Nirvair S Khalsa

WHERE IS BABBU MANN AND HIS YOU TUBE SUPPORTERS NOW?

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php/topic/48536-ashutosh-followers-kill-sikhs-with-support-of-police/

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php/topic/48540-breaking-sikhs-and-jatha-singhs-of-sant-dhadrianwale-fired-upon-and-injured/

ON SIKH CHANNEL (SKY 840) NOW!

Important Note to the Sikh Parcharaks...Please refrain from using words such as "mona", "kona", "roda", "poda", "coda", "shoda" or "hair cut" as they are likely to cause offense. Please do not make references to "Amrit", "Kes",or anyway use the term "Singh Sajo" as it will cause a youtube riot.. Please refrain from the use of any transport and walk the streets barefoot...Please remain elusive and quiet so that you can be overshadowed by the Punjabi pop singer...Please reduce your fan base so that the pop stars can have a piece of the action...

Its interesting as no one bigged up the Shaheedi Albums - Immortal Productions as much as they are this album, and Immortal Productions have done huge amounts of parchar, people want to give babu mann a gold medal, we have dal khalsa supporting him, tarna dal, and alot of other jathebandi supporting it, but how many of these support immortal productions or appeal to the sangat to purchase the karkoo vaars of the singhs.

The same people who have multiple maryadas are the ones that gave there heads when needed, sant jarnail singh jee didnt follow the 'panthic maryada' yet a majority of singhs associated with the jatha gave their heads. Does anyone even know how this apparent maryada was made? its a total joke.

The album has been received very well in Panjab and across the World and is played all day on most radio stations in the UK,and is found on every mobile phone in Panjab - Khalistan.The Babas,Deras,Sant Samajis with their own modified marayadas have to realise they DO NOT OWN SIKHISM OR THE SIKH QOUM

sant samaj has multipal marayadas a fact, allmost every dera follows their own.so are preaching sikhi or diving sikhs.

you allways say sant ji is alive and he ran away from fight and is in hiding and now you are saying he gave his head.

make up your mind clown

Khalisitan_Zindabaad has made some excellent points. If you re-read his post, you will see there is no contradiction at all.

Please note that Bhai Hardeep Singh Jee in Post 16 and Sukhdev Singh Jee in Post 18 are replying to comments made by "taksalio" - the quotes have not worked correctly.

Can those who have made allegations above that Sukhbir Badal made threats to Babbu Mann (and Sant Ranjit Singh Jee Dhadrianwale have something to do with this???) please elaborate and provide some sort of backing for this statement by way of news articles in media...etc? The present state Government, currently influenced by the RSS, have no reason to support anyone who does Panthic Parchaar, only to oppose them in the best way they can. In regards to Sant Ranjit Singh Jee making clear his position to this, firstly, why would he do this just because one person, on an internet Sikh forum, unknown, has made such a suggestion without any backing (assuming for now until reply is received)? Secondly, making requests on a forum will not do anything, the one who requests this should approach Sant Ranjit Singh Jee themselves, or if they were in Patiala, they should have gone to Gurdwara Parmeshar Dwar Saahib then and cleared whatever doubts they had about anything. Unless there is evidence of these threats (and any links to Sant Ranjit Singh Jee), then there is nothing further to be said.

This whole issue is the creation of the so called baba. The story now is that they watched the various videos on youtube and thought that was the official video. We all know about the tirade that was then launched by Dhadrianwala and moran-wala.

moran-wala was on Punjab Radio the other day and said he spoke up for the panth (do we need a wife deserter to be a panthic spokesman?) after he was made aware of the youtube videos which he thought were the official videos. So this guy gets stroppy based on what peopel tell him without bothering to do any research. I wonder how much of his other material is just wishy washy stories without any evidence base. Again if he is a soorma let him have takar with central government and punjab sarkar.

Then we had Dhadrianwala showing krodh when he made his now infamous speach where he belittled mona, subsequently people have highlighted the sewa done for the panth by people who were monay such as Shaheed Bhai Sukh Singh Ji and Shaheed Bhai Jinda Singh Ji, also the soorme currently on trial for destroying the dirty phoola nang. Now lets Dhadrianwala release a statement taking back his words against mona especially with regards to the above mentioned panthic gems. If he has so much krodh then let him make a stand against the centre or punbjab sarkar....rather than getting Sukhbir Badal to make threats against Babbu Mann. Shaheed Baba Jarnail Singh Ji was always ready to take on the the centre and punjab sarkar.

Now we have Dhadrianwala shills telling us he has sold the Audi for the 25th anniversery of the 84 genocide. A shame that it takes an anniversery for him to sell the car, our mothers and sisters from the 84 genocide existed before the 25th anniversery and continue to exist. Let him sell the farmland he has recently bought for their benefit or will we have to wait for the 30th anniversery for him to remember them again. With the income he generates on 1 european tour he could uplift these poor widows and give them a better life. Some will say what do you do for these widows...I give what I can afford, I have no dera to build nor do I seek donations from people across the world. I applaud Dharinwala for marrying off the 105 girls but I would love for him to fill the big void currently in Sikhi and be prepared to take on the centre and tell them to take care of Tytler and co else we will and to help the victims of the 84 genocide on a larger scale.

Its also a shame that people highjack Sukhmani Sahib as a cover for these baba without even delving into the use of the Sant prefix in the time of our beloved Guru Ji. What these people need to ask is are todays 600 odd selfstyled Sant in punjab deserving of the title that was used by Guru Ji to refer to Bhagats and Guru Ji.

We all know the hyperbole and the exaggeration created by youtubers and media. It is there from where the matter became so big, and this 'Munda Southall Da' is just adding to the hate and trying to further officialise the war being between Dhadrianwale and Babbu Mann. It has not took Dhadrianwale 25 years to realise anything, Dhadrianwale talk in diwaans about 1984 frquently and a side question, how do you know they don't do anything? They do the Anand Karaj of 100 daughters EVERY year. You can hardly complain about Dhadrianwale for not doing enough, why don't you critisize other parchaaraks? Why don't you start on people like Bhai Harjinder Singh (Sri Nagar Wale), not saying that you should but I find it slightly one-sided that you only try to attack Dhadrianwale.

Only those who truly do anything will be criticised, complained about and picked on. History is witness to this. Don't forget, Sant Ranjit Singh Jee is only about 25 years of age anyway!

These daughters that are married off are also looked after by the Jathebandhi after as well. Gurdwara Parmeshar Dwar Saahib is open 24-hours a day, including service in the Langar Hall. That is not the norm in Panjab. Thousands of poor families are fed at the Gurdwara every week. A lot is being done, one needs to go to Panjab for themselves to ascertain how much one person is doing for the Panth. Sitting in foreign countries without solid information and speaking negatively about someone who is doing so much at such a young age is, to put it bluntly, shamefully foolish.

Highly laudable. It's good to be married in a multiple marriage even if you're rich. It reduces haumai.

S. Dhadrianwale, AKJ, Damdami Taksal, other taksals, Nihang Singhs, NSSS, and everyone else who believes in Amrit, Gurmanter, and Gurbani should come together to preach Sikhi.

Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Jee Dhadrianwale are very fond of Akhand Keertan, as they said in the UK diwaans in the summer. They also confirmed that they have requested the Akhand Keertani Jatha in India to come to Gurdwara Parmeshar Dwar Saahib every month to do Raensbhayee Keertan Darbars after the new Darbar Saahib and Lanagr Hall has opened. Now that this has happened a few weeks ago, there will be monthly AKJ Raensbhayee's at Gurdwara Parmeshar Dwar Saahib starting very soon. Each monthly programme will begin with Dhadi Vaaran by Dhadi Jatha's in India (as started by the 6th Guru), and followed by Katha. The same request made to the Akhand Keertani Jatha was also made to Kathavaachaks of Damdami Taksaal, where Katha will be done after the Dhadi Vaaran, just before the Raensbhayee starts, that would obviously go throughout the night.

Good article, it clears the (well-known) truth behind Major Sandhu.

"Munda Southall Da" is "Bundha Babbu Mann Da"

MAJOR SANDHU'S VOTING SYSTEM AND LIVE CALL-IN DISCUSSION WAS A BIASED SET-UP

26 November 2009

Sikhs have been angered by Major Sandhu, the presenter on Venus TV's "Munda Southall Da" discussion and live call-in show after telephone cut-offs, biased dialogue, and rumours that his voting system was a set-up.

SikhiParchar, thanks for this long but informative post on Major Sandhu.

Whatever your opinion on S. Dhadriawale, it's hard to understand why they were afraid to make their points in front of thousands of people where they could have had the most impact. Were they afraid Ranjit Singh Ji would have been able to easily refute their allegations?

who doing the lava in kirtan soooo amazing

Gurdev Singh ji (Australia) Akj

They really are amazing!

Gyanee Gurdev Singh Jee (Australia) are world famous for their Akhand Keertan, and very close to Sant Baba Ranjit Singh Jee Dhadrianwale. They came specially from Australia to India for the Parmeshar Dwar Samagam.

This is going to be a very unique event. Everyone who can, should attend.

This is going to be a very unique event. Everyone who can, should attend.

is this that major fool sandhu:

http://aspwebdesigne.../biography.html

It is.

Baba Baljeet Singh ji Dadu Sahib wale made some good points on the show..

They did. Please note that many of Sant Baba Baljit Singh Jee's points were cut out by Chardikla Time TV, but the show will now be broadcast again with Sant Baba Baljit Singh Jee's interview shown in full.

TODAY

Monday 23 November 2009

This weeks...

QAUM DI GAL

on

THE SIKH CHANNEL

(Sky 840 or www.SikhChannel.tv)

at

9.45pm (UK Time)

...will be a discussion about the Mass Sikh Lobby of the UK Parliament that took place on Thursday 19 November 2009.

For those who missed it on Monday, there will be a repeat of this programme at 8.00pm (UK Time) today.

For those who missed it on Monday, there will be a repeat of this programme at 8.00pm (UK Time) today.

On Thursday 19 November around 150 Sikh representatives took part in a lobby at the Houses of Parliament. Over 200 MPs were contacted prior to the lobby and over 100 MPs, including Ministers were lobbied on the day itself. Meetings were held with around 25-30 MPs or their assistants, including:

John Austin, Paramjit Dhanda, Mike Gapes, Sandra Gidley, Rt Hon Patricia Hewitt, Alan Keen, Ann Keen, John Lancaster, Bob Laxton, Fiona Mactaggart, Mike O'Brien, Virendra Sharma, Dr Phyllis Starkey, Mark Todd and Keith Vaz.

Five issues were raised during the lobby:

i) the campaign for separate ethnic monitoring of Sikhs for the Census 2011 where the Office for National Statistics (ONS) is ignoring the needs of the Sikh community

MPs were requested to copy their Sikh constituents all correspondence with Jil Matheson the new head of the Office for National Statistics (ONS). MPs were informed an Early Day Motion (EDM) would be tabled and that they would be urged to support. If Parliamentary protocol or other reasons prevent them from signing the EDM a letter of support was requested.

ii) the need for a Code of Practice on Sikh articles of faith where the UK Government has been dragging its heels for four and half years and Sikhs are experiencing more and more difficulties Kara, Kirpan, Turban (Dastaar) etc.

Parliamentary Questions were raised with all Government Departments and raised in Parliamentary Debate in April 2005. The UK Government promised at that time in Parliament a Code of Practice, but then changed its mind after the General Election. The Government was again reminded in December 2006 in Parliamentary Debate by MPs from all the main political parties of its promise.

Despite considerable political pressure and numerous individual cases of discrimination the UK Government is still in the process of developing a Code of Practice. Following the lobby the relevant Minister confirmed the Equality & Human Rights Commission (EHRC) is taking forward work on developing the Code of Practice in partnership with the Department for Communities and local Government (DCLG). The Home Office and the Department for Children, Schools and Families (DCSF) are also participating. The Code is expected in early 2010.

iii) the increased discrimination being experienced by turban wearing Sikhs at various airports in Europe

MPs were informed a Sikh lobby was planned at the European Parliament for March 2010 and urged to write to the Europe Minister to arrange with UK MEPs to host the lobby and raise awareness on Sikh articles of faith throughout Europe where Sikhs are being discriminated.

iv) the death penalty case of Professor Davinderpal Singh Bhullar

MPs were requested to provide copies of their correspondence with : i) the German Embassy in the UK; ii) the Foreign and Commonwealth Office; iii) the European Parliament President; and iv) the EC Commissioner for External Relations.

v) the need for the UK Government to stop providing visas to those involved in the Genocide of Sikhs in November 1984

Following the successful campaign to have Jagdish Tytler dropped from the delegation to visit the UK a note was provided to MPs supplying details of a number of leading Indian politicians and police officers implicated in the November 1984 anti-Sikh pogroms. MPs were urged to request the UK Government and other EU member states to exclude entry to these individuals.