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Bhai Mohan Singh on Rochdale Pakistani grooming gangs - Up most respect for Him

For a left wing Liberal he is very selective in who he stands up for, his own people don't even get a mention.

He speaks up Muslim prisoners in Guantanamo Bay but has nothing to say about political Sikh prisoners in India some of whom have served their time, some who haven't even been to court.

He speaks up for the human rights of Palestinians but has nothing to say on Delhi genocide of Sikhs in 1984.

He speaks against Sikh groups who have highlighted and fought Muslim grooming gangs yet has nothing to say about organised Pakistani grooming groups whose ,motivation is racial and religious when they select their victims.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/10/keighley-girl-raped-by-14-men-court-told there have been complaints that only the daily mail report pakistani groomers, well here's one from a left wing paper the Gurdian

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/child-rapist-flees-abroad-after-10859085 they should be highlighted and wil be, not from the daily mail, other papers do report this.

Published: 14:29, 8 February 2016 | Updated: 19:44, 8 February 2016

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^^ uaf is made up of middle class communists, who don't live in islamfied areas, uaf stand up for the very people who hate them. Then you have muslim radicals and Pakistani thugs who are part of the uaf.

Yea i listened to it, pathetic attitude frm these sullehh, i was embarassed for him. He wouldnt answer any of nihals/tommys questions, he looked like a right melt!

it showed the arrogance of these islamo-facists/Kaffirphobiics, I have heard singh from East London called.

Tommy Robinson was on the bbc asain network today ahead of the anti extremist march tommorw In birmingham. Nihal done ok, however a kaffirphobic called up and demonstrated racism.

Thing is, no on gets more attention for their gullan than Nihal because Sikhs (specifically from this very forum) themselves engage him like he is some arbitrator.

How the f**k did this geezer become some sort of main man when it comes to discussing Sikh issues in Britain??

That's what I want to know.

I mean he is obviously using a predictable reaction from certain Sikhs (towards certain sensitive issues) to try and make his show relevant. The fact that we are even discussing this tells us something......

Anyway, geezer, you never answered my question about tonday getting smacked up in B'ham? Here in London, with all the terrorism tension, sullay are holding it down a bit. A lot of the kick offs have died down because they are too busy trying to keep a low profile these days. Sullay openly using and abusing apneean has quietened down (though I'm sure it still goes on undercover). What's the kabra from your ends?

there were two recent clashes in East Midlands Leicester, where tunday where given a good hiding and one of the restraunts where the abuse was taking place smashed up. The singhs now are doing time.

With midland sikhs its the same with the rest of the country, Sikh youth are heavily out numbered by tunday big time. Tunday don't do one on one straightners, they drag all their cousin brothers freinds in. Our lot also think bout education and professions. There are some tuff sikh lads out there in the Midlands and can more than handle themselves against tunday but they use thumark first.

Bout 7 years ago they tried to groom and convert an amrithari girl, singhs went down and they were carrying, the 'tunday bhai' and tunday were beaten, this was well know in their community especially with the 'tunday bhai', none of them done anything. Other than that use thumark first create awareness look out for others, before anything else.

I'm not going to listen to it: can you give a synopsis of their reasons?

how can the bbc hold a debate where Sikhi is challenged and no educated sikh reply. Nihal is a music dj not a sikh scholar, this goes for any religion, it should be two way.

Thing is, if they get them young enough, and have sex with them, the girls form often form enduring bonds with them.

Plus, with a lot of girls in this situation, when other apnay call them out or try and advise them, they get even more excited and start feeling like Juliet out of Romeo and Juliet.

Bandha kee karay?

there's two types groomers radicals and Pakistani gangs who pass girls around to their cousins and freinds after making them dependent on drugs.

Any1 listen to nihals show 2day? It was about 'whether u should stay in the religion ur born into?'. Of course ex sikhs did their own behsti as usual, no suprises it was low IQ bandhari's.

il catch up with that later, did the ex sikhs convert to another religion, or just become atheist?

I've been told she was groomed from an early age so maybe we should change the approach.

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Muslims and multiculturalism don't work, they have two worlds the world of the believer and world of non believer, for multiculturalism to work you have to exclude them.

your defo proving your no sikh here, cos your logic has failed. You fail to spot the difference between an islamophobe and an actual racist.

You seem like sunny hundal undercover or one of his punjabi atheist minions. Very suspicious most your posts have been far left and always arguing against sikh issues.

that's true and your not the only one to be suspicious, he has previous logins like west London sikh and was very pro muzzy then. A very odd sod Friday he was fantsing over indra ghandi look a likes from wembley in the 1960s.

We're all 'liberal'. This is a fair minded liberal country. There is no place in this country for viscious racist facists like Tommy Robinson just as there is no place for neo-Islamic facists. Any 'Sikh' that supports a hate-filled facist bigot like Tommy Robinson is a self-loathing, gullible, easily manipulated ignorant fool. The kind of fools that don't even realise that their fathers, mothers, grandfathers and gandmothers built the great UK Sikh community we have today by physically fighting and destroying men like Tommy Robinson and the organisations they represent. To think that their sacrifices went in vain, only for the current generation like Hammertime and superkaur to turn around and spit on their bravery and fortitude by supporting these evil facists makes me feel incredibly incredibly sad.

..yes and you standing with very people who slaughtered Sikhs and sikh childrenin in india the muslmarrn. Your quick to pick up on brief racism that existed in the UK by small minority who have now gone , yet in avoid histological events that sikhs suffered from islamists the same pakis tommy robinson opposes . Tommy robinson and the edl are not facists they are the opposite of you they are anti islamists.

We should all stand with tommy robinson, he does more for Sikhs than sunny hundal.

It says he is a maoist who are Marxist communist types, they are atheist, yet he was saying he had Godly powers, strange?

23 years is simply not enough compared to what he has done, hopefully the real punishment will be dished out by other inmates who don't take kindly to nonce cases.http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-35443423

There is a particular dynamic between different ethnic groups that is maybe not the same in other parts of the country.

What makes the Birmingham/W.Midlands area unique in this instance?

that's true what you saying, and Pakistanis do the most damage to a harmonised multicultural society in the UK.

I remember watching a program about football hooligans. And I recall that the Birmingham City hooligans were called The Zulus. Normally, football hooligans are known to be white racist thugs but what was strange about the Zulus was that they were full of Irish and Blacks.

What was stranger was the Irish and the Black's used to go up and down the country to fight other hooligans who were mainly white English.

the birmingham city zulus are the UKs biggest multicultural football firm, there's alot of white English lads and Irish of spring, there's alot of the black lads who run the firm hence the name. However one the first multicultural football firms were pre zulu days and they also came from Birmingham it was the Villa c crew, this is the type of thing that shows racism never gained momentum in birmingham.

Ooh no, Hammertime007. You have no idea how the racism of Smethwick was so big that it not only made international headlines but was, single-hendedly, responsible for the enactment of the UK's first anti-discrimination laws.

You see, at that time, there was of course racism everywhere....partly because being racist against non-white people was not only perfectly acceptable and the norm among the masses but also perfectly acceptable according to the Law. In Smethwick however, the level of racism reached a level that made liberal thinkers and research academics realise that something must be done. In other words, if it wasn't for Smethwick, the Race Relations Act would never have come into existence. The catalyst was the 1964 by-election in Smethwick which has gone down in history as the most racist election campaign ever in British history. The politicians, the people (white people), the police and the local authorities all made it abundantly clear that they did not like or want any non-whites (in Smethwick's case that means Sikh as the Sikhs were overwhelmingly the non-whites of Smethwick). The level of racism was the worst that the UK had or has ever experienced. As the title of this thread states, the Sikhs of Smethwick did not take it lying down. They organised....they unified....they demonstrated...and they even reached out to America and the man who was, at that time, the international face of non-white rights and dignity. They reached out to Malcolm X and, to his great credit, he actually came.

Now, the important thing to note here is that today, many people on this very forum lament how the Sikhs are always demonstrating....always agitating....always fighting for their rights. What these people need to understand is that, from an historical point of view, this facet of the Sikh's character in contrast with the character of the Muslims, Hindus and blacks, has been responsible for so much that is now good in Britain. For example, when the UK had a racist party on the cusp of election victories (the National Front) it was the Sikhs who consigned them to the dustbin of history (Southall, April 1979). When this country had a massive youth movement that was based on the principle of beating and killing non-white people (skinheads) it was the Sikhs that consigned them to the dustbin of history (Southall, 1981).

We are, by very nature, so different to all the non-white groups that have ever made the UK their home. We need to remember how much we have acheived on behalf of every non-white person in the UK today. They won't know if we don't remember and teach our kids.

Not to say the others did nothing at all though because I often sit my son down and remind him how the middle aged Hindu Gujarati ladies of Wembley are legends when it comes to the working rights of all non-whites. The strength, unity and single-mindness that those auntia showed during the Grunwick Strike between 1976 and 1978 should always be saluted and remembered.

Handsworth was never an actual Sikh area. The Jamaicans always easily outnumbered the Punjabis and of the Punjabis, the majority were always ravidasias who classified themselves as Hindu rather than Sikh. To this day, whilst the eastern part closer to the city centre (lozells) is overwhelmingly Bangladeshi and Pakistani Muslim it is only the small suburban area of Handsworth Wood that has a Sikh feel in terms of residents.

Pakistanis have always outnumbered Sikhs in Birmingham by about 30 to 1, and their main community in places such as Balsall Heath is even older than the Sikh community of Smethwick.

Smethwick is not of birmingham it's Warley. Smethwick and handsworth are neighbouring are areas. Shere punjab came from handsworth the biggest on street sikh youth movement the UK will see. They battered the blacks at the freighted horse known as the carra to locals. Sp ran soho rd part of villa rd holyhead rd nearly all of Handsworth.lozells which is mainly Jamaican separates handsworth from aston. Aston has a big industrial history, the kynoch. Imi, gec employed thousands, aston is paki but the local pakis never worked there they couldn't handle it. Birmingham aluminum casting was a tough foundary in Smethwick where 100s of singhs worked, these singh made alkali dal birmingham, proper alkali old punjabi suba types, not like the current jokers. Congress were also running the main gurdwara in Smethwick round mid late 70s there were battered rd out by the singhs from said mentioned foundary. Racism in brum it never worked, alot of the white people in brummichum are of Irish background, the white English people themselves grow up in multicultural birmingham and mix with others. As for these gurjrati women from wembley you praise, if you want to praise these indra ghandi types in your home that's your business.