Jaz

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KharkooSingh, I am no defender. I seriously couldn't give a crap wot u really think. If you think you are a real defender I would like to see you come to the Gurdwara with these pictures to discuss with the ppl there. Letz see you do some defending for the panth!!!! No excuses please!!!

KharkooSingh, who said I'm passing the blame. All I'm suggesting is that if you have a problem u need to take it up with the Gurdwara. No point sitting about and talking about it on the forum wasting time.

All you guys seem to do is gossip and take no action. So why is that no one has approached the Gurdwara then?

Oh a quick note KharkooSingh you also need to get your facts right about the Sach Khand they are not standing above the Sach Khand.

I have nothing more to add to this topic, i have no more time to waste.

Jaz Singh

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I totally agree with Sat1176 and that the guys on this website are attacking Gurdwara Karamsar for some reason. How can you say that the Gurdwara is behind these pictures? You know wot the photographers are like. I’m sure the Gurdwara doesn’t even know about these pictures. I'm sure Ikki will be going to the Gurdwara to discuss this with them. Am I right in saying this Ikki?

Another point I would like to make. If these pictures are wrong I believe all photography should be banned while the wedding is happening because most of the time the photographers are doing beadbi any way.

Also, if you think these pictures are bad you should try and attend some of the other weddings within East London Gurdwara’s (mentioning no Gurdwara names) they actually take pictures like these in the main Gurdwara hall with Dhan Guru Granth Sahib Ji present. So therefore, this is nothing compared to other Gurdwara’s wouldn’t you say?

Also a note to the author of this thread:

Ikki, if you have a problem with Karamsar which you do reading your previous posts, why don't you simply print off the pictures and take them to the Gurdwara and discuss it with the ppl there. I’m sure they are willing to listen to your views. Wot I have noticed about you Ikki is that your all mouth and no action. You’re so quick to judge. If the Gurdwara is doing wrong then why not just simply talk to the Gurdwara instead off spreading false rumours. You don't even know where the Such Khand is? Get your facts right. You’re quick to shoot ppl in the foot but have no real answer to the solutions.

How would you like you it if you’re wedding pictures were plastered all over the internet. Did you even ask permission of the couple who these pictures belong too? The answer is most properly NO.

So a humble request please remove these pictures and speak with the Gurdwara if you have the bottle!!!!

Jaz Singh

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Wots wrong with handing out banana's?

Jaz Singh

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GSS, I totally agree with you. Ur right Baba Ji will not tolerate that kind of behaviour. If any one of ur sisters of any issues of this kind of nature they should get their parents to speak with Baba Ji direct and I'm sure baba ji will take action.

Jaz Singh

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I still can't see Bhai Bhupinder Singh Ji saying to the Sangat to give him money and do Matha Tek. I can understand ppl touchin his feet as the respect element.

Jaz Singh.

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Prabhjoyt Singh that is not a guy it is actually a Sant. Trust me good friend do not listen and read any of the rubbish some ppl have posted about karamsar. These ppl have no real evidence and facts. So please do ignore.

Jaz Singh

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Pyara, how dare you mention Sant Partap singh Ji's name. Do you even know him? Have you ever spent 5 mins with him? Do you really think that Sant Partap Singh Ji needs a PR stunt? Mate u got a lot to learn. Did Karmsar even invite him to the Gurdwara. Well the answer is NO. So get a grip and grow up. Where is the evidence that he was invited. Mate, infact ur neither a mate or a brother because a nindak of a Sant.

I have read a few of your posts and trust me you need to start learning the fundamentals of sikhi because if you can't say anything good about a person don't say anything bad.

Jaz Singh.

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TavPrasad Singh u mentioned that Karamsar is trying to be the number one gurdwara in the area. let me tell u something it's not trying to be BUT is the number one for the reason becoz there is peace in that place of worship. Why haven't you ever thought why do the sangat go there? Please answer.

Secondly, the other gurdwara's around the area are just jealous of Karamsar becoz majority of the sangat finds peace there and the other Gurdwars are just worried about their bank balances. If you have any problems please just go to the gurdwara instead of stating poision in the mind of the sangat.

Thirdly, ur stupid remarks regarding publicity about the Gurdwara, trust me that this Gurdwara needs no publicity. Anyway if Micheal Jackson, David Beckham and Amitabh Bachan or even Swami Ji wanted to come to the Gurdwara who are we to stop them plus how would this be a publicity stunt. Please explain.

Jaz Singh

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Kharkoo Singh I would have to disagree with you on the comment regarding speaking over Akhand Path. This does not only happen at Karmasar, I have been to many Gurdwara's where this happens within the UK. I would not like to mention any Gurdwara's all I can say it happens within the East of London and I have seen one in the Midlands.

Jaz Singh

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I have spoken with someone who attended and have advised that the Microphone was not turned off when the path was happening, the mircophone was not turned on. So what u r clearly saying is that when an Akhand Path is happening and when the secetary of any Gurdwara turns the mic off to do a speach to inform the sangat this is wrong. Therefore, ur comments don't make any sense. As far as I am concerned the comment that you have made should be pointed to every Gurdwara not just at Karmasar because the same has happened at every other Gurdwara that Swami Ji has visited.

That picture doesn't prove anything. What does prove? No one is askin you to do matha tek. If you are not comfortable then don't it. But you cannot force ur opinion upon other ppl. Infact that person is not doing matha tek she touching the feet like we would to our mother, father our anyone older than us.

Jaz Singh

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I thought this topic was closed.

Where's the evidence man!!!!! Even I could make up a story. hehehehe.

I have known of Bhai Bhupinder Singh from back in the days i find really hard to believe wot u r saying!!!!

Jaz Singh

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Look how can this be a PR attempt from Karmsar! Did Karamsar personally invite Ramdev Ji? I don't think so, he wanted to pay his respects and to see the new gurdwara for himself, infact he has been to other Gurdwara's in the area plus been to Madars and mosques. Anyway he only came for about 15mins!

In sikhi everyone is welcome to the Gurdwara weather it be swami ji or not. Some ppl need to go back to the basics of sikhi and learn the true fundmentals instead of picking on ppl. At least he is doing some good which is more than us. All we seem to do is moan about ppl.

Karmsar has done nothing wrong, some people on Sikhsangat have no idea and without facts and evidence are misleading the sangat.

Jaz Singh

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I have motorbike and live in England. The laws says that Sikh do not have to wear a helmet.

However, I don't wear one when I ride for short jorneys. But long distance for safety reasons I think the helmet should be woren. Simply wear a patka and then the helmet on top.

The choice is ur's.

Jaz Chana

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I have just read the story, and wot an amazing stroy it is.

It's all about seva and simran.

Jaz Singh

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I have just read the jokes. They are really bad and should not have been posted in the fist place.

I was also a little disappointed with some off the comments that us sikhs made on that website. We shouldn't really be dizzin any religion.

Jaz Singh

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Here's a few site:

www.rarasahib.com

www.jargsahib.com

www.bhorasahib.com

Enjoy! :TH:

Jaz Singh

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Try www.akji.org

Jaz Singh

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Well, how do u know the food that we all buy from any supermarket is made with succham? For example biscuits, chocolate, veggie burger etc, etc. If we start thinking in this way we would neva eat anything. lol. Just my view!

Totally agree with Randip Singh if you are concerned then take your own food with u.

Jaz Singh

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I would say stick to the arrange marriage. Speaking from experience (not been married long) I have neva looked back. I was introduced to my wife through family friends and I showed the picture of my wife to Sant Ji and they thought about it for a few mintues and they told me not to say no and that I would be really lucky.

Next minute all i knew was I was flying out to India to get engaged to this girl that I had neva met. A year later we were married. Me and my wife are really happy.

Jaz Singh

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I play football with quite a few of the guys from the local Gurdwara. None of us are really good. It's a bit of fun and a good form of keeping fit.

I also play tennis in the summers, usually with my brother.

I try to go to the gym 3 times a week. Not that it makes a different to me. lol :TH:

Jaz Singh.

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Don't let that put u off from going to the Gurdwara. I'm sure there is other seva that you could do for example langar di seva, help serving, joraha di seva (shoes) etc.

Jaz Singh

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Yes, it was an enjoyable evening. Bhai Joginder Singh Ji and Bhai Mohinderjit Singh Ji were excellent.

Jaz Singh

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I attended the Atamras darbar friday night at Karamsar Gurdwara Ilford, had amazing time listening to the ragis.

Jaz Singh

I have been 2 days at Karasar Gurdwara to listen to Baba Ji's diwan. I have to say amazing diwans. If you guys get a chance and Baba Ji's coming to your area do go to the diwan.