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Translation 5 The Hetak meaning. The meaning for worshippers <> Ik Onkar Ik = one, unique, constant Onkar = enlightener, illuminator God has a form that is unique and distinguished. God has no duality and is only one The Sikhs asked Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “ How is God one?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question “God is the enlightener of all and gives all knowledge. God gives all beings illumination. Other things such as the sun, moon, stars, etc all provide light but cannot self illuminate and are illuminated by God. For this reason God is one.” The Sikhs asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “ How is God the enlightener and illuminator of all?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question “Due to God residing in all the three domains such as heavens, earth and hell he gives illumination and knowledge to all.” The Sikhs asked, “ How is God true?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question siq Sat Sat = True Due to God’s name being well known and the Vedas and Shastars saying that God has no end. For this reason God is considered to be true. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God well known?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered this question nwmu Nam Nam = well known Due to God being the creator of the entire universe he is very well known. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God the creator?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered this question krqw Karta Karta = creator Due to God being the complete being and residing everywhere in the entire creation he is the creator of all. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God complete?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered this question purKu Purkh Purkh = complete Due to God being without fear he is complete. A being that is fearful cannot be considered as complete. For this reason God is complete and ever present due to having no fear. God has no type of fear. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God without fear?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered this question inrBau Nirbhou Nirbhou = no fear Due to God being without any enmity he is without fear. If a being has enmity then they will also be fearful of that being. God does not consider anyone to be his or her enemy as he resides in all of creation in each beings soul and only sees himself. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God without any enmity?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question inrvYru Nirvair Nirvair = no emnity Due to the form of God being exempt from death he has no enmity. If a person is aware that they will eventually die and perish then they will always find someone to consider their enemy. Only because God is immortal he has no enmity. The Sikhs then asked, “How does God have an immortal form?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat Akaal = immortal, Moorat = form Due to God being exempt from the cycle of transmigration and never taking birth he has an immortal form. One who has to take birth and later has to die is not considered to have an immortal ford due to it having to decompose. Because God is not born and does not die his form does not change and remains the same for this reason it is immortal. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God beyond birth and death?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question AjUnI Ajooni Ajooni = beyond birth and death Due to God being a self-illuminating being he is beyond birth and death. He does not enter the cycle of transmigration. Those beings that are illuminated by another source cannot be considered as being beyond birth and death. Only God is self-illuminated and is exempt from entering the cycle of transmigration. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God self illuminated?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered this question sYBM Sai Bhang Sai Bhang = self illuminated Due to God having the form of supreme consciousness he is considered to be self illuminated with knowledge. God gives all other beings supreme consciousness and due to this he is seen as self illuminated. God is the icon of devotion. All of the demi gods such as Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva all see God as their spiritual master and see him as great. God is the greatest spiritual master and due to this is the object of worship. The Sikhs then asked, “ How is God the form of supreme consciousness?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question gur Gur Gur = supreme consciousness Due to God being the form of supreme bliss he is considered the form of supreme consciousness. A person who suffers from pain and ailment cannot be considered a spiritual master. God is the great being who gives grace to all. God is the one who adorned the form of the ten Gurus and graced all of humanity. God is the one who has given the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji the throne of authority and they as the spiritual master are giving grace to the world. This shows that the Gurus who are the spiritual masters are here to give grace to other in order for another’s good. The Sikhs then asked, “How is God the form of supreme bliss?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question pRswid Parsad Parsad = supreme bliss Due to the name of God being worshipped by all he is the form of supreme bliss. The Sikhs asked, “Why is God worthy of worship by all?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question ] jpu ] Jap Jap = worthy of worship God is worthy of worship as in the primordial beginning he was the form of truth and he was all-alone. The Sikhs then asked, “ How was God true in the primordial beginning?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question Awid scu Aad Sach Aad = primordial beginning, Sach = true Due to God being the form of truth through the ages he is considered the form of truth in the primordial beginning. The Sikhs then asked, “ How was God true throughout the ages?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question jugwid scu ] Jugaad Sach Jugaad = through the ages, Sach = true Due to God being the form of truth in the present time he is considered the form of truth throughout the ages. The Sikhs then asked, “ How is God the form of truth in the present time?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question hY BI scu Hai Bhi Sach Hai = is, Bhi = now, Sach = true Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji states that God who is without any duality in the future will be the form of truth. Due to this God is considered the form of truth during the present time. God is the form of truth as he does come to an end and perish. This is the Hetak meaning. The meaning for worshippers End of Translation 5

Translation 4 The Atee Biapatee Dosh Nivirat meaning. The Sidhs asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “O True King in this incantation that you have recited do you have the flaws of Abiapatee, Goravta and Atee Biapatee in it? From what we have heard we have not seen these flaws.” Guru Nanak Dev Ji said, “This incantation is exempt from all flaws. When we created this incantation we made sure we eradicated all of the possible flaws. The Atee Biapatee is where a creature or thing is its own specie but has similarities to another. For example you can find a cow with horns. There are other animals that also have horns such as bulls and rhinos. The Sidhs then said, “ O true king we understand that <> (ik onkar) means that god is one, he has no duality and is the one who illuminates and gives knowledge to all. siq (sat) means that God is the form of truth. What was the reason for continuing the incantation further and adding nwmu (nam)? Would not it have been better to leave the incantation at this point and make it easier for your devotees?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji replied nwmu Nam Nam = well known If we left the incantation at Ik Onkar and Sat then the atheist also believe that the genus and the sky are also true. The atheist says that the genus is made up from one generation of a person to another. If a father dies then a son remains carrying on the genus. Later on you get grandchildren. In this way the genus remains forever. For this reason the atheists believe the genus of a species to be true. The sky is the root cause. The sky is attributed to the virtue of darkness. The atheists also believe the sky to be real. However the sky and the genus are said to be true in accordance to the atheists. However they are not well known. Not all the people believe that these are true. The Lord God is well known and for this reason Nam was added. If Nam were not added the Ik Onkar Sat would not be attributed to God. Those atheists that say that the genus and the sky are true they would have attributed Ik Onkar Sat to their school of thought. However we wanted to attribute our incantation to the Lord only. For the reason of attributing this to Lord we made the incantation Ik Onkar Satnam. The One Lord God has a name that is the truth and he himself is the truth. The form of the illusion Maya and everything else is false. The name of God and the form of God is true. For this reason we attributed this to the form of God and had to extend the incantation. The Sidhs then asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “ Why did you not leave the incantation at Nam. What was the reason for adding Karta? By just saying this much of the incantation the Sikhs would gain divine knowledge. Why not leave the incantation as Ik Onkar Satnam?” Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered krqw Karta Karta = creator The reason why Karta was added because each human being has an individual name. Some people are Hindu and some Muslim. One person has one name and another has a different one. Due to the vast number of names the individuals would come to the assumption that the incantation was attributed to them. We wanted to attribute the incantation to God. For this reason Karta was added. The people have many names but none of them are the creator. God is the only creator he has created the holy word, which is known throughout the entire universe. Karta was added to make sure God is the one everything in this incantation is attributed to. The Sidhs then asked, “What was the reason for adding Purkh? Why not just leave the incantation at Karta as just by reading the incantation the Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge.” Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question purKu Purkh Purkh = male, complete within all The reason why this was added to the incantation is due to suitors, blacksmiths and ironmongers all also being creators. For this reason due to the work that they do daily they all become creators. For this reason people think of them if the incantation was left at Karta. There are many types of creators. There are people who create clothes from thread, people make jewellery from gold and weapons from iron. The second type of creator is one that makes things from his own such as a being in his sleep can create thousands of things. A spider can be a creator as it can make a web from itself. The only difference between a spider and God as a creator is that the spider has to make its web from himself. God however can create everything from just a command or thought. In all of his creation God is complete and mixes with his creation. The created creation of the Lord is being looked after by God while he continues to create it. For this reason Purkh has been added. The other creators are real but they are not complete or mixed in what they are creating. For this reason Purkh was added as the incantation was to be attributed to God only and not the other creators. Another reason why Purkh was added because the illusion known as Maya is also known to be a creator. The incantation was not to be attributed to the illusion known as Maya but the Lord. For this reason Purkh was added due to it representing a masculine force. The only true masculine or male is God as all others in creation are his counter part. For this reason Purkh was added so that the incantation could still be attributed to God. The Sidhs hearing this asked, “O true king what was the need of adding Nirbhou? Why not just leave the incantation at Purkh as just by reading the incantation the Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge.” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question inrBau Nirbhou Nirbhou = without fear The incantation could not be left at Purkh as the stories connected to holy people say that they are Purkh. They say that they are complete. Some people also call themselves complete and now call themselves creators of all sorts of things. Due to this Nirbhou was added as this incantation is to be attributed to God and not human beings. The human beings are not Nirbhou. They fear the thought of death and this fear is implanted in them and remains with them all through life. Due to this it was added as only God is without fear and the incantation was made to attribute to him only. The Sidhs then asked, “What was the need of adding Nirvair? Why not just leave the incantation at Nirbhou as just by reading the incantation to this point the Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question inrvYru Nirvair Nirvair = no emnity The attribute of Nirvair was added because demon kings such as Ravan, Sawasbeeraj, Harnaksh and Mahiravan who were also without fear. Harnaksh made the world revere him and hated the demi god Vishnu. He wanted to kill the demi god as revenge for the killing of his brother. Harnaksh made the world live in fear of him and made everyone recite his name. He called himself God. He lived without fear of anyone and saw himself as invincible. Ravan was another demon king who could not be burned by fire and could not drown in water. He also lived without fear of anyone and believed himself to be immortal. These beings were indeed without fear and if the incantation ended there then people would attribute it to them. The incantation was to be attributed to God alone and due to Nirvair was added. These demon kings were not without enmity as they considered God as an enemy and many other people. By adding this the incantation could still be attributed to God. God also is both without fear and without enmity. No other being is the same. The Sidhs then asked, “ Why not just leave the incantation at Nirvair? What was the need to continue the incantation and add Akaal?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question Akwl Akaal Akaal = no death This was added to the incantation due to the saints also being without enemies. They see all beings as that of God. For this reason the incantation was continued as it was not supposed to be attributed to the saints but God. Akaal was added as the saints are susceptible to death. Their bodies eventually have to succumb to the inevitable death. God however has a form that does not perish and is exempt to the flaw of death. God alone is immortal. Akaal, which means beyond death was added. If this was not added the incantation would attribute to the saints and not God. The incantation was made to be attributed to God and for this reason it had to be extended. The Sidhs then asked, “Why not stop the incantation at Akaal? What was the reason for adding the word Moorat?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question mUriq Moorat Moorat = form The incantation was continued due to time also being immortal and never ending. The time zones of past, present and future remain forever. People believe time to be endless. If Moorat was not added then people would attribute the incantation to time. Time is not without form. It has forms such as seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, etc. God however is without any form and due to this it was added to show that this incantation is attributed to God only. Another reason for continuing the incantation is that science states that the shards of broken pottery remain the same. Such as an earthen pot can be broken but all the shards although are not in the same form as before they remain the same. For this reason the incantation continued to separate God from the basic shards. For this reason Moorat was added. The Sidhs then said, “Why not stop the incantation at Moorat? What was the reason for making it longer and adding Ajooni? The Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge by reading the incantation up to Moorat.” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question AjUnI Ajooni Ajooni = without birth The reason why the incantation could not be left at Moorat was due to God creating the atom, which is without form. The point of the incantation was to attribute it to God alone. If the incantation was left at Moorat then people may have attributed it to the basic atom. For this reason Ajooni was added. God was the only thing not created. The Sidhs then asked, “ Why was the incantation continued and not left at Ajooni? What was the need to add Sai Bhang?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question sYBM Sai Bhang Sai Bhang = self illuminating The illusion known as Maya is also unborn. She has not been born at any point that any being knows of. Also no one can state where she was born. The point of the incantation was to be attributed to God however if it was left at Ajooni then some people would have attributed this incantation to the illusion known as Maya. For this reason Sai Bhang was added to the incantation. The illusion known as Maya is not self illuminated but is illuminated by God. God alone is self-illuminated. For this reason Sai Bhang was added so that the incantation could only be attributed to God. The Sidhs hearing this asked, “ What is the reason to continue the incantation and adding Gur? Why not leave the incantation at this point and leave it at Sai Bhang?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question gur Gur Gur = supreme cosciousness This is due to the sun, moon, lightening, water, fire and stars being self-illuminated. In order for these to illuminate you do not need to add an accelerant such as oil, petrol, gas, etc. They illuminate themselves according to science and the atheists. The eyes can see this illumination. The light for the eyes to see is from the form of the supreme consciousness. For the eyes to see there is a form of light in them. The sun, moon stars, etc are not self illuminated but are illuminated by another. At the time of the doomsday when it comes to their destruction they will become black and no longer illuminate. Due to the power of God these things are illuminated. These cannot be the form of the supreme consciousness. In order to attribute this incantation to God the word Gur was added. There is only one form of supreme consciousness in all of existence and that is the Lord God. The Sidhs then asked, “What was the reason for adding Parsad to the incantation? Why not just leave the incantation at Gur?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question pRswid Parsad Parsad = supreme bliss, grateful Parsad was added due to Gur meaning great or big. The biggest mountain according to mythology is the Sumer Mountain. Other things such as the expanse of the universe are also called big and great. So in order to show that God is greater then them the incantation had to continue. None of these things mentioned are the form of supreme bliss and are not graceful. There may be many things that are great but they are neither the form of supreme bliss or graceful. Only God is graceful and the form of supreme bliss for this reason Parsad was added to the incantation so that it could be attributed to God. The Sidhs then asked, “You have explained why you put Parsad in the incantation but what was the need to add the numeral one at the start of it? Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question <> Ik Onkar Ik = one, unique, constant The people of the earth state that they are in supreme bliss once they have eaten a meal. A human being can remain in a state of bliss whilst in yoga as long as his mind is settled. However later the concentration can be broken and due to this person falls out of bliss. However God is the supreme blissful being who is graceful. He is like an ocean of water, which never changes. The water never spills, never runs out, does not get cold, does not get hot and does not get dirty. It forever remains the same. Unlike the bliss from eating or doing yoga, God never changes. God is one and is unique. For this reason the numeral one was so that the incantation would be attributed to the lord only. The Sidhs then asked, “You added Ik what was the reason for adding Onkar to the incantation?” Onkar = illuminator of all Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question There is but one illusion known as Maya. But Maya is not the root cause of everything. God alone is the illuminator of everything and gives everyone knowledge. For this reason Onkar was added so that the incantation could be attributed to God only. The Sidhs then asked, “You have said Ik Onkar for your incantation. Why did you extend the incantation further then this? Why did you add Sat to the incantation?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question siq Sat Sat = true Due to God populating the three domains of heaven, earth and hell he is considered to be true. For this reason Sat was added in order to attribute the incantation to God. This is the Atee Biapatee Dosh Nivirat meaning of the Maha Mantra of the Jap Ji Sahib. This was explained in order to show that the incantation was made to attribute it only to God and no other. The incantation from <> to gur pRswid is known as the Maha Mantar (the great incantation). God gave this to Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji when they went into the Beas River and stayed under it for three days. This was the basic message given by god to Guru Nanak Dev I so that it could be given to all of mankind. This was done in order to teach the world about God. End of translation 4

Translation 4 The Atee Biapatee Dosh Nivirat meaning. The Sidhs asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “O True King in this incantation that you have recited do you have the flaws of Abiapatee, Goravta and Atee Biapatee in it? From what we have heard we have not seen these flaws.” Guru Nanak Dev Ji said, “This incantation is exempt from all flaws. When we created this incantation we made sure we eradicated all of the possible flaws. The Atee Biapatee is where a creature or thing is its own specie but has similarities to another. For example you can find a cow with horns. There are other animals that also have horns such as bulls and rhinos. The Sidhs then said, “ O true king we understand that <> (ik onkar) means that god is one, he has no duality and is the one who illuminates and gives knowledge to all. siq (sat) means that God is the form of truth. What was the reason for continuing the incantation further and adding nwmu (nam)? Would not it have been better to leave the incantation at this point and make it easier for your devotees?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji replied nwmu Nam Nam = well known If we left the incantation at Ik Onkar and Sat then the atheist also believe that the genus and the sky are also true. The atheist says that the genus is made up from one generation of a person to another. If a father dies then a son remains carrying on the genus. Later on you get grandchildren. In this way the genus remains forever. For this reason the atheists believe the genus of a species to be true. The sky is the root cause. The sky is attributed to the virtue of darkness. The atheists also believe the sky to be real. However the sky and the genus are said to be true in accordance to the atheists. However they are not well known. Not all the people believe that these are true. The Lord God is well known and for this reason Nam was added. If Nam were not added the Ik Onkar Sat would not be attributed to God. Those atheists that say that the genus and the sky are true they would have attributed Ik Onkar Sat to their school of thought. However we wanted to attribute our incantation to the Lord only. For the reason of attributing this to Lord we made the incantation Ik Onkar Satnam. The One Lord God has a name that is the truth and he himself is the truth. The form of the illusion Maya and everything else is false. The name of God and the form of God is true. For this reason we attributed this to the form of God and had to extend the incantation. The Sidhs then asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “ Why did you not leave the incantation at Nam. What was the reason for adding Karta? By just saying this much of the incantation the Sikhs would gain divine knowledge. Why not leave the incantation as Ik Onkar Satnam?” Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered krqw Karta Karta = creator The reason why Karta was added because each human being has an individual name. Some people are Hindu and some Muslim. One person has one name and another has a different one. Due to the vast number of names the individuals would come to the assumption that the incantation was attributed to them. We wanted to attribute the incantation to God. For this reason Karta was added. The people have many names but none of them are the creator. God is the only creator he has created the holy word, which is known throughout the entire universe. Karta was added to make sure God is the one everything in this incantation is attributed to. The Sidhs then asked, “What was the reason for adding Purkh? Why not just leave the incantation at Karta as just by reading the incantation the Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge.” Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question purKu Purkh Purkh = male, complete within all The reason why this was added to the incantation is due to suitors, blacksmiths and ironmongers all also being creators. For this reason due to the work that they do daily they all become creators. For this reason people think of them if the incantation was left at Karta. There are many types of creators. There are people who create clothes from thread, people make jewellery from gold and weapons from iron. The second type of creator is one that makes things from his own such as a being in his sleep can create thousands of things. A spider can be a creator as it can make a web from itself. The only difference between a spider and God as a creator is that the spider has to make its web from himself. God however can create everything from just a command or thought. In all of his creation God is complete and mixes with his creation. The created creation of the Lord is being looked after by God while he continues to create it. For this reason Purkh has been added. The other creators are real but they are not complete or mixed in what they are creating. For this reason Purkh was added as the incantation was to be attributed to God only and not the other creators. Another reason why Purkh was added because the illusion known as Maya is also known to be a creator. The incantation was not to be attributed to the illusion known as Maya but the Lord. For this reason Purkh was added due to it representing a masculine force. The only true masculine or male is God as all others in creation are his counter part. For this reason Purkh was added so that the incantation could still be attributed to God. The Sidhs hearing this asked, “O true king what was the need of adding Nirbhou? Why not just leave the incantation at Purkh as just by reading the incantation the Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge.” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question inrBau Nirbhou Nirbhou = without fear The incantation could not be left at Purkh as the stories connected to holy people say that they are Purkh. They say that they are complete. Some people also call themselves complete and now call themselves creators of all sorts of things. Due to this Nirbhou was added as this incantation is to be attributed to God and not human beings. The human beings are not Nirbhou. They fear the thought of death and this fear is implanted in them and remains with them all through life. Due to this it was added as only God is without fear and the incantation was made to attribute to him only. The Sidhs then asked, “What was the need of adding Nirvair? Why not just leave the incantation at Nirbhou as just by reading the incantation to this point the Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question inrvYru Nirvair Nirvair = no emnity The attribute of Nirvair was added because demon kings such as Ravan, Sawasbeeraj, Harnaksh and Mahiravan who were also without fear. Harnaksh made the world revere him and hated the demi god Vishnu. He wanted to kill the demi god as revenge for the killing of his brother. Harnaksh made the world live in fear of him and made everyone recite his name. He called himself God. He lived without fear of anyone and saw himself as invincible. Ravan was another demon king who could not be burned by fire and could not drown in water. He also lived without fear of anyone and believed himself to be immortal. These beings were indeed without fear and if the incantation ended there then people would attribute it to them. The incantation was to be attributed to God alone and due to Nirvair was added. These demon kings were not without enmity as they considered God as an enemy and many other people. By adding this the incantation could still be attributed to God. God also is both without fear and without enmity. No other being is the same. The Sidhs then asked, “ Why not just leave the incantation at Nirvair? What was the need to continue the incantation and add Akaal?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question Akwl Akaal Akaal = no death This was added to the incantation due to the saints also being without enemies. They see all beings as that of God. For this reason the incantation was continued as it was not supposed to be attributed to the saints but God. Akaal was added as the saints are susceptible to death. Their bodies eventually have to succumb to the inevitable death. God however has a form that does not perish and is exempt to the flaw of death. God alone is immortal. Akaal, which means beyond death was added. If this was not added the incantation would attribute to the saints and not God. The incantation was made to be attributed to God and for this reason it had to be extended. The Sidhs then asked, “Why not stop the incantation at Akaal? What was the reason for adding the word Moorat?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question mUriq Moorat Moorat = form The incantation was continued due to time also being immortal and never ending. The time zones of past, present and future remain forever. People believe time to be endless. If Moorat was not added then people would attribute the incantation to time. Time is not without form. It has forms such as seconds, minutes, hours, days, months, etc. God however is without any form and due to this it was added to show that this incantation is attributed to God only. Another reason for continuing the incantation is that science states that the shards of broken pottery remain the same. Such as an earthen pot can be broken but all the shards although are not in the same form as before they remain the same. For this reason the incantation continued to separate God from the basic shards. For this reason Moorat was added. The Sidhs then said, “Why not stop the incantation at Moorat? What was the reason for making it longer and adding Ajooni? The Sikhs would have gained divine knowledge by reading the incantation up to Moorat.” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question AjUnI Ajooni Ajooni = without birth The reason why the incantation could not be left at Moorat was due to God creating the atom, which is without form. The point of the incantation was to attribute it to God alone. If the incantation was left at Moorat then people may have attributed it to the basic atom. For this reason Ajooni was added. God was the only thing not created. The Sidhs then asked, “ Why was the incantation continued and not left at Ajooni? What was the need to add Sai Bhang?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer the question sYBM Sai Bhang Sai Bhang = self illuminating The illusion known as Maya is also unborn. She has not been born at any point that any being knows of. Also no one can state where she was born. The point of the incantation was to be attributed to God however if it was left at Ajooni then some people would have attributed this incantation to the illusion known as Maya. For this reason Sai Bhang was added to the incantation. The illusion known as Maya is not self illuminated but is illuminated by God. God alone is self-illuminated. For this reason Sai Bhang was added so that the incantation could only be attributed to God. The Sidhs hearing this asked, “ What is the reason to continue the incantation and adding Gur? Why not leave the incantation at this point and leave it at Sai Bhang?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question gur Gur Gur = supreme cosciousness This is due to the sun, moon, lightening, water, fire and stars being self-illuminated. In order for these to illuminate you do not need to add an accelerant such as oil, petrol, gas, etc. They illuminate themselves according to science and the atheists. The eyes can see this illumination. The light for the eyes to see is from the form of the supreme consciousness. For the eyes to see there is a form of light in them. The sun, moon stars, etc are not self illuminated but are illuminated by another. At the time of the doomsday when it comes to their destruction they will become black and no longer illuminate. Due to the power of God these things are illuminated. These cannot be the form of the supreme consciousness. In order to attribute this incantation to God the word Gur was added. There is only one form of supreme consciousness in all of existence and that is the Lord God. The Sidhs then asked, “What was the reason for adding Parsad to the incantation? Why not just leave the incantation at Gur?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question pRswid Parsad Parsad = supreme bliss, grateful Parsad was added due to Gur meaning great or big. The biggest mountain according to mythology is the Sumer Mountain. Other things such as the expanse of the universe are also called big and great. So in order to show that God is greater then them the incantation had to continue. None of these things mentioned are the form of supreme bliss and are not graceful. There may be many things that are great but they are neither the form of supreme bliss or graceful. Only God is graceful and the form of supreme bliss for this reason Parsad was added to the incantation so that it could be attributed to God. The Sidhs then asked, “You have explained why you put Parsad in the incantation but what was the need to add the numeral one at the start of it? Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question <> Ik Onkar Ik = one, unique, constant The people of the earth state that they are in supreme bliss once they have eaten a meal. A human being can remain in a state of bliss whilst in yoga as long as his mind is settled. However later the concentration can be broken and due to this person falls out of bliss. However God is the supreme blissful being who is graceful. He is like an ocean of water, which never changes. The water never spills, never runs out, does not get cold, does not get hot and does not get dirty. It forever remains the same. Unlike the bliss from eating or doing yoga, God never changes. God is one and is unique. For this reason the numeral one was so that the incantation would be attributed to the lord only. The Sidhs then asked, “You added Ik what was the reason for adding Onkar to the incantation?” Onkar = illuminator of all Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question There is but one illusion known as Maya. But Maya is not the root cause of everything. God alone is the illuminator of everything and gives everyone knowledge. For this reason Onkar was added so that the incantation could be attributed to God only. The Sidhs then asked, “You have said Ik Onkar for your incantation. Why did you extend the incantation further then this? Why did you add Sat to the incantation?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to answer this question siq Sat Sat = true Due to God populating the three domains of heaven, earth and hell he is considered to be true. For this reason Sat was added in order to attribute the incantation to God. This is the Atee Biapatee Dosh Nivirat meaning of the Maha Mantra of the Jap Ji Sahib. This was explained in order to show that the incantation was made to attribute it only to God and no other. The incantation from <> to gur pRswid is known as the Maha Mantar (the great incantation). God gave this to Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji when they went into the Beas River and stayed under it for three days. This was the basic message given by god to Guru Nanak Dev I so that it could be given to all of mankind. This was done in order to teach the world about God. End of Translation 4

Translation 3 The Anbundak Meaning The Sikhs said to Guru Gobind Singh Ji, “There are four obligating appendixes in each scripture that are necessary. Are these four in your incantation?” Guru Gobind Singh Ji said that in each scripture there are these four obligating appendixes in each scripture and these can be found in the incantation. The four are as follows; 1) The Adhikari Anbund. <> Ik Onkar Ik Onkar = form, invocation This is the form of the auspicious Lord. siqnwm Satnam Satnam = official start This is the official opening of the scripture. The Sikhs asked Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji, “Who is entitled to read the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?” Guru Ji went on to answer the question, “The person who does not forget God in all eight parts of the day they are the worshippers and recite the incantation of siqnwm (satnam). They are entitled to read the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. They can then gain the understanding of the spiritual knowledge and religious pursuit. The four spiritual disciplines are Vairag, Vivek, Khat Sampati and Mokh Icha. The characteristics of siqnwm are the following. a) Vivek – God is the true form now, God was the true form before and in the future God will still be the true form. This is the wisdom of God. Vivek means wisdom. The person who gains reasoning and wisdom of God then they also gain Vairag, Khat Sampati and Mokh Icha. Which ever being gains the grace of their spiritual master and becomes the worshipper of the one true Lord gains the characteristics Vivek, Vairag, Khat Sampati and Mokh Icha. b) Vairag – one leaves the material objects and everything on this earth in order to reach the heavens. This is a person who renounces the world. Vairag is renunciation. c) Khat Sampati – This is made up of six disciplines, which are; i) Sam - To control the mind ii) Dam - To stop the lust for sexual pleasure iii) Sardha - To have complete faith iv) Samadhan - To keep a clear mind v) Upram -To be disinterested in sexual pleasure vi) Tatkhacha - To control a hunger One is to endure pain and happiness as if they are the same. Khat Sampati are disciplines. d) Mokh Icha – This is the yearning for salvation. This is when a person turns their back on all other things that makes them happy. These four characteristics are the entitlements. The person who meditates on the one true Lord is a God willing devotee and is entitled to read the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Out of all of these disciplines the initial one is Vivek. Because of Vivek it invokes the state of Vairag, Vairag invokes Khat Sampati and Khat Sampati leads to Mokh Icha. This is the Adhikari Anbund and is the official opening of the scripture. 2) The Vikhai Anbund. A second question was asked, “What is the Thesis of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? Until a person fully understands the thesis, topic or subject of the scripture one remains attaches to mundane worldly affairs.” Guru Gobind Singh Ji answered, “krqw purKu (karta purkh) contains the thesis of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. When God (krqw) and the being (purKu) become one this is the true union and topic of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. krqw Karta Karta = human being This stands for the being. If this being from his toe of his foot to his head is egotistical and believes that all of his actions are done to his own accord. purKu Purkh Purkh = God This stands for God. God who is exempt from the illusion known as Maya and provides and protects for all of creation. When the being and God come together and become one, this is the doctrine and meaning of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and can be found in the root incantation. This is the Vikhai Anbund of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. 3) The Paryojan Anbund The Sikhs then asked, “What is the supreme purpose of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji?” Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji said, “The supreme purpose of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is inrBau (no enmity) and inrvYru (no fear). inrBau Nirbhou Nir = no, Bhou = fear The fear of the birth and death should be eradicated. inrvYru Nirvair Nir = no, Vair = emnity The devotee of God should realise their enmity free soul and should be acquired. The supreme bliss obtained by getting rid of a person’s pain is the supreme purpose. For this reason inrvYru (nirvair) and inrBau (nirbhou) are the supreme purpose of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. 4) The Sanbandan Anbund These are the kinship and relationship purpose of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. These are Akwl mUriq (Akaal Moorat), AjUnI (Ajooni) and sYBM (Sai Bhang) are the kinship and relationship purposes of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. AjUnI (Ajooni) and sYBM (Sai Bhang) are the form of God. God is exempt from birth and death and with his name one gains knowledge. The knowledge is the self illuminated scriptures of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and gives the full explanation of God. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat Akaal = immortal, no death, Moorat = form The form of God, which is exempt from death. This is the real form of God. Through these three the kinship and relationship between a being and God is explained for the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and this can be found in the root incantation. The Sikhs then asked, “What is the relationship between the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and knowledge?” Guru Gobind Singh Ji replied, “ The Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is like a father to all beings. The name of God is like the son and the knowledge gained from it is the form of the son. Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji creates the knowledge and for this reason is the father. The knowledge created from the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is the form of the son. The relationship of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji and knowledge is of a father and son. All other relationships are not as strong and close as this one.” gurpRswid Gurparsad Gur = spiritual master, Parsad = grace Out of all of these appendixes without the grace of the spiritual master nothing can be achieved. For this reason with all of the appendixes you need the grace of the spiritual master to gain knowledge. Without the grace the right and authority cannot be gained. In this way Sri Guru Gobind Singh Ji explained the four obligating appendixes of the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji out of the root incantation. End of translation 3

continued Translation 2 inrvYru Nirvair Nir = without, Vair = vail which in turn means addiction God does not have any addiction or vice to anything. He is not addicted to things like any other beings. He does not yearn for tea, for tobacco, for drugs, for alcohol or any other bad vice like every other specie. God does not yearn for lust and sexual desire like other beings. God does not have any bad habits. inrvYru Nirvair Nir = no, Vair = enmity towards saints Those people who have enmity towards the saints such as the demon king Harnaksh, God sends the demi gods in different incarnations such as Narsingh to destroy their enmity. God is one who rids of enmity and this is his form. God again is divine and unique. There is no other like him. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat Akaal = immortal, Moorat = form God is exempt from death and this is his form. All other things are created from gold, silver, lead, iron, copper, paper, cotton, silk, etc. People are created in the womb of the mother. This form is not the same. This is due to at some point all of these forms being created, being broken, getting repaired and then being destroyed. These are not timeless and exempt from death unlike God. This shows that God’s form is exempt from death unlike every other form. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat A = without, beyond, Kaal = imagination, speculation, etc, Moorat = being God is beyond imagination, speculation, assumption and thought. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat A = without, Kaal = dark thoughts, Moorat = being God is exempt of having evil and dark thoughts. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat A = without, Kaal = blemish, Moorat = being God is without blemish and is not tainted. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat A = without, Kaal = misfortune, Moorat = being God is without misfortune and does not ever beg for charity. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat A = exempt, Kaal = time, Moorat = being God is in all of the time zones at the same time as he is exempt from time itself. God is in the past, present and future. mUriq Moorat Moorat = form Moorat means a persons form. Underlying meaning is that some forms are in the past, some are now in the present and some are going to be in the future. God does not have a form that changes it always remains the same. All other beings are born during time. Some are born during the night and others during the day. God however is exempt from time such as this. God is a spectator, he creates the universe and watches it. He cares for it and nourishes it. He is independent from all law and is exempt from time and death. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat A = Vishnu, Kaa = Brahma, L = destroyer known as Shiva, Moorat = creator of their forms God is the creator of the forms of Vishnu, Brahma and Shiva. Akwl mUriq Akaal Moorat Akaa = pain, L = destroyer, Moorat = being God is the one who eradicates all of the pain that a person endures. AjUnI Ajooni A = without, Jooni = birth God is free from transmigration and never enters the cycle of life and death. The Lord does not ever take birth from the womb of a mother. God is exempt from life and death. Those people who state that God has to endure life and death they will be banished to the depths of hell. AjUnI Ajooni Aj = Brahma and the others, Ooni = incomplete Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are incomplete compared to the Lord God. They are not even close to the great being or his equivalent. AjUnI Ajooni A = exempt, Jooni = illusion known as Maya God is exempt from the illusion known as Maya. God is the form of supreme consciousness. AjUnI Ajooni Aj = illusion known as Maya, Ooni = incomplete The illusion known as Maya is also known for not taking birth from another. God is different to Maya as he is complete in everyone. AjUnI Ajooni A = unique, Jooni = reason for the cause God due to being unique and distinguished is the cause of all in creation. AjUnI Ajooni A = in everything, Jooni = resides God resides everywhere and is the cause of all of creation. sYBM Sai Bhang Sai Bhang = self illuminating form God is the only form that is self-illuminated. sYBM Sai Bhang Sai = many, all or others, Bhang = illuminator The sun, moon, stars, a humans knowledge, etc all are illuminating however they all get their powers from God. God is the one who gives power and strength for others to illuminate whiles he self-illuminates. sYBM Sai Bhang Sai = many, all or others, Bhang = destroyer God is the destroyer of all that has been created. sYBM Sai Bhang Sai = is, Bhang = illuminated form God is the supreme form of illumination. sYBM Sai Bhang Sai = all beings, Bhang = illuminates In all of the beings that have been created God resides and he illuminates them with knowledge. God is the support for all of the beings. All of the beings that have been created all of the sense organs, the vital life force and the intellect are all illuminated and controlled by God. God also destroys them. gur Gur Gur = supreme consciousness God is the form of supreme consciousness. He is the real spiritual master and is worshipped by all. In all of creation he is the supreme spiritual master. gur Gur Gu = rids ignorance, R = Ru which means gives light or knowledge God is the being that destroys ones ignorance and gives a being knowledge. God is the form of supreme self-consciousness. In the Shiv Sangta it states that Gu stands for darkness. In the Sham Veda is states that R means the form of self-consciousness and one who gives light. It shows that God is the one who rids ignorance and replaces this with knowledge. gur Gur Gur = greatest The name of Gur is given for the greatest. God alone is the greatest. God is the foundation of all. gur Gur Gur = Gir which means to devour God is one who devours the ignorance of a persons. gur Gur Gur = scriptures and words from spiritual master Gur also represents the divine scriptures and utterance of the spiritual master. gur Gur Gur = weight, heavy Gur also means the heaviest or overwhelming. God alone is overwhelming. gur Gur Gur = never changing, constant God alone is constant he never changes. gur Gur Gur = enlightener, illuminator God alone is the illuminator of all the beings. gur Gur Gur = mountain Gur also means a great mountain. God is the greatest mountain. God is all of these things. pRswid Parsad Parsad = supreme bliss God is the form of supreme bliss. pRswid Parsad Sad = tastes, pleasure Par = away God is beyond all pleasure and enjoyment. pRswid Parsad Parsad = means abode of God or temple God is like a temple and he makes all a temple when he resides in all. pRswid Parsad Parsad = gives grace God is the one who gives grace to all others. pRswid Parsad Parsad = happy, delightful God is in a state of constant delight. God is all of these things. The translation with Gur and Parsad together is “with the grace of the true spiritual master one can attain the Lord”. End of translation 2

Translation 2 Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji were helping humanity and while on their travels went to the sacred site known as Mount Sumer. When they got there they found 48 Sidhs along with their leader known by the name of Gorakh Nath. The Sidhs asked Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, “What power brings you here?” Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji said, “O Sidhs, I have come here with the strength of the almighty Lord who is known as <>.” The Sidhs then replied, “According to the Vedas the name of God is given as Aum. Why have you said and used <> instead?” Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered the question posed to him. He said, “The word Aum stands for the trinity. It represents the virtues of passion, truth and darkness. These are the attributes of Maya who is the illusion. Due to this we have created the term <>. In the beginning to the incantation is the numeral one which shows that God is unique and has no duality. We have written this due to there being 63 different terms for Onkar, which cause controversy in Hinduism. There are three different forms of god given each with the form of the trinity, which becomes 9. There are 7 different knowledgeable people who have each given 9 forms. This makes it the total of 63 (9 X 7). These forms are shown below. 1) The first theory is called the Hirangarb, which is created by the demi god known as Brahma. This is also the theory accepted by the Patanjali order of people. The names and forms they use for God are – Trimatra Roop, Tribrahm Roop and Triakhar Roop. (Tri stands for the number 3 showing the trinity) 2) The creator of the Sankh Shastar who is called Kapal Muni says the names and forms of God are – Trigian Roop, Trigun Roop and Trikaran Roop. 3) Apatar Muni says that the names and forms of God are – Trimukh Roop, Tridevta Roop and Triparyojan Roop. 4) The order of Sanat Kumar who was one of the sons of the demi god Brahma states that the names and forms of God are – Trikaal Roop, Triling Roop and Trisangya Roop. 5) The order of Brahmnishta state that the names and forms of God are – Tristhan Roop, Tripad Roop and Tripragya Roop. 6) The order of Shiva state that the names and forms of God are – Trai Avastha Roop, Trai Bhog Roop and Trai Bhogta Roop. 7) The order of Baishnav and Narad Muni state that the names and forms of God are – Triaatma Roop, Trisubhav Roop and Tribyooh Roop. In this way from the 7 different orders we have 63 different definitions for Onkar. Showing that there was duality. The Christians believe God to be in three different forms and these are the Holy Spirit, God who is the father and the prophet Jesus who is the son The Muslims believe God to be in two different forms, which are God and the prophet. In order to get rid of all of these discrepancies and to show that God is unique the numeral one was added in front of the incantation. In order to end the dispute the numeral was added to show that there is no duality and there is no other similar to the divine Lord. We only eulogise about the one God, we only pronounce the name of the one Lord, we only are devoted to the one Lord, we are the devotee of the one Lord and God makes all of the people the devotees of the one Lord. In our faith the form of God is one and unique. In the Vedas God also is unique and has no duality. For this reason the Name <>does not differ from the authority of the Vedas. Onkar can be split into two separate parts when trying to find its meaning. The first part of it is Aum and the second is Kar. Aum can be split up into three different letters which are A, U and M. The three letters represent the words of Akar, Ukar and Makar. The word Akar represents the demi god known as Brahma. The word Ukar represents the demi god known as Vishnu. The word Makar represents the demi god known as Vishnu. According to the faith of Hinduism it states that these three demi gods are considered the most sacred and they are the ones responsible for the welfare of creation. The demi god Brahma is known as the creator, the demi god Vishnu is known as the provider or sustainer and the demi god Shiva is known as the destroyer. This shows that Aum represents the sacred Hindu trinity. The Kar represents the non-transcendent Lord God who has no end. The Kar is placed on top of the Aum. This represents that the sacred Hindu trinity of demi gods gain all of their powers from the greater being who we refer to as God.” The Sidhs heard this and asked, “ Please True King with your grace please tell us in this ambrosial incantation why have you written the numeral one in front of Onkar? In the Vedas there is no numeral in front so why did you do this?” Hearing this Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji answered their question saying, “ Our faith is for everyone and all of humanity. The incantation Aum in the Vedas is only for the Brahman social class of people as they can both listen to it and recite it. The social class of the Kashatris can listen to the word Aum but cannot recite it. The social classes of Shudras and Vais cannot listen to or recite the incantation. All of the women from all four of the social classes cannot listen to or recite the incantation of Aum. By putting the numeral of one in front of the incantation of Onkar we show that God has no duality and Ik Onkar can be read and recited by any one from any background. Those people who say the incantation of <>will be saved. For this reason we have created this incantation for all of the people of the world. Just as a cloud showers all the people with rain, in the same way the name of God is showering all of the people of the world with his grace and love regardless of race, gender, colour, creed, social class, etc. Unlike the Aum incantation everyone has the right to recite this incantation.” <> Ik Onkar Ik = one, unique, Onkar = the name of God Guru Nanak Dev Ji went on to fully explain the incantation starting with the numeral 1. The numeral 1 stands for a being that is unique and has no other similar to them. God is considered to be Sujati. This means God is the only one of his species and you can find no other like him. Unlike with any other species you can find them in numbers of more then one such as human beings. According to science there are over 6 billion humans in the world showing that an individual human is not Sujati as there are over 6 billion similar to them but God has no other remotely similar to them. God is Vijati. This means that God has no other species similar to him such as humans have other mammal groups, which are similar to them. According to science and the evolution theories of Darwinism and Lamarksism state that the primate family of apes is similar to that of humans and the human beings are their descendants. In this way there is no similar species to God. God is Svaigat. God was born from himself and does not have any limbs or attachments. A tree is born from a seed and has branches and flowers or fruit. A human is born from another human and has limbs such as arms and legs. Other creatures such as chickens are born from eggs. Animals such head lice are born from heat. God is unlike these species and was not born through the means of the womb, the egg, a seed or from heat. God was born from themselves and is the form of self-illumination. In this way God is Sujati, Vijati and Svaigat. God has no Des. God does not have his own land, which can be named. God does not reside in a specific land but everywhere at once. The Hindus consider God to reside in the east and face the rising sun when meditating. The Muslims consider God to reside in Mecca and face this direction when praying. The Christians and Jews consider God to reside along in the seventh level of Heaven. However God resides in all of these places all at once. God is present in all the lands as Guru Nanak Dev Ji showed in Mecca when the Kabba moved in the direction that their holy feet were turned in. They showed all the Muslims that God resides everywhere and does not have to be meditated to in a certain direction and cannot be confined to a single land. God has no Kal. At some point every being was born either during the day or night. God does not die due to this neither does his birth take place. His form is immortal. Due to this God is considered as timeless and cannot be placed into the concept of time, which is a man made concept. God is exempt from death and cannot be destroyed, his form is timeless. God can see all of creation and due to death it is created and then later perishes. Due to God not taking birth from another other them him he is exempt from the inevitable death, which all others face. Only God alone is exempt from death. God has no Vastoo. A being has three kinds of states. Vishav is considered the first state of a person. This is where the being is awake in the world. Taijasav is the second state of a person. In this state is when a person is asleep but is still dreaming. Pragya is the state third state of a person. In this state a person is considered to be in a dreamless state of their sleep. When God mixes will the illusion of Maya the Hindu faith states that there are three kinds of states. These are Vairat, Hirangarb and Abiakrit. Vairat – This is the state where a God mixes with the illusion. This is the awakened state. The form of this state is made up of all of creation. The head is made up of the seven heavens, the feet are made up of seven underworlds, the sun and the moon make up the eyes, mouth made from fire, the heart made of Vishnu, Shiva and Brahma make the two arms, oceans make the stomach, the rivers make the veins, the mountains make the bones, body hair made up of the vegetation, religion and sin making up the rest of the body. This is the form of the awakened state. This is the form that Sri Krishna showed his devotee Arjan on the battlefield of Kurakshetra prior to the commencement of the great battle of the Mahabharat. Hirangarb – This is the state when God is in the sleep state where they dream. Abiakrit – This is the state when God is in a dreamless state of sleep. Due to the illusion known as Maya these three states are known. God however does not have any of these states. These states have only been created due to ignorance of people. God is unique and has no duality. Due to this God does not have different states and does not have any need to rest or sleep. Due to God being Sujati, Vijati and Svaigat, also God having no Des, Kal and Vastoo he is one. This is the reason for placing the numeral 1 in front of Onkar. Onkar is the word that God said in order to cause the creation of the universe according to the Vedas and Sikhism. Although the Islamic belief is that the word said was Kun rather then Onkar. Onkar is the conventional and traditional incantation. 1) The Sanketa translation of Onkar is that God through the spiritual master gives one knowledge and illumination. 2) The Viakaaran translation of Onkar is that God is the protector of all and the root of all. 3) The Jogak translation of Onkar is that God is the one who take the air and vital life force into the tenth gate where when gains divine knowledge. 4) The Saints translation and Vaisno faith translation of Onkar is that God is the one who gives offerings to his beloved devotees. The offerings can be anything that the devotee wishes for. 5) The translation of the symbol of Onkar is the following; Onkar can be split into two parts. The first is On and the second is Kar. The On is the same as Aum. This can be split into three parts which are A, U and M. A - stands for Akar. This is attributed to the virtue of passion and represents the demi god called Brahma. U – stands for Ukar. This is attributed to the virtue of truth and represents the demi god called Vishnu. M – stands for Makar. This is attributed to the virtue of darkness and represents the demi god called Shiva. The Kar, which is the line, represents the Lord God. This is never ending and infinite like the Lord. This line when added to anything adds an infinite amount of fortune. This line also shows that the trinity are under the divine being and get their powers from God. 6) The Lai Chintan Se translation of Onkar is that it represents God’s different states. The Ukar in Onkar represents the Vairat form, the awakened state of the Lord. The Akar in Onkar represents the Hirangarb form, the sleeping state of the Lord. The Makar in Onkar represents the Abiakrit form, the dreamless state of the Lord. God takes the awake being into his Vairat form, the sleeping being into his Hirangarb form and the being in the dreamless state into the Abiakrit form. This way the being can always be with the Lord. The Kar shows that God is correct and is the one who gives knowledge to all beings. 7) The name of God Onkar by reciting it takes a person from his feet to his forehead and makes them greater. Due to this name it makes a person rise in the social ranks. 8) The word Onkar is made up of two letters and is the root of all. The translation for this is that god is the nourisher and takes care of a being. The one who says this incantation is provided for and nourished for by God. Whatever material object a person wants, that is provided for him. God provides everything that a person does not have. 9) The word Onkar also stand for the divine Lord. Anyone who recites this incantation shall become the Lord themselves. siq Sat Sat = immortal in the three realms God does not die in any of the three worlds, which are the heavens, the earth and the underworlds. God is the complete form of truth. siq Sat Sat = truth God in all remains true and makes all other beings the form of truth. siq Sat Sat = perceptive, sentient being who is the source of Maya God is a perceptive and sentient being who is the source of power for the illusion known as Maya. When God is mixed in with the illusion of Maya the great being gains the attributes of passion, truth and darkness. siq Sat Sat = truth God is the form of truth in every being. nwmu Nam Nam = name is well known God is well known. God is known by all and by the scriptures. God has never hidden away from all of creation. nwmu Nam Nam = one without attachment God has no attachment or infatuation towards another. nwmu Nam Nam = who has no similar phenomena God has no common phenomena similar to any other being. nwmu Nam Nam = without suffering or illness God does not suffer any illnesses and does not suffer from any ailment. nwmu Nam Nam = makes people aware of his glory God is the form of truth and he makes all of the people aware of his greatness. krqw Karta Karta = creator of the universe God is the creator of the entire universe. All of creation was made by him and in his accordance. krqw Karta Kar = Holder of the, Ta = Ta is short for Taar which means wire or thread. In this meaning it is the life thread of a person God holds in his hand the life thread of a person’s life. For this reason he is the true creator and controls the life of all beings in creation. krqw Karta Karta = the one who does all things With the grace of God one is able to do all things. The one creator makes all beings function. krqw Karta Karta = loves all beings God loves all of the beings and is found residing in all beings. purKu Purkh Purkh = complete God is complete and is complete everywhere. purKu Purkh Purkh = male being God is the only male. All other beings are female counterparts and should consider God to be their husband while they are the form of the wife of God. purKu Purkh Pu = hell, rkh = rakh with mean to look after, protect, keeps God is the one who keeps all beings from going into the depths of Hell. purKu Purkh Pur = heavenly realms, kh = sky God resides in all of the heavens. He is like the sky and is everywhere. purKu Purkh Pur = realms, villages, towns, kh = destroyer God is the destroyer of all of the towns, villages and heavens. purKu Purkh Purkh = courageous, great God is courageous, full of valour and energetic. purKu Purkh Purkh = gives opinions and views God gives each person a view and opinion on everything. God makes each person reflect. purKu Purkh Purkh = one who gives others impulse to exert God gives everyone the impulse to exert himself or herself. purKu Purkh Purkh = human being The word Purkh also stands for a human being. purKu Purkh Purkh = husband The word Purkh also stands for a husband, lord or master. purKu Purkh Purkh = virile male The word Purkh also stands for a masculine person who is virile and strong. purKu Purkh Purkh = saints The word Purkh also represents the saints. purKu Purkh Purkh = true spiritual master The word Purkh represents the true spiritual master. purKu Purkh Purkh = God The word Purkh is the name or term used for God. purKu Purkh Purkh = vital force, soul The word Purkh represents a soul or a person’s vital life force. purKu Purkh Purkh = ever present God The word Purkh represents the formless Lord who is ever present in all of creation. purKu Purkh Purkh = timeless Lord The word Purkh represents the timeless God. inrBau Nirbhou Nirbhou = no fear God is one who is without fear. He is the only being that is without fear and forever true. inrBau Nirbhou Nir = keeps all persons, Bhou = in fear God is distinctive and unique, due to this he keeps all beings in fear of him. inrBau Nirbhou Nir = give no, Bhou = fear The beings such as Ravan, Harnaksh and other demon beings who in this world were without fear, were given this sense of fearlessness so that God could consume and destroy them. Due to God being unique and distinctive he gave these individuals no fear. inrBau Nirbhou Nir = gives, Bhou = liberation Due to God being unique and distinct he is the liberator of all beings. inrBau Nirbhou Nir = does not take, Bhou = birth God is exempt from procreation and birth. inrBau Nirbhou Nir = exempt from, Bhou = sin God is exempt of all of the sin and good committed in all of creation. Hearing these meanings for inrBau the Sidhs then asked why not say Nirbhae instead of Nirbhou? Guru Nanak Dev Ji said they used inrBau for the following reasons. God is independent, free and self-governing. The human beings should not speculate on the creation of the Lord. God is not ignorant but is ever knowledgeable. The word inrBau was added as it represents the timeless Lord. inrBau represents the one Lord while Bhae represents the wind. In order not to show that anything other then God was being represented inrBau was added. Where the Guru’s have written the word inrBau they represent the one true timeless God. Only those who are ignorant would have scepticism in the sacred writings of the Guru’s on what the meaning of inrBau is. inrvYru Nirvair Nir = without, vair = enemies God is without enmity. God does not have any enmity with any being throughout the entire creation. God has no enmity as he resides in each person though their soul. Translation 2 to be continued

Translation 1 <> Ik Onkar Ik = one god without another equal, Onkar = gives light and knowledge There is only one god and there is no duality in his form. God gives light and knowledge to all. siq Sat Sat = indestructible God cannot be destroyed. nwm Nam Nam = well known The name of God is well known. krqw Karta Karta = Creator of all God is the creator of the entire universe. purKu Purkh Purkh = complete God is complete. inrBau Nirbhou Nirbhou = no enmity God is without enmity. inrvYru Nirvair Nirvair = no fear God is without fear. Akwl Akaal Akaal = immortal God does not succumb to death mUriq Moorat Moorat = form The form of God is immortal AjUnI Ajooni Ajooni = exempt from transmigration God is exempt from transmigration sYBM Sai Bhang Sai Bhang = self enlightened God is self-enlightened gur Gur Gur = perceptive and conscious God is the form of a perceptive and conscious being pRswid Parsad Parsad = supreme bliss God is the form of supreme bliss ] jpu ] Jap Jap = refers to the name of the prayer Jap is the name of the prayer. It is know referred to as the Sri Jap Ji Sahib but was originally called the Jap Sahib or Jap Nisan Awid scu Aad Sach Aad = primal beginning, Sach = truth Before the creation of anything the only thing in existence was God. Even then when he was alone he was true jugwid scu ] Jugaad Sach Jugaad = numerous ages, Sach = truth When the ages of Satjug, Treta, Dwapar and Kaljug started and the conduct to how to live was started God was still true. These ages are refereed to as the Golden Age, the Silver Age, the Bronze Age and the Dark Age. hY BI scu Hai Bhi Sach Hai Bhi = now is, Sach = truth God still is the form of truth in the present day and time nwnk hosI BI scu ]1] Nanak Hosi Bhi Sach. 1. Nanak = Guru Nanak Dev Ji say, Hosi Bhi = in the future, Sach = truth Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji says that in the future God will remain the form of truth.

please let us not make this into an issue, this post is about the sri jap ji sahib. if you want to start a new thread on the differnet schools of thought then please do so. I know veer Narinder SIngh said that he follows the choice of the panth to read the mool mantar to Gurparsaad. I will have to say that this is not an agreed move. This Akal Takhat will not make a decision on the issue of the Mool Mantar like wise the Raag Mala and Meat due to not wanting to split the faith. personally i can see their arguements for not making a decision. All i would say is Gurparsaad or Nanak Hosi Bhi Sach that is not the big issue, the issue is if one is repeating the name of the Lord then dont stop them. I will post the translations of the mool mantar accoring to the Damdami and Sato Gali taksal soon in english

Veer Narinder Singh can you please tell me the source of this quote that the Mool Mantar has been agreed by the Panth up to Gurparsaad. This issue along with the Raag Mala has never been agreed upon by the Akal Takhat and never will. Unfortunatly whatever the decision it will split the panth and due to this they allow both notions to be allowed such as allowing Akhand Paaths to be done with or without raagmala (PLEASE THIS IS NOT SAID TO START A DEBATE ON THE RAAGMALA. I DO NOT WISH FOR THE THREAD TO BE CLOSED) In the same way they do not mind the recitation of the Mool Mantar to either gurparsaad or nanak hosi bhi sach. All that the sangat wants is for one to repeat the name of the Lord which is the most important I will post tranlations of the Mool mantar according to the two taksal steeks as soon as i can

THere are currently two schools of thought on this topic. One is that the Mool Mantar ends at Gurparsad which is accepted by the new schools of thought such as the AKj, 3HO and scholars. The second schools of thought state that the mool mantra ends at Nanak Hosi Bhi Sach, these schools as Nihangs, Nirmalas, Sewapanthis, Udasis, Damdami Taksal Sant Samaj and all mahapursh The mool mantra has numerous meanings, for more details of the meanings please listen to the Jap Ji sahib katha by Giani Thakur Singh or better then that would be reading the steeks of Damdami Taksal and Sato Gali

Cheerz Shaks, just to let all know that the sewapanthi site is run by Tirath Singh Nirmala who icurrently in India. He has also produced the first english translation that i am aware of the Bhavrasamrit by Pandit Gulab Singh Ji. Very good book

A quick addition to the thread with a further website provided by tsingh Did I ever post the link to the other Mitha Tiwana site before with the photos? I hope I did. This site must be run by the successor Mahant to Mahant Tara Singh, Baba Pritpal Singh. Mitha Tivana have a similar enterprise nr Darbar Sahib, at Baba Sahib Singh Chownk, just down from the Baba Mohan Singh Taksal Vidyala. That Mitha Tivana is under Baba Surinder Singh Ji. Here's the site again; http://deramithatiwana.tripod.com/

Whilst searching the net i came across a website of dera Mittha Tiwana Hoshiarpur. The gurdwaras name is Dera Hari Bhagatpura. The website has limited info on it but has some nice audio. Keertan by Bhai Balbir Singh, Sant Niranjan Singh Ji Jawaddi Kalan Walae, Sant Pritam Singh Ji Sewapanthi. Also Katha by Bhai Pinderpal Singh The link to the site is below http://www.amritbanimp3.com/Kirtan.htm enjoy

Sorry!!!!

I would recommend going on either google or youtube and listening to english discourses by YOgi Harbhajan Singh. If i find any others i wil let you know.

Sant Niranjan Singh Ji Patiala Walae are a well known Sadhu Sant and their knowledge of Gurbani was very good. Well searching through the net i found some old videos of them performing Katha of the Sri Gurpartap Suraj Granth. This Katha is from 1989 and is in 16 parts. Also if you have not heard of Sant Niranjan Singh Ji their katha and four free books are available from www.sikhnation.com i highly recommend the books, they are some of the most used books in the gurdwara library The links to the videos are below part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4TpFyv_POQ...ser&search= part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADEF00Bxi1U...ted&search= part 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sy58o6e1v4...ser&search= part 4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afv-TwVlECw...ser&search= part 5 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AmoPm3p93I...ser&search= part 6 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br1aYFaAV-Y...ser&search= part 7 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIcr1lZNY8c...ser&search= part 8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxLYwHSEB-4...ser&search= part 9 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNPw_HATC4U...ser&search= part 10 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scGKbbtgfTw...ser&search= part 11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McXc9hWQenE...ser&search= part 12 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seKU3AjbVbQ...ser&search= part 13 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN9td_O2zM8...ser&search= part 14 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tz2e6NBdgE...ser&search= part 15 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cbZfaPS5LBw...ser&search= part 16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIWMEb5JEEo...ser&search= enjoy

Pal 07 i can see that you are a polished jewel and are aware of what is important in life. The name of the Lord. Keep this stuf coming

A load of Katha videos can be found on the net by Dr Bhai Sahib Singh 'Rattan' who is the president of the Sikh Heritage in Tampa, USA. Most of the Katha is on the Sri Jap Ji Sahib but there is also katha on Hukamnamas and other topics as well such as superstition. The length of each katha video is betwoon 20 - 60 minutes. The links to the katha videos along with their titles are listed below Katha Hukam Bujhai So Jogi Kahiai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=0 Katha about superstition http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=52...h&plindex=1 Katha Hukam Bujhai So Jogi Kahiai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=2 Gurmat questions and answers http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...h&plindex=3 Katha Ae Sareera Meria http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=80...h&plindex=4 Katha Holi Kini Sant Sev http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75...h&plindex=5 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=6 Katha Karam Khand Ki Bani Jor http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=56...h&plindex=7 Katha Thapia Na Jaee http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=19...h&plindex=8 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=62...h&plindex=9 Katha Vahu Vahu Gobind Singh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...&plindex=12 Katha Gurdwaray Hoi Sojhi Paysa http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...&plindex=13 Katha Nava Saal 2007 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...&plindex=20 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...&plindex=12 Katha Baramaha Vaisakh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...&plindex=13 Katha Sabh Te Vadda Satgur Nanak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...&plindex=14 Katha TU Aaya Kere Kamm http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9...&plindex=15 Katha Dharam Khand Ka Eho Dharam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=68...&plindex=16 Katha Baramaha Jin Jin Naam Dhiaya http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=17...&plindex=17 Katha Poota Mata Ki Asees http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=53...&plindex=18 Katha Sansaar ROgi Naam Daru http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=25...&plindex=19 Katha Nanakshahi http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...&plindex=20 Katha Baramaha Pokh Thukhar Na Viapee http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...&plindex=11 Katha Sochai Soch Na Hovai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...&plindex=12 Katha Baramaha Fughan http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=84...&plindex=13 Katha Baramaha Assan Prem Umahrah http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=72...&plindex=14 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=37...&plindex=15 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=74...&plindex=17 Katha Baramaha Har Jeth Jarandra Loriyai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&plindex=18 Katha Sunniai Sidh Peer Sur Nath http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=66...&plindex=19 Katha Sunniai Ishar Brahma Ind http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=10...&plindex=11 Katha Je Jug Charay Arja http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&plindex=14 Katha Aasar Tapanda Tis Lagai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...&plindex=15 Katha Sunniai Sat Santokh Gian http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...&plindex=16 Katha Sacha Sahib Sach Nai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...&plindex=17 Katha Tilak Janju Rakha Prabh Taka http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=82...&plindex=19 Katha Gavai Ko Tan Hovai Kissai Tan http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5037491427235488553 Katha Mannai Surat Hovai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5749945354251866435 Katha Sunniai Sara Guna Ke Gah http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5816053254536168953 Katha Ik Onkar Satnam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5643413969572626358 enjoy A load of Katha videos can be found on the net by Dr Bhai Sahib Singh 'Rattan' who is the president of the Sikh Heritage in Tampa, USA. Most of the Katha is on the Sri Jap Ji Sahib but there is also katha on Hukamnamas and other topics as well such as superstition. The length of each katha video is betwoon 20 - 60 minutes. The links to the katha videos along with their titles are listed below Katha Hukam Bujhai So Jogi Kahiai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=0 Katha about superstition http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=52...h&plindex=1 Katha Hukam Bujhai So Jogi Kahiai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=2 Gurmat questions and answers http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...h&plindex=3 Katha Ae Sareera Meria http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=80...h&plindex=4 Katha Holi Kini Sant Sev http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75...h&plindex=5 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=6 Katha Karam Khand Ki Bani Jor http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=56...h&plindex=7 Katha Thapia Na Jaee http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=19...h&plindex=8 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=62...h&plindex=9 Katha Vahu Vahu Gobind Singh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...&plindex=12 Katha Gurdwaray Hoi Sojhi Paysa http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...&plindex=13 Katha Nava Saal 2007 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...&plindex=20 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...&plindex=12 Katha Baramaha Vaisakh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...&plindex=13 Katha Sabh Te Vadda Satgur Nanak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...&plindex=14 Katha TU Aaya Kere Kamm http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9...&plindex=15 Katha Dharam Khand Ka Eho Dharam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=68...&plindex=16 Katha Baramaha Jin Jin Naam Dhiaya http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=17...&plindex=17 Katha Poota Mata Ki Asees http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=53...&plindex=18 Katha Sansaar ROgi Naam Daru http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=25...&plindex=19 Katha Nanakshahi http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...&plindex=20 Katha Baramaha Pokh Thukhar Na Viapee http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...&plindex=11 Katha Sochai Soch Na Hovai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...&plindex=12 Katha Baramaha Fughan http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=84...&plindex=13 Katha Baramaha Assan Prem Umahrah http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=72...&plindex=14 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=37...&plindex=15 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=74...&plindex=17 Katha Baramaha Har Jeth Jarandra Loriyai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&plindex=18 Katha Sunniai Sidh Peer Sur Nath http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=66...&plindex=19 Katha Sunniai Ishar Brahma Ind http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=10...&plindex=11 Katha Je Jug Charay Arja http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&plindex=14 Katha Aasar Tapanda Tis Lagai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...&plindex=15 Katha Sunniai Sat Santokh Gian http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...&plindex=16 Katha Sacha Sahib Sach Nai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...&plindex=17 Katha Tilak Janju Rakha Prabh Taka http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=82...&plindex=19 Katha Gavai Ko Tan Hovai Kissai Tan http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5037491427235488553 Katha Mannai Surat Hovai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5749945354251866435 Katha Sunniai Sara Guna Ke Gah http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5816053254536168953 Katha Ik Onkar Satnam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5643413969572626358 enjoyA load of Katha videos can be found on the net by Dr Bhai Sahib Singh 'Rattan' who is the president of the Sikh Heritage in Tampa, USA. Most of the Katha is on the Sri Jap Ji Sahib but there is also katha on Hukamnamas and other topics as well such as superstition. The length of each katha video is betwoon 20 - 60 minutes. The links to the katha videos along with their titles are listed below Katha Hukam Bujhai So Jogi Kahiai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=0 Katha about superstition http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=52...h&plindex=1 Katha Hukam Bujhai So Jogi Kahiai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=2 Gurmat questions and answers http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...h&plindex=3 Katha Ae Sareera Meria http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=80...h&plindex=4 Katha Holi Kini Sant Sev http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=75...h&plindex=5 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...h&plindex=6 Katha Karam Khand Ki Bani Jor http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=56...h&plindex=7 Katha Thapia Na Jaee http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=19...h&plindex=8 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=62...h&plindex=9 Katha Vahu Vahu Gobind Singh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6...&plindex=12 Katha Gurdwaray Hoi Sojhi Paysa http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...&plindex=13 Katha Nava Saal 2007 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...&plindex=20 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...&plindex=12 Katha Baramaha Vaisakh http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1...&plindex=13 Katha Sabh Te Vadda Satgur Nanak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...&plindex=14 Katha TU Aaya Kere Kamm http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9...&plindex=15 Katha Dharam Khand Ka Eho Dharam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=68...&plindex=16 Katha Baramaha Jin Jin Naam Dhiaya http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=17...&plindex=17 Katha Poota Mata Ki Asees http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=53...&plindex=18 Katha Sansaar ROgi Naam Daru http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=25...&plindex=19 Katha Nanakshahi http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3...&plindex=20 Katha Baramaha Pokh Thukhar Na Viapee http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...&plindex=11 Katha Sochai Soch Na Hovai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4...&plindex=12 Katha Baramaha Fughan http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=84...&plindex=13 Katha Baramaha Assan Prem Umahrah http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=72...&plindex=14 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=37...&plindex=15 Katha Sri Mukhvak http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=74...&plindex=17 Katha Baramaha Har Jeth Jarandra Loriyai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&plindex=18 Katha Sunniai Sidh Peer Sur Nath http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=66...&plindex=19 Katha Sunniai Ishar Brahma Ind http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=10...&plindex=11 Katha Je Jug Charay Arja http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...&plindex=14 Katha Aasar Tapanda Tis Lagai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=85...&plindex=15 Katha Sunniai Sat Santokh Gian http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...&plindex=16 Katha Sacha Sahib Sach Nai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=51...&plindex=17 Katha Tilak Janju Rakha Prabh Taka http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=82...&plindex=19 Katha Gavai Ko Tan Hovai Kissai Tan http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5037491427235488553 Katha Mannai Surat Hovai http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5749945354251866435 Katha Sunniai Sara Guna Ke Gah http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5816053254536168953 Katha Ik Onkar Satnam http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5643413969572626358 enjoy Switch to full edit form

Again whilst searching google video i came accross a video on the Jap Ji Sahib Vichar by Yogi Harbhajan Singh Ji. I aven't had a chance to watch thib but i think it would be good link attached below http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7...h&plindex=2

Attached is a link to a video on a yatra to the Sri Hemkunt Sahib. It is around 56 minutes long and is good to watch. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8252200668673318447 enjoy

keep it going neo

Justme if you contact amrit bani radio and find out the contact details of Gurbaksh Kaur who supplies the DVDs and CDS from Ratwara sahib to all. Contact her or Jagtar Singh and i am sure they will be able to oblidge as they were the ones who got me the books. Otherwise they would be available at Ratwara Sahib. the following thread is a quick discourse taken from Discourses of the beyond part 02 about the Chakras! I pesonally found this article very interesting http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?showtopic=2345&hl=

Sant Waryam Singh Ji were a fountain of knowledge i would recommend people read the atam marg magazines which can be found on the net. this was Baba jis magazine in both punjabi with short english articles at the end. Baba Jis divans come on amritbani radio every night. 66 divans can be found on sfsikhcenter.com with 12 - 15 more on keertan.org and rajkaregakhalsa.com I would recommend baba jis set of books called 'baat agam ki' which is a set of 7 books. It is also tnslated into english with only the first five are available under the title of 'Discourses of the beyond' the knowledge i n them is vast and deep. Also worth watching is a video of Baba Ji teaching the sangat how to meditate which can be found on the link below http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...93&hl=en-GB enjoy

Inspire, the Sri Yog Vashisht is written by Rishi Vashisht who was the brahm vidya guru of Sri Ram Chandar. This can be purchased at DTF books or at the book stores outside Sri Darbar Sahib in India

Jai Tegang with regards to the seva i think the webmaster deserves all the credit there to the gurmatveechar site he is a guy working a 40 hour week but strives to bring parchar full or many many jewels of knowledge to the home of the listeners. With regards to the katha i am afraid to say that the stuff being put on the site is about the best we can get it. Unless we had some really serious money then taksal could contact a real recording studio to do it professionally. This is our community we talk about but no one is willing to spend that sort of money. We are all striving as hard as we can in order to make all the sangat rich with the jewels of knowledge from the katha but at the moment this is as clear as we can get it. I wish we could do more but the reels that i have been given are in such a shocking state that to sort the mp3 that is on this thread took me about 4 hours to do. I am slow on the computer and i think that was the major factor. I hope that the sewa performed by gurmatveechar, keertan.org adn sfsikhcenter.com continues and this aatam gian and brahm gian continues to spread. Personally for gian i would recommend listening to anything by taksal, Baba Ishar Singh Ji Rara Sahib Walae, Pandit Mangal Singh and my personal favorte Sant Waryam SIngh Ji Ratwara Sahib Walae who give alot of gian out during their parchar