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Unfortunately now it seems that our own Sikh community and committee in this Gurghar talk against Bhai Mohan Singh and those involved in the Mughal Darbar incident and are working with the Police to get Naujawaan arrested that took action!

I never thought this would happen in Leicester whereby our own elders and organisations such as Leicester Sikh Alliance -- who should hang their heads in shame after the posting they made on facebook calling youth involved as thugs!!!! and from what I understand are pushing for people like Bhai sahib to stopped for "hate" speech!

I am so angry that as a community even those that do something our committees and organisations have completely stabbed those that take action in the back!!!

This whole grooming issue and the Leicester case in particular are absolutely disgusting and saddens me deeply. I’m just thankful that there are people like Bhai Mohan Singh and SAS out there who are trying to combat this.

Having been on this forum for many years, I do get concerned when allegations are made against individuals or organisations on here. Singh1986, can you please share any FB comments or posts that you are referring to made by these elders or organisations?

Wouldn't it make more sense for the singhs from AKJ UK to sit with singhs from DDT UK? Ie bhai sukhraj Singh and other singhs who associate with DDT?

Rather than meeting sjngh sahib giani ram singh who comes to the uk once in a blue moon, and has little support from the singhs and very little influence on youth in the UK?

Just a suggestion....

I agree with Menu Ke Patha here! In actual fact what that meeting has done is actually cause further division in UK. So while AKJ UK are acting like hero's to the wider UK sangat...but the fact is that they are infact responsible for more disunty in UK now. As S1ngh has said, an open sadda to all Taksaal students of UK should have been done if they wanted Ekta but it wasn't...why???

wheres the intelligence? wheres the strategy?

Chinese proverb: 'It's better to light a candle than to curse the darkness'

Instead of criticising others for their inactions, we all actually need to ask ourselves...what am i doing to bring about change?

Don't expect others to start a revolution...be the revolution yourself! There's so much me can do while just residing in the West to bring about change....but the question we all need to ask ourselves is 'do we really care'?

If you really care, then be part of the solution, do something...no matter how small, just like the little girl did in Punjab.

This for me is totally the wrong kind of publicity...showing a few tricks for the masses - is that what the Khalsa has been reduced to...really?!?

And to top it off...they waved an India flag...are you kidding me!!!!!

i don't care how much publicity they received...they sold their jameer (conscience) for 3 lakh rupees...all at the expense of the panth!!!!

There are always exceptions but generally all Punjabi's today are hardwired today to put themselves first...but this can be changed...through education alone. Educate the kids and inspire them to build a relationship with Guru Jee and we will see the changes. I know of so many parents who have began changing their ways and coming more into Sikhi just because their kids go home after camps and question their parents lifestyle/actions.

With the blessing of Guru Jee, we are slowly seeing a change...it maybe be only slow change for now but slow change is better than no change. However, i can see this slow change rapidly increasing - Twai Prasaad!!

Lets just wait and see how quickly Badal removes Gianni Jee from their seva...

This is very sad news to hear if 3ho are doing this. i too am shocked to see Snatam Kaur doing that!

Also, i find Gurkha singh in the video's on Sikhnet very egotistical - he totally doesn't seem to have the humitlty a parchak needs!!!!

However, i really like all the video's of Shanti Kaur Khalsa. Shes got the humility that a parcharak needs, she can reference historical granths and is well read & it appear that she has a good knowledge of 1984- this comes across in every video she's done. Sikhnet need to drop Gurka Singh and have Bibi Shanti Kaur to do all their video's

The congress lot are a dying breed in the UK - no UK born sikhs want to join them.

What i find most ironic is that i know loads of the kids of congressi parents, and they are infact Pro-Khalistan, pro-Sant Jarnail Singh & this is going to increase with time.

If a date is fixed for Indira...please let the UK sangat know...as this then becomes an issue for the panth and not just leamington.

Have these channels taken comments from a much wider audience? Remember notices by Ofcom to SikhChannel over invitations and comments to be invited from a much wider audience to form a balance view?

Have we considered reporting these Video clips to Ofcom if they lack invitation of dedicated Sikhs and not JholiJhukhs or fake identities showing their faces.

Great idea! This is exactly whqat should be done!

It is God's hukam, and whether I recite the Bible, Koraan, Vedas or Sri Guru Granth Sahib Jee, I am still worshipping the same God and walking hand-in-hand with him. God is everything and God is infinite. Therefore, the ways to love him are limitless. Let us leave these people to find their own path and let us just focus on the short time we have to benefit ourselves and our own spirituality.

SikherOfNaam...according to you, are all religions equal to Sikhi? Are the prophets of other faiths on par with Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee?

Can someone get hold of Harinder Singh from Sikhri, who's in UK at the moment, to call in? He's a really articulate person to discuss the build up and aftermath of the massacres...

Someone has just text me saying Harinder Singh from SikhRI is the guest speaker on the show...i hope thats true?

Nihal Show will be discussing Delhi 1984 today - hopefully that clown jaswinder won't be calling in with his anti-Sikh views!

No-one else can ever gets through on the phone lines to call in...but guess what Jaswinder always does!

Please tune in on BBC Asian Network today: 2 to 3pm Today

Has Buddha Dal recognised him as the last master...yeah right! He's a self proclaimed master!

There is actually nothing controversial about it, the controversy is being started by you Internet warriors.

A non-kesadhari guy, who has really been getting interested in sikhi went to a few of the talks at the Exhibition. Basically, the main thing he took from the talks he went to was that...Sikhs are Hindu's. It only took me a few mins to put this genuine seeker of truth straight and that what he had been told was totally rubbish! He said for days he was sooo confused about what he learnt. It was ashame that i dodn't get more of a chance to speak to him about what other rubbish was taught there - i pray i get to meet him again...so i can detail everything that was talked about in the talks.

With Guru Sahib's kirpa he's felt alot happier having spoken with me..but it got me thinking...how many other innocent minds were messed with at this exhibition. Even Ashutosh or Bhaniara wala present themselves well and talk come across as "saints" to innocent people...but you only have to look past the brovada to see their truth...this is also true with this Exhibition and its organisers!

The guy also said he knew it was wrong what they were saying...but they looked like gursikhs & were professors so he felt he had to believe them - i told him that we all have to use bibek budhi blessed to us to try and desipher truth from falsehood!

done!

Well said Jonny101!

Wow...that's an amazing achievement!

The fact that Simon Hughes is the Deputy Leader of the Liberal Democrats is raising such high profile cases for Sikhs on behalf of Sikhs is an outstanding achievment by the Sikh Federation!!!

Well Done!

Babbar Sher don't forget that Manmohan Singh (Dal Khalsa UK) was also escorting Paramjit Sarna at the Parkash program in Hayes last year!!!

Think before you speak and don't be so quick to pull people down. If you think you can do better, just get up and do it.

Gurmel Singh has done more for the Sikh Sangat and the Panth in just the last year than most I know have done in there lifetimes. May Vaheguru continue to bless him with the same immense seva, dedication and commitment for many many many more years to come.

Well said Tera!!!

Dal Khalsa UK alongside the wider Dal Khalsa International ,fully suppports D - DAY,Dastaar Day & condemn the disgusting antics of Sangat TV & each and every single Jathebandi or so called 'Sikh Leaders' who appeared on Sangat TV to oppose D - DAY.Those groups/individuals who appeared on Sangat TV are out there for Self Glorification ,forget Self Determination for Khalistan.

This is the reason why the UK Sikh Community is so dis-connected with Panthic Causes - due to these rich old lazy men always wanting to take the lead,as well as impress their masters sitting in Panjab - ie: Parkash Badal - Badal Dal.All of those who appeared on Sangat TV have open links with Badal and are now open about it after the Sant Samaj alliance in the recent SGPC elections.These fake Khalistanis got upset due to the fact that they did not get to put their name on the entire event so now they try to sabotage it by all running to the Badal Backed Sangat TV ,even the Akal Takht Jathedar was flown in for the occasion.

Tell me this, is having an personal links with the Sarna brothers any better?!? Was is not Manmohan Singh of Dal Khalsa UK not accompanying Paramjit Sarna at last years Parkash program? Where's the proof that Sikh council(UK) or Sangat TV have any direct affilitations with Badal - any illiterate can make up random accusations...where is the proof?

However, 1000's, including myself, saw Manmohan Singh (Dal Khalsa - UK) come into the divan & leave the divan at Parkash with Sarna (the congress puppet).

Sarna is no better than Badal!

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That is your belief, so no problem with that, we respect different faiths, but in our faith of Sanatan Dharma it states

Brother, this is not just my belief but its also the belief of the Sikh Guru's too.

Like i said, we each have our own belifes and each to their own! Where i get annoyed is when a non-Sikh tries to tell me what my religion is and tell me that i'm a Hindu!

here we have a diatribe of rubbish written by Maxy Macuacliffe, it is this that shows the hate, one chappie held up as some sort of knowleageable person on Hinduism, dear me!! this Maxy clearly has no knowledge on Hinduism, and this causes problems, as people will defend their faiths against rubbish like the above.

Hinduism verse:

FACT!!,

any more lets us know what, will show more facts on sanatan dharma as responses to rubbish on Hinduism

Brahma, Vishnu & Shiv had flaws and were not perfect, Gurbani says so...FACT!!!

There will be some Truth within the Veda's, as is there within the Qu'ran & Bible but the fact remains, all these granth were written by Avtars who themselves had shortcomings. Our Guru Sahib's have no shortcomings, hence why Gurbani is perfect!

Sikhi respects other faiths, and resepcts everyones choice to follow any faith they wish...but Sikhi Rejects Hinduism, Islam, Christinaity due to the avtars of these faiths having shortcomings...hence why Guru Nanak started a new path

There is Truth in all religions...some have less and other have more but Sikhi is just pure Truth!

We Sikhs are very lucky because we have a Poora Guru, A True Guru & Complete Guru who doesn't have any shortcomings and is not flawed!

My local Gurdwara has a bench at the back and from my own experience, no one wants to actually sit on them. Even the people who i personally would consider acceptable to sit on them would rather struggle and sit on the floor. Everyone prefers to sit on the floor, its only those that can't even matha tekh that actually utilise them.

On a packed Sunday divan, no-one wants to be the guy that sits on the bench as people all look and in their mind question..."should he/she be even sitting on the bench".

i can only speak of my experience...no-one choses to sit on the benches...its a majbooree.

Baki, i think lowering the floor is the best compromise