RebelSingh

That's their choice. I personally hope they have a very happy life together, away from narrow-minded prejudiced people.

well i though sikhi doesnt suppot homosexuality? anyways, wat i mean at the very least IS, that they better not have had a anand karaj/marraige ceremony at the gurdwara, coz thats the final straw and indication, that the world has gone mad! Men and women can only marry each other infront of our gurus and sikh can only marry sikh, i didnt think this was a very instruction from our gurus. seems like it is.

Edit: "wat i wanted 2 write was;

i didnt think this was a very HARD/DIFFICULT instruction from our gurus."

maybe he couldent hit 10 different people in 1.5 seconds but its probably possible to make 10 strikes in 1.5 seconds, 1 second is alot longer than ppl think it is! lol

watch this:

LOL yea tru bro, i never sed ajit singh cud hit TEN ppl, i sed 10 hits, if u watch nihang videos in combat (like niddar) or look at old pictures of all the weapons they have at their disposal, all over their bodies, u can c they have various ways to attack ppl, from chakars, to karras, to short chakus, massive khandas, massive kirpans etc

Someone mentioned 10 strikes in 1.5 seconds. Come on! Please don't twist facts to big up our shaheeds. Pretty soon people will stop believing all historical stories of courage because of all the masala that gets added. These Singhs were amazing warriors, lets not make them into mythological beings. Or else in the future, people will start doubting everything told to them about our history

ppl like u need 2 have more faith in our religion and its glories and capabilities. BTW im not makin this up, i heard/read this statement somewhere (but i cant remember where from). By ur lack of acceptance of sahibzada ajit singh's skills, this means that the stories of;

1)Guru Hargobind talking to the python/snake about its previous janam - is jus load of all tosh

2)How puratan/nihang singhs (high on 24/7 naam simaran/dasam bani) could run faster than horses (according to yogi bajhan) - that must b compete bakwaas

3)Guru Gobind Singh cutting 5 heads off and re-attatchin them 2 different bodies on vaisakhi day 1699 (according to mughal soldier eye witness/later convertin 2 sikhi himself) - complete bull init!

4)baba deep singh fighting with his head on his palm (according to pathan soldiers)- that must b complete make-believe too

its funny @SinghInTraining has given us a link 2 a oriental person using their martial arts 2 showcase his 17 HITS in 1.5seconds, and 15 HITS in 1 second. SOOOO all u haters, wat u say now? Coz i was gonna use east asian martial artist of proof that u can hit many many times in 1-2seconds, im a HUGE fan of kung fu films, watch any jackie chans early 80's films, n u can c wat hardwork can do 2 ur reflexes.

So no there isnt any masala being put on here.

HURRRRRRRRRR

Well Guys 2 Lezzers Have got married in Panjab, This surely cant b allowed

http://www.punjabspectrum.com/2012/04/1614

wat r ur thoughts on this?

Off topic, KopSingh you've got a very dirty mouth. I saw your comments on youtube and they sicken me. I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't a Sikh just trying to cause problems.

well done for tryin 2 defame me, i stick up for our community on the wider media sources (youtube), n u even have the nerve 2 question whether im a sikh, pathetic!

Off topic, KopSingh you've got a very dirty mouth. I saw your comments on youtube and they sicken me. I wouldn't be surprised if you weren't a Sikh just trying to cause problems.

u seen my comments on youtube, YES, but have u seen who i have 2 deal with??? i have 2 deal with ppl callin our gurus the most disgustin names u can think of, muslims/hindus and fake pro-india sikhs talkin nonsense, i wud like 2 c how long ur mind can take their insults, before u start using swear words. However even after all that, i do not say anything about their prophets/gods or religions.

so how dare u judge me, u do not know who i am, or anything about me. Only Kalgiwalia can do that, so leave it out son.

Mods can u make sure this message gets thru, seems like bit of a witch hunt, here, thank you

This guys right bro. Watch the language you use when referring to Sikhs like Baba Ajit Singh Ji. We don't refer to Guru Gobind Singh Ji as a "bad a s s" do we? Watch the slang and speak about them with respect

my friend i only reffered 2 baba ajit singh as "bad b-o-i" because of his military skills n knowledge in shastar vidya, i didnt realise ppl wud find it offensive. i assure u im not disrespectin our shaheeds.

bro we r all ready to pick up hatthiyar, but the thing is, like rajoana has said recently, that the struggle for independance, may not lie with shastar/weapons, but with the pen, and the media etc.

Ive heard about this before 2 . It was a hand to hand combat right?/

if ur referring to SV, then yea its got hand to hand combatting, but also obviously uses weapons. like its been mentioned earlier, its all about using the least amount of energy required to kill the opposition as possible, so u can go on and on.

rebel singh you meniton:

But shastar vidya, is taught/learnt to KILL! sahibzada ajit singh could make 10 hits in 1.5 secs! thats y in chamkaur he was a *removed*

seems admins are sleep again - DO NOT REFER TO O SAHIBZADA AJIT SINGH AS A BAD BOY -

WE DON'T NEED YOUR GORA COCONUT LANGUAGE TO DESCRIBE OUE GREAT SAHIBZADAS - WATCH YOUR TYPING CONNECT IT WITH YOUR BRAIN IF YOU HAVE ONE

LOOOOOL gora coconut language?

1)im sorry wat language r u writing in now? Last time i checked, english language comes from england, not panjab, so therefore 95% all of posts r gora coconut posts!

2)2nd of all i was speakin in slang, that comes from BLACK culture (patois), not "GORA" culture.

3)i was giving upmost respect 2 sahibzada ajit singh, we cant even be the dust of ajit singh's feet.

4)stop trying to act all saintly like a baba, its pathetic!

5)we dont all come from rich £500,000 houses n rich areas, sum of us r, from poorer areas, workin class families, speak local slang etc

LOL, isreal had the latest up-to-date military weapons and artillery and fighter jets etc in the 1970's war they had with egypt/syria etc, which was given 2 em by the yanks, even when they ran out of stocks of this stuff, the americans were right on cue at the expense of their own military, to provide more jets/weapons etc.

also in isreal, EVERYONE, n i mean everyone, MUST do national service (i think age of 13), boys and girls must do it. so when Isreal is ever invaded or attacked, there is no excuse for the military lackin numbers, coz everyone has practised in their lifetime how to pick up guns/rifles and how to shoot enemies. fantastic idea i reckon, i believe south korea do the same too.

When Khalistan/Azad Panjab is made in the coming yrs, i reckon everyonje should do military service at a certain age, so everyone has knowledge of how to fight invaders, shud they attack.

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10 hits in 1.5 seconds ?? Who told you that wheres the historical sources that quote this ? The higher Vidyas are those of Jhakta..i.e: to kill instaneously with one blow, effort or energy is not wasted...therein lies the skill...to out think, out manouvere the opponent to such a position where you can take a superior tactical position and strike vital points, you do not engage and waste blows until the opponents structure has been misalinged allowing you a clean strike.

What would be the point in landing 10 hits in 1.5 seconds, when skill and tenchnique allows elimination of the enemy in a single strike ?

to be honest i cant give u a source, as i genuinely cant remember where i inherited this info from, but i remember listening/reading this, and was quite astounding at the time to hear that myself. I'll look on the net n see if i can find it.

Plus u say whats the point in wasting eneergy with 10 hits, but the 10 hits is not on the 1 person, its 2 multiple ppl, fore example if ur surrounded, jus like in chamkaur. Its been documented that baba ajit singh, was one of the most skilled persons in our itthihas (history). Theres a story of when he was 10/11 yrs old n with a few khalsa with him, was outnumbered considerably, they went and got back a kidnapped hindu women. i cant remember the story fully, maybe sum1 else can tell it properly. But the fact that at such a young age he was given responsibilty like that, tells u of his ability, that guru gobind singh had belief in.

do u learn SV? i wish i could, but living in a crap town like luton, wat u expect.

safe

btw @ _Guest_ what is a hijra?

Khusra, haemaphrodite, *edited*

what is shastar vidya compared to gatka

shastar vidya is a martial art that was used by rajputs, they then forgot it, sixth guru, Guru Hargobind Singh, then was taught it, then from Guru Gobind Singhs time, to the khalsa rule/nihangs/misls all used shastar vidya (i believe). when the british took over panjab empire (through deciet/backstabbing), they killed all/most nihangs on the spot in a mini genocide, so that the future sikhs coudnt learn shastar vidya from the nihangs. dasam granths were removed etc. the sikhs were only then allowed to do "gatka", which is like a "light shastar vidya", its more of a demonstration type of thing (as its been described by others). physically its good, its more stick play, more of a game, altho u can defend urself from the enemy in the street, shud u learn it.

But shastar vidya, is taught/learnt to KILL! sahibzada ajit singh could make 10 hits in 1.5 secs! thats y in chamkaur he was a *removed*!!!

Mod note: I can understand the sentiment you are expressing with the bad boy comment but it seemed to have offended some members so I have removed it.

Difference In Cholay?

i dont kno, but they taste great with patooray rotis

no offence bro, but gatka is nuthin compared 2 shastar vidya, altho only teacher of that is niddar, who is controversial, but if u jus ignore his philosophy, but learn the martial art itself, u will b sum1, no 1 wants 2 mess with. i wish i cud live in an area where SV is taught.

dont b suprised, this is the same zee tv, whos channel "zee music" here in the uk during the mid 2000's put a ban on panjabi videos, which had sardars in their!!!

sure enough the channel went out of business, LOOOOOL!!

now britasia has all the panjabi videos on their now, n they r the most popular asian channel, wihtout doubt, EFF zee tv

this is the first case i've seen when they done it to one of their own... http://www.dailymail...teen-blame.html

to be honest these r bangalis, but regarding someone saying the paki$ dont do it to their own, trust man they do, but difference is, it'll never be leaked 2 the press/police. White parents dont come from a culture where they feel shame 2 tell their business 2 the wider community/police. whereas apnay/paki$/asians will keep these secrets 2 themselves.

Kaash kithe vaapas aa jaan "shere panjab", jina nai angrezi suthi kaum nu jagon di koshish kithi, but no 2 listened 2 them, even our stupid ol farts in the gurdwaras.

oh and one big big question, WAT R THE MASJIDS doin about this, and how does the mum/dad feel after their sons/paedos r exposed/jailed/photographed in the papers? do they jus bury their head in the sand, which is wat they do, wen their sons r drivin £50-£100,000 cars, n they havnt worked a day in their life? shockin, dirty kashmiri/mirpuris, they shud all b sent back! pathan/panjabi muslims r nice ppl to, canada/scottish sikhs r lucky, they have mostly panjabi paki$ around em.

I was trying to do neither...how is it spelled? I thought I spelled it right but w/e.

Anyway he never converted to Sikhism. He converted to budhism

i kno he did, thats y if u read my post #13 reply to HDSH, i sed the sikh jatt leaders feared that if he converted 2 sikhi, then he'd influenced the dalits, the dalits wuda therefore followed suit, thats nearly 60-80m dalits, therefore the jatts wudda become a minority.

i already discussed this on another thread - http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/66441-who-did-the-most-damage-to-sikhism/

That actually never happened ! He intentions was never to join sikhi. Our leaders did their best, including opening up a khalsa college in the area of chureh-chamar in bombay so that they can get fresh course on the introduction of sikhi. That college is still in bombay and was constructed by sgpc solely on the pre-condition of ambedkar.

sign of not-so good intentions is when dr sahib started putting sharta "pre-conditions".

ur wrong bro, he did wana join, but the jatt leaders discouraged him coz he cud c that caste/tribal labels were creepin into sikhi.

I agree this is a dispicable comment if he actually knew the fact the religious leaders told Dr Ambedkar and his chureh-chamar clan to p155 off

Singher23 you got to read this guy's work, he really rips into the Brahmin. I watched a film on him and the <banned word filter activated> he put up with gives any man courage.

And for your info I DO KNOW the background of this, also u seem 2 b loving this mug ambedkar, but did u kno, that HE is the VERY PERSON who dismissed the anand karaj act! its coz of ur fave chacha ji here, that we have been fighting for 60+ yrs to get ourselves a sikh marriage act, coz according 2 him, sikhs and hindus r the same religion, how much u love him now my friend?

i already discussed this on another thread - http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/66441-who-did-the-most-damage-to-sikhism/

Who's dr ambedbar? I know who ambedkar Is

LOOL i spelt it wrong, but u have spelt it wrong too, and try 2 mock me for it, when u have done the same, well done bro

What a dispicible comment

y is it dispicable? i never noticed the stupidity in wat dr ambedKar did, until someone else pointed it out to me. if he wanted 2 become a sikh, WHY did he need 2 go 2 a council of sikhs and ask them if he could become a member of the khalsa? join if u wana join,do ur homework (which he apparntly did), then decide if sikhi is for u. unfortunatly the sikh leaders were of jatt tribe, and they feared they wud lose out on being the majority tribe in sikh population, as ambedkar wudda influenced his dalit ppl. u need 2 do ur homework, rather than judgin my comments

Chak deh India bruahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

http://www.bbc.co.uk...-india-17738633

wat a pasoo you r

No why should I be? I have family in India and its security is of interest.

This is a great quote 'We are Indians, firstly and lastly' Dr Ambedkar. This guy was ace! He stuck it to the Brahmins.

i dont kno y ur congratulatin dr.ambedar, this is the same fool, who asked permission to become a sikh! who ASKS someone else if they can convert? u do it, if u want to, nobody holds ur hand, pure pasoo.

I agree with WestLondonSingh, china man to man, would eat up americans n most nations, so wat makes india think they can even give china a dirty look and stand toe to toe? perhaps u shud read about the korean war, where chinese were all over the brits/americans/southkoreans like a rash. China, unlike india, is actually genuinely changin as a country, where 20 yrs ago the poor man would be eating rats, now he is eating comfortably, the comfortable eaters are now eating steak in restaurants, and the former steak eaters r now super duper rich. india on the other hand, well, the rich get richer, the poor get poorer, end of! out of an estimated 1bn poverty stricken ppl in the world, 400m are in india! Altho all is not bad for india tho, india does have a worse human rights record than china, so india is atleast better than china at one thing, killing ppl for no reason!

write positive pro-sikh articles for websites to counter such negative potrayal of sikhs in mainstream online media. Take step rather than complain.

u sayin that im jus complainin n not doin anything? im raisin awarness on here for starters, im active when i can, on youtube 2 counter anti-sikh comments, and report anti-sikh profiles/videos and i txt in 2 bbc asian network (in particular nihals show).

i already have opened a thread on this http://www.sikhsangat.com/Index.php?/topic/66485-english-media-vs-sikhi-its-blatant/

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hey guys check this article out, its concerning sikhs, alcohol and a stabbing etc, but look how the journo "suzannah hills" has specified that it was a "SIKH", y not say "ASIAN MAN/MEN", oh yea thats right coz it concerns someone with a singh in their name, had it had a "Ali/khan" in their name regarding their 12 yrd old white girlfriend, then it wudda sed "asian", im gettin sick n tired of sikhs being maligned like this! you wudda thort it was babbar khalsa who did the 7/7 bombings and shere panjab who were apparantly grooming kurriyan. pathetic journos, BBC are the worst at this i reckon. why arnt these journos writing headlines like christian girls have highest teenage pregnancy? etc (i think thats true).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2132190/Sikh-caught-drinking-alcohol-relatives-saw-cousin-s-party-Skype--killed-cousin-row-followed.html

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Hey guys, calling on all youtube users/readers, i request all of u guys 2 check out this video, showing all the hindus on the internet pretending 2 b muslims, and muslims pretending 2 b hindu or sikh, this is wat we r up against nowadays, sum ppl r sooo sad that they spend their ENTIRE day dedicated 2 mocking another relgion.

two accounta called "sickhman" & "rahim1khan" have already been reported by myself. all sikhsangat users, report these kameeneh who r spreading disgusting comments/videos of our gurus and religion.

thank you for your time

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