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bhula chuka maf

try to go if u can

im sure it will be craz to meet them

bhula chuka maf

y do u celebrate guru jes gurpurab?

obviuosly to celebrate the fact tha vaheguru that day took the form of a guru in real life that someone can see and toch and helped this world and spread a light into kaljug

we celebrate the births of sants for the same reason, to celebrate the coming of great sants tha come to save the worold( as per gurbanee), and we remeber there passing away

a bahm giani neevr dies

but they choose to leave there wordly bodies, just as our gurus never died

they jus left there wordly bodies

they are not dead, very much alive

a brahm giani is a person

if u choose to use thuks from sukhmanee shaib, also use the thuk that says he alone is a brahm giani who god makes so

wow thas wat GURBANEE SAYS

by remebrin the barsee of any gurmukh, we are remebring there jeevan

there selfless sacrafice

there extreme seva

there bhagthee

w/e they did that was noticed by the world

it is not anti gurmath at all

oone thin where people get extremle confused when reading english trnalstion is thinking that when it says a brahm giani never dies, this doesnt mean that the brahm giani can always be physically seen

it just means that brahm gianis athma is eternal npw, because it has joined into akaal

and because akaal is enternal, the brahm ginai being merged and one with god also becomes eternal now

they just CHOOSE to leave there body

this example is to all gurmukhs

a tru gurmukh will never die, gurbanee says thsi many times

but then how u explain gurmukhs dying?

it desont talk about physical sareer

it is talking bout our athma, when a normal person dies THAT person will die, they will go ontpo another joon, that particualt life form is foreever and ever dead

but a brahm giani, having achived liberation is alive forver anad evr

BECAUSE they have become one with akaal who lives forever and ever

bhula chuka maf

man all this jus reminds me of how much i miss baba je:(:lol:

sometimes hukam is so hard to accept

man baba je was so great

there life will alkways be an inspiration to me

comeplete selfless sacrafice to the panth

vaheeguru

dhan dhan baba thakr singh je

i belive that if we learn to let go of our ego and accept vaheguru je one day sceince can be a completly perfect tool for humans

perfect

but if we doubt the existance of vaheguru

the obviously

ure gonna keep on having problems such as

where did the first cell come from?

u must realise the great creator working everything, the cause of causes

this is the one thing of science i am agasint

that its all CHANCE

nowi agree wa i am goin to post is ma BELIEF and opinion

but

do u really think the unvierse, life, is all chance?

and once u see the way sceince works, how life works, how bacteria, archea, the small forms of life, all the way to huge animals such as big whales work anf function, how the earth is a t perfect tempatures for life, this in ma opinion cannot be chance

this is all caused by the cause of causes, akaal

but if u do not belive this, i cannot prove this to u, and u cannot prove ure opinon t me

but i can say that vaheguru cannot be comphrended, only expirenced

bhula chuka maf

sinister je is right 100 percent man

that is the law of nature

in order to survive sometimes other species are not so lucky...

thas just the way this play works

look in nature

sinsters example is a good one

will a lion show mercy to its prey?

y not?

cause if it does it will die

snsinter has given very good examples

i also wanna rmind peole guru je used leather sheaths, so its not like we cant use animals to help humans

now what i do NOT agree to

is hurting animals for something stupid like makeup

thas jus stupid

but for some medcines we have, i think its is perfectly ok to do this

bhula chuka maf

hes craaz at raag

hes from buddhal dal nihuungs too i think

was hazoori ragee for looong time

craz singh sahib

bhula chuka maf

i do agree with veer intarnational akali je tha we shud try our bests to give as much money as we can to the poor

but make sure u dont give MONEY

but items such as food

if u give money chances r they gonna buy drugs, etc.

cause thas one of the main reasons peole r poor and stuff

drugs

a very bad thign

donating to gurughar is not bad

gurughars have HUGE BILLS Man

how u think gurughar pays bills lol

many times ive noticed comitee memebrs pay a lot of money from there own pockets to help gurughar heated, etc.

doing charawa to gurughars is not a bad thing

we shud do everthing in ma opinion

give to poor, gurughars, everyone

bhula chuka maf

ok sisnter we wil not stray off of topic

but gurbanee does say vaheguru knows all tha has passes, and all tha will pass

this is merley his play set into action

but w/e we are all learners

im sure i am wrong many times, guru je will teach me:)

as for holes in science

such as in a vacuole

there are no atoms or no substances at ALL?

hmm intresting and when i posed this question tomy physics teacher

his respense tome was

btw hes a siikkk safe teacher,makes u think of things

but

bak t the point

for example the vacuoles in space, if they are consiting of nothing, then how are they there?

theremus tbe smething that makes them up

such as the theroy of the first celland creation

that all cells emerge from the first cell

wat the heckk

where did that come from?

so the entire universe is just a huge coincidence?

i dunt think so

obiviously there is a larger power behind these acts

there are many many tings, and as i learn more i get more curious into these things and they are very intrsting

sceince is ill

to me is makes me jus go wow man, holy

vahegurus play is such a beautful and complex one, its not no ordinary thing

its extremoly complex, and vaheguru created al of this?

woww , to me thas jus aamzing

but sceince for now has its holes

in its theriors

did u kno tha whn proving albert einstiens theroies, the sceintists actuall discareded the data that did not prove his theroy, and pretended like it didnt happen:S( ma physics teachers tells us mad stuff like this, hes a young guy, so he loves this stuff i guess)

there are many books u can read on stuff like this

but w/e lol this aint no science forum

im sure i got much more to leanr, i do

but

its obvious sceince is not a complete knowledge yet

it has many holes in ites theriors when u ask the teachers they cant asnwer, because they aint gonna say tha god is the power beihind all these actions, but w/e

as for the topic

i see nutin wrong wit clonin

its not like tis a bad thing to have medical advances

if it is, i dunt see y guru je wud give out rare medicines

its sall gud man

it can save lives

bhula chuka maf

i was gonna wagtch the island wit ma boyz

but i heard it SUKKKKED

from soem older boyz

lool

bhula chuka maf

first of all

guru je knew all that had passed, all that will pass

guru je knew everything

so please dont write comments such as guru je cudnt conceive of such advnacnemtns etc etc

the more i now understand sceince the more holes i see in it, extremly large holes in many theris

i also see the wonders man has been able to do through vaheguru jes kirpa

its amazin

guru je has given this race amazing advancments

but its all vahegurus kirpa

this is where mans ego kicks in

o well u see the gurus were not that intellgient

they could not conceice mesios, mitosis, and the errm, and the dna code and the gens which it is comrpised of etc etc

guru je was sent here to help man kind in its spiturual path

which is mankinds most important path of all

the path that is simply not only limited to this world

guru je did not come here to give man a chemisty set, or a bilogy text book

they came here to gice us naam, and to let us expirence something that is inconcevable, something that cannot be understood, even if expirenced, even by our "great" minds

to me, cloing to create organs, understand our dna, etc.

is a very good thing

i see no reason y guru je wud be agasint this

if anyone can see any reasons, please share em

bhula chuka maf

i am a khalistani

everyone calls me khalistani

im all for khalstaan

100 percnt

but

i kno for a fact there were bad people int he movement as well

truth is the truth

no matter what

not every little thing is the gov fault

althought the majoirty of it was the gov effort into making the sikh movement look like terrorist which wud result in loss of support

but some people form our own groups for own greed, and some for own intrests did some very bad things

like i said

all the people devoted to the khalstaan cause, the TRU KHALSTANEES, shud be sants and siapahees

if we are a sipahee and not a sant there will be problems

we must be both

saint soldiers

bhula chuka maf

veer je

its sath sri akaal

meaining god is tru

soorma is a great warrior

i think ure next word is soora which is the same thing

vadiaaee is greatness, i guess tha the best word for english

bhula chuka maf

first check if its a shabad from guru granth sahib je

if it aint, then u wont b able to find it on sttm

and

maybe if u posted the gurmukhee verion it wud be easier to find?

:lol:

bhula chuka maf

ok best to do it now lol otherwise ill never do it, jus answe ure questions fastly

a khalistani shud neevr kill a innocent peerson

that is agaisnt the laws of dharm yudh

a tru khalstanee at heart will never kill an innocent

if one calling himself khalstanee does this, i belive that person shud be first proven guilty, and then sangat and panj pyarai decide his punishment as they see fit, which i think shud be the harshest of all punishments, as guru je showed wit the masands as u ureself said...

as for infiltration

this is almost unstoppable

gov is very sneaky like this

however

one thnig we can do

is make sure all khalstanees fighting for the causwe

will al be pakaii gursikhs

and everytone shud wake together at amrti vela

and do bhagthee together, naam simran and the reading of gurbanee and singing of kirtan

in the evening they shud all come together again to do gurmath veecharan, listen to katha, and do kirtan and rehraas sahib, some more simran

jus do bhagthee together as much as u can

jus stay with the sangat

the fakes will be exposed themselves if guru je wants tha to happen

to get freeedom

all methods will be used

as long as they keep in line of wat guru je has said

and wat gurbanee says

and they keep in line with the rules of dharm yudh, and we keep in mind the essenc eof being a sant sipahi, a saint soldier

and if the last option is again to take up our shastars, we wil do so as guru je commanded us to do

a tru khalsa will not watch tyranny

a tru khalsa wil destroy it

as for towards other religons

this is y all singhs need to understand gurbanee

all singhs fighting for khlalstaan when the tijme comes will need to understand that the cause is to destroy tyranny and gain freedom for sikhs and other downtrodden people from a corrupt gov

this is not a moorcha agasint other religons etc.

we shud keep in mind how guur je helped maseeths for muslims

if we can keep in mind our sikhi and gurbanee, and then combine that with the idealogy of a soldier, we will become perfect khalsai

tru sant sipaihis

this is wat needed

the combination and the merging of the saint and the soldier

how do we do this?

by gettin together, reading gurbanee together, doiong gurbanee vechaaran together, building our jeevans

if we have a strong sikhi as our fouindation the rest wil be ok

like sant jarnail singh je himself said

if guru hargobind sahib je behind us there is no power on this world that can stop us

if we beocome tru guru valai, and become like tru singhs and singhneea, we will no be able to commit attrcoties

if i made any mistakes, my fault

if u got any more questions,im sure everyone will b happy to answeer them

or if u got a question wit wat i said, go ahead and ask:)

bhula chuka maf

ok....

ill asnwer them here

u act like ure questions arwe unanswerable or somethin

i will post some answer to the best of ma ability as soon as it get time, maybe tomm,.if guru je has kirpa

bhula chuka maf

happy bday man

guru je kirpa karn

bhula chuka maf

:lol:

if u have hotmail, add me at khalstanee_2006@hotmail.com

and i will give u answers with kirpa

bhula chuka maf

dhan guru pyarai

they come into this world to save it

:lol:

bhula chuka maf

i agree wit heera singh je

unless we know the situation adn exactly wa happenes we shyud jus leave it

bhula chuka maf

i think tha guru gobind singh jhe himself wrote a small saroop i belive which he kept wit himself at all times

maybe im wrong...

bhula chuka maf

dhan dhan sant baba thakur singh je

ill never forget tha one time i got to meet baba je

i think tha was the last time thye came to tornto

and i got soo luckyy, i went on the lasyt day to get there darshan

ill never forget that day

the power coming from baba je made ma mind go craz, i havnt seen tha much, aside from guru je and one other gurmukh i knew who also passed away

baba je was AMAZIING

there life was a pure example of wat a tru sevedaar shud live like

not wanting anything for themselves

just giving seva for the panth

baba je was a tru gem in the panth

i wass extremly sad on the day to hear they left, i kno its hukam, but sometimes its hard to bear

baba je will alwayus be remeberd

dhan dhan baba thakur singh je

bhula chuka maf

i think the main thing is

both are good

a stage is ok too, i agree with gurpreet pajee where the stage shud be pointed to guru je

i also agree that its ok to not have a stage when not evryone is doing kirtan, as long as u put an extra chadar under the keertanis, who usually also have gutkai, etc.

both r good:)

btw for olden dayz, even ptting a chadar on the floor, an extra one, is ok

its just a sign of respect

bhula chuka maf

the website has made inccorenct trnalatons of banee before too ive noticed

ive never heard from and taksali singh tha u shdunt kill a black cow...

so i dun kno bout tha

if u wanna get TAKSALS opiion on tha i gues go ask some of the more older knewloagble singhs instead of relying soley ona website

:lol:

and benti to respect ALL maryadas

instead of saying trhey were unedcated pindoos who opened there dehras for personal gains

thas very serious thiings to say, and people shud watch wa they say when they say stuff like tha

live and let live

if u follow sgpc maryada, great

go ahead

if u folow taksal, great, go ahead

if akj, great go ahead

but we still ALL sikhs

who belive in guru je as our guru

so dont be hatin on ure brothers

bhula chuka maf

iif aomsone is reading banee, due to respect of the banee that person shud be sittin at an elevated level

unless

everyone is singin banee together, then it really dont matter, everyone shud be sittin equal level

wwe cud use thr arguemtn well oo in guru jes times it wasnt done like this

well then if u gonna go allt he way bak then get rid of the bajai, bring out the old insturments, and start doin it in raags too

its no big deal if there is a stage or no stage

sall gud

jus listen tothekirtan

but when everyones doing kirtan TOGTHER then it shud be on equal floor

bhula chuka maf