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wikipedia lol, although I believe its from the 2011 census.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

British indian: 1.45 million

British Pakistani: 1.17 million

interestingly, other asian (dont know what this means) is numbered at: 860,000 ???

Why do the demographics of the UK show that there are more indians than pakistanis?

I always thought there were more pakistanis, as nearly every town and city in the uk has a pakistani population... any explanations? 

23 hours ago, kcmidlands said:

"You hate the sin not the sinner" is a old moto i live by, if someone has done wrong, take time out to try and understand why, it's difficult at time, especially if someone has done you wrong, in this situation we are quick to judge the mother of these boy's but we don't ever look at those who groomed her and how they preyed on her which, in the end, turned her into what she became and left her children abandoned.

I'm a father with daughter's, i worry all the time over thing's like this, heck, something like this happened last year where i live but the local community Sikh's decided to take the law into their own hand's and handle the situation but that was an extreme situation where law enforcement wouldn't do anything because they were afraid of "community tensions".

They are picking them up, but in a lot of case's it's not practical, you can barely scrape by on one wage in this day and age so people have to work, I don't know if your a parent or not but i'll assume your not (please correct me if i'm wrong) but until you have kid's you can read all the book's or articles you want, nothing prepare's you, my eldest girl is hitting teenage years and i worry all the time but i have to rely on making sure she has the right circle of friends, making sure she doesn't have a sheep mentality, putting here in a well regarded school that nurture's her and educates her, she is rebellious but i've not met a single teenager who isn't.

I don't think Muslim parent's are "benefit spongers", i think they face the same difficulties as the rest of us, the only difference is that they have a solid community based around their faith(which to them is everything) and the Sikh community unfortunately don't, our community is fractured, when i grew up in the 80's if some uncle or auntie saw me in town with my mates you knew your mum and dad would find out from them and you'd get a surprise when you got home, nowadays people don't care, they are too self obsessed, next time you see something that you might think is wrong, take 2 minutes out and observe, ask if everything;s okay, the worst that can happen is that you'll be told to bugger off.

arent the smethwick community tightknit 

4 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

It should be like this

you <banned word filter activated> if you do that theyll run away from home. 

4 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

What did I say that sounded like I was Joking around? 

 

 

your an a****** its people like you in the west london community who didnt help this lady for so many years... you got some nerve. Where was the gudwara committee for this lady? They dont mind taking ££££ for anand karajs tho. They could have prevented this 20 years ago if real singhs knew about this... 

I hope that chippy still isnt open? Whats it called? 

This sukhvirk geeza was trolling basics of sikhi a while ago. I think he deleted his facebook account. Hes a sad person he looks like an evil scientist proffesor in his pictures ??? he also looks like a tamil tiger i think he may be hindu punjabi.

10 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

+1, but At the end of the day it doesn't matter if most individual Kashmiris are peaceful, (most humans are relatively peaceful), but from the ones fighting for independence for Kashmir most of them are Islamic Fundamentalists, especially if you include those fighting for independence from Pakistan, (because it is a 2-sided-war for 1 Kashmir). Jinnah wasn't looking for Sharia either, but look at how Pakistan turned out, and the direction Turkey is going, (which used to be the secular Muslim country which wasn't too fundamentalist).

What about a free kashmir without sharia? Isnt this what kashmiris really want or is it just join with pakistan? problem is, who will govern this free kashmir? Cant these radicals be re-integrated back into their sufi ancestral ways?

Why does no one raise this issue? Are parents really happy that their kids do this? Why dont they stop them? What happened to arrange marriages? 

10 minutes ago, CEO said:

Damn Pakistani people can't get enough. They ruined their country, now trying to ruin another region. If only we were able to demolish these people. 

its not always the people, its mostly the gov and armies and their egos. Lets not forget India are no saints themselves. 

16 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Daas expects that an independent Kashmir would most likely turn into Sharia, (Jinnah was a very liberal Muslim, ate pork and had a few drinks, but look at Pakistan today). Also lets not forget how Kashmiris were heavily brought into Islam, it was heavy force, so much so that they went to the House of Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Nanak Dev Ji, and asked the one who refused to take a Janeu, to protect their Janeu. Aurangzeb did a lot to expand his faith in that area, and if it wasn't for Sikhs Kashmir would not only be majority Muslim, but 100% Muslim.

paaji you have a point there. Lets not forget hindu hill rajas exist today because of us and the reason kashmiri isnt 100 percent muslim is because the hill rajas boot licking the british and backstabbing us. Kashmiris are certainlly converts if you look at their faces they look the same as the hindu rajas of jammu and border areas, it just everyone has an assumption all hindus look dark like the rest of india but this isnt true. 

41 minutes ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Why do some Sikhs expect helping the Muslims would benefit us in anyway? All we have to do is a see a BasicsOfSikhi video featuring a person Muslim debate to see that they really won't be friendly. What will they, (Muslims), do to Sikhs when they get yet another country for themselves? (Our people bow way too much to Muslims these days, just look at that Sunny Hundal).

kashmiris were orginally sufi until pak made them extreme, sufis were the ones on our side in history, hopefully they come back to sufism as they just want freedom like us. 

9 hours ago, Preeet said:

Was your husband amritdhari, Kaur ji??

 

Hmm, but it is hard to recognize who is Sikh in a mona roop. I know some people who are born in Sikh families, and the most they do is matha tek and wear a kara, but I assume if a white (haircut) person wore a kara but wasn't from a Sikh family wouldn't be recognized as a 'Sikh' and would be denied anand karaj sahib ji.. I mean look at this, there are so many mona sikhs who don't practice any Sikhi, but instead they indirectly badnam Sikhs by calling themselves Sikhs even while drinking/doing drugs and more. +++ I don't see any reason good enough for not accepting amrit sahib ji if the individual is a firm believer who lives by gurmat. Seriously, why would they say no to our rare amrit sahib ji if they are firm believers, they would recognize the value, and of course would believe that our sri guru sahib ji themselves blessed us with amrit sahib ji.

bro they will but theyre not fully ready to take amrit whilst still doing things like drinking etc. Remember mona and singhs went together to the protest so I still think they should be allowed anand karaj, just test them before and make them sign a document. This will cut out the mata teek and kara people. Ideally everyone would be amrtidhari including me but sadly we are not.. I agree with you though it should be the goal of every sikh to one day take amrit, this should be taught from a young age but when you have families who tell their kids dont become an amritdhari what hope do we have? 

non amritdharis still follow sikhi they just arent fully commited but they do believe in the guruji. I think the only problem is punjabi athiests not mona singhs, but the question should always be asked 'do you believe in sikhism' before any marriage. 

we sikhs need to be careful a lot of kashmiris in uk some might retaliate against us for any attack, the ones who put sikh and hindus together. 

53 minutes ago, StarStriker said:

The presenter was a kurri called sonali shah, pretty sure shes a hindu. Gurmel singh frm sikh council was on, n he did well. The presenter blatantly was biased in her thinking, n didnt show any neutral p.o.v. One guy rang up, who was supposedly there, and a relative of the bride, talked so much crap and misinformation on sikh history it was embarassing. He must of been 1 in a long line of panjabi hindus ringing up pretending to be sikh. He said things like, none of the gurus had anand karajs, sayin how sikhs have always married muslims n hindu in history and the protestors r like muslim wing isis of modern days sikhi........massive facepalm!

So much bollox said by him n others i wudnt know where to start correcting the k@njar budda. About 3 callers compared the protestors to isis.....yea coz every1 knows, once the protest was over, the singhs beheaded the giani n filmed it, took all the women frm sangat as sex slaves n forcefully converted the goreh wedding guests.....wat bandhar ppl we have in r community.

sonali was getting funny, guy from sikh council uk smashed it!

42 minutes ago, nahid said:

vat is the praablem yaar?

O look its pp02 and all the other names hes signed up with.

No problem yaaaar (although punjabis dont use that crappy language) we respect other faiths, we help poor muslim in muslim countries and everything believe it or not, but we stand up to the haters whoever they may be... and btw we also love the muslim girls  

I know of some young pakistani girls who have run away with kaleh and goreh,, they just hide this.

Been a while just thought id get your opinions on whats happening there and should we support it? Is the stone pelting right? If they somehow do get freedom what about khalistan? 

Nothing will happen until the committee is replaced with GurSikhs;(who should then give the power to the Punj Pyare), instead of greedy businessmen. This is a Gurdwara known for not following even the most basic of Gurmat; what makes you think they are going to let someone else who they hired to finish the Sikhi of people to do?

people who run the gudwara arent amritdhari, I know as its one of my relatives :/

a lot of guys are scared of the girls brothers. Wish our lot could do that but they dont care who theyre sister/daughter gets up to with.

https://m.facebook.com/SikhYouthBirmingham/photos/a.915457431815754.1073741830.914482778579886/1314558048572355/?type=3

makes sense now.. apologises as I was a bit skeptical at first as never thought it would happen.

Well cant believe its come to this.. one of my distance relatives is a member on the board of a gudwara in leamington, absolutely disgusted. Memba my mum asking him about the langar hall and meat, think he made up some excuse, it was years ago. I woulda thought with such a large sikh community in leamington they would be more into sikhi than interfaith weddings!

any proof hes pakistani? Loads of punjabi guys also have that dari and hairstyle and get mistaken for pakistanis too.

No, for the simple reason that apnaay are idiots.

Think back to partition in 1947. Lobbying for Pakistan on behalf of the Muslims was Muhammad Ali Jinnah, a University of London educated Lawyer. Representing the Hindus was the Cambridge graduate and barrister Jawaharlal Nehru. And who did we Sikhs have representing us? Some semi-literate Baba educated no further than his Oora Airaas behind the village cowshed - the sort of person we continue to elect to this day, fools that we are. Is it any wonder that the British administrators who were dissecting the subcontinent took one look at us, decided we were not serious contenders for a nation of our own, and threw us out of the equation altogether? Or that the Hindus continue to assume, correctly I think, that we are all brawn and no brains?

The strength of our Sikhi is important, but believing that this alone is necessary to create Khalistan is naive. The Sikhs of the 1940s weren't lacking in Sikhi, but this wasn't enough to stop them from being screwed over was it? The most important thing we can do for Khalistan is to educate ourselves and our children in as many disciplines of the world as we can, so that we can raise up some credible representatives for the Sikh cause to replace the simple-minded old men who currently occupy every position in the Sikh world.

Behind every modern people's revolution, the French, the Russian, the American, were intellectuals and men/women of great learning.

problem you got is the younger generation are educated here but they end up being athiest.

turks are usually very athiest, the ones in London anyway.