Balbir Singh

What is Govind Bhajan? Is it His Simran? My next question is this. What is His Simran?

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, luckysingh99 wrote "The narak is your own creation and perception." Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਮੋਹ ਭਰਮ ਬੂਡਤ ਘਣੋ ਮਹਾ ਨਰਕ ਮਹਿ ਵਾਸ ॥ मोह भरम बूडत घणो महा नरक महि वास ॥ moh bharam booDhat ghaRao mahaa narak mahi vaas. GauRee Thitee M: 5 SGGS Ang 297-7 Attachment doubt grow dense; in mahaa narak one dwells. Is the above Vaak from the true Guru Arjan Dev Jee his own creation and perception? ***** luckysingh99 wrote "If you don't like the word Waheguru, because you think it is used only by infedels/kaffirs, like muslims do, then you can continue praising allah and go to the islam forum, but stop interfering with inspirational interactions with other sikhs on here." Waheguru (praise of the Gur) is the most precious state in a true seeker's consciousness. I have never seen it activated in a candy (Waheguru) seller. luckysingh99 wrote "You have been doing this since this thread started 3 yrs ago !" God wants you to know also the world perhaps. You are also completely naked under your garments. ***** Sorry to note those fake preachers who are trying to keep the young generation of seekers in their clutches. Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਬਿਨੁ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮ ਨ ਛੂਟਸੀ ਮਰਿ ਨਰਕ ਸਮਾਏ ॥੫॥ बिनु हरि नाम न छूटसी मरि नरक समाए ॥५॥ bin hari naam na cchooTsee mari narak samaae. Aasaa M: 1 SGGS Ang 420-18 Without Hari Naam is no salvation. By dying he sinks in narak. My humble request is this. Please do not change or replace the true Guru's words and avoid narak. Balbir Singh

Come to know the true Guru first. His praise follows automatically. True Guru's words are most precious. Does one replace the true Guru's words with Waheguru and hope to escape Narak on earth? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, The word Wahiguru is not mentioned once in this Sabad. Normally everyone moves in the sky like a kite, talking to the five companions keeping attention on the string. The most miraculous line in this Sabad is: manu raam naamaa bedhi-ale. The mind is pierced by Raam Naamaa. This is the first step of Naam Jap or Sabad Simran. The chit gets modeled like the artwork of a goldsmith. The next lines of this wonderful Sabad are about the awakening of consciousness. All born with good Karmas come to know Naam Simran first. Sree Guru Granth Saahib Jee also suggests the Jap first. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, harsharan000 wrote "Guru Granth Sahib Ji, the Sikh Holy Scripture describes the characteristics of God. Throughout 1430 pages, Guru Granth Sahib Ji describes and praises God." Please listen. In Japu Jee Saahib Guru Naanak Dev Jee is saying: asanka moorakh andh ghor. asankha chor haraamkhor. asankh amar kari jaahi jor. asankh galvadh hatiaa kamaahi. asankh paapee paapu kari jaahi. . . . . . May I ask? Are the above lines description and characteristics of God? ***** harsharan000 wrote "The opening of the scripture tells us about the description of God: "God is One. He is the . . ." In the next line he wrote "The most important aspect of being a Sikh, is to understand that, there is one endless God. He is indescribable, . . ." Strange. The poster harsharan000 can describe the indescribable. Thanks for giving so much information about the inestimable God. I hope the readers are able to know God a bit from now on. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all and luckysingh99 Jee, You wrote "I am eager to find out whose student you really are and who is this enlightened master that you learn from ?" I don't know if you can steal the enlightened master. I have never seen Him wearing a pocket. Quote "I am sure, that many of us are keen to learn and understand the same." God may bless you. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, Thanks to harsharan000 jee for referring wonderful Vaaks from Gurdev. Sorry to say that all his translations and explanations are wrong. For example he explained "In this above beautiful Shabad of Sree Guru Arjun Dev Maharaj, He is telling us something about how to become a true devotee of the Lord Wahiguru": Gurdev is not telling us something. Gurdev is directly in contact with Hari and realizing that Hari sings Hari's Attributes. Also, Hari is not Wahiguru. Can you provide one reference from Gurdev where He said that Hari is Wahiguru? ***** The title of the post #125 is "Man toon Jot Swaroop Hain Apna Mool Pachhaan." Quote "Mind derives its Light from the source which is JOT." Are you sure that mind and Jot are two different matters? Quote "Spark of the JOT is aflame, aglow in the mind and that is why and how the mind becomes alive, active. It derives its life from the Divine and Holy Flame (JOT)." Gurdev used the term Manmukh often. Is it for the active mind or the mouth of the silent mind? Quote "Once the thick black layers are washed away, mind becomes transparent and starts reflecting the JOT. It becomes tranquil and like a spotless and tranquil mirror reflects the splendour of the “JOT”. . . . It becomes “JOT SWAROOP”." Have you realized it or any of your students? Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਸਚੁ ਤਾ ਪਰੁ ਜਾਣੀਐ ਜਾ ਰਿਦੈ ਸਚਾ ਹੋਇ ॥ सचु ता परु जाणीऐ जा रिदै सचा होइ ॥ sachu taa paru jaaReeai ja ridai sachaa hoi. Asa-Vaar M: 1 SGGS Ang 468-8 One knows the Truth only when the Truth is in his heart. Strange. You tried to explain as a professional preacher "Once the thick black layers are washed away, . . ." I hope and pray your thick black layers are washed away. ***** The title of the post #126 is "REFLECTIONS." Quote "By drinking that water, nobody can be accused of stealing it," Surely, but please don't steal it from a shop. Quote "In the same way the Bani of our Guru Sahibans, is left by them for our spiritual uplift and benefit. It is our very birth right." Is it the spiritual uplifting and benefit you have shown up to now or it is your birth right you have got? Quote "The Bani is such a wonderful gift from the Lord, that no thief can steal it, . . ." Please don't do it to run your shop. Quote "Because the Bani, is not something made from the 5 elements, but rather is within each one of us, it is resounding and reverbarating within us, all the 24 hours non stop." Please stop using treachery of preachers. Do you know true Simran that works? Can it be transferred through you to all children in the school? Quote "We only need His grace, to go within and drink it as much as we want, and thus become immortal." Is His Grace possible before your next long posts? Balbir Singh

Those who steal they get a rebirth to pay it back. These copy and pasted words are not yours. Gyan from Bani is not received by stealing Gurdev's Vaaks or someone's article. ***** The borrowed article is full of anti Gurmat. Here are some examples. Quote "Free of dogmas, the Gurbani has a simple message: there is One, All-pervading Reality. Our mind is That (Joti-Svaroopa...)" Is our mind That, the All-pervading Reality? Quote "The purpose of human life is to understand this Truth through Shabad-Vichaar (Reflections on the Gurbani)," Truth is to enliven. Understanding is the faculty of mind. Quote "The Gurbani asks us to become the Gurmukh and thus live a Divine Life." The true Gurus never said that Gurmukh is a person. Quote "A practical Guide for the Divine Life (Gurmukh Lifestyle) and Universal Brotherhood, the Gurbani is the Treasure of Wisdom (Giaan-Guroo). Which provides all that's needed to raise consciousness to the Higher dimension, and become Enlightened (Liberated-Jeevan Mukta) while alive, not after death..." Please provide one example of that. That is needed to raise consciousness and it is working. Quote "Otherwise, what's the use of reasoning and intellectuality, and reading scriptures or listening to their recitations if it does not usher one in Viveka-Budhi, Wisdom, Aatm-Giaan, godly Virtues?" Strange. The rare ones have got the answer. Quote "What's the use of talking about religion, Dharma, spirituality, or Truth if not lived?" It is a business, Dhandhaa. Quote "Wahiguru is the eternal Truth, which is realized within us by love and devotion through His Simran." One should ask himself. Does he know the inner journey? Does the journey begin by reading anything? Balbir Singh

Balbir Singh, on 03 May 2014 - 17:48, said: Please answer the questions raising from the heading of the topic started by you. What is Mahimaa? luckysingh99: Something that you obviously don't and won't understand. Balbir Singh: God please provides me also the spiritual food as ever. My mind does not have needs to understand it either. What is Mahimaa of Wahiguru ? luckysingh: How will you know if you don't believe in the utterings of the word ''Waheguru'' ?? Balbir Singh: God has written often the word "Waheguru" through this creature. Please read my posts. Is that not enough? Some utter the word "Wahiguru" to influence God. God utters praises (wah) of the Gur (wisdom) through some rare ones. What is His Naam? luckysingh: This has to be experienced to understand it. To make and define naam in a box of words or a paragraph won't get you any closer. If practical effort is made, then one may begin to experience and understand it Balbir Singh: What kind of Naam is that where awareness of His, Her or Mine remains? What is His Gurmukhs? luckysingh: If you don't know or get this, then I don't know what gurbani is supposed to mold a person into ? Balbir Singh: The wisdom (Gur) that flows out of the mouth is Gurmukh. Gurmukh is not a person, O! The dumb dummy.

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, The poster harsharan000 wrote "There is only one Wahiguru for all." Again, you have combined two words from SGGS jee that Gurdev never did. One as counting number comes in the beginning of SGGS jee. One is written as a number not as a word. The counting number one (1) occurred through Guru Naanak Dev jee's Baanee. The word Wahiguru did not occur through any of the Gurus. The word Wahiguru first occurs through Bhatt Gayand jee that also three times in a row. ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਵਾਹਿ ਜੀਉ ॥ वाहिगुरू वाहिगुरू वाहिगुरू वाहि जीउ ॥ wahiguroo wahiguroo wahiguroo wahi jeeo. SGGS Ang 1402-11 Bhatt Gayand jee, in my observation, never used the number one (1) before Wahiguroo. Why? May I ask why Gayand jee is singing the word Wahiguru three times in a row? Does Wahiguru reduces to One later? Do One and three Wahigurus vanish in none also? Strange, after the true Gurus a third group of paapies injected true Sikhi with new rules. One of the results is the new formation of words. They started combining any two words from Gurdev on the name of their Sikhiaa, teachings. Combining of any words from SGGS jee has become the deep-rooted habit now in the lost generation. The wisdom of Naam is lost. The business of paapies is flourishing. All those who are blessed with true Naam Simran realize that Wahiguru word today has become a Dhandhaa (business). ***** Please answer the questions raising from the heading of the topic started by you. What is Mahimaa? What is Mahimaa of Wahiguru? What is His Naam? What is His Gurmukhs? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, The poster harsharan000 wrote "From harsharan000, you convert into gursharan000...." This is how a jeeva gets the new name after each rebirth and immediately recognizes his gathered karmas. The poster harsharan000 in a flash recognized this post was for him. Perhaps he is a long traveling jeeva going through rebirths as the result of similar doings. The poster h. wrote "you hate to listen Wahiguru´s mahima..." Only big paapies change, combine and misinterpret true Guru's words. True Gurus never combined the words Wahiguru and Mahimaa. The poster h. wrote ".Whatsoever mahima of Wahiguru from the Bani of our Guru Sahibans, is written, you just get shocks by reading and listening to it." I am shocked at the poor knowledge of preachers like you. The poster h. wrote "This is a proof, that you are an evil being." In my view, evil beings are those who misinterpret and combine true Guru's words wrongly. He combined Guru's words Mahimaa and Wahiguru, His and Naam also His and Gurmukhs, only to run his business by misleading the true seekers. Gurdev never used these combinations of words. Why? All are waiting for an answer from harsharan000? The poster Harsharan000 wrote "know that God never protects the ego. The ego is a vice of the mind, which you have in unlimited quantity.... He protects His jeevas, which are same in essence as Him." Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਦੁਖਿ ਸੁਖਿ ਏਹੁ ਜੀਉ ਬਧੁ ਹੈ ਹਉਮੈ ਕਰਮ ਕਮਾਇ ॥ दुखि सुखि एहु जीउ बधु है हउमै करम कमाइ ॥ dukhi sukhi ehu jeeo badhu hai haumai karam kamaai. SreeRaagu M: 3 SGGS Ang 67-4 God protects all jeevas. They may be with ego or without. The poster harsharan000 wrote "For the third time you are mistaken again as usual." I may be mistaken but please answer the questions. What is Mahimaa? What is Mahimaa of Wahiguru? What is His Naam? What is His Gurmukhs? I hope you are not one of those preachers who begin to recite or sing Guru's Words and go on cursing others during rest of the time. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, ਸਾਸ ਸਾਸ ਤੇਰੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ਓਟ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਚਰਣਾ ਜੀਉ Saas Saas Thaerae Gun Gaavaa Outt Naanak Gur Charanaa Jeeo सास सास तेरे गुण गावा ओट नानक गुर चरणा जीउ The only precious sentence from your post is the reference of Gurdev's Vaak. Rest. All is filth of gursharan000's mind. The poster h wrote "Guru Dev is saying: I sing your praises with each and every breath ....." O egoist and egotist, please explain it. Which word from Guru's Vaak is translated as "I" here? He wrote in Postscript "I am harsharan000. Means I am zero at all the 3 levels, but inspite of that,I have taken refuge at the Lotus feet of Har." Poster harsharan000 used three times, the word "I" in one sentence. He added "That is why, it becomes harsharan000. I have His protection." Yes, surely God is protecting your ego maybe for another eighty four-lakh rebirths. ***** All that a moorakh knows is not Gyan. Your ego didn't allow the curiosity in you to sprout. What is Mahimaa? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, ਸਾਸ ਸਾਸ ਤੇਰੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਵਾ ਓਟ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਚਰਣਾ ਜੀਉ Saas Saas Thaerae Gun Gaavaa Outt Naanak Gur Charanaa Jeeo सास सास तेरे गुण गावा ओट नानक गुर चरणा जीउ ਸਿਫਤਿ ਸਾਲਾਹਣੁ ਤੇਰਾ ਹੁਕਮੁ ਰਜਾਈ Sifath Saalaahan Thaeraa Hukam Rajaaee सिफति सालाहणु तेरा हुकमु रजाई Thanks for referring Gurdev. These wonderful Vaaks are from SGGS Ang 100-6 The poster gursharan000 wrote "Now from both the above lines. Guru Jee, is telling us, that not only it is not impossible to sing His mahima, but actually He himself does so," His mind is completely in checkmate over him. He is trying to prove Gurdev's statement false. This creature with three holes at his back wrote "that not only it is not impossible to sing His Mahima, but actually He himself does so." I am sorry to observe the downfall of Sikhi in hands of such preachers. God! Please bless us with the wisdom of Naam through the true Guru. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all and Sat1176 jee, One may realize attributes of Hari only by true Simran of Hari Naam. Praise of His attributes may develop afterwards by Hari Kirpaa. Attributes of Hari are godly. Praise of His attributes is through His creatures. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਬਰਨਿ ਨ ਸਾਕਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਮਹਿਮਾ ਪੇਖਿ ਰਹੇ ਬਿਸਮਾਦ ॥੨॥੫੫॥੭੮॥ बरनि न साकउ नानक महिमा पेखि रहे बिसमाद ॥२॥५५॥७८॥ barani na saakau naanak mahimaa pekhi rahe bismaad.2.55.78 Saarang M: 5 SGGS Ang 1219-14 Naanak cannot utter Mahimaa, observing one is wonder-struck. Strange that the poster harsharan000 writes "if anything is worthy being done in this world, that is singing His Mahima," ***** Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਤੇਰੀ ਮਹਿਮਾ ਤੂੰਹੈ ਜਾਣਹਿ ॥ तेरी महिमा तूंहै जाणहि ॥ teree mahimaa tooNhai jaaRahi. Maajh M: 5 SGGS Ang 108-17 Your Mahimaa you alone know. I know now at least one born out of bho scented who writes "and through them we are able today to listen and sing His Mahima." ***** Thanks for referring the wonderful Vaak from Gurdev. ਆਪਿ ਗਾਵਾਏ ਸੁ ਹਰਿ ਗੁਨ ਗਾਉ ॥ आपि गावाए सु हरि गुन गाउ ॥ aapi gaavaae su hari gun gaao. GauRee Sukhmanee M: 5 SGGS Ang 270-19 Those, whom He inspires to sing, sing Hari's Attributes. ***** This is a request to gursharan000 jee. Please let all kids know what is His Gurmukh. I will also be obliged. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, Something seems to have gone wrong with harsharan000 jee. His knowledgeable teacher is perhaps the dictionary. Praise is an expression through words. My true Guru explained that Mahimaa cannot be expressed through words. ***** Harsharan000 jee, It is nice to meet you on this forum again. Please let all kids know what is His Gurmukh. I will also be obliged. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, N30S1NGH Jee, Thanks for referring the PAADHRAI STANZA. Please point out precisely which Vaak from Gurdev is saying that His Agam Roop (non moving form) and Jot Saroop (flames alike form) is the same? I will be grateful. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all and N30S1NGH Jee, Is Agam Roop (non moving form) and Jot Saroop (flames alike form) the same? Agam Roop has its place in mind whilst mind is like a Jot (flames). Are these not two different experiences? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, N30S1NGH wrote "Inquire where and what is that agam roop, this is your real self..!!!!!!!!!!!!" Did Gurdev ever say that your real self has His Place in mind? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, harsharan000 jee, luckysingh99 jee and Barindersingh jee, Did you ever have a Veechaar? What is Mahimaa and why Gurdev always felt unable to express HIS Mahimaa? Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, The true Seekers realize the thirst for learning first. The Supreme provides them the medium. The seeker comes to know Naam, its wisdom and the medium (i.e., the Sadhu). All activities take place through us in the same manner. It may be the desire to earn the bread for living, having a family, name or fame. Rare are those who truly seek and get Naam in human body. Thanks and love to all. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, luckysingh99 wrote "Kindly point me in the direction of a katha vachak that has not had the need for Bhai Gurdas ji vaaran ?" Katha Vachaks are story tellers. It would be appropriate if they tell their own story than others. But that is also possible in an awakened state. L. wrote "Is it not the kunji/key or do you need proof of Guru Arjan devji's words as well ?" It is a lock not on a box even. Guru Arjan Dev jee did not even mention the word "Gurdaas." L. wrote "Do you need proof that guruji started to put the compiled writings of adi granth on a raised bed/maji whilst he slept lower ?? or should he have documented this in Sri Guru Granth sahib ji ?" Should Sikhs start worshiping the printing machines and the mechanics working on it too? luckysingh99 wrote. You are asking the ridiculous and pathetic question of ''is Bhai Gurdas ji your Guru ?'' Are you so helpless saying "yes" or "no?" Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all, BarinderSingh jee wrote "In this tuk the word Singh is not written." The Poster Singh is in Inder's Bar. It is not surprising that he did not find Singh in SGGS Jee. The Poster B. "You did not answer my question." Imbued in ego and tipsy in Agyaan, please read the reverend Guru's Vaak again. The Poster B. "You harped on harsharan poster to present where mahima comes with Vaheguru. He actually produced something that was close." How close are those words? Surely not that close as your mind has realized. The true Guru says that His Mahima cannot be expressed through words. You plead that Mahimaa of Wahiguru can be expressed. The Poster B. "Yet you produced nothing what you said." The Supreme is active in me too. He is the only Producer. The Poster B. "Here comes the same ridiculous question you asked me. Is your blood family your Guru?" Your mind has dodged you again. This is your question, not mine. My questions are these. "Is BHAI GURDAS JI your Guru?" and "Did the true Gurus ever mention Bhai Gurdas ji's name in SGGS jee?" Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all and BarinderSingh Jee, You wrote "I will surely answer your question after you answer mine." Sure, children want to have ice cream first. You asked "Why do you put Singh in your name?" This human body got birth in a Sikh family with surname Singh. This is how I got the surname Singh. You asked further "Show me where in Sri Guru Granth Sahib ji it says to put Singh in your name?" Please listen. Gurdev is singing. ਰਾਜੇ ਸੀਹ ਮੁਕਦਮ ਕੁਤੇ ॥ राजे सीह मुकदम कुते ॥ raaje seeh mukdam kute. malaar-vaar M: 1 SGGS Ang 1288-7 Kings are Seeh, the lions. The Courtiers are dogs. Balbir Singh

Pray Truth for all and say Sat Sree Akaal, Dear all and N30S1NGH jee, Naam is the true Naam when one receives it as Gur Prasaad. Naam is not received by reading an article or a Granth. Balbir Singh