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That's an extremely defeatist view.
not really because u realy cant beat the illumanti and the people at the top, its gone too far now... Just focus on yourself and the people around you, dont play their game.
In regards to UK paks I hope they do change but its going to have to come from within. Same with our lot and drinking normalised, its going to have to come from everyone collectively from within
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The attackers are thought to be black females and yet-;
Just shows the level of intelligence of these two. On a serious note, I do think that these kinds of incidents will increase and the blame I think lies squarely with the Muslims. I have noticed that ever since 9/11 the Muslims though the media have sought too present their religion as a religion of peace and completely disassociate it from the terror attacks. They have even gone to the extent of telling bare faced lies such as Islam means peace whereas everyone should know that it means submission. In order to advance the victim narrative Muslim organisations are not averse to exaggerating the backlash. A few years ago an organisation called Tell Mama was exposed for using abuse on twitter and online forums as evidence of hate crimes! Muslim leaders will appear on TV to complain about a backlash even while the bodies of the victims of Islamic terrorism are still warm. Such images of a feared backlash has the opposite effect on people low intelligence which ironically might never have thought of attacking a Muslim for an act of terrorism but then have that thought placed in their heads and may well then go out attack a Muslim.
veera its all apart of the plan from the 'ones above us' i.e powerful corporations, govs etc
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the canadian and american muslims are very different than UK ones. Dont get it twisted in america paks are from karachi and lahore and they are doctors and dentists, they dont have time or its not in their thinking to tell their sons that white and indian girls are low and should be treated like meat.
But I have to admit I think the somali community in canada may be similar to the UK based on what I have been told by somalis - that theyre very violent etc etc. Also there is some lebanase gangsters in vancouver but i think they join white gangs, just like punjabis . This shows people are more about being 'canadian' than being muslim, paki, bengali, etc etc
As we all know its the backward people in the UK who raise their children to be crooks and drug dealers and haters of others. Never confuse the two communties as they are completely different...
Ive said this on here a few times now lol.
we need to stop talking about this same topic over and over. Ofcourse its good to highlight this problem but these people wont ever change, you just have to focus on yourself and our own panth then others. Forget politics its always going to be the same...
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You'd be surprised mrggg123. There's a great deal of difference between perception and reality. What I mean by that is that we shouldn't be viewing the Taliban Afganistan's view about women and education as the norm among Muslims. It is anything but. The reality is that they place an incredibly high value in the sciences and that is very much reflected in the extremely high number of hijabi young girls qualifying as doctors etc. The study of things like science etc is very much part of their religious traditions.
It should be part of ours too. Our Gurus took us out of the darkness and since then men have taken us back into it. Just to give you an example our religious leaders who wrote the rehat maryada before this current one was written and approved somewhere between 1920 and 1950, had ordered in that previous maryada that it is against the Sikh religion for any Sikh to study foreign languages especially Farsi. Now think about that for a moment. We are supposed to follow in our Guru's footsteps and our Guru studied and mastered the beautiful language of Farsi and yet up until fairly recently our parcharaks were telling us its a sin to study it and our official code of conduct was telling us we would be sinners if we did. This is what I mean by how man is taking us back into the darkness our Gurus got us out from. Our parcharks today are doing exactly the same thing because they regard success as being able to make the highest number of people possible become amritdhari. All of them know nothing about education because all of them dropped out of education at a young age and went to religious school under the tutilage of a previous parcharak master or, especially in the case of the homegrown UK parcharks, bunked off school regularly to spend their time in the Gurdwara learning baja and shabads. Education in the traditional sense means nothing to them and they care not one bit about the long term damage that will be done to the Sikhs when we have a whole generation of poorly educated people. All the parcharaks say is important is becoming amritdhari, learning to pronounce Gurbani correctly and doing path.
Don't kid yourself my friend. We Sikhs in the UK are extremely badly educated and we're getting worse. Thats why we take 100,000 on our human rights marches every year and achieve nothing but the Hindus and Muslims are educated enough to understand that all it takes is getting an extra 7 to 10 extra local members in the local political party and you then have direct access to political power. Thats why right wing Hindu MPs represent our Sikh constituencies. Thats why Pakistanis have become MPs in their dozens and even cabinet minsters and that why the capital city of the earth is about to get a Pakistani Mayor.
Our level of education in comparison is already terrible and its about to get alot worse in the next ten years.
still dont think thats true.. most sikhs i know go to uni and most paks i knw dont even finish school, or if they go uni they go for laugh to a crap uni, I dono where ur getting this info from. Why are sikhs the most likely to own their own home, be educated and also not be on benefits. compare this with paks and its the complete opposite they still livin in ghettos like 70s only wanting to be the next ali drug dealer. its not perception as I have seen it with my own eyes. Im nt having a pop at u veera but dont think that we should emulate these idiots. The paks your thinking of are in southall who are punjabi make up like 10 percent of UK pak population go up north and east london and youll see real halat.
I got one good example for you, Jagraj singh went oxford and got a 2.1 and hes doing just great so it can be done. He also balances his time out well, you need a good balance. When I was at uni most people were either gujus or sikhs. And I know a lot of sikh girls who did science degrees like biomed etc. The ones your talking about just want to work as basic nurses not look for cures in science as they say it sall written in the quaran. Just go up north and u can see for yourself whos reli exceeding in education. Ofcourse if a sikh wants to follow guruji they wont listen to crap about nt studying languages ive never herd so much crap in my life. most sikhs learn spanish etc at school as well as punjabi and get good grades. Paks only wana learn arabic and thats it.
Maybe we are bad with politics but in education sikhs are doing well we dont wana end up as criminals do we. I mean if u go sikh soc uni there are plenty of amridharis who manage the society, do their religious duties and come out with a good degree.
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I've said it time and again, our problems are our own making because we really are extremely poorly educated compared to the Hindus and Muslims. And I'm deliberately mentioining Muslims there because as any doctor or hospital worker in the UK knows our hospitals are choc a block full of hijab wearing muslim girls who have become doctors. The Pakistanis really do value the sciences alot.
We though, have a very serious problem on our hands and though its showing now its gonna become even more clearer within the next 15-20 yers because so many Sikh youngsters are getting into Sikhi because of popular parcharaks but those popular parcharaks actually blatantly tell the youngsters that the only importnt thing is to learn to do path etc. They actively tell the youngsters that education is just an afterthought that doesn't really matter that much in the bigger scheme of things. We've seriously got big problems coming our way.
And its all relevant to the issue about Malhi and Southall Singh Sabha Gurdwara because the problem there stems directly from a lack of education....lack of political know-how etc. I'll tell you what I mean: Any of you who live in west London will know how the Southall Singh Sabha elections operate in the exact same way the elections in Punjab operate, i.e through mob rule, intimidation and corruption. Total mayhem at election time. Our dads and uncles are forced, intimidated, co-erced and driven to the elections. It is total madness.
Lack of education by the young because the young could, if they knew how, understand that the Gurdwara is a registered charity and such voting tactics need to be reported to the charity commission for investigation and ultimate sanction.
So yes, our leaders, such as Malhi are exrement. But thats only because we're exrement too. A people get the leaders they deserve.
i would agree with u except for muslims being more educated. Those hijabi girls havent even been uni and plus u look at paki boys they arent even employed. Our lot exceed these lot in nearly every single field.
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Hindu, Sikhs are united and we will fight all those who try to disrupt peace in Punjab
yh ask those sikhs without police and fear and youll get your real answer. Sikhs and hindus are united but we dislike ur government who say we are hindus. So khalistan for sikhs and hindus who chose fair rule. the peace is being disrupted by your followers.
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Rofl. Khalistan= Khali (Blank)+ space!
til the day i die u little apologist, india is going into dark ages and the world is watching, we dont need to live under caste rule.
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Congress ‘anti-national’, party should be ‘derecognised’ for encouraging secessionists: Sukhbir Badal Badal alleged that under Rahul Gandhi's leadership Congress was trying to create the same environment in Punjab that it suffered during the years of militancy.By: PTI | New Delhi | Updated: November 21, 2015 5:05 pm
Punjab Deputy CM Sukhbir Badal addressing a press conference. (Source: Twitter/ANI)Punjab Deputy Chief Minister Sukhbir Singh Badal on Saturday accused Congress of fomenting trouble in Punjab by encouraging secessionist forces.
Addressing a press conference, Badal alleged that Congress leaders shared stage with radical and separatist elements at a recent gathering in Amritsar, where demand for Khalistan was raked up.
Badal, who is the chief of Punjab’s ruling Shiromani Akali Dal (Badal), also met President Pranab Mukherjee and demanded that action should be taken against Congress and the party should be “derecognised”.
Read: Amarinder Singh rejects Sukhbir’s charges on Congress being ‘anti-national’
He alleged that under Rahul Gandhi’s leadership Congress was trying to create the same environment in Punjab that it suffered during the years of militancy.
He said that his government had also written to the Home Ministry regarding the developments in the state.
The role of Congress, he claimed, “had been exposed” as its leaders had attended the gathering in Amritsar on November 10 where “the major demand was for a separate state of Khalistan”.
“Congress is showing its true colours as a true anti-national party in Punjab. Groups which were demanding Khalistan held a rally in Amritsar, Congress leaders shared stage with them,” said Sukhbir Badal.
Referring to the ‘Sarbat Khalsa’ or Sikh religious congregation, he said they appointed the convict in Beant Singh assassination case as ‘jathedar’ or chief priest.
He alleged that videos on social media show Congress leaders directing separatists about what to say and that they have provided other support for the gathering.
Badal also claimed that one of the Congress leaders present Ramanjit Singh Sikki is known to be close to former CM and Congress leader Amarinder Singh. He said Congress leader Inderjit Singh Zira was also present.
“The Congress is trying to distance itself from the congregation. If they were not part of it, why have they taken no action against Congress leaders who were on stage and provided support,” Badal asked.
Rahul Gandhi, he further alleged, went to Punjab and encouraged radical elements at a time when Pakistan’s ISI is already on the lookout to foment trouble in the state and demanded action against the Congress.
The President, Badal told reporters, had assured him that the matter will be looked into.
At the press conference, Badal was asked that law and order is a state subject, so why a press conference in Delhi was needed.
He replied that the state government had acted and more arrests are on the way but added that there was a need to tell the nation about the “role Congress is playing”.
He was also asked about the demand of Punjab Chief Minister Parkash Singh Badal about release of certain Sikh extremists from jail.
The Punjab Deputy Chief Minister replied that they had sought release of only those people who have served the sentences awarded to them as per law.
(With ANI inputs)
screw badal, khalistan zindabad.
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I agree the reason it should be locked is because of Gurujis nindia. Also if S1NNG thinks they are not living Guru, then why do my cousins bow down to them ?
this is false as I also have family who follow radha soami and they do not bow down to him (although what they are doing is wrong)
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LOL dat does sound like jay frm east london man looks drugged up
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This is a very popular word in usage by Sikhs born abroad, particularly, in Canada. I have hear it many times from my wife's side of the relatives. I thought Sikhs use this word to differentiate between the educated and not so educated segments of society.
hey mark... welcome
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None of us are concerned about Sikh and Hindu marriage. My cousin is married to a Sikh boy. By the way, I had lived in London for a year. I was shocked to see many Hindu,Sikh girls dating Pakis.
lol were u blind? Theres not huge numbers like u say theres plenty of sikh boys who look and dress like pakis as well. Your visa finished after a year so now u gone bye bye
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The Sikh girls going with muzzies are 3-4 times more than their girls going out with Sikhs
Sikhs girls are being exploited by those Pakis mirpurias jihadis. Many sikh girls are marrying to their men and converting to Islam. Some of these Sikhs who support UK muslims against Modi ; are either dumb or funded by Pakistan ISI
not where i live, its now more sikh boys goin with mirpuri girls or watever. You dont live here and ur a hindu anyway LOL, your girls all goin with sikh not that im boasting or anything.
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Santa/banta tactics. Pretend they are our friends when it suits them but molest girls at any available opportunity right under our nose, then snigger about how dumb our lot are (for good reason too!)
dw karma will get them, there girls going with sikhs now as wel.
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those who were protesting with sikhs were azad kashmiris from uk towns. I gota respect them for standing with us against modi. But at the same time these are the same ones causing problems in the UK and targeting the sikhs in bham etc. And i doubt they would protest if it was a muslim leader coming... heck they wouldnt even protest against nawaz sharif not like hes any better is he.
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we'll see who it was but im guessing muslims based on what has happened there before. Sad really sad...
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How am i spreading caste hatred u mug? Im tellin it how it is. Oh n btw, im not from any of the larger panjab tribes, so im not bias towards any, or bias against.
Heres the show mate.
safe cuzzzy lol
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I listened to the 1st hour, it had on, 3 pro-modi fuddus (incl a indian muslim chamcha), and had jagraj singh (BoS). Jagraj WIPED the floor with the lot of em. Tripti patel, the bandhari frm hindu forum, chatted complete nonsense, n cudnt even answer a simple question, "sikhi is considered as branch of hinduism, do u not think its seperate faith?".
Then the stupid cow, then proceeded with the usual hindu crap of, "oh every hindu houselhold kept their eldest son blah blah" bakwas cr@p. Btw we cant blame hindus for spreading this nonsense, because, its the khatri/arora sikhs who have spread this misinformation to whole of the elephant worshippin majority. Unfortunatly, jus before jagraj was gona answer her, nihal cut him off.
was this todays show at 3pm? Didnt hear jagraj come on yesterday.
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Here is their FB page. Notice how they try to make it look like, theyre tacklin groomin, n raising awareness, YET, all their cases/links they r showin, is ALL non-p@ki paedos. Which is jus amazing, considerin how theyve got paedos by the bucketloads. Pathetic!
exactly wat i was thinking.
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all theyre doing is putting up story of white paedophiles which is good but seems to me theyre shifting the blame. One thing which caught my eye is this
Sick businessman posed as a teenager on dating website before sexually abusing schoolgirl.
Right now, there are over 1,000 people in the UK grooming children online.
Please remain vigilant about who your daughter is communicating with online.
seems like a typical pakistani trying to be funny with the description 'sick businessmen' basically to me that sounds like they taking the mick instead of saying sikh businessman they thought it would be appropriate to put sick... do they use their brains?
P.A.G.A.L.
your opinion on them? I went on there thinking these guys are doing good but just seems they dont want their culture tarnished to me.
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who are these clowns? Seems like another group trina shove the blame elsewhere?
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Then they should be going into schools.
well whatever jagraj and bos are doing thats all we can hope on for now. Maybe with wahegurus grace i can follow their footsteps. All im saying is most people are far gone down the road to athiesm its gona b hard to bring em bak
BTW what kind of name is ajmeer LOL dis guy is a clown dont know what hes playing at maybe he should come on here ...
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Hanji mrggg123 I understand the anger you have, but dating is not the way to tackle this issue, as it's going to be exactly what the bad opposition is doing then, isn't it? As Sikhs, we should not fall to the same level as them, then that will be same as begging them.
' Mangan maran smaan hai, Mat koi mangeh bheekh
Mangne se marna bhala, yeh Satgur ki Seekh '. - Bhagat Kabir Ji.
There are other ways to deal with it, but sorry I don't feel this is the appropriate way. I think every university should have the Basics of Sikhi doing their parchaar in English, along with Sikh Awareness Society to show girls what is happening and how their lives are messed up. The more of it the better, so they don't even think about turning towards them.
to be honest peenji its a bit to late... when someone is programmed to be a certain away at age of 18 etc along with media and peers its very hard to change people. We can try and cut our loses now but we need to focus on the young children from a young age. Or maybe our lot dont want to listen who knows... im just sick of hearing muslim this muslim that if its such a big problem help tackle it not moan. And ok yeh dating isnt the way i was just saying it as a last resort method cos i knw this community very well and trus me they do not treat daughters with respect.
I'll just say a popular line that many people have heard of "2 wrongs don't make a right" the fault is on the parents as well as the children which is why we need groups like the SAS. Also I believe in GurPrassad is the only way someone can become Sikh. (Though Prachar is still good,) would you be ok with Sikhs dating other faiths like Christians and Hindus?
problem is veera some parents hate sikhi themseleves they are technically athiest they care about money and thats it.. so what hope do we have in trying to sway their kids :(
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Pakistan Sikh Gurdwara Parbandhak Committee Meets Let Terrorist Hafiz Saeed
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and what about other deaths? Atleast pakistan recognise sikhs as a separate religion, india cant even do that. I got more respect for pak punjabis than your lot.