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Nice work Khalsa Ji , thank you.
Waheguru
even though your translation are way better thank you
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Here is the english translation of Karam Nirna by Bhai Daya Singh Ji from Gur Pratap Suraj Granth Bhai Santokh Singh Ji
Punjabi translation of the whole granth http://www.gurmatvee....com/literature
also Katha of this whole prasang by Giani Thakur Singh Ji http://www.gurmatveechar.com/audio
Bhai Daya Singh Ji explains Karam Nirna
Dohara- Everyday singhs sat and listened to Guru Ji teach.
Now singhs listened about bhakti devotion with there whole mind 1
Chuapi- With folded hands the sikhs said, a person is stuck in bhanak
fearful karams works, by what karams works we can do to save oursleves 2
Guru Ji spoke and said Bhai Daya Singh is my form,
ask him any question and he will answer them. 3
After saying this Guru Ji left, everyone remained sitting and
turned their attention toward this task (to what karams can save us)
Then Bhai Daya Singh Spoke and said 4
Guru Sahib is all knowing, im nothing in front of him.
I will speak how he wants me too, like a (putli) puppet does. 5
Like a puppetier, Guru Ji will speak through me but people will think
i am speaking. First listen to the story of (karam gatha) work by which
a person gets either heaven or hell. 6
There are three different kinds of karams works Kiraman,
Sanchit and Paralabad. Inside the Anthakarn (mind) there
are three types of karams baans 7
Giani Ji says -in order the karams are Kiraman Sanchit then Paralabad because of poetry they are written in different order.
Anthekarn (mind) is the combination of Man Budh Chit and Ahankar.
1 Chitan Atama's reflecation causes 2 Anthekarn.
3 with agyan ansh, some karams are left over that we did before 8
Anthekarn is nothing by itself. With the power of chitan
consciousness it works. No karams can be done without chitan. 9
Giani Ji says like a solar car cannot work without the sun Anthekaran cannot work without the Chitan of God.
Giani Ji says Anthekaran is like a rock it cant do anything by it self.
Anthekarn is the (man) mind. With agyian it can do a karam without it cant. 10
Dohara- First is Anthekarn(man) second agyian third is chitan atam.
When these three meet a karam can be done. Without one of these
three nothing will happen, a karam cannot be done. 11
The mind has four parts-man budh chit Ahankar.
Giani Ji says a man is known to his wife as a husband, father to his children, passenger to a bus driver and a crimmanl to the law if he does anything wrong. Even though there is one man he is known by different names he still is one person. That is how the (Man) mind is.
Anthekarn (mind)=Man budh chit Ahankar
snkalp and wakalp-Man
when the mind says there is no God-budhi
thinks-chit
ego, i am=Ahankar
Chaupi- I will tell you with a example, how these things are.
If Satgun is (meeti) dirt then Anthekaran is the dhela. 12
Atamchitan is the (akash) ether, sky and agyain is the water.
When dirt and water are brought together then a vassel, clay
pot can be made. 13
Giani Ji says there are four types of ethers, sky:
matta kash- is the space under the ceiling
ghatta kash- space inside a vessel, pot, container
meega kash- space under the clouds
chitaddha kash- is the highest, it is even in dasam dwar, the tenth gate.
Inside a vassel, clay pot there is (akash) ether,sky. Then the vessel is filled
with (anaaj) seed of our karams. When these three are together they are
able to fix the (ghatta akash). Then something can be put in the vessel. 14
When you have dirt and water a clay pot can be made then you have something to put your stuff in.
If these three are by themselves they dont have the power to do anything to
do a karam Then theres the (atama) soul it cant do anything by itself.
(without the body) 15
Giani Ji says the Atama soul is like a engine. A engine by it self cant do anything
unless you have tires, brakes, body frame and all the rest of the stuff a car needs to run.
Anthekaran mind cant work by itself. Without agyain a karam doesnt happen.
When these three meet then a karam can be done. 16
because of Paralabad past actions we got our body. In our many (janam) lives
we have piled them up. All the karam we did in the past lives (kiraman) are inside
of us now in the form of Sanchit. 20
Actions done everyday in ego are known as (kiraman karam). Kiraman kiram
has three parts to it. 21
The first stage is kiraman, second is sanchit. On the third stage it becomes prarbad. 22
Giani Ji uses the example if you put your money in the bank everyday kiraman after a month with interest you get more money sanchit after five years with all the interest you will get even more money prarbad.
For instance theres the future (bavikat kal) then the Present (Bratman) Then theres
the past (bhoot kal). Now listen to this Khalsa Jeo: 23
Prarbad has three awards: (Jaat) human devta (aarbal) age (bog) pain or happiness.
Prarbad determines if your going to be a devta or human or a moutain,cloud. 24
All of them have (nana) many parts. This is how (jaat) human or devta life is determined.
How long you live and how old you will be. 25
pain or pleasure how long you live if you will be beautiful or not is determined by prarbad.
The scholars say this is called (bog padarth) In the 14 (loks) worlds they are living out there prarbad. 26.
sanchit and kiraman are not done by a (atam giani) knower
of the soul. An arrow can be stopped from shoting. ie karams
can be stopped by not doing them 27
Like when a arrow is shot it cant be stopped a prarbad karam cant be stopped when
its going to happen. a giani and agiani have the same kiranam and sachit karam.
They both will get equal prarbad. 28
Dohara-A giani knower of the soul can destroy a sanchit karam.
Like a store house with everything in it can be destoyed by liting it on fire. 29
Even though you will reconze the seeds that got burned in the storehouse. When you
plant them they wont grow. 30
Choupai- Sanchit karam that are in anthekaran. A Bhram gyani with
gyan agani destories them.They wont bear any fruit. The whole store
house is destroyed. 31
This is how Anthkarn are destroyed. Then the chit becomes (sat) True
and state of peace comes. Chit sat means: Anthkaran is like 32
There appearence is (Asanmk). The Atama soul inside the budhi becomes anatam.
Atama soul is True: everything else is false. 33
Asanmk-example is even though God is everywhere we dont see him.
This is called (man) mind. When you get Atam Gyan then you will reaconze
what is true and what is not. 34
indree-man-budhi-atam
When the chit becomes (sat) True. Then sanchit with the
mind gets burned like when the storehouse got burned.
Then it wont be capable of doing anything bad. 35
Bram gyani doesn't do kariman, because he isn't doing
anything out of ego. 36
The actions we do with ego becomes kiraman then they turn
into sanchit then Paralabad. 37
When prarbad becomes kiraman. For instance when we eat,
we get energy. 38.
Now reconzile the form of kiraman. When a person who is in bad
health is given something to eat he gets worse. The health gets
bad. Listen to the understanding. 39
Actions done in ego will bear fruit. A Gyani knower of the soul doent
have ego or get tangled up. 40
This necklece of karams is around everybodes neck, how can we get rid
of it. Without letting go of the necklece there will be (Kalash) pain and rebirths. 41
Satguru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj says it over and over again. 42
ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਇਆ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਗਇਆ ॥
In ego they come, and in ego they go.
ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਜੰਮਿਆ ਹਉ ਵਿਚਿ ਮੁਆ ॥
In ego they are born, and in ego they die.
There are many many more examples in Guru Granth Sahib Ji
not to walk in (hankar) ego. Everyone is in ego and suffering
by being in (dukh) pain and regretting. 43
Countless births are in ego and are in alot of pain. The body is
born out of ego. 44
The person with the Grace of Guru Ji gets rid of the ego and gets
the true understaning and no more birth or death comes to him. 45
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1 please ask if Jesus is God like christians claim. Also are Jesus and Muhammad both in sachkhand.
2. Also can you ask Baba Ji to do Simran for one minute and ask how he does it.
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Can we all worry about saving this Saroop instead of fighting. If any of you dont trust the orgainsation donate directly at the university. I hope we dont miss a chance to save a purtan saroop.
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I wanted to bring this to the sangats attention.
One of the oldest Guru Granth Sahib Ji needs preserving its going to cost total 35,000 with digitzing it. Year: 1730 to 1750
one of the main features of the Saroop is it contains
Puraatan maryada in relation to the Akhand Path Sahib of Guru Granth Sahib Ji is also exhibited within this Saroop, {symbols drawn from saffron a bhog ceremony which has since been abondoned} of which more research will be forthcoming.
a list of all ingredients used in preparing the ink {shai viddi} which the scribes have used, an usual feature for puraatan granths..
Following this report the Sri Guru Granth Sahib has been examined and evaluated by our head scholar Giani Rann Singh ji head Giani Of Sant Samaaj and Tarnadal. It has been established that this is infact is a complete Saroop of Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji and it is believed to be aproximatley 250 to 270 years old.
Please visit this website if you want to donate
http://5culture.org/...anth/4562564000
http://www.saints-uk...id=13&Itemid=12
mods can you please pin this until the donations are raised. This will benefit the Sikh Panth.
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are you saying they were from the devtes or they werent?
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By Bhai Sahib Bhai Veer Singh Ji
Loving Longing To Be One With The Creator
by Bhai Sewa Singh Ji Tarmala
Volume 1
Question and Answer
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Heres the last part
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Bhia Jarnail Singh Author of the book "I Accuse" giving a powerful leture please listen and pass it on.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3
Part 4
Part 5
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this video of a Nihang Singh saying the each of the 5ks came from a hindu devtas. Like Khes from vishnu, sword from devi and khachera from hanuman. Almost every purtan granth mentioning the 5ks says it came from a hindu devta. what is the orthodox view on this and how would we respond with texts of our own saying they werent from devtas.
Nihang Baba Balli Singh Ji
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thanks bhia Sahib listening to it right now. thanks again
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They have a budget of millions of crores do they get there money by the Gurdwares they control and if so do the Gurdwaras give a certain percent to the SGPC.
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wow the book has alot of powerful images, it will be easier to show these images to get peoples attention. We have to get it right it is a Holocaust not a riot.
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Thanks guys, I am also thinking about making a website, there are many illustrating differences between Sikhs and other faiths but other then personal experiences of ex christians nothing.
This book is great in comparing Sikhi and Christianity it deals with the concept of God, Sin, Soul, Angels and many others http://www.globalsik...hristianity.pdf
Also theres more great books on this site comparing Islam and science and Sikhi. http://www.globalsikhstudies.net/menu/other_gssidhu.htm
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(but I have private tapes of Sant Isher singh telling a few people how to achieve this)
Would you please share these tapes with the sangat.
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Im looking for this Shabad
Bhagat Vaada Raja Janak Hai by Bhai Balbir Singh Ji
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Here is the second instalment of Santhya Guru Granth Sahib Ji by Bhai Veer Singh Ji it includes from Volume 1 Rehras and Kirtan Sohila
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Sangat Ji i wanted to know if there are orgainzations in the west who are training gianis and granthis for gurdwaras. It seems that all of them come from punjab and dont know english to help the young people. Also, we should set up schools in the west were we can train the gianis and hire them locally.
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i recently saw this news on facebook.
please like to help spread the message
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http://www.cbc.ca/ne...l-milewski.html
Sikhs rally for suicide bomber on Parliament Hill
But, this time, the politicians stay insideBy Terry Milewski, CBC News Posted: Mar 28, 2012 10:23 PM ET Last Updated: Mar 28, 2012 10:49 PM ET
Parliament Hill in Ottawa may present many bizarre spectacles. But has the wide, green lawn in front of the Parliament Buildings ever seen something as bizarre as a demonstration in support of a convicted "human bomb?"
That's what happened on Wednesday when several hundred Canadian Sikhs bused to Ottawa to demand clemency for an admitted terrorist named Balwant Singh Rajoana. Rajoana, on death row in India, must surely be the most unlikely poster boy for a "human rights campaign" that the Canadian capital has ever seen.
In India, the term "human bomb" denotes a suicide bomber — although Rajoana only aspired to blow himself up and never pressed the button. But he proudly acknowledges that he was the backup bomber, ready to step in if the lead bomber failed in the 1995 assassination of his fellow Sikh, Beant Singh, chief minister of the state of Punjab.
Seventeen others died as collateral damage. Rajoana, sentenced to death in 2007, claimed to have directed the attack as a member of the Babbar Khalsa, the banned terrorist group whose Vancouver cell is blamed for the Air India bombing of 1985. The BK was one of several underground groups fighting for a separate Sikh state in Punjab.
On death row, Rajoana waived his right to appeal, refused to ask for clemency and said he wished to "die as a martyr" for the Sikh cause. His hanging was set for Saturday, March 31. But, on Wednesday morning, facing strikes and demonstrations all over Punjab, the Indian government ordered a stay of execution.
This was not enough for the demonstrators in Ottawa, who consider Rajoana a "living martyr" and a "political prisoner." They cloaked their rally in the banner of "human rights" and a spokesman for the Canadian Sikh Coalition, Moninder Singh Bual, urged Sikhs to "liberate the thousands of Sikh political prisoners facing a similar plight to Bhai Rajoana.”
"Bhai," meaning brother, is a term of esteem given to Sikh priests and other respected figures.
Convicted killers have often received such praise throughout the long history of Sikh extremism, in which Canada has always played an important role. And, if there were any doubt that Canada remains a stronghold of Sikh separatism, Wednesday's demonstration should settle it.
The Air India bombing may have been 27 years ago, but a low-level struggle goes on and, for weeks, a campaign has been waged to draw political figures into the defence of Rajoana and the condemnation of the government of India.
In the past, such efforts have often succeeded. Large and politically energetic Sikh communities in B.C. and Ontario present rich pickings for the pandering politician. Over the years, Conservatives, Liberals and New Democrats have all been caught cozying up to Sikh extremists in pursuit of donations, endorsements and votes.
But this tendency fell into disrepute in 2007, when politicians from all parties were spotted applauding a Vaisakhi parade float in Surrey, B.C., bearing the garlanded portrait of the "martyred" Talwinder Singh Parmar, the architect of 331 deaths in the Air India bombing. At the Air India inquiry under retired justice John Major, relatives of the victims reserved special scorn for this spectacle.
"I'm sorry, I know it's about your votes, but that's dirty business," Perviz Madon testified. Her husband, Sam, died in the bombing.
"You don't want to be associated with a group that is linked to terrorism," she went on. "You don't want those kind of votes!"
Of course, the appetite for votes has not disappeared. During the 2011 campaign, extremist voices again clambered onto the political stage in pursuit of respectability and influence. But the defence of Rajoana may have been too much to swallow.
Jasbir Sandhu and Jinny Sims, two NDP MPs from B.C., gave minimal assistance to the Rajoana campaign by issuing a press release condemning capital punishment. But they kept clear of any sympathy for Rajoana himself and neither spoke at the rally on Parliament Hill. Liberal MP Jim Karygiannis, did speak there but made the same point and, like the two NDPers, condemned political violence. No Conservative MPs ventured into the neighbourhood.
So it may be that the influence of Sikh extremists is fading. But they're certainly not giving up. And, for now, they've ensured that the "human bomb," Balwant Singh Rajoana, lives on.
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Has someone scanned and put this book on the web because i was thinking of reading it but dont want the money to go to brar.
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by chance i was watching this video on youtube of a muslim debate and a khanda was on the left side of the screen at 2.46
Forward to 2.46
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Here is the Jap Ji Sahib from Bhai Veer Singh's Santhya Guru Granth Sahib Ji Volume 1, hope to scan the rest of the volumes.
Santhya Guru Granth Sahib comes in 7 volumes as they are scanned i will upload them here.
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Ask Your Sikhi Related Questions To Sant Baba Hari Singh Ji Randhave Wale
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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Please ask Baba Ji if the Sant Samaj and SGPC are still talking about making the Panth Maryada One. Baba Ji mentioned in a interview that they were going to try again with the new administration.