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4th June 1984
Duggal's recollection are vivid, almost photographic. "At about 4 a.m. in the early hours of the morning of June 4, the regular Army attack on the temple started with a 25-pounder which fell in the ramparts of the Deori to the left o f Akal Takht Sahib with such a thunder that for a few moments I thought that the whole complex had collapsed. I along with my wife were then sitting in the verandah of my house adjacent to the Sikh Reference Library. Recovering from the initial shock, we moved into the room and took shelter in one of its corners. Thereafter, every second the ferocity of firing increased and it continued unabated till the evening of the 6th June.
As we were on the first floor, and our quarter was open on all sides our position was very vulnerable. The bullets hit our quarters on all sides and some of them pierced through the doors and landed inside the room. To add to our miseries the power and water supplies had been cut. Through a slit in the shutter of a window we saw a large number of dead bodies in the Parikrama of the Golden Temple. They included women and children. We could not leave our room. Coming out in the open would have exposed us to sure death."
Baldev Kaur's account of how the Army attack began is similar - "Very early on June 4, while it was dark, there was cannon fire from outside the Golden Temple without any warning. Shots were fired from all sides."
Bhan Singh is emphatic that no warning was given, no public announcement was made by the Army before the shelling of the Golden Temple started on June 4 - "had the army given a warning at least those pilgrims who had come for the Guru Parb could go out and then those person who were simply here to participate in the Dharam Yudh Morcha could go out. But no warning was given to the people. The firing was started from all around the complex with vengeance; as if they were attacking on alien enemy country."
According to the girl student, the shelling started at about 20 minutes past 4 o'clock on June 4 dawn and continued without interruption up to 2 o'clock in the afternoon of that day (June 4), and evening of June 5.
Her account is extremely graphic - On June 4 at about 3:30 a.m. we were inside the Harmandir Sahib reciting our prayers. Suddenly, there was a black-out in the whole of the Golden Temple complex. The devotees continued to be immersed in worship. At about 20 minutes past 4 o'clock there was a very loud explosion. We felt that the whole of the Golden Temple complex was shaking. I was alone on the balcony overlooking the lake or sarovar. Suddenly something roundish fell in front of me. I was curious. So I gently touched it and pushed it into the water. As it fell, there was a big noise and then the water rose and splashed into the Harmandir Sahib. I started reeling, once tilting on one side and again on the other. Someone pulled me inside. The explosions continued. We then realized that the Army's attack on the Golden Temple had begun." In a flash she described her companions - "Inside the Harmandir Sahib there were about 50 to 60 persons - some granthis (priests), ragis (singers), sevadars (employees), the rest of them yatris (pilgrims or visitors) like me and my family. I did not see any armed terrorist."
The Army fired from all sides and did not spare any target in the Temple complex which seemed to shelter people. According to Prithipal Singh, the Sevadar on duty at Akal Rest House, deep inside the Guru Ram Das Serai, the Akal Rest House was shelled from the side of Gali Bagh Wali (to the left of the main entrance from the side on chowk Ghanta Ghar) at 5 a.m. on June 4. The bullet marks on the walls, the doors, and windows of the side rooms of the Akal Rest House bore silent testimony to the Sevadars story, as we listened to him in May, 1985, almost one year after the shooting.
The Harmandir Sahib was not spared by the Army on June 4, just as it had not been by the C.R.P. on June 1. According to the girl student, bullets hissed past her and her grandmother and aunt when they crawled across the bridge on their stomachs in their bid to escape from Harmandir Sahib. She managed to pick up a portion of a shell which had exploded on the bridge near Harmandir Shaib - it was marked 84 mm., and it had two colours, yellow on the upper part and blue on the lower part.
Baldev Kaur's account suggests that there was no immediate counter-fire from inside the Golden Temple complex. The A.I.S.S.F. member said that "there was some stray firing from inside the Golden Temple before the Army's entry into the complex" ;. The girl student provides a comparative picture of the magnitude and intensity of firing from outside the Temple and from inside. "The firing that took place from inside the Golden Temple was negligible. On June 1, there was absolutely no firing from inside. Whereas on June 4, the ratio was something like this - if a thousand rounds were being fired by the Army from outside, then about one or one and a half rounds were fired in reply by the armed militants from inside the Temple complex."
Meanwhile, according to Duggal, "the helicopter hovered above and continued to fire from above. Some of these helicopters also guided the firing squads of the Army by making a circle of light around the targets. Immediately after these circles, the cannon bell would land on the target causing havoc. We saw a large number of boys blown to pieces."
According to Bhan Singh, "they (the Army) treated the inmates of the Complex as enemies and whenever there was any person wounded on account of the firing, no Red Cross people were allowed to enter, rather the Red Cross personnel had been detained beyond the Jallianwallah Bagh," - more that a kilometre away from the main entrance to the Golden Temple from the Chowk Ghanta Ghar side. In accordance with the U.N. Charter of Human Rights, the Red Cross is permitted to go in aid of the wounded right inside the enemy territory, but in Amritsar in June 1984 the Red Cross was not allowed to enter the Golden Temple - a respected and hallowed part of our country- in aid of Indians under attack from the Indian army. It only means that the attack was so brutal and the battle scene so grisly, that there was much to hide from the public scrutiny, even if it be that of a neutral agency called the Red Cross. This also explains perhaps why Press Censorship had already been imposed, the last of the journalists were hounded away and the Press was not allowed inside the Golden Temple up to June 10 when they were taken on a guided tour of the Complex for the first time since the Army Operations began almost a week before.
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3rd June 1984
According to the AISSF member, "Guru Parb was on June 3.
About 10,000 people had come from outside including many women and
4000 of them were young people. Those who were inside were not allowd to
go out after 10 p.m. on June 3. The Jathas which had come mainly from
Sangrur were not allowed to court arrest."
Bhan Singh confirms: "June 3 being Guru Parb, thousands of pilgrims had
come. But suddenly there was a curfew, so the pilgrims and the 1300 Akali
workers came to participate in the Dharam Yudh Morcha and to court arrest,
could not leave. The Akali Jathas consisted of about 200 ladies, 18 children
and about 1100 men and all of them along with the thousands of pilgrims
were forced to stay back inside the Temple complex. Most were living in
Guru Ram Das Serai, some at Teja Singh Samundri Hall."
The girl student remembers, "On June 3, at 6 o'clock in the evening we came
to know that Punjab had been sealed for 48 hours and that even cycles
would not be allowed on the streets."
Kanwaljit Singh sent a telegram home to Delhi at 8.05 p.m. on June 3 from
the Golden Temple Post Office "Coming after curfew". It means that the
curfew was 'reimposed' (Duggal's word) between 8.05 p.m. and 10 p.m.
No one inside the Golden Temple had yet realised the sinister plan of the
authoritites. Punjab had been sealed. Thousands of pilgrims and hundreds of
Akali workers had been allowed to collect inside the Temple complex. They
had been given no inkling or warning either of the sudden curfew or of the
imminent Army attack. It was to be a Black Hole-type of tragedy, not out of
forgetfulness but out of deliberate planning and design.
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2nd June 1984
Duggal was relieved when "fortunately, on 2nd June a team
of five reporters including Mark Tully of B.B.C. came there (Golden Temple)
and were told the truth . They were taken around the Golden Temple and
shown 34 big wounds caused by the bullets on all sides of the Harmandir
Sahib, some of them as big as almost 3" in diameter."
"The 2nd June passed off peacefully," according to Duggal, because there
was no firing and no curfew, while Baldev Kaur said it was 'quiet'. A large
number of Sikhs came to the Golden Temple from the surrounding areas
along with their familie s as the next day, June 3, was Guru Parb or the
martyrdom day of Shri Guru Arjan Dev, the fifth holy Guru of the Sikhs.
The peace and quiet was only on the surface, because active preparations
were afoot to break the peace. Kanwaljit Singh and his friend Manjit Singh
from Delhi visited Golden Temple on the morning of June 2 and found that
there there was no restriction for pilgrims to enter Amritsar or even the
Temple. But the exit doors out ot Amritsar were being closed. After visiting
the Temple, when Kanwaljit went at noon to the Amritsar Railway Station to
catch a train for Delhi, they were told that the last train had already left and
that the Flying Mail in the evening would not be leaving. In fact they were told
all outgoing trains had been cancelled. So Kanwaljit and Manjit were forced
to return to the Golden Temple and put up in the Guru Ram Das Serai for the
n ight. Thus was Kanwaljit to miss his interveiw at Delhi with the Institute of
Bank Management on June 3 morning and his examination with the State
Bank of India the same afternoon.
The AISSF young man said that the C.R.P., outside the Golden Temple was
replaced by Army on the night of June 2. Although there was no formal
curfew, and all visitors entering the Temple were allowed to come in without
any ado, all those who left the G olden Temple on the night of June 2 were
being taken into custody. "I did not therefore leave the Golden Temple
complex", said the A.I.S.S.F. member revealing his caution
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1st June 1984
Piecing together the evidence of various eye-witness and
also second-hand socurces, such as Kirpal Singh, President of the Khalsa
Dewan, Amritsar and S.S. Bhagowalia, advocate at Gurdaspur and Vicepresident
for the Association for Protection of Democratic Rights (Punjab),
the following picture emerges as to what happened at Golden Temple from
June 1, 1984. It is really amazing how, except for some minor details, the
accounts of different persons interviewed separately tally so closely with
regard to the date, the time and the description of incident June 1, 1984. The
AISSF Member, Duggal, the girl student, Sevadar Prithipal Singh and Baldev
Kaur all said the the Golden Temple was fired at by security forces from the
outside for the first time on June 1 itself, not June 5 as claimed by the White
Paper. According to the AISSF member, "At 14.40 in the afternoon of June 1,
suddenly the CRP without provocation started firing, aiming at the people
inside the Parikarmas. There was no firing, from inside the Golden Temple.
The firing by the C.R.P. was on the Harmandir Sahib and the Manjih Sahib.
The firing continued till about 8 p.m." Sevadar Prithipal Singh added that the
shooting which started from outside, was not preceded by any warning.
Devinder Singh Duggal's account is extremely detailed and lucid. "By the end
of May, it was widely known that the Army is going to attack the Golden
Temple, and on that account there was tremendous tension in the entire city
and its surrounding ar eas. The worst fears of the people came to the surface
when on 1st June, the security forces which had beseiged the Golden
Temple for months together and had made strong fortification on the multistorey
buildings all around it, suddenly started firing in side the Golden
Temple. The firing sarted at 12.30 p.m. and continued for a full 7 hours. What
was worse was that Harmandir Sahib was made the main target of this firing.
I took shelter along with my staff behind the steel almirahs of the Library, one
of the bullets pierced through three almirahs and landed on the fourth and we
had a narrow escape."
Duggal continues - "Not a single shot was fired from inside the complex.
When I asked some of the boys as to why they did not answere the firing,
they replied that they were under strict orders of the Sant not to fire a single
shot unless and unti ll the security forces or the Army entered the holy
Golden Temple. In the evening, when I heard in the news bulletin that there
was unprovoked firing from inside the Temple, but that the security forces
showed extreme restrain and did not fire a single sh ot, I was surprised at
this naked lie. The very fact that as many as eight persons, includeing a
woman and a child had been killed inside the Golden Temple complex and
there were as many as 34 big bullet wounds on all sides of the Harmandir
Sahib complete ly belied the Government's version. I asked Bhan Singh,
Secretary, S.G.P.C., to do something to refute this falsehood. He said that
nothing could be done because all links with the outside world had been
snapped."
According to the girl student, curfew was clamped soon after the firing
started. She confirmed the killings - "Authorities had said none had died, but I
dressed the wounds of 3 men who died later in front me in Guru Nanak
Nivas." That the cur few was lifted soon after the firing stopped is indicated
by the AISSF member, who said, "after the firing stopped, at about 8.30 p.m.,
a group of people (Jatha) courted arrest."
There is no doubt then that security forces (C.R.P.) fired on the Harmander
Sahib on June 1 itself and the news over the A.I.R. that there was
unprovoked firing from inside was a blatant lie. However, most official
versions maintain a meaningful silenc e about the happenings of June 1. For
them, as for example, with the Government's White Paper, the story begins
on June 2 with the Government of India deciding to call in the Army in aid of
civil authority in Punjab, with the object of "checking and controlling
extermist, terrorist and communal vioulence in Punjab, providing security to
the people and restore normalcy." How much security the Army succeeded in
providing to the people and how much normalcy, they were able to restore, is
however, another matter.
Taken from Operation Bluestar: Untold Story
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Why would BKI condemn an attack which KZF claim to have carried out? Was the statement even genuine?
Something doesnt add up here.
OH, 2 of the main sikhs who carried out the asssination of Paapi Rama Nand have been named as:
Bhai Tarsem Singh
Bhai Yadhvinder Singh
i agree, this doesn't sound right, why would neeta claim responsibility for the attack and condradict bki given the fact that neeta is apparently in lahore, where wadhawa singh also is - and all of them are networked with each other.
and how come of all a sudden kzf has come out of its dormant state and claimed an attack like this in far away vienna, something which doesn't fit in with their usual tactics of attacks in only punjab, jammu and delhi (during early 90s).
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Please complain to the BBC regarding the below article
http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/complaints_stage1.shtml
Here is what i sent to them,
'I would like to complain about the grossly inaccurate coverage of the incident in Vienna and subsequent riots in Punjab. Your article states that a 'Sikh Guru' was killed. However in Sikhism, the present Guru is our Holy scriptures, known as Guru Granth Sahib Jee. Secondly you have mentioned that the violence was between higher and lower caste Sikhs. But Sikhism does not advocate the caste system. The group concerned in the incident, belong to the Ravidassi sect who have split from mainstream Sikhism. The person killed was revered as a Saint by the Ravidassi sect. I hope that you will promptly research and amend the inaccuracies in your coverage of recent events, in order to avoid offending the sentiments of the global Sikh community.'
Riots have broken out in almost all towns and cities in the Indian state of Punjab after a Sikh guru was killed by a rival group in a temple in Austria.
Thousands of angry protesters have taken to streets, damaging public property and setting trains on fire.
At least four people were injured when police opened fire at protesters who attacked a police station in Jalandhar.
The army has marched through the streets of Jalandhar city and a curfew is in place in four major towns.
Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has appealed for calm.
Guru Sant Ramanand was attacked on Sunday in Vienna - during clashes at a religious ceremony - by six men armed with knives and a pistol.
Whatever the provocation, it is important to maintain peace and harmony among different sections of the people
He succumbed to his wounds in hospital early Monday.
Another preacher Sant Nirajnan Dass, who was among 15 other people injured, is said to be stable.
Both the preachers were from a low-caste Sikh sect which has a large following in parts of Punjab and had travelled to Vienna to conduct a special service.
The BBC's Sanjoy Majumder, in Delhi, says several high caste Sikh groups had apparently opposed his presence and threatened violence.
Bonfire
Thousands of protesters carrying swords, steel rods and sticks are out on the streets in almost all major towns and cities, reports the BBC's Asit Jolly in Chandigarh, capital of Punjab state.
At least four trains have been attacked
All major highways are blocked by bonfires of tyres and sticks, and all main railways stations in the state are deserted, our correspondent says.
Police say a large showroom of Hyundai motors has been completely destroyed and trains have been attacked in at least four places.
Police said they fired at rioting mobs in two places in Jalandhar after coming under attack.
At least four people were wounded, they said.
The army and police have marched through the streets of Jalandhar and police say they have arrested six people for arson.
A curfew has been imposed in the cities of Jalandhar, Phagwara, Hoshiarpur and Ludhiana.
The Delhi-Lahore bus has been stopped near the town of Ludhiana as a precautionary measure.
Violent demonstrations have also been reported in the towns of Amritsar, Patiala, Ferozepur, Bathinda and Nawanshahr.
'Distressed'
Chief Minister of Punjab Prakash Singh Badal has called an all-party meeting on Tuesday and PM Manmohan Singh has appealed for calm.
"I am deeply distressed by the outbreak of violence in Punjab following certain incidents in Vienna, Austria." Mr Singh said in a statement.
"Whatever the provocation, it is important to maintain peace and harmony among different sections of the people."
Mr Singh, a Sikh, said that Sikhism preached tolerance and harmony.
Guru Sant Ramanand and Sant Niranjan Dass were attacked on Sunday in Vienna.
Eyewitnesses said fundamentalist Sikhs from a higher caste attacked the preachers, who, they believed, were disrespectful of the Sikh holy book.
Police spokesman Michael Takacs said the scene was "like a battlefield". Six people have been detained, and more arrests were possible.
Several hundred worshippers were at the temple at the time of the attack.
The temple is situated in Vienna-Rudolfsheim, in the 15th district of the capital.
It is estimated that fewer than 3,000 Sikhs live in Austria.
The Rudolfsheim temple is run by devotees of Shri Guru Ravidas, who founded the Dera Sach Khand sect.
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The police investigate on an evidential basis and should be following all leads. While the protest may be a good idea for some, the only thing it might accomplish is for a politician to write a letter to the Chief Supt (who covers the area which Bow falls under) to put more pressure on the inquiry. But saying that, the DS in charge of the investigation issued a press release giving an update to the Sikh community on this investigation. This was posted by khalistan-zindabad on this forum not so long ago.
The supposed 'protest' on the 24th May 2009 which is apparently being organised by the dodgy committee will not get any numbers as the sangat will be attending the sanskaar of Maharaaj's ashes. So rather than organising protests, for the time being it might be better just to contact the police/politicians through emails, letters, phone calls.
Local area
http://cms.met.police.uk/met/boroughs/tower_hamlets/index
Local neighbourhood team
http://www.met.police.uk/teams/towerhamlets/bowwest/
Local MP
http://www.upmystreet.com/commons/constitu...arch/l/bow.html
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It would be good, if those attending or organising, can ensure that we have a coach from the Gurdwara to the 'rally' in London in June. In the past they have never had a coach.
the local naujawan are organising the jaap.
as for the rally, the main ppl in the committee are congressi and not pro- movement, so i hope that answers your question!
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The following Gurdwaras have confirmed their committment and transport to the rememberance march and rally on June 7th - Hyde Park London.
Please encourage the others to do the same.
Gurdwara Yaadgar Baba Deep Singh Ji Shaheed
4 Holyhead Road,
Handsworth,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B21 0LT
0121 554 803
Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara And Community Centre
21 Mary Street,
Balsall Heath,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B12 9RN
0121 440 2358
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
Stratford Road,
Sparkhill,
South Birmingham
B11
Guru Ram Dass Singh Sabha Gurdwara
95 Moseley Road,
Balsall Heath,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B12 9BX
Ramgharia Sikh Temple
6-9 Graham Street,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B1 3LA
0121 236 5435
Singh Sabha Akaal Darbar
21-527 & 535-537 Park Road,
Hockley,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B18 5TR
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
28-130 High Street,
Smethwick,
Warley,
West Midlands
B66 3AP
0121 558 2527
0121 555 5926
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
Well Lane,
Wednesfield,
Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV11 1XT
Guru Nanak Sikh Temple
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Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV2 3JA
01902 459413
01902 459933
Gurdwara Guru Nanak Parkash
65-67 Walsall Road,
Willenhall,
Walsall,
West Midlands
WV13 2RD
01902 605286
Gurdwara Guru Har Rai Sahib
126-128 High Street,
West Bromwich,
West Midlands
B70 6JW
0121 525 3275
Gurdwara Nanaksar
4 Wellington Street,
Pleck,
Walsall,
West Midlands
01922 641040
Guru Nanak Sikh Temple
8 Edward Street,
West Bromwich,
West Midlands
B70 8NP
0121 553 1242
Gurdwara Guru Hargobind Sahib Ji
Twydale Works Unit 1,
Dudley Road West,
Tividale,
Warley,
West Midlands
B69 3DU
0121 522 4828
Gurdwara Nanak Parkash This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
71/81 Harnall Lane West,
Foleshill,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV2 2GJ
Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha
47-49 Cross Road,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV6 5GR
Guru Nanak Sikh Temple
Prospect Hall,
Wakefield Road,
Bradford,
West Yorkshire
BD4 7DS
01274 723557
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
Prospect Street,
Huddersfield,
West Yorkshire
HD1 4HU
Gurdwara Kalgidhar Sahib Bhatra Sanghat
138 Chapeltown Road,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS7 4EE
The Sikh Temple
192 Chapeltown Road,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS7 3JT
0113 262 9073
Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara
2-8 Park Avenue,
Southall,
London
UB1 3AG
020 8574 8901
Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
Havelock Road,
Southall,
London
UB2 4NP
020 8574 890
Sikh Missionary Society U.K. This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
10 Featherstone Road,
Southall,
London
UB2 5AA
020 8574 1902
020 8574 1912
Gurdwara Singh Sabha - London East
100 North Street,
Barking,
London
IG11 8JD
020 8594 3940
Gurdwara Singh Sabha - London East
722/730 High Road,
Seven Kings,
Ilford,
London
IG3 8SX
Sri Guru Singh SabhaThis email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
Alice Way,
Hanworth Road,
Hounslow,
London
TW3 3UA
020 8577 2793
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
9 Holybones,
Leicester,
Leicestershire
LE1 4LJ
0116 251 7460
Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara
106 East Park Road,
Leicester,
Leicestershire
LE5 4QB
0116 276 0517
Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara - Sikh Temple
Clarence Place,
Gravesend,
Kent
DA12 1LD
01474 534121
Guru Nanak Istri Sabha
158 Peartree Street,
Derby,
Derbyshire
Guru Arjan Dev Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
Stanhope Street,
Derby,
Derbyshire
DE23 6QJ
01332 776872
Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara
Sheehy Way,
Waxham Court,
Slough,
Berkshire
SL2 5SS
01753 531826
Ramgharia Gurdwara
Woodland Avenue,
Slough,
Berkshire
SL1 3BU
01753 525458
Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha
48 Kings Close,
Watford,
Hertfordshire
WD1 8UB
01923 244058
01923 244650
Gurdwara Baba Zorawar Singh Ji Baba Fateh Singh Ji
Phoenix Drive, Off Grafton Street (V6),
Milton Keynes
Buckinghamshire
MK6 5LU
01908 231663
Updated poster..
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The following Gurdwaras are still to confirm transport and commitment to the remembrance march and rally. Please encourage them to take part.
Ramgarhia Sikh Temple
81-83 Chelsea Road,
Easton,
Bristol,
BS5 6AS
0117 955 4929
Sangat Singh Sabha Gurdwara
11 Summerhill Road,
St George,
Bristol,
BS5 8HG
0117 955 9333
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
301-303 Church Road,
St George,
Bristol,
BS5 8AH
0117 954 0507
Shri Guru Nanak Prakash Singh Sabha
(Bristol Sikh Temple)
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71-75 Fishponds Road,
Eastville,
Bristol,
BS5 6SF
+44 (0) 117 902 0104
Bedfordshire
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
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2A Dallow Road,
Luton,
Bedfordshire
LU1 1LY
01582 721072
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
84 Ford End Road,
Bedford,
Bedfordshire
MK40 4JX
01234 266531
Ramgharia Sikh Society Gurdwara
33-39 Ampthill Street,
Bedford,
Bedfordshire
MK42 9BT
01234 304455
Ramgharia Sikh Temple
69 Victoria Road,
Bedford,
Bedfordshire
MK42 9JR
Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara
152-156 Bedford Road,
Kempston,
Bedford,
Bedfordshire
MK42 8EL
Belfast
Gurdwara Guru Nanak
Sikh Community Association Belfast
162 Duncairn Gardens,
Belfast,
Northern Ireland
BT15 2GN
028 9075 2353
Berkshire
Guru Nanak Satsang Sabha
31 Rutland Road,
Maidenhead,
Berkshire
SL6 4HZ
01628 780330
Ramgharia Sabha Reading
234 London Road,
Earley,
Reading,
Berkshire
RG6 1AH
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
30a Cumberland Road,
Reading,
Berkshire
RG1 3LB
Sri Guru Gobind Singh Marg Gurdwara
76 Montague Road,
Slough,
Berkshire
SL2
Buckinghamshire
Gurdwara Amrit Parchar Dharmik Diwan (Sikh Temple)
Brook Street,
High Wycombe,
Buckinghamshire
HP11 2EQ
Ramgharia Sabha
10 Hadrians Drive,
Bancroft,
Milton Keynes
Buckinghamshire
MK13 0PP
Cambridgeshire
Gurudwara Baba Budha Sahib Ji
Royce Road,
Peterborough,
Cambridgeshire
PE1
Cambridge Sikh Society
17 Woodcock Close,
Impington,
Cambridge,
Cambridgeshire
CB4 9LD
Cheshire
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
Dover Road,
Latchford,
Warrington,
Cheshire
WA4 1NB
Cleveland
Guru Nanak Gurdwara And Sikh Community Centre
31a Allensway,
Thornaby,
Stockton-On-Tees,
Cleveland
TS17 9HA
01642 760634
Sikh Temple
23 Lorne Street,
Middlesbrough,
Cleveland,
TS1 5QY
01642 250125
Bhatra Sikh Temple
151 Southfield Road,
Middlesbrough,
Cleveland
Derbyshire
Ramgarhia Sabha Sikh Temple
14-16 St. James Road,
Derby,
Derbyshire
DE23 8QX
01332 371811
Devon
Guru Arjan Niwas Sikh Temple
46 Clifton Street,
Exeter,
Devon
Durham
Darlington Sikh Temple
Louisa Street,
Darlington,
County Durham
DL1 4ED
01325 250050
Guru Gobind Sikh Temple - Sunderland Sikh Association
Ashbrooke Hall,
The Cloisters,
Sunderland,
County Durham
SR2 7ED
0191 5672939
Essex
Sikh Temple
6 Maidstone Road,
Grays Thurrock,
Essex
01375 376086
Greater Manchester
Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Gurdwara
15 Monton Street,
Moss Side,
Manchester
M14 4GP
0161 226 1131
Sikh Temple
107 Halliwell Lane,
Cheetham Hill Road,
Manchester,
M8
Gurdwara Dashmesh Darbar Sikh Temple
98 Heywood Street,
Cheetham,
Manchester,
M8 0PS
Shri Guru Singh Sabha Gurudwara
32 Derby Street,
Manchester,
M8 8RY
0161 832 2241
The Sikh Temple
61 Upper Chorlton,
Whalley Range,
Manchester,
M16 7RQ
0161 226 7233
Dashmesh Sikh Temple
29 Esmond Road,
Cheetham,
Manchester
Gurdwara Sri Guru HarKrishan Sahib Ji
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12 Sherborne Street,
Strangeways,
Manchester
M3 1FE
0161 832 6577
0161 835 2125
Hampshire
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
207 Lower Brook Street,
Basingstoke,
Hampshire
RG21 7RR
Sikh Temple
4 King's Mill Road,
Basingstoke,
Hampshire
RG21 3JE
Singh Sabha Gurdwara
Onslow Road,
Cranberry Avenue,
Southampton,
Hampshire
SO14 0LR
Gurdwara Tegh Bahadur Sahib
7 St. Mark’s Road,
Newtown,
Southampton,
Hampshire
SO14 0FB
Gurdwara Singh Sabha
128-130 Northumberland Road,
Cranberry,
Southampton,
Hampshire
SO14 0ER
Gurdwara Nanaksar
3 Peterborough Road,
Bevois Valley,
Southampton,
Hampshire
SO14 6HY
Guru Nanak Sar Gurdwara
5 Margate Road,
Southsea,
Portsmouth,
Hampshire
PO5 1EY
Hertfordshire
Nanaksar Thath Ishar Darbar
7 Gernon Walk,
Letchworth,
Hertfordshire
SG6 3HW
01462 684153
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
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37 Wilbury Way,
Hitchin,
Hertfordshire
SG4 0TW
01462 431973
Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara
50 Wilbury Way,
Hitchin,
Hertfordshire
SG4 0TP
01462 432993
Kent
The Medway Towns Gurudwara Sabha
Cossack Street,
Rochester,
Kent
ME1 2EF
01634 849782
Sikh Temple
4 Milton Avenue,
Gravesend,
Kent
DA12 1QL
Sikh Sangat Gurdwara
Sydney Road,
Chatham,
Kent
ME4 5BR
01634 815934
Gurdwara Guru Hargobind Sahib
8-10 Highfield Road,
Dartford,
Kent
DA1 2JJ
Kent Ramgarhia Darbar Sikh Temple
63 Franklin Road,
Gillingham,
Kent
ME7 4DG
01634 576618
Sri Guru Nanak Gurdwara - Sikh Temple
Byron Road,
Gillingham,
Kent
ME7 5QH
01634 333111
Lancashire
Guru Nanak Cultural Recreation Centre And Sikh Gurdwara
2 - 10 Tunbridge Street,
Preston,
Lancashire
PR1 5YP
01772 798395
Guru Nanak Gurdwara Bhatra Singh Sabha
2 Clarendon Street,
Preston,
Lancashire
PR1 3YN
01772 251008
Sikh Temple
8 Culshaw Street,
Blackburn,
Lancashire
BB1 1JF
01254 581965
Leicestershire
Guru Amardas Gurdwara - Leicester Sikh Centre
219-227 Claredon Park Road,
Leicester,
Leicestershire
LE2 3AN
0116 270 1705
Ramgarhia Board Gurdwara
51 Meynell Road,
Leicester,
Leicestershire
LE5 3NE
0116 276 0765
Gurdwara Sahib - Sikh Temple
33-34 Clarence Street,
Loughborough,
Leicestershire
LE11 1DY
01509 558027
Guru Nanak Khalsa
45 Lanesborough Road,
Leicester,
Leicestershire
LE4
Lincolnshire
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
41 Normandy Road,
Scunthorpe,
Lincolnshire
DN15 6AS
01724 841361
Guru Nanak Sikh Temple
207/209 Frodingham Road,
Crosby,
Scunthorpe,
Lincolnshire
DN15 6AS
01724 861880
Lothian Region
Sikh Temple
1 Mill Lane,
Leith,
Edinburgh
Lothian
EH6 6ZZ
0131 553 7202
London
Edgware Gurdwara
Waltham Drive,
28 Highlands,
Edgware
London
HA8
Gurdwara Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha [uk]
134-142 Martindale Road,
Hounslow,
London
TW4 7HQ
020 8570 4774
Sikh Art & Culture Centre
21 Montague Road,
Hounslow,
London
TW3 1LG
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
93 Waye Avenue,
Cranford,
London
TW3 3UA
Dashmesh Sat Sang Sabha
6 Evelyn Grove,
Southall,
London
Guru Nanak Darbar
67 - 73 King Street,
Southall,
London
UB2 4DQ
Ramgharia Sabha Southall
53-57 Oswald Road,
Southall,
London
UB1 1HN
020 8574 5635
020 8843 1167
Guru Amardas Gurmat Society & Education Centre
1a Clifton Road,
Southall,
London
UB2 5QP
020 8571 1335
Guru Granth Gurdwara
45 Villiers Road,
Southall,
London
UB1 3BS
020 8574 2898
Sikh Temple Nanak Darbar - North London
136 High Road,
New Southgate,
London
N11 1PJ
020 8368 7104
Singh Sabha Gurdwara
68 Gloucester Drive,
London
N4 2LN
020 8800 9923
Gurdwara Sikh Sanghat
71 Francis Road,
Leyton,
London
E10 6PL
020 8556 4732
Gurdwara Sikh Sanghat
1a Campbell Road,
Bow,
London
E3 4DS
020 8980 2281
Brent Sikh Centre
241 Stag Lane,
Kingsbury,
P.O. Box 7657
London
NW9 0EF
020 8206 1231
020 8991 2690
Central Gurdwara (Khalsa Jatha) London
62 Queensdale Road,
Shepherd's Bush,
London
W11 4SG
020 7603 2789
Southfield Sikh Association
1 South Brook Road,
Streatham,
London
SW16
Ramgarhia Sikh Association
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Masons Hill,
Woolwich
London
SE18 6EJ
020 8854 1786
Guru Nanak Darbar Gurdwara
Old Mill Road,
Plumstead,
London
SE18
Siri Guru Singh Sabha
74 Avarn Road,
London
SW17
Ramgharia Sikh Gurdwara
10-14 Neville Road,
Forest Gate,
London
E7 9SQ
020 8471 0335
Gurdwara Baba Bhudha Sahib Ji
2 Shawbury Road,
East Dulwich,
London
SE22 9DH
020 8693 1162
ashmesh Darbar Gurdwara
97-101 Rosebery Avenue,
Manor Park,
London
E12 6PT
020 8471 2204
Guru Nanak Satsang Sabha Karamsar UK
400 High Road,
Seven Kings,
Ilford,
London
IG1 1TW
020 8478 8090
Greenwich Sikh Association - Woolwich Sikh Temple
1 Calderwood Street,
Woolwich,
London
SE18 6QW
020 8854 4233
South London Sikh Gurdwara
142 Merton Road,
Wandsworth,
London
SW18 5SP
020 8874 3518
Khalsa Centre
95 Upper Tooting Road,
Upper Tooting,
London
SW17 7TW
020 8767 3196
Londonderry
Sikh Gurdwara
Hinton House,
1 Clooney Park West,
Leith,
Londonderry,
County Londonderry
BT47 7TB
Merseyside
Gurdwara & Sikh Community Centre
Wellington Avenue,
Liverpool,
Merseyside
L15 0EJ
Northamptonshire
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
23 - 25 King Street,
Kettering,
Northamptonshire,
NN16 8QP
01536 511447
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
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17 - 19 St. Georges Street,
Northampton,
Northamptonshire,
NN1 2TN
01604 634641
Ramgarhia Board Sikh Gurdwara Community Centre
2 Craven Street,
Northampton,
Northamptonshire,
NN1 3EZ
Nottinghamshire
Sikh Temple - Gurdwara Singh Sabha
26 Nottingham Road,
Basford,
Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire
NG7 7AE
0115 962 2132
Guru Nanak Sat Sang Gurdwara
60-62 Forest Road West,
Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire
NG7 4EP
0115 978 1394
Ramgharia Sabha Nottingham
29-31 Percy Street,
Basford,
Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire
NG6 0GF
0115 979 1595
0115 854 3871
Sikh Temple
36 Church Street,
Lenton,
Nottingham,
Nottinghamshire
NG7 2FF
Oxfordshire
Banbury Gurdwara Sahib
43 West Street,
Banbury,
Oxfordshire
01295 265400
01295 266025
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
69 Cherwell drive ,
Marston,
Oxford,
Oxfordshire
OX3 0ND
Shropshire
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
1 Hadley Park Road,
Hadley,
Telford,
Shropshire
TF1 6PW
01952 411730
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
19a Church Parade,
Oakengates,
Telford,
Shropshire
TF2 6EX
01952 616442
South Glamorgan
Sikh Gurdwara
16 Wentloog Road,
Rumney,
Cardiff,
South Glamorgan
CF3 3LP
Sikh Gurdwara
212a Pearl Street,
Roath,
Cardiff,
South Glamorgan
CF24 1RD
Sri Dasmesh Singh Sabha Gurdwara Bhatra Sikh Centre
97-103 Tudor Street,
Cardiff,
South Glamorgan
CF11 6AE
029 2022 4806
South Yorkshire
Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara
98 Balby Road,
Doncaster,
South Yorkshire
DN4 0JL
01302 363816
Guru Kalgidar Gurdwara
73 St James Street,
Waterdale,
Doncaster,
South Yorkshire
DN1 3A?
Sri Guru Arjan Dev Gurdwara
Cherry Tree Road,
Hexthorpe,
Doncaster,
South Yorkshire
DN4 0BJ
01302 369460
Gurdwara Sri Guru Teg Bhadar Sahib Ji
163 Bentley Road,
Bentley,
Doncaster,
South Yorkshire
DN5 9TB
01302 390056
Sikh Temple
125b Carr House Road,
Hyde Park,
Doncaster,
South Yorkshire
DN1 2BD
Sikh Temple
Ellesmere Road North,
Sheffield,
South Yorkshire
S4 7DN
0114 242 0108
Sikh Temple
120 Bushey Wood Road,
Dore,
Sheffield,
South Yorkshire
S17
Staffordshire
Nanaksar Gurdwara
90 Tithe Barn Road,
Stafford,
Staffordshire
ST16 3PQ
01785 58590
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
61 Liverpool Road,
Stoke-On-Trent,
Staffordshire
ST4 1AQ
01782 415670
Ramgarhia Sikh Temple
141 Wheldon Road,
Fenton,
Stoke On Trent,
Staffordshire
ST4 4JG
01782 844940
Strathclyde
Guru Granth Sahib Gurdwara
163 Nithsdale Road,
Pollockshields,
Glasgow,
Strathclyde
G41 2AL
0141 423 8288
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Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Gurdwara Bhatra Sangat
32 St Andrews Drive,
Glasgow,
Strathclyde
G41 5SG
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Guru Nanak Gurdwara
27 Otago Street,
Kelvinbridge,
Glasgow,
Strathclyde
G12 8JJ
Sikh Temple
128 McCulloch Street,
Glasgow,
Strathclyde
G41
Central Gurdwara Singh Sabha
134-138 Berkeley Street,
Pollockshields,
Glasgow,
Strathclyde
G3 7HY
0141 221 6698
Suffolk
Sikh Temple
719 Bramford Road,
Ipswich,
Suffolk
IP1 5BD
01473 216241
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Sanghat Sikh Bhatra Temple
Great Yarmouth Road,
Ipswich,
Suffolk
IP1 2EN
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Surrey
Nanak Community Centre
St. James Road,
Croydon,
Surrey
CR0 2BU
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Tayside
Sri Guru Nanak Gurdwara
1-3 Nelson Street,
Dundee,
Tayside
DD1 2PN
01382 222 3383
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Guru Nanak Gurdwara Sikh Temple
Victoria Road,
Dundee,
Angus
Tyne And Wear
Gurdwara Sri Guru Singh Sabha
Tindale Close,
Newcastle Upon Tyne,
Tyne And Wear
NE4 5SA
0191 2738011
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Khalsa Mero Roop Hai Khas Gurdwara
2 Dean Terrace,
South Shields,
Tyne And Wear
NE33 5JY
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Sri Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara
The Cloisters (off Ryhope Road),
Sunderland,
Tyne And Wear
SR2 7ED
0191 567 2939
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West Midlands
Gurdwara Bebe Nanaki
189 Rookery Road,
Handsworth,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B21 9PX
0121 551 3489
Gurdwara Guru Nanak Bhatra Singh Sabha & Community Centre
248-250 Moseley Road,
High Gate,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B13 0DG
0121 440 2387
Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha
18-20 Soho Road,
Handsworth,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B21 9BH
0121 551 1125
Ramgharia Sikh Temple
25-29 Waverley Road,
Small Heath,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B10 0EG
0121 773 0389
Singh Sabha Gurdwara
80 Somerset Road,
Handsworth Wood,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B20 2JB
0121 551 1248
Shri Dasmesh Sikh Temple
305 Wheeler Street,
Lozells,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B19 2EU
0121 523 6059
Shri Guru Ravidass Bhawan
Union Row,
Handsworth,
Birmingham,
West Midlands
B21 9EN
Gurdwara Nanaksar
Waterloo Road,
Smethwick,
Warley,
West Midlands
B66 4JS
0121 558 9048
Sri Guru Nanak Singh Sabha Gurdwara
118 Wellington Road,
Dudley,
West Midlands
DY1
01384 253 054
Guru Teg Bahadur Gurdwara
7 Vicar Street,
Dudley,
West Midlands
DY3 3SD
01384 238936
Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara
202-204 Cannock Road,
Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV10 0AL
Guru Nanak Sikh Gurdwara
Arthur Street,
Bilston,
Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV14 0DG
Gurdwara Amrit Parchar Dharmik Diwan
65 Birmingham Road,
Oldbury,
Warley,
West Midlands
B69 4EH
0121 552 3778
Nanaksar Thath Isher Darbar
1 Mander Street,
Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV3 0JZ
01902 429379
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
205-206 Lea Road,
Pennfields,
West Midlands
WV3 0LG
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
West Bromwich Street,
Walsall,
West Midlands
WS1 4DE
01922 622199
Gurdwara Baba Sang
Saint Pauls Road,
High Street,
Smethwick,
Sandwell,
West Midlands
B66 1EE
0121 558 2681
Ramgarhia Board and Temple
Westbury Street,
Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV1 1JD
01902 426885
Ramgarhia Sabha
334 Newthampton Road East,
Wolverhampton,
West Midlands
WV1 4AD
01902 425156
Ramgarhia Gurdwara
1103 Foleshill Road,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV6 6EP
024 7666 3048
024 7668 8208
Nanaksar Gurdwara
224-226 Foleshill Road,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV1 4HW
024 7622 0434
Gurdwara Guru Hargobind
47 Coventry Street,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV2 4ND
Gurdwara Ajit Darbar Coventry UK
Lockhurst Lane,
Foleshill,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV6 5NQ
024 7666 2448
Guru Nanak Sewak Jatha
128 De Montfort Way,
Cannon Park,
Coventry,
West Midlands
CV4 7DT
West Sussex
Sri Guru Singh Sabha
27-29 Spencer Road,
West Green,
Crawley,
West Sussex
RH11 7DE
West Yorkshire
Guru Gobind Singh Gurdwara This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
Malvern/Vetnor Street Off Leeds Road,
Bradford,
West Yorkshire
BD3 9JN
01274 727928
Gurdwara Singh Sabha
10 Grant Street Off Garnet Street,
Bradford,
West Yorkshire
BD3 9HD
01274 738834
Gurdwara Amrit Parchar Dharmik Diwan This email address is being protected from spam bots, you need Javascript enabled to view it
Peckover Street,
Little Germany,
Bradford,
West Yorkshire
BD2 1ER
01274 724853
Guru Nanak United Sikh Temple
64 Avenue Road,
West Bailing,
Bradford,
West Yorkshire
BD5
Ramgarhia Sikh Temple
Victoria Hall,
720 Bolton Road,
Bradford,
West Yorkshire
BD3 OND
01274 632761
Shri Guru Singh Sabha Sikh Temple
34 Hillhouse Lane,
Fartown,
Huddersfield,
West Yorkshire
HD1 6JT
01484 542982
Guru Nanak Sikh Sangat Sikh Temple
219 Keldergate,
Deighton,
Huddersfield,
West Yorkshire
HD2 1LF
Ramgarhia Sabha
8-10 Chapeltown Road,
Sheepscar,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS7 3AL
0113 262 5657
Sikh Temple
93 Carr Manor Road,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS17
Sikh Temple
16 Sholebroke Place,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS7
Sri Guru Nanak Sikh Temple
165 Town Street,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS12 3JF
Guru Nanak Temple
62b Tong Road,
Armley,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS12 1LZ
0113 263 6525
Guru Nanak Nishkam Sewak Jatha [uk - Leeds]
78 Ladypit Lane,
Leeds,
West Yorkshire
LS11 6DP
0113 276 0270
Wiltshire
Shri Guru Nanak Gurdwara
Kembry St,
Swindon,
Wiltshire
SN2 8AZ
01793 538238
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With Guru Jees grace there will be a 8 hour Chaupai Sahib Jaap at Caldmore Gurdwara in support of Chaupai One Million.
Please attend and show your suppport.
Monday (bh) 25th May 2009
9am-5pm followed by evening diwan
Guru Nanak Gurdwara
West Bromwich Street,
Caldmore,
Walsall
West Midlands,WSI 4DE
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But the goal is not to get reincarnated. We want to merge with God. So our soul becomes at 1 with God.
I understand thats the goal. But it might not have happened to this particular soul as she didn't nam jap. I reminded her few weeks ago to do some nam jap. But typical excuses like we humans have. So I actually held her hand and read Japuji sahib to her (about 1.5hrs before her death, she was dying with cancer and pretty much determined that she was not going to survive that day), hoping that by doing that, God gives her one more chance as human to do nam jap and have her born back in some SIKHI oriented family.
I hope it happens to my soul as you suggested the goal to merge with GOD.
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thank you k$$%%^ i mean azaad :rolleyes:
any more links??
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Can anyone post any links of where i can download keertan from this amazing keertani :D
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The Sikh Channel has a valid point as the presenters will be impartial and are not preaching about sikhi. If non-amritdhari's were not allowed to participate in any way, shape or form on the channel then how can you expect viewers from the wider punjabi community to be inspired into sikhi - they'll just watch the punjjabi channel instead.
And to give them credit, the sikh channel have posted on here asking specifically for amritdharis to take part in presenting etc because of low participation.
Regardless of the politics of who is doing what, having a sikh channel is a major leap forward for the sikh community. singhs back in 70s and 80s used to campaign so hard just to have a radio transmitter airing gurbani from darbar sahib, but now we have that and also a sikh channel!
We should all be positive about this and offer our collective support.
But on a side note, the Sikh channel have a responsibility to ensure that their parchaaraks represent the sikh way of life and are not from any group which seeks to undermine the authority of Guru Granth Sahib Jee.
Also there needs be coverage on 1984 in the coming weeks, especially given the fact that it has been 25 years since op bluestar.
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A very popular nineteenth century British newspaper, <banned word filter activated>-Bits, made a comparative analysis of great generals of the world and arrived at the following conclusion:
"Some people might think that Napoleon was a great General. Some might name Marshall Hendenburgh, Lord Kitchener, General Karobzey or Duke of Wellington etc. And some going further might say Halaku Khan, Genghis Khan, Changez Khan, Richard or Allaudin etc. But let me tell you that in the North of India a General of the name of Hari Singh Nalwa of the Sikhs prevailed. Had he lived longer and had the sources and artillery of the British, he would have conquered most of Asia and Europe…."[15]
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does anyone know what happened to the guy, did they catch him????
yep
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got text aswell, can anyone in india confirm this?
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The above poster summed it up nicely :rolleyes:
plz keep bumping!
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26 days left
Just over 250 000 left
We won't get another shot at this, so wherever we are in the world, for the next few weeks lets ALL do as many as possible and give it a final push.
Benti to keep bumping this thread!
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http://sgpc.net/hukamname_Aadesh_Sandesh.pdf
Hukamnaama number 58 at bottom of page 126.
Any thoughts Sangat Jee? Can anyone shed some more light on this? Who was given Seva as JAthedaar of all the Takhats at this time? Why hasn't this been implemented?
Shaheed Jathedar Gurdev Singh Jee Kaunke
'in January 1986, Bhai Sahib was chosen to the highest Seva in the Khalsa Panth, the Seva of Jathedar of Sri Akal Takhat Sahib.'
http://www.neverforget84.com/shaheed/Jathe...ngh-Kaunke.html
as k-z has said, we are gulaam
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If you wanna learn martial arts, come to eagle claw kung fu classes
Wednesdays 6-8
Sundays 5-7
Guru Nanak Community Centre
Edward St
West Brom
All warriors are welcome :D
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........on This Day.........
in WHAT'S HAPPENING?
Posted
5th June 1984
The firing and counter-firing continued. Harcharan Singh Ragi saw his guardian and mentor - the old completely blind Head Ragi of the Golden Temple, Amrik Singh being shot by a bullet and dying inside the Harmandir Sahib at about 6.30 a.m . on June 5.
This was the respect shown by the Indian Army to the Harmandir Sahib! The White Paper issued on July 10, 1984 adopts a holier-than-thou attitude - "Specific Orders were given to troops to use minimum force, to show the utmost reverence to all holy places and to ensure that no desecration or damage was done to the Harmandir Sahib..." (Para 10) and once more "In spite of this (machine-gun fire from Harmandir Sahib on the night of June 5) the troops exercised great restrain and refrained from directing any fire at Harmandir Sahib." All this is propaganda. We have recorded the truth - the Harmandir Sahib was fired at by the C.R.P. on June 1 and there were 34 bullet marks on it which were shown to Mark Tully of the B.B.C. the next day. When the Army attacked the Golden Temple at dawn on June 4, the Harmandir Sahib was the target of destructive shelling and on June 5 two Ragis - one Amrik Singh, blind, 65-year-old - a singer of devotional songs and another Avtar Singh were killed by bullets right inside the Harmandir Sahib. Perhaps the White Paper was doing an exercise in sarcasm and irony when it stated: "the troops exercised great restraint and refrained from directing any fire at Harmandir Sahib."
Meanwhile, the girl student and her companions had managed to come away from the Harmandir Sahib, crawling on their stomachs across the small bridge. They were bundled into a room on the ground floor of the Akal Takht. They kept sitting there, having nothing to eat and no water to drink. To continue, in her own words, "Helicopters were encircling the Temple from above. After the helicopters completed their circle, at about 11:30 a.m. on June 5, the huge water tank inside the Temple complex was fired at. The tank could not be broken even after the initial 10 shells hit the tank. Then one bomb hit the tank after which it burst and all the water gushed out. The fighters who had taken their positions beneath the tank were killed.
"They continued the firing till the evening of June 5 and then it was about 8.30 p.m. It was completely dark when they entered accompanied by very heavy firing. The blasting was so severe that I thought that I had reached some other world.
"We were 40-50 persons huddled together in the room, including women and children, even a child of six months. In the next room were the pilgrims who had come on June 3 to celebrate Guru Parb but they had been trapped."
"The upper portion of the Akal Takht had been fired at by the Army and completely destroyed. Pieces of the Guru Granth Sahib were flying in the air and littering the ground. The place seemed to have been transformed into a haunted house.
"Then the tank entered. It had powerful searchlights. I thought the ambulance had come to attend to the dead and injured. But it had turned out the opposite. The tanks went riding past us. From the tanks the announcement came, loud and clear: "Please come out, God's blessings are with you. We will reach you home absolutely safe and sound," There were some among us who were frantic for some water, they came out in the open. In the morning I saw the dead bodies lying on the Parikrama. This was the worst kind of treachery."
The A.I.S.S.F. Members narration of the events of June 5 has a somewhat different emphasis - less personal reflection and more of detached observation. On June 5th at about 8 p.m. the Army entered the Complex through the Ghanta Ghar side under heavy cover fire. The road was blocked. Nobody was allowed to come out of the Complex. The Army entry was not preceded by any warning of announcement asking the people to surrender. "There was some stray firing from inside the Golden Temple before the Army entry into the Complex. But the real resistance began only after the Army entered the Temple. The order from Bhindranwale was to use limited firearms with discretion. There were only about 100 people to fight and there were less that 100 arms consisting mostly of .303 rifles used in the World War II, 315 guns and a few stenguns. When the army entered, the ammunition was nearly exhausted. "After mid-night, at about 1 a.m. one armoured carrier and 8 tanks came inside the complex. The tanks had powerful searchlights and they came down the stair-case, and the Army surrounded the langar building." Even 11 months afterwards, we could still see the marks of the tanks on the Parikrama.
Duggal's account is also informative. By the evening of June 5, he and his family had managed to move to the house of the Giani Sahib Singh, the head priest of Golden Temple, which is about 25 yards away from the house he had earlier taken shelter in. In Duggal's words, "The night between the 5th and 6th was terrible. The tanks and armoured carriers had entered the Golden Temple Complex. The firing was such, that its ferocity cannot be described. In the early hours of June 6th, we learnt that the holy Akal Takht had been completely demolished in the firing. As devoted Sikhs, we were extremely shocked. Tears flowed through the eyes of everybody there. All through the night we heard the heart rending cries of the dying persons."
Giani Puran Singh, a priest at the Harmandir Sahib also an eye-witness remembers - "At 7.30 p.m. on 5th I went to Sri Akal Takht where I met Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale with who I had a long satisfying talk while shots were ringing outside. Gyani Mohan Singh, whose duty was to conduct REHRAS (Evening Prayer) had not been able to reach Harmandir Sahib, due to the shooting. I then came down from the Akal Takht and joined some "Singhs" in a morcha and enquired of them whether Gyani Mohan Singh had passed that way. As per the tradition the 'Rehras' at Akal Takht starts 5 minutes later than at the Harmandir Sahib, but that day Path at the Akali Takht had already started. Upon this I rushed towards Harmandir Sahib amidst gunfire, stopping for a breather at the Darshani Deori. On reaching I started the recitation. Meanwhile, Gyani Mohan Singh also reached the place. We were about 22 people in the Harmandir Sahib, some devotees and others the employees of the Gurudwara. By the time the path was over the firing outside became more intense. 'Sukhasan' of Guru Granth Sahib was done and then taken upstairs. At 10.00 p.m. the tanks started entering the complex and a barrage of shooting from without became more intense as heavy armour began to be used. At this stage an armoured carrier entered and stood beside the Sarovar. The lights on the carrier, when switched on, bathed the whole complex in bright light. We were viewing all this perched in the main dome of Harmandir Sahib and thought that probably the fire brigade had come to get water for extinguishing fires raging throughout the city. But we were proved wrong when this vehicle came down to the Parikrama and stared firing. From both sides the tanks started closing in, from clock tower to the Brahm Buta the tanks set fire to all rooms while desperate people collected water from the Sarovar to extinguish the fires. Loud cries and wails of both women and children filled the air. A vigorous battle ensued and the Darshani Deoris of Clock Tower and Atta Mandi along with the Serais (rest houses) was in Army control by 10 o'clock, the next day (June 6). The 40-50 youth who had been holding the forces fought bravely till either they were killed or the ammuniton was exhausted. From about 10 in the night till 4.30 the next morning we were on the roof of Darbar Sahib."
2. OFFICIAL VERSION - FACT OR FICTION?
These accounts of what happened at the Golden Temple on June 5 are in marked contrast to the white paper or the army's common charge sheet to the 379 alleged 'terrorists' captured from Golden Temple now detained under N.S.A. at Jodhpur.
According to the White Paper: " All Commanders were instructed to continuously use the public address systems for a number of hours at every suspected hideout of terrorists to give themselves up in order to prevent bloodshed and damage to holy places before the use of force for their apprehension." Was this actually done? Our eye-witness accounts prove that it was not. Regarding the Golden Temple, the White Paper is also specific, "During the afternoon and evening of June 5 1984 repeated appeals were made to the terrorists over the public address system to lay down their arms and surrender and to others inside the Temple to come out, to prevent avoidable bloodshed and damage to structures in the Temple Complex. In response to this appeal 129 men, women and children came out and they were handed over to the civil authorities." Is it possible to believe this version? We have seen how the Army started shelling the Golden Temple without any warning or public announcement from the early hours of June 4. They continued this firing throughout June 4 and 6. The militants also fired in reply but they were no match, either in terms of numbers of men or in amounts of ammunition. How could the Army make 'repeated appeals' during the afternoon and evening of June 5 when intense fighting was going on and how could 120 person come out during this raging battle?
The Army's version, as revealed by its chargesheet to the 379 alleged 'terrorists' detained at Jodhpur Jail, is even more incredible. On June 5, when they were supposed to have been deputed for duty outside the Golden Temple, the Army had the information that "the extremists/terrorists led by Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale had collected men, arms, ammunitions and explosives within the Golden Temple and had also made other preparations to wage war against the Government of India with the intention to establish a State independent of the Government of India to be known as Khalistan". Or in other words, Khalistan was to be established at the Golden Temple and if the A.I.S.S.F. member is to be believed, by about 100 fighters equipped mostly with 303 decrepit guns of the II World War, a few 315 rifles and some stenguns. S. S. Bhagowalia an advocate at Gurdaspur and Vice President of the Associtation for Democratic Rights (A.F.D.R. Punjab) investigated and found that Bhindranwale's supporters numbered no more that 140-150. It is strange that the White Paper has nothing to say about the Khalistan flag - a country without a flag! But the White Paper says that Khalistan was to be established at the Golden Temple. According to the Army's chargsheet and also the White Paper, in response to the Army's repeated appeals to the Terrorists to lay down their arms and surrender, they opened intensive firing from inside the Complex. "They were shouting anti-national slogans." This was a battle not a demonstration. How could 'terrorists' engage in shouting anti-national slogans at a time when they were allegedly using automatic and semi-automatic weapons, grenades, explosives, etc? Even if they did shout these slogans how could the slogans be heard over the noise of rattling stenguns and automatic rifles?
The White Paper also describes how the library was allegedly gutted on the night between June 5 and 6 - "Troops were able to enter the area around the Sarovar through the northern deori and the Southern library building. Terrorists were in control of the Library building and fired from there. At this stage, the library caught fire - the Army fire brigade was rushed but their attempts were failed by the machine-gun fire from the terrorists." A perfect brief for the Army!
But according to Duggal who was in charge of the Sikh Reference Library and who cared for it, the Library was intact when he last saw it on June 6, evening while leaving the Temple Complex. However, he was in for a terrible shock when he was brought back to the Temple complex by the Army on June 14. Let us listen to Duggal's tale of sorrow as well as courage: "On 14th June 1984 I was arrested by the Army and taken inside the Golden Temple, where I was shocked to see that the Sikh Reference Library had been burnt. The entire Golden Temple Complex presented a very, very painful look. It bore at least 3 lakhs of bullet marks. The Akal Takht was in shambles. Guru Nanak Nivas, Teja Singh Samundri Hall, Guru Ram Das Serai and the langar buildings had been burnt. When I left the Complex on 6th all those buildings were in good shape in spite of the Army Attack, Taken to the Library's ruins, I was asked by the Army Col. to take charge of the Library. I asked him as to where is the Library. He said that I had no option but to sign a typed receipt to the effect that I have taken over the charge of the Library. I refused to oblige him saying that I would not tell such a big lie."
The White Paper is very emphatic the "Troops were particularly instructed not to wear any leather items in holy places and to treat all apprehended person with dignity and consideration." What was the reality? The reality was this:-