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The same Moranwali that was married here in the UK has a child and then went back to India and got married! Why don't the media show his true colors this guy is beyond being fake. He wont come to the UK for a reason....

The point was the news report agrees with the 84 Lakh on this planet! Other planets would mean a lot more then 84 Lakh since we are talking infinite numbers... Guru Ji came to this planet so it could be that the soul is assigned to a planet and goes through the cycle before being given the human life. Other planets would have a variety of different species and numbers..

Joons translated is species.

Something i discovered when i was driving and heard this on the radio that research suggests that there are roughly 8.7 million species on this planet (rough estimate so could be rounded up to +3 million or -3 million) But strong evidence suggest a number between 8-9 million.

Source

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-14616161

The reason i am posting this is because i know in Guru Granth Shaib Ji it states that there are 8.4 million species on this planet and reincarnate through all these. <<< Thats Amazing 500 years before we had the capacity to discover or even understand how many species existed.

Just posted for those that missed this...

I know that, you know that, but prior to Gurgadi, Guru ji was called as Aad Granth. If you are historian then you should know that and write according to that. Secondly no other written source has been brought up to support this. We are not talking about simple execution.

Chaupai : When the Singhs received such a decree from the Guru,

They massacred and burnt alive all the masands.

Some were slaughtered; some were buried alive in walls,

Still others were dragged and roasted in cauldrons of boiling oil. (16)

If this kind of execution have been ordered by Guru ji then people who were against sikhs might have written so much about Guru ji. It is brutal so and so. But there seems to be no other version then Pracheen Pant Prakash and not even anti-sikhs writter of that time, particulary of Guru ji's time. No sikh writer or no other writer of Guru ji's time talks about it. Don't have blind faith, just first cross-check the whole story. If there is writting of this incident by historian with evidence of that time bring it up. No katha.

This is something the Moguls did to Sikhs and Hindus! i Cannot Believe our Guru would ever do this. I am astonished people will believe anything without proper research. We were given though a limited but perfectly usable brain. Lets use it properly!

Eh wekhlo Dad.... ur Gursikhs are judging u for what u have been doing.....

They r judging ur actions... Dad... :angry2: :angry2:

Its not "Judging" you have to remember that history can be manipulated as you were not there so the question was asked to see if there was evidence to suggest this was true. A lot of our history could easily be manipulated by the use of fraudulent Janum Sakhis written by people with sinister motives i.e. The British.

why would you think guru ji never killed anyone , do you like to think about fairy tales and that our guru would walk in war with flower in hand?

our father is a khashatri , he himself never refrained from doing righteous deeds - including killing people in battle .

example how he chopped the attacker in half when he was attacked in sleep.

i know its different between passing judgement and killing in war

even though he ordered to kill in sirhind for chote sahib jaade

Sorry if im rude

So whats the difference between Sikhs and the Taliban? Defending yourself in war is different from giving someone the death penalty! I can understand especially if they did very bad deeds but me for one cannot see our Great Father doing this.

Someone who was against oppression the way the Mughals ran there empire.

So its true that Guru Ji killed the massands? Is this sourced from a Janum Sakhi? I cannot believe this happened especially for something like money!

WJK WJF

Did Guru ji give the death penalty to someone for stealing money?

If so Is this right? Please explain why this was given....

WJK WJF,

Did Guru Ji give someone the death penalty for stealing money? I read this somewhere and also asked an elder and he confirmed that this did happen but i am not sure...

Wouldn't this go against what Guru Granth Shaib Ji teaches us? Especially over something like money...

Sorry the above link i already read but it doesn't answer my question. There must of been a start to our karma for example there must be a point in time we were born for the first time at this point were we all equal?

WJK WJF,

I have been thinking about this for a few weeks now and everyone i ask i get an answer that doesn't really answer anything so i thought i would post it here and see if anyone here can help...

Sikhi talks about Karam (Past Lives) and that we "reap what we sow" but there must of been a time that we had a our real first birth where we didn't have any past lives what happened then were we all equal?

You don't get western mainstream media playing offensive music, there are broadcast rules and media watchdogs in the West.

You do look at hip hop/rap music from the mainstream... pure dirt

Why not practice ones faith and stop questioning others? God is one for all the more time spent doing naam simran and seva the better leave out the "my religions better then yours" cr*p.

Thank you

Waheguru this is Sikhi in its real form

Thank you

WJK WJF

I have done various searches on the internet and spoke to people and all come with different answers, so i thought i would post this up here.

So is God in Sikhism personal? If possible could you give examples Bani that explains this.

Thank you :biggrin2:

WJK WJF

best section in my opinion!

btw, just to add, the god particle is not reely god god, as in, a god field.. its jus how particles aquire mass. its still part of the 11 dimensions. like, u got 3d universes like ours, u also have 5D universes too.. 5D universes are 3 spacedimentions as we know tem, +1 extra dimention of space. +time. its not +2 dimentions of space as some get confused.but, u go all the way up, increasing the dimentions, u get to 11 dimentions, and thats what we know as 'the bantar' as in, jo vee kush banaaya. though this is soooo far from whre we are, god is still, further than this distance.meaning, as we are in 3D, u take it up to 11D, and its distance X. from 11D, to god, is distance Y. so, distance Y is much further than distance X. but still! look at hoe nex level far distance X is!! its crazy!

science cannot so far, see further than 11D. ok so, 11D is true, cuz if u have 15D, it will always collaps bck to an11D universe (or multiverse). its explained so beautiully in this vid. its on u tube. understandig the 11th dimentiuon or summin like that.. its like a cartoon an starts with saying, imagine a line..... ill post it on here. if i find it..

imagine that the 11th D is a dot, u can have loads of dots in some medium. this realm is tbh, too abstract even for at atm..

Thank you for your explanation can you find the youtube link please?

Apart from saying Dhandriwale apart of this i would disagree and this 2009 has tried to keep away from the curropt sant samaj.

I thought Bhai Jagtar Singh didnt accept that he or any Sikh was responsible for thr cinema blast and instead were hatched by govt agencies. Can you confirm as those blast killed innocent people tottally against Sikhi.

Thats anti competitve if he owns all the channels. We need a sikh channel in India funded by SGPC

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Yes, good point, they can! Many Sikhs watch it over the internet. Although, the Sikhs of the UK refuse to support their media voice, the Sikh Channel, for some reason! I still cannot work out why!!!

Because they find an excuse to say that the money is being taken by the owners etc or there is enough advertisement to cover the cost.

I for one believe all Sikhs should pay 4 pound a month - thats a sandwich, packet of crisps and a drink. And we cant even give that to our panth?

This is true as Sikh Channel were showing this last evening.