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protesting a valid point...

hmmm india...a lost cause.

So you would move to Pakistan for good next month if you had no other option to go to?

Thats what i said the first time round.

You are on the wrong side of history. Minorities want to leave Pakistan not live in it.

The constitution is only good if followed and enforced.

BTW, Jinnah admits on his death bed to Time Magazine that Pakistan was the biggest mistake of his life.

The choice was between india n pakistan.

W.T.Falafel is a banned word :o yet p*ki is not. Haha

<banned word filter activated>. Y would anyone even come out with a story like that

Asa Keeeee Vaar?

Search Navjot Singh Sidhu in google images u will find lot of color combination...

Below is few i like.

Master tara singh was also a founding member of the vishva hindu parishad. A nationalist hindu organisation based on the ideology of hindutva. Very closely associated to the bjp and rss.

Facts:

From day one to date, around 50,000- 75,000 Sikhs have died at the hands of muslims.

From 1947 to date, 100,000 PLUS have died at the hands of our hindu brothers whom we stand united with.

Although the best thing for Sikhs would have been their own state. However, some times I do think joining Pakistan would have been better for us. We knew from the beginning that Muslims are our enemy, so we would have never trusted them like Hindus. Chances of us getting massacred by them would have been less because we would have been more prepared. Moreover, we would have never joined Pakistan without getting concessions. Also, these concessions would have been in writing (read constitution ), not what we did with Nehru and Gandhi. And, our population compared to Muslims would have been better percent wise, unlike India where we are less than 2 percent. That is just a thought, still being with Muslims would have been an issue, but Sikhs are better at fighting the enemy they know and not good with the one who act like a friend.

Muslims are not our enemies. Never were.

Lets say you were given an option to go back and settle down in India or Pakistan. You had to go in a month, you know the present day scenario in both countries and there is no third country you can choose to live in. You have to choose one of these two. Which one would you choose? India or Pakistan? Respond to that question and you have your answer.

Considering what we've been put through the past 60odd years, my answer would be Pakistan.

If it wasn't for Mastar Tara Singh, today Punjab would have been part of Pakistan. And for that, most of his family was butchered during partition. Being born into another faith has nothing to do with one's loyalty. Baba Banda Singh Bahadur was born and raised as a Hindu before he converted to Sikhi and became the leader of the Sikh Qaum and established the first Sikh Raaj. Prof Sahib Singh Jee was born a Hindu before becoming a Sikh and becoming one of the greatest Sikh scholars. Besides former Hindus, you will even find many examples of Sikhs who were former Muslims, but lived and died as Sikhs.

On the other side of the spectrum, Badal, KPS Gill, Gen Brar, Dayal etc are born and raised as Sikhs, yet we know where their loyalties lie.

Maybe we would have been better off with Pakistan.

Was it not Jinnah who told the Sikh leaders to ask the british for a seperate Sikh homeland as the hindus could not be trusted?

Tara Singh sided with the hindus because he had an alligence with them. Im not saying he was wrong. Or write. What happened, happened. But its obvious he would have been inclined to side with the hindus as he came from that background.

Master tara was a hindu for the mojority of his life, had a hindu upbringing, converted to Sikhi much later in lafe, obviously he was going to side with the hindus.

Well at least they have a turbaned hero in Diljit. I know he's not the greatest role model but I was tired of seeing all the fathers and grandfathers as Singhs and all the heroes as moneh.

Confused....Diljit is still a moneh...

Yup :D

Manjit GKs father, Jathedar Santokh Singh, was a congressi slave of indira gandhi.

Sikhistan, hit the nail on the head. We have too many oversized buildings. We have massive gurdwaray, can just about pay the bills yet no one to use them. Utilise what we have instead of building more huge buildings. Its all about Parchaar.

And we as Sikhs really need to look into conservation and environmental issues.

I may be mistaken but it not Maharaja Bhupinder Singh who purchased the property for San Teja Singh to establish Shepherds Bush Gurdwara?

It was indeed. 1908 i think? The property was on sinclair road- i dont think it comes under shepherds bush...on the border maybe. It was then sold and the gurdwara moved to its current location due to larger sangat etc

It's not a fake account that indian muslim fool is giving the TRUE views of majority of indian muslims and the indian terrorist congress party (khangress party). Then the muslims wonder why they are universally hated by everyone when they agree with genocides and crimes against non-muslims showing their inhuman side.

When will Sikhs wake up and give a befitting reply?

Uff talk about tarring with the same brush! R u a redneck?!

If someone cant be loyal to his own faith, what loyality will he give another? Let him follow the path he has chosen. Obviously he has made his mind up if hes gone to the extent of submiting to namaz and bringing up his children in Islam.

He wonders from door to door searching for his beloved. Like a bee flying from one plant to another. How many partners can one individual have? Shes left her husband lord to be with another

What 'Sikh' grooms are you talking about?

The same ones who keep a little bit of beard/hair to go along with Pagri/Dastaar for Anand Kaaraj and then a few hours later shave it all off and also go to the barber for a haircut so that then they can go to the reception to drink and do drugs among other things?

Two wrongs don't make a right.

If we want, we can make up many excuses for this guy.

We can say that his face is just over an artist-impression type painting.

We can say that why blame this guy when artists are painting Guru Gobind Singh Jee in an inaccurate way.

We can say that Guru Sahib wanted Khalsa to look exactly like Him.

The list of excuses can go on and on.

But one point we must never forget.

Gurbani and Gurmat are very clear on this issue.

If you are going to dress like Guru Gobind Singh Jee.....fine...go ahead...be our guest.....but on one condition......you better have the lifestyle, thoughts, actions, virtues, merit, character, etc to back it up.......otherwise it's all just pakhand, karam kaand, fakeness, deception, misguiding, among many other things.

Paji, thats exactly my point. Im not looking for excuses for this nut case. I was pointing out that he isn't alone in what he has done. Countless weddings take place at our Gurdwara where so called 'sikhs' as you justly described, don a trimmed dhari, a red dastar and Sarbans Dani Pitas Kalgi. All this in Hazoors Hazuri.

Your 100% right! There is no excuse for this blasphemy. How is this bandar and all those grooms any different to the Chuta Sauda saad? And why should we treat them any differently? We let one of these idiots off and we'll get others thinking all this is just a stroll through the park. We have gidhar walking around with their chests beefed up thinking they own the place. Its about time they were reminded who the true kings of the land are.

Pul chuk muaf ji

I dont get it. His wearing a kalgi in his fb pic. Most sikh grooms wear a kalgi up until anand karaj. They sit in Guru Maharaajs hazoori wearing a kalgi. We say nothing to them then.

Wrap their dastar or their keski?

My friend told me a good technique to make a solid dastar without a boonga. Make a very very very loose joorda and then tie your dastar and bring the cloth over your joora at least twice to make the top round and tight. It usually becomes quite solid.

Couldn't you just lift that off? Wheras a bunga ties the dastar down to your head...?

VJKKVJKF,

Our new project is called "Sikhi Awareness For Everyone (SAFE)". Its talking to the average person on the street about Sikhi, without the intention to convert, but to raise awareness about Guruji's message. We've made this leaflet called, "3 Facts about Sikhi" and are talking people through them. There are other leaflets planned too.

Here are some videos ji, sangat who wish to support us by sponsoring printing material etc can do so at

British Couple Learn about Sikhi

My favourite one - British women praise Sikhi

HOW YOU CAN GET INVOLVED:

(1) Sponsor leaflets and Parchar desks: http://www.everythings13.org/donate

(2) Become a member of Street Team: Raise awareness at your local gurdwara and town. We'll be spreading this across the UK and other countries. info@everythings13.org

(3) Order some leaflets for your Gurdwara or youth organisation: Email as above.

Thanks ji

VJKK VJKF

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Paji you are LEGEND! What you continue to do, your seva, is plain amazing. I'm kicking myself for not attending the 'Why Sikhi Course' last summer. Thank you so much for taking up this seva.

PS, PLEASE come up north! Huddersfield needs you!!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh