shastarSingh

Home made electric cycle which can be used and demonstrated in the eco village in punjab.

11 hours ago, proactive said:

This the root of every problem in Punjab, whether it is social, religious or even ecological. The lack of a decent government is what has held Punjab back for the last 2-3 decades. Positive change can only come about once the people understand that one of the most valuable things they possess is a vote. 

Solar farms can sell solar power to govt. but also directly to private industries and factories.

10 hours ago, Premi5 said:

Are there any in the whole of India ?!

No govt. is completely eemandaar but some state govt. do some good things for their people.

Hyderabad was made an IT hub by their intelligent CM.

Yogi, though a fuddu Bjp guy, has done massive solar power work in his State.

Proactive veerji

Dallysingh veerji

Plz give ur opinion!

45 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Good effort on this thread singh. I’m now thinking of possibly adopting a solar panel installation in my ancestral Pind’s gurughar. 

i still think that pollution is still a problem for cities or pinds close cities as well. Same with dust storms in arab countries and large industrial pollution in China. 
 

see below article:

…. 

New research has found the smog and dust that sickens millions across India every year is also sapping solar power generation by more than 25 percent, far beyond levels previously thought.

In the first study of its kind, US and Indian scientists measured how man-made particles floating in the air and deposited as grime on solar panels combined to seriously impair sunlight from converting to energy.

This interference causes steep drops in power generation, they found…

https://phys.org/news/2017-09-air-pollution-india-solar-success.html

Govt. used to give subsidy on solar panel installation which stopped due to corona.

It will start again and initial investment can be recovered in about 2 years instead of 3-4 years.

Plus in Ludhiana some banks give loans with 7% interest rate for solar panel installation.

24 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Good effort on this thread singh. I’m now thinking of possibly adopting a solar panel installation in my ancestral Pind’s gurughar. 

i still think that pollution is still a problem for cities or pinds close cities as well. Same with dust storms in arab countries and large industrial pollution in China. 
 

see below article:

…. 

New research has found the smog and dust that sickens millions across India every year is also sapping solar power generation by more than 25 percent, far beyond levels previously thought.

In the first study of its kind, US and Indian scientists measured how man-made particles floating in the air and deposited as grime on solar panels combined to seriously impair sunlight from converting to energy.

This interference causes steep drops in power generation, they found…

https://phys.org/news/2017-09-air-pollution-india-solar-success.html

Just had talk with my friend who deals in solar panels.

He said that for some days/weeks, smog etc. does hv a negative effect but still solar panels function pretty ok.

Moreover, companies in Ludhiana take the smog effect into account and the price is adjusted accordingly.

Companies in Ludhiana give 25 year warranty and 45 years is the minimum life of solar panels.

28 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

Proactive veerji

Just to clarify things

If you hv a solar farm, you can sell solar power to govt. and make money.

Due to corruption in the govt. , it's not signing many agreements with solar farms, but if good govt. comes, we can hv solar farms all over punjab.

If u install 3KW(sorry I wrote mega watts earlier) solar panel on the roof top of ur house, it will cost around 2 lakh rupees.

If u generated 12 units a day and used 15 units from govt. grid, govt.  will bill u for only 3 units.

If u used 12 units from govt., u will hv zero bill.

If u used 10 units from govt, govt. Won't pay u for the 2 units u gave to govt.

Basically, solar farms can solve all electricity problems of punjab if an eemandaar govt. comes.

Shine Solar energy solutions is a solar company in Ludhiana and they hv the know how to revolutionize punjab with solar energy.

Their contact no. +91 8872045945

If u hv solar farm, u can earn money by selling electricity to the punjab govt.

If u use solar panel on the roof top of ur house, u can't earn money but u can make ur electricity bill zero or close to zero.

13 minutes ago, S1ngh said:

Won’t the haze/smog/paddy burning and industrial pollution etc makes the solar ineffective in major cities such as Ludhiana? 

No

Solar panels, solar geysers and solar inverters r being used successfully in Ludhiana but not to the extent they shud be used as people are reluctant to make the initial investment.

Same people hv no problem spending lots of money on cars, phones etc.

Also watch

2 hours ago, proactive said:

If that is the case and the Punjab govt buys excess solar power for the power grid then isn't it possible for NRP (yes, no- resident Punjabis, not no-resident Indians!) to invest 3-5 lakh rupees which is roughly £3,000-5,000 and within the financial means of a NRP family to install solar cells on top of the roofs of their mostly locked up properties and then they would get their money back say within a year, because whereas for a resident Punjabi they would be using much the power supplied by the solar cells for their own electricity needs but the NRPs as they do not reside in their houses in the village would be selling over 90% of the power generated into the Punjab power grid. Surely, for the Punjab govt paying NRPs for the solar power generated through such eco-friendly means rather to generate the same power burning expensive coal imported from outside the state for coal fired power stations? This stop Punjab taxpayers money from being sent to other states and that money will be paid to Punjabis who will then invest it in the state leading to an economic boom in the state and a increase in the states GDP. 

For the more benevolent NRPs after they had got their initial investment back after the first year they could donate the subsequent years of the money from the power sold to the village so that a fund could then me created to improve and modernise the infrastructure of the village. An agreement could be made whereby the village would agree to supply a electrician from the village who would be responsible for maintaining the solar cells. This money could also be used to fund initiatives such as eco farming, gobar gas plants etc. It seems to be a win-win situation for all

Considering that many Punjab villages have over 50 to 100 households of NRP, then if most of them take part in this scheme then the fund could easily turn the village into mostly eco-village over a decade or so. Punjab could have 24/7 power and the access to 24/7 would allow for innovation and entrepreneurship on a large scale. If the logistics of using 50-100 separate rooftops is unfeasible then the village community could donate a few acres for a 'solar farm' where all these solar cells installed by NRPs could be located in one place and the above could all be done more easily. 

Plz watch

2 hours ago, proactive said:

If that is the case and the Punjab govt buys excess solar power for the power grid then isn't it possible for NRP (yes, no- resident Punjabis, not no-resident Indians!) to invest 3-5 lakh rupees which is roughly £3,000-5,000 and within the financial means of a NRP family to install solar cells on top of the roofs of their mostly locked up properties and then they would get their money back say within a year, because whereas for a resident Punjabi they would be using much the power supplied by the solar cells for their own electricity needs but the NRPs as they do not reside in their houses in the village would be selling over 90% of the power generated into the Punjab power grid. Surely, for the Punjab govt paying NRPs for the solar power generated through such eco-friendly means rather to generate the same power burning expensive coal imported from outside the state for coal fired power stations? This stop Punjab taxpayers money from being sent to other states and that money will be paid to Punjabis who will then invest it in the state leading to an economic boom in the state and a increase in the states GDP. 

For the more benevolent NRPs after they had got their initial investment back after the first year they could donate the subsequent years of the money from the power sold to the village so that a fund could then me created to improve and modernise the infrastructure of the village. An agreement could be made whereby the village would agree to supply a electrician from the village who would be responsible for maintaining the solar cells. This money could also be used to fund initiatives such as eco farming, gobar gas plants etc. It seems to be a win-win situation for all

Considering that many Punjab villages have over 50 to 100 households of NRP, then if most of them take part in this scheme then the fund could easily turn the village into mostly eco-village over a decade or so. Punjab could have 24/7 power and the access to 24/7 would allow for innovation and entrepreneurship on a large scale. If the logistics of using 50-100 separate rooftops is unfeasible then the village community could donate a few acres for a 'solar farm' where all these solar cells installed by NRPs could be located in one place and the above could all be done more easily. 

Proactive veerji

Just to clarify things

If you hv a solar farm, you can sell solar power to govt. and make money.

Due to corruption in the govt. , it's not signing many agreements with solar farms, but if good govt. comes, we can hv solar farms all over punjab.

If u install 3KW(sorry I wrote mega watts earlier) solar panel on the roof top of ur house, it will cost around 2 lakh rupees.

If u generated 12 units a day and used 15 units from govt. grid, govt.  will bill u for only 3 units.

If u used 12 units from govt., u will hv zero bill.

If u used 10 units from govt, govt. Won't pay u for the 2 units u gave to govt.

Basically, solar farms can solve all electricity problems of punjab if an eemandaar govt. comes.

Shine Solar energy solutions is a solar company in Ludhiana and they hv the know how to revolutionize punjab with solar energy.

Their contact no. +91 8872045945

32 minutes ago, proactive said:

If that is the case and the Punjab govt buys excess solar power for the power grid then isn't it possible for NRP (yes, no- resident Punjabis, not no-resident Indians!) to invest 3-5 lakh rupees which is roughly £3,000-5,000 and within the financial means of a NRP family to install solar cells on top of the roofs of their mostly locked up properties and then they would get their money back say within a year, because whereas for a resident Punjabi they would be using much the power supplied by the solar cells for their own electricity needs but the NRPs as they do not reside in their houses in the village would be selling over 90% of the power generated into the Punjab power grid. Surely, for the Punjab govt paying NRPs for the solar power generated through such eco-friendly means rather to generate the same power burning expensive coal imported from outside the state for coal fired power stations? This stop Punjab taxpayers money from being sent to other states and that money will be paid to Punjabis who will then invest it in the state leading to an economic boom in the state and a increase in the states GDP. 

For the more benevolent NRPs after they had got their initial investment back after the first year they could donate the subsequent years of the money from the power sold to the village so that a fund could then me created to improve and modernise the infrastructure of the village. An agreement could be made whereby the village would agree to supply a electrician from the village who would be responsible for maintaining the solar cells. This money could also be used to fund initiatives such as eco farming, gobar gas plants etc. It seems to be a win-win situation for all

Considering that many Punjab villages have over 50 to 100 households of NRP, then if most of them take part in this scheme then the fund could easily turn the village into mostly eco-village over a decade or so. Punjab could have 24/7 power and the access to 24/7 would allow for innovation and entrepreneurship on a large scale. If the logistics of using 50-100 separate rooftops is unfeasible then the village community could donate a few acres for a 'solar farm' where all these solar cells installed by NRPs could be located in one place and the above could all be done more easily. 

Excellent ideas!

The solar panels available in the market come with 25 years guarantee.

Plus lots of work and research is being done on solar panels to make them more efficient and less expensive.

Apart from solar panels, solar geysers and solar inverters r also getting popular.

The eco village i m imagining in punjab would be easily reached by road.

It will be powered by solar panels and we will sell our extra electricity to the punjab govt.( yes punjab govt. buys solar electricity).

Not all eco villages are totally off grid.

Not all eco villages are in secluded places. Some are near to cities as well.

36 minutes ago, proactive said:

This is the best way to bring them over to Sikhi. More and more are realising that their ancestors made the worst mistake possible in the 19th century becoming  part of the Manuvaadi society by joining the Arya Samaj. The Jats of Haryana has like the Jats of Punjab successfully resisted becoming the Shudars within the caste society that the Brahmins offered them. The Arya Samaj offered them 'equality' within their 'casteless' Arya society and they accepted this but all they really received was the exact same Shudar status that their ancestors had rejected over a thousand years ago. The Rajputs of their area still looked down on them as did the higher caste Brahmins.  They now also realise that the only religion that best suits their ethnic and cultural characteristics is Sikhi. It would be impossible to expect that they would all become Amritdhari in a few years, the best way is to increase their attachment to Sikhi with each passing day. The first step has already been taken, they have mentally become accustomed to feeling that they are not Hindus and that they want to become Sikhs. This is the biggest step because everything else stems from this first step, to stop going to the Mandir and to go to the Gurdwara instead, to change the rites of passage from Hindu to Sikh. To go from the Vedic marriage to the Anand Karaj, to go from having a Havan ceremony to having an Akhand Path or Sukhmani Sahib Paath. 

That's right

Unfortunately there are some people who believe that the first thing to do with jaats is to make them amritdhari.

Another jaggaarr that can be used in an eco village in punjab.