Hammertime007

Smethwick indeed is a big area for Sikhs, the foundarys in Smethwick are where sikh men worked. The heavy foundarys work was easy for them, as in punjab they weren't working with tools or great machinery on the farms of punjab. Though the foundarys of smethwick are tough there were machines and tools. The pakis couldn't do this type of work which Is why there were in Bradford working in the textile trade. Smethwick is next to handsworth, handsworth is a big sikh area and a tough manor. The Sikh youth of the 70-90s area more urban compared to smethwick . I'm not sure what malcom x saw, but myself with extensive knowledge of the area and experience can say racism doesn't work in birmingham, the NF didn't gain moment after the 1974 bombings, the rivers of blood speech was made on the edge of birmingham, but white brummies didn't want to know. The most racist people in birmingham are pakis, with their racially motivated sexual assaults, and kaffirphobia.

Never saw it, good link which one is the sell out scum one of the left or right, let this be a lesson never trust a tund-a

We have to tell them who are who we are not

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/fatal-hit-run-driver-speeding-10634979 they should be deported scum bags

Big time flop.

I wonder if the girl was an apnee?

she wouldn't be one his own. You can be sure it was a kaffir of some description. Kaffirphobia displayed again.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-hunting-two-women-who-punched-muslim-woman-and-kicked-her-off-london-bus-in-islamophobic-a6775081.html This confirms that we should inform people who we and who we are not.

I listened to the show, it was complete garbage.

Don singh gave good contribution

I don't want to run around saying 'I'm not Muslim! Please, I'm not Muslim!' because I'm scared of what some goray might think.

This isn't because I particularly care about Muslims but mainly because I don't want any white pr**ks dictating my life to the extent that they have me acting like a scared b1tch like that. Plus I don't see whitey like you do (you must be peasant), these mfa will stab us in our back as soon as it suits their purpose.

I have thought about being in the middle of some white ranting on public transport (it happened to my nephew once but he handled it nicely), and at that point I'd tell them I don't want to hear their ish because I'm Sikh.

The problem is with those people who are just hating for irrational reasons - I don't want to be running around after them. Screw them, let them hate us. The big question is why are you so petrified? Are you scared of having to fight goray?

not at all scared. Why should we be be dragged in to issues which are nothing to do with us, if muslims have issues with other communites and the other way around we should keep out of it. If it means telling people we are not muslim then so be it cos we are not muslim. The only time some muslims see as brothers is when their own community is under scrutiny. you have a misconception. I believe the panth comes first not anti muslim groups, our very own librials do most of the damage on this subject. Put the panth first, what ever other communites want to do with their issues with one another is up to them. There's nothing wrong with telling people who we are and who are not.

Wheaguru ji ka khalsa Wheguru ji ke fateh. It's clear we have some people in our own community, who won't say they are not muslim as they feel they would be directing hate towards muslims! So what do they want? People to hate us for no reason? This has triggered the debate http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/san-bernardino-shooting/white-house-holds-meeting-muslims-sikhs-n479896

I have seen multiculturalism work, it was in 1980s and very early 90s. In those days the main immigrants were west Indians, Bangladeshis, Indians; both sikhs and hindus and a reasonable number of Pakistanis.for multiculturalism to work we have to go back to the racial demographics of the 80s and very early 90.

multiculturalism and integration is broken in the UK. It's been replaced with segregation and hate (though segregation is better than war) It's not just muslim gettos, Wembley looks like a 3rd world slum getto from Mumbai or dehli, have you seen the state of the non sikh indian people there. The last 3 major riots in the UK were all race related, 2001 pakistani youth in Oldham, 2005 pakistanis v blacks birmingham, 2010 various blacks types and some muslims rioting and looting over the UK. Sikhs have every right to complian we are the best example of immigration and integration, if we wanted to live in the 3rd we would have stayed in india

3HO and Yb aren't my cup of tea. However some white Sikhs have broke away from the cult and follow orthodox Sikhi, there's two white nihungs I've seen one is an excellent kirtani.there maybe others like this too who have broke away.

Muslamic?

Payback on islam?

Islamophobic much? Totally in line with sikhi

kaffirphobia is very old, islamfiaphobia is a new term coined up by middle class librials, and so called anti fascists.

White Sikhs of USA play a big in bringing awareness of who the sikhs are and who we are not. Keeping us out civil clashes is a must. from what I've seen they have been pretty silent unless someone knows Different.

Not me and a lot of people I know. We're clued up. A lot of us here have liaised with good guys from your end, Bush etc. No need to broadcast it everywhere (you should know bare MI5, London MET etc. monitoring this site) but we were schooled a long time ago. Did a lot of parchaar about the issue back in the late 90s in universities when most of the community (and the authorities, and the media) turned against us. Guys made a lot of sacrifices. I don't know how you can make out like one part of England (i.e. the south) is any worse than any other (i.e. the north), looks like the same sh1te going on everywhere to me. And I'm old enough to remember when the original fundos came to East London and started mass brainwashing paks - they all came from or learned their ideas from up North. Your neck of the woods is where it all stemmed from. Especially with 'conferences'. There used to be much older Panther boys from B'ham hiding out here when I was a kid.

The apathy you talk about is not the consequence of left wing or right wing by the way, it's the natural consequence of subtly pushing a secularist agenda, which both right and left wing here do. None of them want to see us strong. The right wing specifically just want to use us to fight their battles and as propaganda tools to hide their racism. None of them are our friends.

Wake up.

grooming and conversion of sikh girls by pakistani men has been going in birmingham since the late 70s. The aston Panthers only came to light for grooming and conversion as they were the first organised group with a name and done this under a banner .the other reason they came to light is cos the resistance came from neighbouring handsworth. I am not against multiculturalism I saw it work once in the UK but muslims and multiculturalism don't work, they have to be excluded from it. They have two worlds the world of the believer and world of the non believer, so how can they get along in a multicultural society.

And all the apnay up north and in the midlands have provided a fine example of how not to let an area become sullafied in your mind yeah?

But anyway, about my point that you personally might be particularly vulnerable to media and other propaganda. Actually, let's take you personally out of the picture -

Do you get the idea of certain people being more easy to manipulate than others because of how they naturally are?

There hasn't been much resistance to the Islamfication of the the North or Midlands by any one let alone Sikhs. On average the whole of the country is semi Isalamified, some parts of Birmingham London, Manchester, Bradford Leeds Burnley, Oldham are fully Islamfied. The politicians and liberals allow it.

Till the mid 90s there were parts of the country where Sikhs Lived which were proud working class British Sikh areas.

Southall - ruined by Somilains, iraqis

Handsworth ruined by Kurds, iraqis, and Pakistanis who moved in mid 90s

Smethwick - Still better than most and white people still there along side Sikhs

West brom same as Smethwick

Wolverhampton Same as Smethwick

Even Small heath which had alot Pakistanis in has been ruined by Somalians.

Wembely not a Sikh areas but ruined Sri lankens and south Indians

You need to look at whose manipulating you, the left wing liberals, i notice London Sikhs are not clued up and very apathetic to organised conversion of Sikh Girls to Islam in Uk. Those certain people who have created your apathy are the left wing liberal especially the middle class one, .

Ok, so your momma allowed you out to see a football match 26 years ago. That's good man.

I got to say, that specific time you came was probably one on the most tense periods in the area. The new generation of asians were proper in the thick of finally fighting back against whites and blacks, when the majority of the older (first) generation would avoid this. Given that, I can understand your perception of the manor. But seriously, if you were to visit East London today, you wouldn't recognise it. It's nothing like the place I grew up in these days.

What you witnessed is long over.

I can also be let out to see your sister, as you have taken a personal tone it would only be right to speak to you as you speak with others . The area will be finished and finally handed to the locals as west ham are moving.

Jeez Hammertime, all the places you've mentioned in the East End are places I go to all the time.

Your perception of the area could not be more skewed. I tell you when the East End WAS really dangerous: in the 70s and 80s, when you'd be highly likely to get paki-bashed by a crew of goray just walking down the street. Granted, like most poorer areas you do get typical trouble expected with poorer demographics but the East End is probably the safest place for brown people in the whole of London now.

Ask your momma to let you leave the house now and then bro.

Tell you what I worry about. Donald Trump as president. This guy seems even more retarded than Bush, and that's not something that is easily achievable.

I get out plenty, I remember going to a league cup game at Upton Park in 1989 v Villa , I recall seeing many local asains who mainly pakistanis and Bangladeshis. I also remember seeing blacks youths, the same black youths were in the ground the local asains were not, they don't integrate they just create gettos. These racists you talk of alot were from the council houses of Essex. Can any East Londoner call themselves a true racist? Alot of the white kids were of Irish background, they also grew up in multicultural London.

^^ the only reason I mentioned London is because Boris Johnson was one of the first to speak against dts comments, so it's only right he goes and lives with the people he is standing up for, send him to Upton Park and I don't mean to watch west ham United.....thats not to say dts comments don't apply to London

http://www.financialexpress.com/article/world-news/california-shooting-gurdwara-vandalized-in-la-with-anti-islamic-state-graffiti/176363/

If there was ever a time to tell the world who we ARE and who we NOT. Its now, we cant wait for other people to do this only we can, why should we suffer for other nations who are at conflict with each other and mistaken i.d

One of the so called Hippsters receiving a warm welcome from Brick Lane Locals.

Hammertime, Whitechapel's been the same for hundreds of years. If you read newspaper archives from the late 1800's and early 1900's you'll see there were people just like you writing in saying how "they feel like a stranger in their own land.......how there is no 'British' person to be seen......only swarthy looking Jews with beards". Nothing changes. Everything always remains the same. There has always been and there always will be , people with an irattional fear of others that look different to them. What you want to do though, is sit and down and analyse if you really want to belong to that sorry group of people ?

As for Brick Lane. It is London's hipster central. Jam-packed with white artist types. Jam packed.

As for your 'sharia law' video: Well, those delinquents did it once. Those delinquents were identified and those delinquents were arrested. You do not want to go through life having an irrational fear of everything you've ever seen on you tube. Once, I saw, for example, a video on you tube of a bat flying down and biting a woman on the head as she was walking down the street. That didn't convince me that it happens everyday.

hipsters? You mean middle class communist students? Who will stay around brick lane for their student life to absorbe 3rd world culture, then after graduation go back to the shires of England where they live. Bearded jews in white chapel so what? Did they blow up the London underground? Have they got hate preachers all around London, speaking publicly and recruiting? Are they of to Syria (if one wants to go Syria they can as long they don't return to uk) are bearded jews grooming sikh girls in the UK? Go and live in the dump you have created and live with the very people who call you kaffir and sikhrar.

Here's a video of white chapel on a typical Saturday afternoon, the only white person I see is a white convert with Abu bara telling pakis not to votehttps://youtu.be/gOPdENYf4gs

I go there all the time with no problem. Plenty of white people and police there too.

You don't get out much do you?

Anjem chourdary and his group are usually out side Whitechapel station, great ad for London