shastarSingh

27 minutes ago, AkalkiFauj said:

A granthi singh shouldn't need to steel from a golak. They should be well payed 

What's well paid? People are just not satisfied with anything they get these days.

Hv u ever seen a granthi's body weak and starving?

They get good room to stay, good food to eat and all they have to do is read Dhur ki Bani.

Hari Singh randhawe wale steek is the best.

Jagjit Singh harkhowal steek is the poorest.

Surjit Singh sewapanthi steek is good.

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Wonderful topic!

Sikhs shud hv good understanding of geo politics.

World is getting multi polar world......

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

Are they under the Indian government? 

 

From what I know, it's the govt. of india which decides when sgpc elections are held.

On 9/10/2021 at 6:42 PM, shastarSingh said:

Nri Sikhs gave millions of dollars/pounds to kejriwal. Kejriwal used all that money on Delhi instead of punjab.

Baba jaswant Singh told nri Sikhs that he will open dental college for poor sikh students. He got lots of money from nri Sikhs. My sister studied in that college. It's all about money there and no poor Sikhs study there. Even Hindu girls who can offer good money study there.

So many people on the name of khalistan got loads of money from nri Sikhs. Where that money went nobody knows.

Why nri Sikhs give so much money to people without checking/enquiring where that money gets used?

Plz listen at 9:00 sec

Some people using kisan andolan to fool nri Sikhs.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=373328954372129&id=100050850813377

16 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

He made himself approachable whereas Western youth Sikhs feel daunted to ask a Giani because a lot of them feel Gianis are unapproachable. 

Why they feel so?

9 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

I know Panjabi vocabulary that the average pendu from back home doesn't (and I taught myself)

That's good.

But even if a western Sikh's vocabulary is weaker than Punjabi sikh, that shudnt be an issue.

I m born in Punjab but when I read gurbani, there are large number of words I don't understand.

If a western sikh does lots of gurbani paatth and memorizes the meanings of tough words, he will have better understanding of gurbani than Punjabi sikh.

10 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

Because like I said before we have a culturally inferiority complex. Our lack of Punjabi and us being too western hinders us.

How come Bhai jagraj Singh of basics of sikhi didn't feel culturally inferior?

He single handedly did so much parchar and prepared young western born parcharaks who are still doing great sewa.

I feel if western Sikhs keep rehit and do bhagti they won't feel inferior to Punjabi Sikhs.

A Waheguru's devotee doesn't feel inferior or dependent on anyone.

17 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

India is a messed up place and quite frankly the people disgust me.I suspect many Western Sikhs feel the same. 

Why western Sikhs have not able to produce local parcharaks and kirtaniyas and gianis?

Why so much money is wasted in importing parcharaks kirtaniyas and "brahmgyani" babaas from india almost every weekend.

11 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

People want to help and they trust too easy.

Because we believed that Indian residential Sikhs have higher morals than the foreign Sikhs who have been westernised. 

Indian Sikhs have typically been put on a moral pedestal as they are seen as more authentic and idealised in a way Western Sikhs feel they wish they were.

We western Sikhs feel guilty about not being in touch with our culture so we over-compensate.

Our parents that came from Punjab in previous eras made us feel guilty about our western ways so much that when we meet our cousins from Punjab who are own age group, we feel that is how our parents wish we were. 

However, the reality is very different. 

When we realise that Indian.Sikhs are not better than us Western Sikhs it creates a lot of cognitive dissonance and this becomes resentment. 

When you are brought up and raised to think of a segment of your quam as superior to you, you realise that you been lied to all your life when reality bites and you have lots of rage and anger.

When you put people on a pedestal and they do not meet expectations then the fall from grace from the eyes of a Western.Sikh is great than the Indian Sikhs fall into a gutter. 

I hope this articulates things in a more clear way.

I am born and brought up in punjab but due to my good education, I have travelled abroad.

I won't talk about general Punjabis but I find western born practicing Sikhs much more honest and spiritual. Lots of practicing Sikhs in India are so hypocritical and arrogant.

When sikhi will become global, it will be due to the honesty and spirituality of western born naam abhiyasi gursikhs.

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I remember hearing about some pardaan in Southall Gurdwara, collecting a bunch of funds to buy a tank for the K'stan movement. He took a massive amount of Gurdwara funds and then just disappeared with the money, this was in the 80s! lol

Rural apnay have this herd like mentality, and if they have some event or cause, they don't want to look cheap because they feel it shows on their reputation, so they make a show of contributing, to prove they are 'down for the cause'.

What I'd want to know is, what is the SGPC/Akali Dal doing about the shaheed families? They aren't short of funds. I'd have thought even those lowlifes would have sorted out the families, even if for the wrong reasons i.e. to make a show of their 'religiosity'. But that just shows you what we've been talking about regarding desi mentality - they happily give out whiskey for votes but leave these families hanging. And all of the desi folk just tolerate it. 

And then you wonder why some of us (who would love a Sikh country!) think the idea of K'stan is ridiculous given these characteristics (which are pretty much norms) in the panth right now.  

Not just shaheed parvaars, but also dharmi faujis, we haven't been able to help them too.

Sgpc is all chor.

They could have opened good sikh schools that would have stopped sikh parents sending their kids to convent Christian schools.

They could have opened small hospitals or dispensaries.

They could have opened many drug deaddiction centres.

They could have helped in parchar on jaats, gujjars, sikligars, vanjaras.

They could have translated sikh literature into Hindi and other Indian languages and done parchar of sikhi all over India.

45 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I remember hearing about some pardaan in Southall Gurdwara, collecting a bunch of funds to buy a tank for the K'stan movement. He took a massive amount of Gurdwara funds and then just disappeared with the money, this was in the 80s! lol

Rural apnay have this herd like mentality, and if they have some event or cause, they don't want to look cheap because they feel it shows on their reputation, so they make a show of contributing, to prove they are 'down for the cause'.

What I'd want to know is, what is the SGPC/Akali Dal doing about the shaheed families? They aren't short of funds. I'd have thought even those lowlifes would have sorted out the families, even if for the wrong reasons i.e. to make a show of their 'religiosity'. But that just shows you what we've been talking about regarding desi mentality - they happily give out whiskey for votes but leave these families hanging. And all of the desi folk just tolerate it. 

And then you wonder why some of us (who would love a Sikh country!) think the idea of K'stan is ridiculous given these characteristics (which are pretty much norms) in the panth right now.  

Just look at widow colony in Delhi.

DSGMC is super rich as well as the Delhi Sikhs........

32 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Bottom line: We care too much,

Nri Sikhs shud keep caring about Sikhs in India but shud do so wisely.

There are many families of shaheed Singhs who are in pretty bad shape.

On the other hand some fuddus got money from nri Sikhs on the name of khalistan or Kharrku lehar and used that money on making their big kothis.

Nri Sikhs shud be watchful against such deceivers.

29 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

Are you saying Indian Sikhs DON't get fooled ?

You are right. Indian Sikhs are so easily fooled by babaas or by immigration agents.

But nri Sikhs living in first world countries, u expect them to be more wise.

Nri Sikhs gave millions of dollars/pounds to kejriwal. Kejriwal used all that money on Delhi instead of punjab.

Baba jaswant Singh told nri Sikhs that he will open dental college for poor sikh students. He got lots of money from nri Sikhs. My sister studied in that college. It's all about money there and no poor Sikhs study there. Even Hindu girls who can offer good money study there.

So many people on the name of khalistan got loads of money from nri Sikhs. Where that money went nobody knows.

Why nri Sikhs give so much money to people without checking/enquiring where that money gets used?

6 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I think you're wrong, it was the angreez that alienated the panth from Dasam bani. 

But at present its Indian agencies