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It may be a one off for medical reasons, or that he has a mental condition and that the picture was staged to discredit Sikhs.

Smoking in any shape or form is strictly banned in Sikhism. Nihang Singhs call it Gadha Sungna (sucking a donkeys back side)

Not "sucking", inhaling/smelling.

Sungna means to inhale/smell, not sucking/ingesting.

WJKK WJKF

recently my family has been behind me - to tie my beard

but recently a good singh went to hazur sahib and the 2nd acting jathedar ji (NOT kulwant singh ji ) had a talk with me on call

and he explained that you can tie beard on work where you require sometimes

but i explained him with these 2 tuks

sabat surat sidha dara kat ka kanga keshi chada

sabat surat dastar sira

2nd jathedars reply :- we shouldnt be so katar

not sure what to think of this but never going to tie my beard.

Man, sometimes you seem so 'hardcore' on this website, but you're having doubts about this?

Get a grip of yourself, hold yourself together, you're a softwarer engineer, no need to tie!!!

Good message to revisit and adapt virtues above. No worries i am guilty like everyone else. Vahiguroo kirpa bakshan, keep allowing all of us to improve.

You are most guilty bro, you need some serious help.....a lot of times you seem to be no different than RSS/Indian Anti-Sikh Agents.

I'm pretty sure you got the original post information from listening to Baba Hari Singh Randhava's Suraj Prakash Katha...please implement the teachings into your life and not let it go through one ear and out the other.

I have recently heard from a very trustworthy/knowledgeable source that in Australia, the 'price' for an Akhand Paath at one Gurdwara is $8,000 and at another is $4,000......

Can someone verify this?

Like how ridiculous!!!

Another one...

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/74502-buzarg-dastar-wala-sikh-smoking-disgusting-but-such-a-petty-at-his-condition/

This is not surprising, I have seen many people with Dastars/turbans and large flowing black/grey/white beards drinking alcohol, using profanity/swearing, being hardcore kaami, etc.

Before when I used to see an old person with Dastar and large flowing beard, I used to have utmost respect for the person thinking that they are probably way more Chardikala than me.

But from what I've personally experienced and what I've been able to see online through social media, having a turban and big beard doesn't make someone special.

Karmee Karmee Hoi Veechaar.....

Can you tell us who opposed them?

Neo is the one who said it, not me, ask him.

A tale of two hijackers – One gets Congress ticket for fourth time and other is India’s most wanted.

Jalandhar, Punjab: The candidature of a former hijacker Bhola Pandey from Salempur constituency of UP by Congress for the fourth time in a row has given handle to Sikh group Dal Khalsa to draw comparison between the treatment meted out to him and Dal Khalsa leader Gajinder Singh, who hijacked an Indian Airline plane and who is on India’s most wanted list. Recently a compilation of Gajinder Singh’s poems was released in Amritsar by Dal Khalsa.

“The diametrically opposite approach adapted by the government and Congress in both the cases reveals double standards and discriminative approach which further resulted in deepening the alienation of struggling peoples from the Indian mainstream,” said Dal Khalsa spokesperson Kanwarpal Singh.

“Congress rewarded Pandey for hijacking the Indian plane to seek the release of late Indira Gandhi during Janta regime and the case against him was also dropped but our leader Gajinder Singh has been declared a “hardcore terrorist” for hijacking the Indian plane to seek the release of Sant Jarnail Singh Bhindrawale in 1981,” he said.

Bhola Pandey and his friend Devandar Nath Pandey hijacked IA flight no IC 410 on 20 Dec 1978 and were released shortly. Since then Pandey was being awarded with Congress tickets first for assembly and then for Lok Sabha. Around three years later Gajinder Singh along with four Dal Khalsa activists hijacked IA flight from Delhi to Srinagar on 29 September 1981 and landed in Lahore where they were caught in commando action by Pakistani forces.

But since 1978 Pandey is enjoying the state’s privilege while Gajinder Singh served 14 years detention and is living in exile facing hardships since his release in November 1994.

He said both the cases had striking similarities as in both the cases hijackers did not posses weapons, they did not harm any passengers and the hijacking act was to register the protest and seek the release of their respective leaders. “The only difference was that Pandey did it for the sake of Congress leader where as Gajinder Singh did for Sikh leader. Pandey was loyal to Gandhi family while Gajinder Singh’s loyalty was towards Sikhs and Bhindranwale. And this difference turned out to be a big difference,” he said.

“Pandey was perceived and projected as “hero” and on the other hand Gajinder Singh was declared most wanted “terrorist” by successive Indian governments. Even today his name figures in the list of most wanted persons. “”This is the classic example that proves beyond doubt that India is not a secular country, “” claimed the Dal Khalsa leader. This discriminative approach of Congress leadership also proved that the country is not governed as per rule of law but by law of rulers.

Congress government was still seeking his extradition despite the fact that he had served 14 years behind the bars for hijacking while Pandey was being allotted ticket in every election.

Source: TOI

http://sikhsangat.org/2014/a-tale-of-two-hijackers-one-gets-congress-ticket-for-fourth-time-and-other-is-indias-most-wanted/

http://www.cafepress.com.au/+sikhs+underwear-panties

Western world has lost the plot

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL, that's toooo jokesss!!! (And messed up of course, but that made me laugh man, like how ridiculous, it's so ridiculous that it's funny, who comes up with these things, and your comment is funny too!!!)

Lol, you guys are making things so complicated, even wikipedia clears this whole thing up in 1 second:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegetarianism

Who is BarinderSingh:

'OnlyFive' or 'NeoSingh'?

This should be cleared up....

VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

45 minute onward. Provides an interesting perspective. Not a fan of how the debate played out (not so civil), but the needed information is there.

Veer Jee,

in these types of debates/discussions/arguments, there is bound to be some tension to say the least, it's reasonable. :smile2:

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Your post does not make sense, I mentioned I don't want know details who oppose baba Manochal and baba thakur singh ji advise and wanted all too move Fwd with analysis without names .. But you have issue with that? So you rather have me find out who opposed the advise of Baba Manochal and baba thakur singh and do what with it exactly? How's that going Fwd?

Chalo, let's move forward :laugh2:

Chalo whatever happen happened, we should set up truth commission/oversight committe to list all failures including the above, downfalls and full analysis without naming or undermining anyone effort so mistakes don't happen again. I don't care who/which party screwed up, i m more concerned about we learn from our failures, and does not happen again for future generations as future generations aren't any better, they seem to be falling into same pitfalls (failing to see full picture) that some of our predecessors/groups did..!!

Neo Jee,

it is very interesting that when it comes to showing positives of freedom fighters such as Baba Gurbachan Singh Jee Manochahal, you don't want to name any names, and when it comes to showing their negatives then you throw in any name of individual or group that you hate/dislike

I am sure he is in its own right. I am sure he is in sachkhand too but gurbani mahavaks stands too, we are all under mistakes while we are living:

bhullan andar sab ko, abhul guru kartar ||

Sat-Bachan Jee, as long as we apply this principle to everyone (no ifs ands or buts).

Not really, i see placing flag representing constitution of the country which is for most part enforced/followed in UK.

The constitution of the country is only one aspect of a country. A flag represents everything about the country, not just the constitution.

The constitution is all just talk/writing, what really matters is the actions.

Look at Indian Authorities and Agencies and Police and Politicians and people with money/power....how much of the constitution do they follow? Not very much.

Not sure how i feel about someone living in current country as canadian citizen- enjoying full generous system of that country for 40 some years ending up having different country flag (which is just concept for now) on his body? he could have both that would have been understandable.., on top of that- supporting air india bomber- , inderjit singh rehat who lied 21 times (admitted to prejury which gursikh lies?) who has admitted to make a bomb (no one gives a bomb to someone knowning full purpose), which killed 330 canadians, including 92 sikhs..!!

Unbelievable. Hopefully bhai balpreet singh WSO have a nice pr statement to explain this logic to media if quizzed.

Lollll, Prof. Uday Singh Jee is a GEM/JEWEL of Sikh Panth.

Not really, sant karam singh hoti, sant jvala singh ji sant attar singh reru sahib and other puratan sants including recent sakhi of bhai randhir singh ji on this mahapursh by bhai kulbir singh all served in british army yet were khalsa bhramgyanis. They all quit british army when in their current time british gov't start killing sikhs.

Serving in army and earning a living is different than placing flag representing overall corruption of the country on the body.

When one is in the army, one is in control of their actions and therefore are representing themselves and their own personal intentions first and foremost.

Sikh can already live like a true Sikh in england, you are copping out blaming country for your own spiritual hindrances which is created by you no else. Ever heard of sant mani singh ji uk? He was proud british(had british flag on his body) and bhramgyani khalsa mahapursh born and bred in UK...you are making it sound like true sikh can never be british, canadian, american( upholding current country constitution) is mutually exclusive?

The amount of injustices Britain/UK has done perhaps no other country has. Even the current constitution does not filter out the corruption of the governments and politicians and their roles in corruption, 1984 being one example. True Sikh never aligns themselves with a country like that. Maybe during their life due to career/social reasons, but never have flag draped on funeral body.

Bhai Mani Singh UK is the only example you have.

Here is an example of a real Dhan Guru Piarey GurSikh:

Bhai Vir Singh Jee gave 2100 rupees in 1934 for the construction of Hemkunt Sahib Gurdwara. If you bought land worth 2100 rupees in 1934, it would be worth more than 5 Crore today (50 million rupees).

At least he put his money where his heart is.

The guy in the video is typical hardcore-missionary propaganda trying to discredit/attack well-known and well-accepted Sikh scholars/historians/researchers. The guy is acting like Bhai Vir Singh Jee is part of RSS or something.

Behind the scenes Snatanists are smiling and happy, because they are the opposite side of the same coin, where they falsely accuse Bhai Vir Singh Jee of so many things (eg. destroying/editing Giani Gian Singh Jee's writings).

Neo Jee,

how can you say they know our traditions, didn't you read about UK getting exposed for role in 1984 time period?

They knew about our traditions 150+ years ago and still show utmost disrespect and want to destroy Sikhs/Sikhi. And how about France, how accomodating are they?

And it's not only Sikhs outside of India who want Khalistan, there Sikhs are all around the world (including India) who want it.

It's easy to talk in the comfort that you're sitting in. Go to India and see the reality. And if you think it's a waste of your time, then at least look at videos, pictures and news of disgusting anti-Sikh acts carried out everyday.

And while I'm typing this you posted what I knew you were going to say:

Another question, assume khalistan is made by singhs in india.. Realistically, Would most sikhs abroad move forever?

Are all Arabs in Palestine?

Are all Jews in Israel?

Are all Buddhists in Tibet?

Are all Hindus in India?

Are all Catholics living near the Vatican?

90% Sikh Heritage Sites Are In Pakistan (and are being lost more and more everyday):

http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-2-221995-90pc-Sikh-heritage-sites-are-in-Pakistan

Guru Sahib travelled the world, so there are many historical sites all around the world.

But at least Sikhs should get the areas which were taken from them by the interference of British, Hindus and Muslims.

One can`t even go to Nankana Sahib without worrying about some Islamic militant trying to blow their heads off.

Watch the following video in this topic, you will see the reality:

http://www.sikhsangat.com/index.php?/topic/73889-simranjit-singh-mann-talking-to-talking-punjab-tv/?hl=%2Bsimranjit+%2Bsingh+%2Bmann

That's debatable, look at Buddhism they don't have country look how well they have flourished both in East and West.

Buddhism has not flourished. It is actually declining when we talk about REAL Buddhism (including Buddhist way of life), the same way real hardcore Rehitvaan/Abhiaasi/Sarblohi Nihang Singhs are declining.

It is all just hippy-type trends. Similar to 3HO yoga, etc.

It is just some 'Buddha' 'quotes' that are floating around on the internet on twitter/instagram/facebook...but that's about it.

Buddhist souch and mat has not flourished. What you're referring to is pop culture where people say they're something to look cool.

Exactly

Not you at all :biggrin2:

Achaa Jee! :laugh2: