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37 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:
Why don't we use them like they were intended first???
There is another beautiful text hanuman natak which is not gurbani but is very powerful.
Guru Sahib can put life or power into any text.
Guru Arjan dev ji put power into bhai gurdas ji's Bani.
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The below is from kamalroop Singhs article on the paintis akhari.
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A similar but much longer bani by Guru Nanak Dev Ji about the Gurmukhi
alphabet is called Paṭī Likhī meaning ‘Writing on the Slate’, and it is in the Adi Sri Guru
Granth Sahib Ji. In this composition the Guru states, ‘No accounting is due from the
Gurmukh who understands the riddle through these letters.’ This also shows the status these letters had for him and also proves he actually standardised the system of
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44 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:
There is no end of shankaas.
Sikhi starts with ek onkaar and some "scholars" say oankaar is Hindu word.
We shud have faith in Khalsa panth and puratan organizations like taksal and nihangs. They have their shortcomings too but they would never call a fake Granth as gurbani.
So if they call Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth as gurbani, we shud have faith in it.
Once the Indian agencies backed "parcharaks" finish off Dasam Bani from the memory of Sikhs, they are not going to stop. They will put shankaas on the bhagat Bani of Guru Granth Sahib by doing wrong meanings of below shabad.
https://www.sikhitothemax.org/shabad?id=3650&q=dhan dhan o raa&type=4&source=G&highlight=42141
Finally we will be left with nothing but shankaas.
Putting shankaas is the best weapon in the hands of the enemies of Sikhs to finish off sikh religion.
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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:
I think he came around in the end.
We should also understand the source of the shanka on Dasam bani - the colonial period. The literature produced in that time still has an enduring effect on the minds of many apnay (even if indirectly). We should understand that these may not be very mentally strong and susceptible to outside influences.
There is no end of shankaas.
Sikhi starts with ek onkaar and some "scholars" say oankaar is Hindu word. So we can have shankaas on the pronunciation of ek oankaar.
We shud have faith in Khalsa panth and puratan organizations like taksal and nihangs. They have their shortcomings too but they would never call a fake Granth as gurbani.
So if they call Dasam Granth and Sarbloh Granth as gurbani, we shud have faith in it.
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6 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:Well Khan Singh says it was written by a court poet which is possible. I feel we need to do more research on this and Sarbloh Granth
Kahn Singh was a great sikh scholar but he was human and can make mistakes.
Gobind gita is maharaj's rachna.
Sarbloh Granth Sahib is amazing gurbani for warrior Sikhs and for the prosperity of the panth. No need to do research on the authenticity of Sarbloh Granth Sahib.
Many times research by human mind creates more doubts than resolving doubts.
Jaggi did research on Dasam Granth Sahib.
In one thesis he was pro Dasam Bani and in 2nd thesis he was against Dasam Bani.
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Nice bhangra by hare Krishna
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3 hours ago, shastarSingh said:
Even gurwinder Singh nangli who is a very big scholar of panth believes in this sakhi. He says that this sakhi is written somewhere in ayodhya and is distributed among people there.
Dallysingh veerji
What do you make of this sakhi?
Can it be true?
We have account of every battle fought by Guru Sahib. How come we missed this battle?
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On 9/4/2021 at 5:59 PM, Ranjeet01 said:
What kind of stamp was it?
Was it a postage one or was it an ink one?
R u making fun of my angrezi? Lol
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12 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:
What's their source?
Even gurwinder Singh nangli who is a very big scholar of panth believes in this sakhi. He says that this sakhi is written somewhere in ayodhya and is distributed among people there.
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7 hours ago, Arsh1469 said:
Any evidence that Guru Ji wrote Gobind Gita? I believe in all of Dasam Granth but for the removed banis I am skeptical. I know it is in some Dasam Granth Birs wrriten by Baba Deep Singh Ji but do we know definitively that he wrote those Birs and if yes what is the evidence? Do any historical texts mention it?
I consider Khalsa panth as my Guru as well, so I believe the word of panth when they say that the bir is written by baba deep Singh ji.
We shud not be asking for proof or evidence for every thing.
Gobind gita is also mentioned in Sarbloh Granth Sahib.
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I hv never heard that Guru Gobind Singh ji fought against the mughals to save ram temple of ayodhya.
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1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:Thanks for the heads up!
Just had a brief scan through Gobind Gita and unless I'm mistaken chunks of it seems to be about the very subject of casteism? We need to translate and share relevant sections.
If any poetic chhand of Gobind gita talks about casteism, it shud be seen as translation. Same as rass leela section in krishan avtar of Dasam Granth Sahib is seen as translation.
Gobind gita is deep literature just as other compositions of Dasam Granth Sahib.
It's an adaptation from krishan gita. It has 3 kind of baani
1. Translation from krishan gita
2. Translation with editions and changes by Guru Sahib
3. Totally new baani of Guru Sahib.
The below falls in 3rd category and clearly states that in sikhi there is no room for varna system.
ਬਰਨ ਆਸ੍ਰਮ ਤੁਮ ਸਕਲ ਤਿਆਗੋ ॥
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24 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:
This means that Gurbani has not been enough to remove the caste system. Something else is required then.
R u questioning gurbani?
Same can be said about kaam, krodh.... etc
This is kaliyug and very few people follow religion properly and honestly.
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28 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:
The bible condones slavery but the westerners moved along with the times and made changes. In fact they refer to their hyper religious, following everything in the bible phase as The Dark Ages.
Has Sikhi removed the caste system? Not even close. Look at how many Gurdwaras are dedicated for separate castes. The sad thing is that casteist Gurdwaras are more prevalent in the west than in India.
Gurbani does not promote caste. Punjabis do.
On the other hand, according to some scholars gita is casteist and promoter of violence.
My main point is we don't need gita parchar from our stages.
Gita has both good and false teachings. It's kachi Bani same as bible and Quran.
On one side we hv fake missionary "scholars" who will abuse gita or anything related to Hinduism.
On the other side, we hv sampardayee gianis who hv nirmala teachers and they glorify krishan "bhagwan" and gita.
The Sangat is being misled by both.
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According to some scholars,the below verse of gita is casteist as well as anti woman.
O son of Pritha, those who take shelter in Me, though they be of lower birth—women, vaishyas [merchants] and shudras [workers]—can attain the supreme destination
Bhagwat Gita 9.32
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43 minutes ago, ChardikalaUK said:
Every civilisation has had a class/caste system. In Europe commoners were banned from wearing certain items of clothing that only the upper class could wear. Even just 50-60 years ago most sons followed the same profession as their fathers. The sad thing is that India is 50 to 100 years behind in thinking to the west in this regard today.
Brahmin varna system is evil.
It's not just about work.
Brahmin is worshipped and shudra is treated like animal.
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Nirmala darshan Singh shastri has printed the Gobind gita from the Dasam Granth sarup written by baba deep Singh currently at Patna Sahib.
He has also done its sudhayee with some other puratan Pothis of Gobind gita.
Go to gurmatveechar.com
Click on steeks and teekas
And look for Gobind gita by sant darshan Singh shastri
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Gobind gita pdf available on the internet which is gela ram publication has many mistakes. Additional lines r added at the end of each chapter which are not in the gobind gita of Patna Sahib Dasam Granth Sahib
Plus at the end of the 18th chapter, a line has been added "Sri krishan bhagwan sada bhull chukk bhakhshand". It's literary crime.
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2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:Veerji the above is from gela ram publications. It has many mistakes plus at the end of every chapter,lines r added which are not in the gobind gita of Patna Sahib Dasam Granth Sahib.
It's literary crime.
Gobind gita printed by darshan Singh shastri is shudh and correct.
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52 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:^^^^ Don't know if the above is indicative of the whole work though. Tried to find the above in scanned internet versions but had no luck.
Gobind gita is deep literature just as other compositions of Dasam Granth Sahib.
It's an adaptation from krishan gita. It has 3 kind of baani
1. Translation from krishan gita
2. Translation with editions and changes by Guru Sahib
3. Totally new baani of Guru Sahib.
The below falls in 3rd category and clearly states that in sikhi there is no room for varna system.
ਬਰਨ ਆਸ੍ਰਮ ਤੁਮ ਸਕਲ ਤਿਆਗੋ ॥
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29 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:U can get a much better version of Gobind gita than the above which has many mistakes.
Nirmala darshan Singh shastri has printed the Gobind gita from the Dasam Granth sarup written by baba deep Singh currently at Patna Sahib.
He has also done its sudhayee with some other puratan Pothis of Gobind gita.
Go to gurmatveechar.com
Click on steeks and teekas
And look for Gobind gita by sant darshan Singh shastri
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Beware of Gobind gita on internet!
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
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Haanji.
Even today the education system in India is very bad. There is no spirituality in it.
That's why all youngsters of India, not just Sikhs, are doing kalyugi activities and r becoming more naastak and less aastak.