ mother and her husband informing them of her forthcoming "immaculate conception" and "virgin birth" to the "Son of God," the "Messiah." When compared with the way Jesus’ family and neighbors treated him, it is absurd to believe that "angels" really visited them:

• Mark 3:21: Upon hearing of it, his family went out to seize him, for they said, "He is beside himself."

To offset the startling fact that Jesus’ family thought that he was insane, some New Testament editions replace "they" with "people," although "they" is in the original Greek text.

• John 7:5: For even his brothers did not believe in him.
  
• Luke 4:16: And Jesus came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and he went to the synagogue, as his custom was, on the Sabbath day…

There, Jesus hinted to his friends and neighbors that he was the Messiah, however:

• Luke 4:28: When they heard this, all in the synagogue were filled with wrath. And they rose up, and put him out of the city, and led him to the brow of the hill on which their city was built, that they might throw him down headlong.

How very strange it is, that during all the years in which Yeshu grew up with them, his brothers, friends, and neighbors did not notice that he was a "divine being." And could it have been that his parents forgot or didn’t tell anyone what they experienced? This stretches one’s imagination.

Origins of the Jesus Mythos

Christianity is based on the unique belief that Jesus was God's Son, born of a virgin, sacrificed for the Salvation of man. In reality, as sacrificed virgin-born Savior Son of God, Jesus was not unique. Not even close. The Jesus mythos simply followed the traditional model of the ancient pagan savior-gods. At the time of Jesus of Nazareth, as for centuries before, the Mediterranean world roiled with a happy diversity of creeds and rituals. Details varied according to location and culture, but the general outlines of these faiths were astonishingly similar. Roughly speaking the ancients' gods:

• Were born on or very near our Christmas Day
• Were born of a Virgin-Mother
• Were born in a Cave or Underground Chamber
• Led a life of toil for Mankind
• Were called by the names of Light-bringer, Healer, Mediator, Savior, Deliverer
• Were however vanquished by the Powers of Darkness
• And descended into Hell or the Underworld
• Rose again from the dead, and became the pioneers of mankind to the Heavenly world
• Founded Communions of Saints, and Churches into which disciples were received by Baptism
• Were commemorated by Eucharistic meals

Krishna was born of the virgin Devaki; the Savior Dionysus was born of the virgin Semele. Buddha too was born of a virgin, as were the Egyptian Horus and Osiris. The old Teutonic goddess Hertha was a virgin impregnated by the heavenly Spirit and bore a son. Scandinavian Frigga was impregnated by the All-Father Odin and bore Balder, the healer and savior of mankind.

Mithras was born in a cave, on December 25th, of a virgin mother. He came from heaven to be born as a man, to redeem men from their sin. He was know as "Savior," "Son of God," "Redeemer," and "Lamb of God." With twelve disciples he traveled far and wide as a teacher and illuminator of men. He was buried in a tomb from which he rose again from the dead -- an event celebrated yearly with much rejoicing. His followers kept the Sabbath holy, holding sacramental feasts in remembrance of Him. The sacred meal of bread and water, or bread and wine, was symbolic of the body and blood of the sacred bull.

The celebration of Christmas on December 25 was originally the pagan birthday of Mithras, the sun god, whose day of the week is still known as "Sunday." The halo of light which is usually shown surrounding the face of Jesus and Christian saints, is another concept taken from the sun god. The theme of temptation by a devil-like creature was also found in pagan mythology. In particular, the story of Jesus's temptation by Satan resembles the temptation of Osiris by the devil-god Set in Egyptian mythology.

The Source of the Original Gospels

Theologians have also observed for many decades that two of the synoptic gospels (Matthew and Luke) have many points of similarity. In fact, the writings have many dozens of phrases and sentences that are identical. This observation led to the theory that both gospels were based largely on an earlier document called "<a href="http://www.religioustolerance.org/gosp_q1.htm">Q" meaning "Quelle," which is German for "source," and is comprised of three distinct documents:

• Q1 described Jesus as a Jewish philosopher-teacher, written circa 50 CE.
  
• Q2 viewed Jesus as a Jewish apocalyptic prophet, written circa 60 CE.
  
• Q3 described Jesus as a near-deity who converses directly with God and Satan, written circa 70 CE during a time of great turmoil in Palestine.

The authors of the Gospels of Matthew (circa 80 CE) and Luke (circa 90 CE) wrote their books using text from Q, Mark and their own unique traditions. The author of the Gospel of Thomas also used portions of Q1 and Q2 in his writing, but seems to have been unaware of Q3. This gospel was widely circulated within the early Christian movement but did not make it into the Christian Scriptures.

Yeh because they see him as a big threat. Congress is full of corrupt individuals and they are doing whatever they can do de-stabalize Anna's anti-corruption movement. He has succeeded so far with the introduction of the Lokpal bill.

See the Video and decide who is more corrupt ? Anna or Congress.

Sadly we Sikhs don't have very knowledge of Abrahmic faiths specially Christanity and Jiddaism .

Son of virgin Marry lol

Son of God ? Then who we are ?

Died for our Sins ?

Means sacrifice himself strange, Sacrificing to please God is pakhand .

Therefore Jesus cant be even Bhagat .

There is no such thing called Hinduism as we all know meaning of this word Hindu .

This so called Hinduism is a grooup of many relegions like

1) Tribal Religion

2) Vaishnava

3) Shivaites

4) Tantra and etc

Inqlabi, I have knowledge in this area and will answer your question thus :

1. Sunyar - Mair Rajputs

Sehdev (meaning Sher) are Hindu Punjabis from the Sunyar ( goldsmith) sub caste and are Mair Rajput. They are one of the highest castes in Hinduism as they are RAJPUT, and are respected as Warrior Kings.

Dhunna, Shin, Bagga, Verma, Karwal, Kanda are all - Sunyars ( Goldsmith - sub caste) - Mair Rajputs ( Caste)

These peiople were described as among the tallest, fairest and well built in the whole of punjab by Ibbetson in his book the tribes and castes of the North western frontier ( 1855), the only difference between them and the Jat Sikhs as Ibbettson put it, was the fact that the Raputs were a little fairer and didnt have the hooked nose that many Jats do.

Ps the reason I say sub caste Sunyar is becasue over time when they lost there kingdoms, or when the need to fight was over these warrior kings ( Rajputs) used the gold they had for busienss and became known as Gold traders - Sunyars.

The Sunyar - Mair rajputs are spread out all over Punjab mainly in Jallandhar, Ludhiana, Patiala, Hoshiarpur, Jagrama, Nawanshahr, Amristsar

The majority of Hindu Punjabis in the UK, are from this caste or Brahmin caste.

2. The Khatris/ Aroras whether they be Hindu or Sikh are a VERY tight knit community, and inter marry freely, and do have sense of aloofness/big headedness about them, because they always brag about the sikh gurus being from their caste and the fact that they are very business minded and have a lot of money. They are mainly in Delhi.

I don't know much about the Khatri and Arore of Punjab but in Delhi these so called warriors are fake Punjabis . 90% of their young generation cant speak punjabi and thanks to these people punjabis have very bad image.

Sikhs say so much <banned word filter activated> against Brahmans but i have totally different experience , I found them intelligent and helpful people.

I was surprised to hear about Punjabi Hindu Rajputs as i know only Sikhs with these surnames . And i would i also like to inform you that Khatri puttars have problem with them too.

Punjabi Hindus minus Khatri/arore are great people lol.

Btw, calofornia , no the practice of mixed punjabi and sikh families is not dead in india or uk. We have very large hindu sikh rajput presence in uk and india, and are linked by blood ties and pyar. I also know of many sunyar, brahmin, jat mixed hindu sikh families. Now meeting a brahmin sikh, surname or ghotra CHIBBAR, was a shocker, lol as i didnt know they existed, but why not hey, ? Bhai mati das and sati das were brahmin caste, right?

Mati Das and Sati Das were khatris not brahmins. Making first son sikh has infact revived in areas like Delhi . There is a very famous Gurdwara Sahib called Baba Joravar Singh and Fateh Singh in Delhi in which many Hindu families have faith becasue of which they have started making their Sons Sikhs .

Most of these Hindus are punjabi Khatris and Aroras . I am not against any caste but personally i dont like these people, these khatris putters are anti Sikh types . I will always prefer a non khatri hindu then these khatris and Arore .

Hindu veer i have a question who are Sehdevs ? They called themself Mehr Rajput and also known sunyar . Their famous ghotr are Dhunna , Masoon and Sehdevs .

Please suggest exercises for reducing Thighs which can be done at home without using any tool.

Is crossbow a good option for home defense ?

I want to know their price and availability in ur contries specially in UK where gun laws are very strict compare to US.

Do our Akharas still teach Archery ?

Khalistani GunMan, you were given negative by RSS agents, I don't know why, I have given +ve to you; I am now 100% sure this forum is totally infiltrated by RSS agents, I am also quite confident who they are and time and again they give -ve to members propoagating Sikh interests in the true spirit.

Hey what about my ratings ? It has gone down when i called Sant Ji Shaheed .

Every time i talk to Muslims about Islam they will start talking angels specially Angel Gabriel who deliver the specific words of God recorded in Quran.

My question is did Gabriel existed ? We all know its just a story Hindus have devtas myths and Abrahmic Faiths have Angels myth .

When these fools will understand that all Angels things is just lie .

What u all think about it.