JSinghnz

Prachar has been the biggest problem in our religion. Though Sikhism is the greatest religion on the universe, we are unlucky that we have not had good leadership or preachers to propagate the tenets and values to our own people. The teachings of our religion are the best as compared to any other, our sacrifices are unparalleled in the history of humanity but sorry to say, we are our own worst enemies.We should all be grateful to be born or been initiated into Sikhism which shows the most practical way to find Waheguru. Our Ten Masters have lead by example and the Eleventh Master Guru Granth Sahib ji shows us the path in every sphere of life. We have institutions like Guru Ka Langar which cannot be matched by any other religion. We are not bound by any superstions or rituals. We do not start our lifes as sinners as propagated by Christianity. We do not observe meaningless fasts like Muslims nor worship millions of gods like Hindus. The list of uniqueness and greatness of our religion is endless. But these qualities of our religion our recognized by very lucky few. It is our responsibility to spread the message of our Gurus and educate our own people and others about the greatness of our religion and not wait for someone else to do it for us .

We do not want to hear anything about someone who has betrayed our religion and converted to another.These idiots should not be using Sikh names. They should change their last names to a Christian surname. Shameless, spineless, traitors.

The warning is not enough. The so called Sikh leaders who have dared to go against the directives of the Akal Takht Sahib should be thrown out of the Panth.

Congrats to the Sikh panth. This show how much we can achieve if we are united in our efforts. I am so pleased with this victory. We should use this as

an .example of leading the world by working together.

I have voted for United Sikhs and also forwarded this message to friends and family.

May Waheguru shower His Blessings on the Sikh Sangat, Sikh Panth and all humanity.

Thanks to this forum for encouraging everyone to recite His Naam.

Keep up the good work in promoting Sikhism all over the world.

ahhh thats why i said gurdwara's have to find ways to attract youth cause most youth find the gurdwara boring and the granthis and alot of the retards drive the youth away, have you seen weddings be it uk or states you have these dumb granthis start lecturing people about sikhism which in turn ticks people off, people get angry when their being judged and lectured so hence why people make fun of these granthis

the gurdwaras need to find ways to inspire youth to come to the gurdwara and learn about sikhi but let the youth decide to take that knowledge and do what ever they choose to do with it, you can't tell anyone how to live their life its human nature people don't like being told what to do

and reason i bring up military is that sikhs need to raise men and women cause sikhs are to soft, but i guess you would rather be weak then strong

Keep your ill informed guesses to yourself. Your guessing shows your weak character and a loose tongue which you use for slandering others.

You need mental training to be fit to write on this forum.

Sikhism means to face any challenge in life bravely and emerge victorious. Stop being miserable about your education, concentrate on your studies and excel in your field. Kirat Karna is one of the foremost duties of a Sikh.

The world is not an illusion. It is an opportunity to remember and praise Waheguru (Naam Japna) and attain perpetual Bliss.

So stop thinking and start living a life of a true Sikh.

It is wrong to do these activities in a Gurudwara. Can some one from the Sikh Sangat in London do something to stop this crap.

And then the lazy habit of just tying a patka stick with the teen. Some of them keep it till they are in their late 20's. There must be a reform on this, where young kids are taught how to tie a dastar at a early age. And parents must get out of their lazy ways and start tying a dastar on their kids at a young age. Another problem here is that bibian don't learn how to tie the dastar, so instead they tie the patka on their kids, which they find easy to tie. The dad is at work by the time the kid has to go to school and can't tie it for him/her.

Punjabis mentality needs to be completely changed on this problem. Bibian and Singhs are equally responsible for tying the dastar (keeping the Sikhi Saroop). This double standard of bibian don't need to tie the dastar is hurting Sikhi.

I have to give this to you for being so original. Lol, "bibian don't learn how to tie the dastar, so instead they tie the patka on their kids." So instead of thanking the mothers for looking after the hair of their children so lovingly, washing the hair regularly, combing them regularly, you want them to tie the dastar for them too. The lazy fathers should not even fulfill their duties of teaching the art of tying a turban to their children.

Thanks S1ngh for clarifying your point. We as Sikhs have a responsibility towards our children to teach them the basics of Sikhism. We have to tell them clearly that patitpuna is not right, taking drugs is not right and so on.Even if we are living in Western countries, we have to teach the difference between the right and the wrong to our children. Otherwise how else would they know. Only five rightly says,"Simply telling a kid to do paat, doesn't put into context why they are doing it. They need a very detailed description of the reason to do paat and this is where the life of the Gurmukhs can be introduced."

Like you said earlier, let us walk our talk. Be fearless and your kids will not know fear. Lead by example so that the world realizes they are dealing with a Singh who respects all, fears none.

i believe sikhs need to learn their history and the gurdwara's need to find ways to set up programs

sikhs should be encouraged to put their kids at a young age into boxing and mma

and every gurdwara and sikh should encourage children to look at the military

More important for every gurdwara to look at making Sikhs. More important for Sikhs to become Sikhs and most important to encourage our children to learn and live the path of Sikhi. No use to look at the military when Sikhs do not even understand the basics of Sikhism. Stop wasting our time bringing out such useless topics. Think about putting your time in becoming strong yourself and lead by example. Put your time in teaching Sikhism to the misguided Sikh youth of today.

I think wales got a very good point. A program that focus on adults rather than doing focusing all on kids. I think there should be a balance as at the end, it will always be a parent who take care of the upbringing of kids.

It depends on your society.. where i grew up, i know that most of my friends would find any possible reason to get haircut (this is very common situation in punjab). Between age range of 15 to 18ish, they all became monay; mostly against parent wishes. Huge majority of sikh youth do not have sangat nor interested in learning about our dharam.

Also patka is modern day invention; a more lazy lifestyle of our community. What will be next? banadana ? or open hair.. I think there are many reasons why kids do not want to wear pugh or keep hair when they reach the most trouble part of their life (teenager) and realize the materialistic world around you. btw i wore patka all my life and now i won't give this stupid culture to my kids in future..

What will be the basics of 'why we value our hair' that you will teach them? thats why we are here to walk the talk !

what should we teach to kids so that they can value our hair?

what should we teach to kids so that they don't do drugs or drink alcohol or smoke?

Please refrain from calling patka stupid. You have, I have and now my boys wear patkas to school. I live in a country which took me to towns in which my son was the only Sikh wearing a patka to his school. Rest all were your so called mona Sikh children. We as a family taught our young boy why we keep our hair. We taught him how proud are we to be Sikhs. We went to the school authorities and spoke to them about our religion, our beliefs and why our son has long hair and wears a patka. The school authorities made sure that everyone at school is made aware of our son's long hair and patka and that no one was to touch it. So the children learn from the parents and feel proud of their religion and are not afraid to stand out alone in a school with hundreds of other children with cut hair. Like I said earlier, it is the parents who have failed to infuse pride, knowledge and values of Sikhism in their children. And when the children become mona, it shows how weak their foundations were.

Oh dear. Not content with putting me on Quality Control, you now want to chase me with your ignorance.

Wars that we won: Khalsa -v- Mughals, Khalsa -v- Afghans, Khalsa -v- Chinese Empire, Khalsa -v- Nepal.

Wars we lost: Khalsa -v- British India.

Lol, you amaze me with your complexities. It would be a good idea to think and rethink before you write on this forum. On one hand, you write without thinking, "But the reason we are not strong is that Sikhs have lost too many wars." and then follow this with, "Wars we lost: Khalsa -v- British India." So losing one war is according to you "lost too many wars."

So next time before you write here, have a nice shower, a nice cup of coffee, clear your mind and then go for it.

Heed my suggestion and

Problem 1:

• No Pugh on today's youth.
  Possible reasons:
  1. Patka Trend (My generation)- Youth wearing patka finds hard and embarrassing when time comes for them to wear Pugh. Find data locally to know that how many youth who wore patka successfully started wearing pugh. All my cousins were patka wearing and comes the 17th or 18th birthday they all choose to become mona. Some of my relatives are very firm in sikh values. They are not happy but at same they can't do anything.
  2. Never kept Kesh (Next generation)- Youth are not being guided properly as their parents are not aware of religious teachings and practices. Even if they are little bit aware of but due to lack of resources or efforts they couldn't teach their kids about Sikh dharam.
  

Solution: What it will be or should be ??

I am amused by your rationale about the patkas. What made you think that patka wearing kids found it hard and embarrassing to wear a pukh.

The reason I believe is that even if parents were firm in Sikh values, they did not inculcate the same values in their children. If our children are taught the basics about why we value our hair and how many sacrifices we have given to maintain our identity, they would never think of becoming mona.

Absolutely disgusting to see this picture. Shame on the idiots who are doing this. Of course it is beadbi of our Greatest Living Guru, Guru Granth Sahib.

Forget consumerism or stupidity or those other reasons. They are partly true. But the reason we are not strong is that Sikhs have lost too many wars. For a people who made their name in wars, we dont have the ability to win one. Hell, we dont even have the capacity to understand how we won the wars that we won let alone figure why we lost wars since then. When people lose wars, they begin to lose social cohesion and trust in one another. This leads to a free for all where everyone is out to get what they can. And that is where we are today.

Again another example of your illogical views. What wars are you talking about? Wars are between two nations. So when did we become a nation and had wars with other nations?

Sikh Sangat nu Guru Nanak Dev Ji De Parkash Divas diyaan Lakh Lakh Vadiayan.

Who are the winners of this contest?

His profile pic isn't a Khanda but a Hindu statue from the 10th century. Like the muppet on the programme who said that studying Shastarvidya for 8 years made him more proud to be an Indian, Gurbar Akaal is just showing how screwed up a person can become when he comes into contact with the last Sikh con artist!

Very well said. These impostors should be stopped from misusing SIKH SYMBOLS.

Grand victory for Sikhs.

S. Trilochan Singh, who was denied the job of a Prison Officer because he refused to shave his beard has been given the job as well as USD 295K as compensation. He starts his job with California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation (CDCR) on November 1st, 2011.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/uk/Sikh-wins-bias-case-gets-job-and-295K/articleshow/10525938.cms

Thanks for sharing.

Sikh Sangat nu Bandhi Chhor Diwas diyaan lakh lakh vadiyaan.

patkas look silly.

Size is irrelevant, as long as you have a keski underneath and a dastar tied on top then nothing else matters

Keep your silly views to yourself. The young Sikhs have to wear patkas and then go on to tie dastars when they learn how to do it.

I have never been with any bad effect of wearing patka. Some people wear it very tight which can be cause to your problem. So stop thinking negative.

Cannot see any signs or symptoms of any patka in your photograph.