Hammertime007

Sounds like parnio illusion (vaam)

Muhammed Ali - Racist fool.

I hardley ever agree with his lot, but do with this stick to your own kind when it comes to marriage and relationships.

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I have to agree with the OP. My experience only - our women are letting the side down big time.

There was a wedding recently where there was a violation of Sri Akal Takt marayda. a Gora was marrying an apni in anand karaj at a Gurdwara that had already passed the resolution that only a Sikh will marry a Sikh. It was an "undercover" wedding, but singhs found out and there was a confrontation.

The girls mother, an punjabi born aunty, whos parents are keshdari, who is also a regular gurdwara goer said "you singhs are nothing, my daughter is marrying a GORA! and hes a SOLICITOR" and you lot are kachey pakeh.. meaning illegal immigrants.

The lads were all educated, mostly Gursikh uk born.

This is the Girls MOTHER.. and the daughter was shouting out "smelly singhs, call the police on them!!"

Even the girls dad and brothers seemed ashamed, didnt say a word.

I've seen it time and time again.. our bibiyan, mothers and daughters are letting the side down big time.

Even in india, theres areas of dehli where hindu guys brag about how easy sikh girls are, and they brag no "surd" (what these b*stard kachties call Sardars) marries a virgin.

By no stretch of the imagination would i say our brothers are in any way perfect. but ratio's speak for themselves.

Forget the Panth, or Sikhi.. most girls have ZERO loyalty to their own family. They will happily break evryones heart for abit of you know what.. its disgusting.

I read alot of books, social science, physiology, etc etc.. and we can sit here come to a billion conclusions of what needs to be done; parchar, social upbringing.. blah blah... bottom line for me is... there's no fear.

There was a time if a white girl walked into a pub with a black, they would both get lashed. Those days are gone, now what? 1000's of half caste babies to single mothers.

When singhs stand up and have zero tolerance on those that betray their koum as well as those that want to p*ss about with our sisters, then we will see change.

dandeh naal kum hoana - no other way

Some of the biggest and most famous critics of mixedmarriages are the ex boxer Muhammad Ali and Nick Griffin and I agree with them

Here’s a video of Muhammad Alis speech on mixed marriage andhe is bang on

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWwXYMGtBIA&feature=player_embedded

I have no problem with EDL.

I can understand why some Sikhs are wary of them, however allot of this is due propaganda from the so called Unite against Fascism, who are made up of Muslims Radicals, and extreme Communists.

There are some people in the EDL who may think all the brown people are the same, and they should be educated on the subject.

The major players in the EDL know the score.

One day the goreh are gonna get so <Edited> off wiv pakistanis and extremist Islam, they r gonna get militant, i just hope they dont take it out on da rest of us

I cant see that happening, it would have to happen at Government levelfirst. Britain being democratic and too Liberial for its own good are not likelyto get tough.

If you're talking about working class whites reaching boiling point then that won't happen either, not on mass scale anyway

These are not my words but of a white working class guy

"Most Working class whites are too in different too know there'seven a war on in the U.k they care toomuch about premiership and Britain's got talent they have been undereducated by the establishment"

Middle class white communists are causing real damage, they use their vote where allot white working classes don't, again not my words, but i agree.

My question is for U.K sangat , do Sikhs gangs exits or not ? If yes whats there relation with White Nationalists.

Gangs were 70s,80s and early 90s

Today is criminal organization with money on the mind.

Sikhs have organizations like the new S.P not a gang but a street movement witha message.

You wont get Sikh gangs unless is business and money related, our people are too middle class now and educated.

Some Jathabandies offer tribalism, but wouldn't term them gangs.

There are two types of gang's today hoody thieves or criminal organizations in suites who just want money.

The old gangs like Sp, donkies , C Crew, Zulu Warriors, Aston Panthers, were of 70s-80s gang culture its different now.

^^^

Tamil gangs have been more active in the last 10 years than Sikh gangs, Tamil gangs are not mugs, and are known for kidnappings and torture.

The Sikh gang scene in the last 10 years is business and money related which has led to fighting among Sikhs, with people presenting themselves as Godfather types. They don't care bout the community just money and business.

On the whole the channel is ok.

They need however to get rid of Upinder, and never allowoutside presenters on the channel.

the sevadars at Sikh Unit have done more seva for the panth than me u and most people on here

Fully agree they have got of their backside and worked with youth.

upinder is bogus

Thing im concerned about is what they are teaching our youth and them escalating mini problems into a wider war between Sikhs and Muslims. When I listen to their lyrics on their videos its all negative about how depressing lifes they have on council estates and how "pakis" are always hating on them trying to fight them, stealing our girls. That is pathetic it makes Sikhs look like clowns. Also their use of Sikh imagery while they are swearing and talking "street" what kind of impression does that leave to outsiders?

They need to fix up, I rate their awareness programs but they shouldnt publish material that will incite more violence and hate where innocent people in both communties can get hurt.

Depressing lives?

Pakis are always hating on them trying to fight them?

Council estates?

Stealing our girls?

This is what is out there and which is what I highlighted when you decided to say I'm a non Sikh making trouble.

The above points are probably an embarrassment to the middle classes and the Guardian readers,and to you but thats whats out there.

We need them.

They have the street knowledge and the tools which youngsters need.

You won't get by in the City being middle class, speaking posh and a left wing humanity lover, you will get ironed out.

They also speak the language of which youngster scan relate too, a youngster who have no Sikhi in the house is not going to be able under stand or relate to some old bag Bhai whose been in England for 5 years.

Sikh Unit knows what youngsters are going through the problems they face what threats they are under, again some 70 yr old Bhai from the local Gurdwara doesn't.

I also blame middle/upper class communist they should golive in the slums they created

Its all moaning poond

Jail the scum

He needs to be goaded out and shouldnt be doing the job he is.

Im not wacthing it till they sort themselves.

Sas are the only credable people ive sceen on their they can sort this tondar business out.

THIS IS A JOKE WE ARE A LAUGHING STOCK

Thank you for the warm welcome.

I agree completely. Unfortunately although the extremists may be small in number they normally shout the loudest. There are also those who want our communities to hate each other as it serves some of their own motives, both other Asian people, but also many white people (members of the EDL and BNP in particular).

I would rather stand with the EDL than you and have been to EDL meetings.

Bnp dont bother me and i dont bother them

Never trust them if you do, you will pay for it.

Oh dear ...........

upiinder asked a muslim youth at the scene to address the sikhsangat

audience... he told the muzza theres millions of viewers. the muslim youth

replied

"were muslims were here peacefully... bla bla.... and to the millions of

viewers watching, study the life of mohammed, islam is the one true faith...

say the shahada (declare ur self as a muslim)" at this, all the muslims in

his litte group yelled the islamic shahada ... some did it aggressivly. this is

what makes a muslim a muslim.

then he went on to say words to the affect of "i dont care about anythingelse i have nothing else to say, you can do a commercial or whatever

Not all Muslims are like that im not defending the idiots in their community but I personally know not ALL muslims are like that, and yes those things you stated are true but only true of those Muslims who are extremists. It's the extremists you have to be aware of! Dont target and tarnish all of the Muslim community, what you think they will think of Sikh when you kids are doing this on here.

And I want to know what steps you are taking to help these females you are complaining about? Are you creating youtube videos? are you creating blogs? are you getting sisters together and helping them police themselves? you are doing nothing but bashing the Muslim community for the actions of some daft muslim kids who probably are not religious but try to use and abuse non-muslim girls. You cant label all of one racial or religious community for the actions of a few, thats just illogical and uneducated.

I am individual not part of any group, I don't how to make you tube videos, or blogs

Obviously use the internet and computers but not on the media or videoside.

I have spoken to females over the past to warn them of Muslim males, even spoke to an English girl recently this is better than doinganything on the net.

Attended a few meeting and thrown my views in.

I can't change the world or our people but I do what can andwill continue to.

Our People are apathetic which is why we get chuthia . I know an ex-football hooligan/author; he recently said "white working class people are too interested in Britain's got talent and football to even knowthey are being oppressed"

Our people are they same they interested in bollywood andbrits Asia

Middle Class White Communist continue to give Muslims the freedom to exploit people and the country, they too are a threat, I doubt very much allot of people in our community know what a communist is, they are evil

You can call it what you want, but what I know of the Pakistani – Muslims can't be learnt over then net it via real life experience.

The Guy is a prat and is kissing Tondar Bond 24-7, embarrassingand a joke; it wouldn’t surprise me if he is an illegal immigrant.

So what do you propose Hammertime007? you complain day in day out and make yourself look like a child yet have not proposed anything to combat what you think is a big problem. Its all well and good talking about issues but we are tired of these kinda of comments, ever heard of the boy who cried wolf?

Let us see what you personally are doing to resolve this issue then you and members like you will be given credit for doing something positive for the community.

Don't mix with them unless you have too, don't do business with them unless there is anyone else, don't vote for their mps, don't be bracketed as Asian, don't be fooled by their sly ways.

The important things all non believers need to know:

1.Taqqyia – Lying to the non- believer

2.Ummah – They havetwo worlds the believer and the non believer and we all know where we are

3.Birardi – (Klan Loyalty) - They only help their own.

4. Our History withthem

5.The problems in this country for 30 years, with girl's conversion, sex abuse grooming etc.

Create awareness.

The above are only a few things from 32 years of living in inner city UK and experince of the Pakistani Community.

I first learnt about Islam from around 10 years old, back in 1988 and it wasnt in a RE class . And I will go back to what I always say you can never trust them, and they are a threat to us and other non believers.