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I dont know about this guy, but when I used to go clubing (sigh) I once saw an apna wearing a pagg kissing a guy... this was in a straight central London club. At the time I never said anything but after I really wished I did but then again I shouldnt judge?

I have also seen a hijabi come out of a pub with a sleevless top, you just cant make it up...

Nothing seems to amaze me these days.

That maybe true for kashmir, but not for a sikh state. They know, when khalistan will be made, khalistan, pakistan and china will be 3 nations all hostile towards india.

Tbh also, u cannot invade other countries nowadays, unlike in 1800s etc. There wud b worldwide condemnation. Unless u r the americans of course, who make numerous excuses to invade lands for their natural resources.

trust me if you go to pak punjab they love sikhs, theyl hug a sardar if they see one, im not joking... but its the ones here who obviously people base their opinions of pak on. Pak do support khalistan, i think its mainly to do with a dislike to hindus and india but they still respect sikhs.

Plus the majority of them know sikhs are different they can tell whos hindu and whos sikh, or so they say. TBH we do look different to other indians and this cant be denied. So overall they do see us as a seperate people, something india doesnt recognise.

veerji you can buy an aux cable but you'll have to fit it in your car. Another option is a wireless Bluetooth but might be costly. Lastly theres an fm transmitter, might be crap quality so go for a good one like belkin ( check reviews).

Would go for the last one for convenience but AUX would be better long term.

Soundcloud is free and has BOS on there. Dont pay on itunes, no one does and you would be wasting money. You should be able to download or youtube convert for free. You need to do bit more research :P

Waheguru.

I don't control the comments of any manmukhs.

im not blaming you, its just ironic they will use anyway to get at sikhi just because we are against interfaith marriage - its because we ' are not following the scriptures' amritdharis are liars, cheaters, racists = thats what shes trying to say.

first comment on that fb post a women complaining I believe cos of mixed faith marriages.

i may check them out.

Ive actually been in these areas ie near Jammu and Kashmir before and it the views were amazing of the mountins and lakes not sure if I will have time to go there though as its quite far from dehli and indias trains are not particularly quick .

they say its heaven on earth. I would suggest get a driver as roads can be dangerous or get a 4x4 drive yourself. Also, contrary to a lot of people I would say visit the historical places in Pakistan and also see other areas and judge for yourself how you get treated.

go to himachal pradesh and maybe kashmir if its safe, wont regret it.

troll alert.

Not true many Indian bowlers tried to bowl fast but ended up bowling medium. There was shocking statement from 2000s best indian fast bowler

another hater on this thread lol sikhs are strong, its in history its in our blood weve proven it. North indians are very strong people and very different to others. Go to himachal pradesh and other areas you can see theyre quite stocky with narrow features, not that it has anything to do with being athletic but I know for sure in punjab sikh men train, and espc on a veggie diet didnt stop us ruling half of south asia. Also real north indians dont back down hence we eventually stopped people looting our lands until the cunning british came with better weapons, but cant say they done all bad to be honest. From Marathis and even rajas from the hill areas north of punjab have stopped countless invasions and persevered their territories, something a lot of pakistanis and others dont know, or dont want to hear. A lot of pakistani rajeh are converts from hinduism due to eventually giving in to invaders after centuries of stopping them. But cant blame them if they didnt want to follow hinduism and idol worship, each to there own. peace.

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what exactly how to be foulmouthed trash talker ....?

how many sikh girls marry muslims? I know a handful, stop trying to bs.

Like has been said a hundred times now. Juts need to sweep up under their own filthy mattress before any have the audacity to jump on any other people's minor bull5hit.

The kind of stuff we see in the OP is hardly some impending issue that threatens the panth. There are PLENTY of greedy, crooked juts out there doing scams and selling drugs and whatnot.

Instead of seeing the OP for what it is, it's used (yet again) but certain backwards juts to try and point fingers like this will distract us from kartootaan going on in their own community.

Just so you know, that trick is played out. People aren't buying it any more. The only people your fooling with that ploy is your own easily brain-washable types.

the panth is one, shouldnt matter what background people are from we should condem everyone and not point the finger.

Lailpur and Sargodha were canal colonies created by the British for Sikh soldiers. The original inhabitants were called Jaangli by the Sikh settlers. Sikhs had made this land into the most productive land in all of India. Sikhs here owned hundreds of acres of land per family. Sikh soldoers from all over Punjab were given land there.

The above info is based on what I have been told by my elders from Nanke side were are from Amritsar originally then got land in Lailpur and after partition moved back to Amritsar.

But besides the canal colonies there was already a large Sikh population of Sikhs in west Punjab. Lahoris, Sialkotis, Gujranwalias etc

Lailpur and Sargodha were canal colonies created by the British for Sikh soldiers. The original inhabitants were called Jaangli by the Sikh settlers. Sikhs had made this land into the most productive land in all of India. Sikhs here owned hundreds of acres of land per family. Sikh soldoers from all over Punjab were given land there.

The above info is based on what I have been told by my elders from Nanke side were are from Amritsar originally then got land in Lailpur and after partition moved back to Amritsar.

But besides the canal colonies there was already a large Sikh population of Sikhs in west Punjab. Lahoris, Sialkotis, Gujranwalias etc

the original inhabitants were muslim? Also by junglee u mean hillbillies?

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/Bedfordshire-policeman-jailed-months-making/story-28462413-detail/story.html

Bedfordshire policeman jailed for eight months for making indecent images of children

By Bedfordshire On Sunday | Posted: January 04, 2016

PC Paul Henry was jailed for eight months at Lincoln Crown Court today

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A BEDFORDSHIRE Police officer has been jailed after admitting nine charges relating to indecent images.

PC Paul Henry, 42, from Donington, Lincolnshire, appeared at Lincoln Crown Court today.

He was jailed for eight months and made subject of a Sexual Offences Prevention Order, after admitting eight charges of making an indecent image of a child and a further charge of possession of extreme pornography.

The offences took place between January 1, 2012 and April 30, 2015.

PC Henry remains suspended from duty and misconduct proceedings will continue.

Deputy Chief Constable Mike Colbourne said: "Online abuse is not a victimless crime and we will not tolerate anyone involved in such criminality."

karab bundeh.. need some honest good public service personel.

So I was talking to my family and I was always under the impression that they orignated from west punjab prior to 47, they were in areas such as lyalpur (now called fasialbad), montgomery (sahiwal), multan etc

But now I have been told that we originate from where we live now which is adampur and kurdhpur next to jahalandhar and that we used to migrate to different areas of punjab where there was nothing and build up the land to make it agricultural

I was just wondering did many sikhs do this? Or did most originate from where they came from before partition? My clan are aujla. Even though I dont believe in caste stuff, its just relevant to find out more about clans who used to do this and their history.

WJKK WJKF

So JagsawSingh, Is painting a picture of all Afghan Sikhs to be criminals and money grabbers. How ironic is this? Afghan or Khatri Sikhs are actually very educated and hardworking. They own alot of shops selling indian clothing ect and are an extremely successful business people. So a group of criminals who happen to be from this community are jailed. that does not mean for one second that everyone is lIke this from this community is the same.

Is jagsaw forgetting his own kind are known to peddle drugs in canada. Yes people who destroy the communities they live in by dealing drugs which creates even more crime. Yes were people feed on the vulnerable drug users by pumping and dealing drugs. Is this doing anything for Sikhism?? Are these afghan Sikhs?

But Jagsaw likes to live in a bubble that he has created where his kind's shi1t smells of levander and they can do no wrong. he needs to wake up pronto!

as a so called 'jatt' il agree the sikhs up in bc are messed up, even though I hardly have family there. Most my relatives live in brampton sides there chill, much more educated and hard working. There all from doabi region e.g jahalandhar and hoshiarphur as far as I know.

Do you know what an Hazara even looks like Dallysingh ?

They have chinese style eyes.

No Star Striker. The Afghan Sikhs are 100% Arora. No other Sikh group exists among them. Its an interesting facet of Sikh history actually because historically, in terms of business, the areas of the Sikh empire were divided up by the Khatris and the Aroras. Because the Aroras were considered 'lesser' khatris, the Khatris themselves had the whole of Punjab proper and potowar, Kashmir etc and gave the whole of the extreme north west of Punjab and the North West Frontier region (Pathan territory) for the Aroras. Thus, the Khatris had a business manopoly of Punjab proper and the the Aroras had a complete monopoly of the whole of the north west. Interestingly though, if one goes even further north west and by-passes the Arora areas and ventures into Iran, we find that it is the Khatris that had (and still have) the business monopoly in Iranian cities such as Zahedan and Tehran and no aroras exist there at all. But, for the purposes of this discussion, we must remember that virtually all of the Afghan Sikhs are Aroras. All of them.

The fact that you posted that link, jacfsing2, shows that you completely misunderstand Sikh history in those parts. You've posted a picture of Peshwari Sikhs in Pakistan without understanding that there is a very vast difference between the Afghan Sikhs and the Pakistani Sikhs of the north west frontier. The oonly real common denominator is the closeness and family ties between the arora sikhs of the cities of Jalalabad in Afghanistan and Peshawar in Pakistan. Both these comminuties, united by blood and marriage, are 100% pure arora, with no pathan blood in them. At the other end of the scale, we must remember that most of the Sikhs in Afghanistan are from the city of Kabul and that city (Kabul) is and always has been a distinctly Tajik and Uzbek city, so the local culture of the Sikhs is not pathan culture at all, as pathan influence in that city has always been minimal.

Now, lets cross back across the Khyber Pass into Pakistan and we then have to consider a totaly unique Arora Sikh community that exists deep inside the rural tribal mountain areas well away from the towns and cities. Amongst those arora Sikhs there is indeed some very heavy mixing with pathan blood and that can be clearly seen in their features and skin colour. These arora sikhs actually live and die by pathan culture and their surnames are also names that proclaim their ties to the local clans, such as Afridi. To understand this phenonema we have to first understand the murder madness of partition 1947. The arora sikh small time traders were already living amongst those pathan clans and as the pathans live and die by their official 'code of honour' called the 'Pakhtoonwali', that code of honour dictated that they MUST, absolutely MUST, treat those fellow tribal area dwellers as their 'Hamsaya', or guest. The Pakhtoonwali code of honour dictates that they have absolutely no choice but to protect the life and homes of those Sikhs. Each individual pathan clan in each individual pathan tribal area did exactly that and thats why none of those sikhs moved to India at partition.

Very good poing Balkar. Many of the arora Afghan Sikhs we see in Southall and Hounslow are indeed very very fair but, as you qute rightly say, they are also very short and stocky and that kind of body size and shape is virtually non-existent amongst the pathans.

Why are you even saying that buddasingh ? Do not be afraid of knowledge. There are, at this moment, a large proportion of the Muslim community who not only refuse to acknowedge that crimnal elements exists amongst them that have religious attire but also, as you have done, try and stamp on and shut up anyone that mentions it. Don't be so afraid of knowledge. It is only by acknowledging our shortcomings that we will be able to overcome them. We can't let things carry on as they are.

But, I'm extremely surprised you didn't understand anything I wrote and came to the conclusion that I'd "generally described the modus operandi of a wide array of the Punjabi doaspora"

How on earth can you come to that conclusion ? I mean how many other Sikhs groups do you know who marry their chacha's daughter ? Pooah's son.......Thaya's children ?

How many other Sikhs groups do you know who have a 'Sikh' culture whereby religion is only for the males and their wives MUST...as a RULE....have mega make-up, cut hair, blonde dyed hair, tatoos and dressed like a high class hooker ? (now you may think I'm joking here but ask any other west London Sikh. They'll tell you how every last one of these afghan sikhs has a dastar and yet every last one of them has a wife who is dressed and made up like a tart........This is because, in their extremely strange version of Sikhi, a woman has no business being a Sikh, i.e it is only for males, and she must, as per Muslim culture, make and keep herself 'sexy' to please her man)

learnt alot there bro thanks. Im just suprised that not more people took up the path of sikhi with guru nanak dev jis travels. There must be some sikhs hidden in remote areas in arabia somewhere or even near italy as I believe guruji visited rome, I wonder...

they look like afghani sikhs some of them, most are hardworking lets not take any notice of these idiots. I expected it to be all freshies from southall broadway but turns out only 2 were from there.

Tyrion is just a desperado rss cyber warrior. His job is to misinform across various sites and threads.

Indian "Hasbara"...joker.

Its actually quite entertaining to watch the lightweight attempt to convince Sikhs that we have imagined history and only he actually KNOWS our history.

Wow Tyrion what would we do without you? Hahaha

khalistan zindabad

I dont give Fukk about RSS but I dont believe in your conspiracy theory

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/death-toll-indian-base-attack-rises-troops-gunmen-36063531

The number of troops killed in the attack rose to seven on Sunday, with four succumbing to their injuries overnight and an elite commando killed in a morning

blast that occurred while he was handling explosives, officials said.

At least seven troops and four gunmen have been killed in the fighting so far.

badal is anti sikh.

tyion to bort bakwaas karda ya, why do u keep spouting these stories of jhadists on sikhs, as if hindus are the golden boys

You do not believe their own newspapers? Or the newspapers of minorities in Pakistan?

Sikhs have been killed in KPK. They are not exactly fine there.

Sikhs have separate glasses and utensils be it at schools or colleges.

Pakistani Muslims are bound to tell different stories so to tap into rivalry and anger against India. And if you are talking about Kashmir then ones from there are even more likely to paint different picture since anti India sentiment is highest there for obvious reasons.

Look at these reports:

Killings of Sikhs in Pakistan forcing them to flee homes http://thediplomat.com/2014/09/the-killing-of-the-sikhs/

Pakistan Sikhs live under constant threat http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKCN0HS0U220141003

Pakistan Sikhs in dark ages of persecution http://www.ipsnews.net/2014/11/pakistani-sikhs-back-in-the-dark-ages-of-religious-persecution/

The Sikhs of Nankana Sahib: Life under shadow of towering hate http://www.dawn.com/news/1025160/day-3-the-sikhs-of-nankana-sahab

Don't go by just what a Paki or Kashmiri tells you.

I know people who have gone there for yatra and even they confirm how hatred and hostility are evident against Sikhs in Pakistan and recollect ill treatment and being treated like outcastes even at dhabas.

Read firsthand accounts from Pakistani newapapers yourself to know how "well" Sikhs are treated there. They have no political representation. They have been requesting for atleast one holiday on Gurpurab and recognition of one religious festival (Gurpurab) but even that has not been granted there.

I am not proud of India or something but Sikhs have it far better in India, compared to Islamic countries like Pakistan!

It is outlandish to assume Pakistan is better or even any good for Sikhs.

what about pilgrimes who go there? Ive heard all good stories from them. I hear what your saying about news but like people say you cant believe evrything u hear in the news nowadays.

rode lol didnt we have a rode on here before?

While I agree with you on India, I disagree on Pakistan.

Just read reports on Pakistan newspapers like Dawn and Express Tribune.

Sikhs are treated like second class citizens there. The Sikh empire heritage is also either destroyed or rotting and is in dire need of preservation. Sikhs have no political representation there either.

Forced conversions and kidnapping of Sikh girls is reported. Last year Sikh men were also beheaded by Muslim extremists.

Pakistanis seem to support Sikhs online because they are India's rivals and they are still pissed about India breaking Pakistan and helping create Bangladesh.

Pakistanis are not reliable. Their Govt gave details of Sikh freedom fighters to Rajiv Gandhi.

Nobody can ever count on a Paki.

hmm ive been told differently. Some paks even say nankana sahib belongs to khalistan etc and they would give it away, dont know how true this would be if it came to it, but ive heard it said from a lot of punjab paks. They even say come to pakistan and we'll show you how well you get treated there... So not really sure whether to believe the newspapers. After all, a lot of afghan sikhs have settlled in kpk area of pakistan and are quite happy there. In regards to bhutto giving away details yes I believe a lot of paks were against this and didnt like her, hence her assassination.

TBF a lot of paks in the uk dont come from punjab they come form kashmir, and people assume all paks are like the ones which are in the UK. Which i disagree on cos people from lahore got a lot more respect for us, the ones who talk same language and share same surnames etc etc.

punjab never was part of india. Punjab has always been a different civilization. Why do bengalis get their own country? Get to excel in their language religion etc? Sikhs wouldnt mind being part of india if you guys actually treated us as we should be treated, not to brainwash the mass into fighting their own e.g sikhs in the indian army 1984. Whats so wrong with sikhs having khalistan? Do we not deserve it after what we have done to save hindu women for centuries? Why not let sikhs practice their religion freely with their own government, with rules on who can migrate and not turn punjab into a hindu state. Why do you push hindi language on us? We dont want our future generations to take up hindi over punjabi, punjabi language has been in our blood for generations. This is why we dont wana be part of india and we will fight for our right to self determination. After all if you think sikhs are so loving, why not do a vote in punjab with sikhs and see how many want independence. Im taking about a fair vote with no corruption or force on people, let people think freely, after all india is a 'democracy' right? India use sikhs as puppets, theres 0 respect for them. Everyone knows without sikhs indian army would be nothing. Kashmir also had a muslim majority state, if india is so free, why not give them a referedum as well? So you see, india is still a hindu country and it is only going to get worse.. you see can the hindu fanticals rising in india right now, india is a ticking time bomb. if you are so against congress why dont you do something about it rather than seeing them kill sikhs that you love so much? Actions speak louder than words.

And for everything islam can be peaceful. Look at nakana sahib in pakistan, its being looked after by pakistani muslims. No tanks have ever entered it and no mass killings have ever been done by muslim civilians, only taliban. Unlike delhi where hindu mobs rape girls and kill sikhs!

ive never seen hindus respect sikhism as a belief on twitter, or apoligise for 84, or back kahlistan, ive only ever seen this from paki muslims. Why cant we have kahlistan i dont get it? If you love sikhs cant u let it prosper and grow freely away from congress and bjp gov?