sukhi077

lol..... during whole of the video ..I was looking at the palm tree of hair made by that red wearing suit. woman.. ki kariye sikhi wich reh ke aurat fashion nai kar sakdi na taah karke .... Chaaddo na yar kyu apna mind unstable karna eho yahia videos dekh ke... sikhi sidak nibhouna koi sokhi gal nahi........just say them best of luck for their cheap level of hypocrisy............that's all.....

yeh gurua da dita maan te sanmaan inha aurat lyi bojh ban gya hai ta kasoor ina da apna hai na ki sikhi da........

Sikhi comes with waheguru di mehar...............

Brother, please do not waste your time arguing with such respectful people who do not know the meaning of respect.

Mods should have dealt with this by now.

I m not arguing...wadya samjdara...................

veer jee, ਗੁਸੇ ਵਿਚ, ਇਕ ਮਾਂ ਆਪਣੇ ਪੁੱਤ ਨੂੰ ਕਈ ਵਾਰ ਕੁੱਤਾ ਭੀ ਆਖ ਦਿੰਦੀ ਹੈ, ਕੀ ਇਸ ਦਾ ਮਤਲਬ ਇਹ ਹੋਇਆ ਕਿ ਤੁਸੀਂ ਸਿੰਘ ਸਾਹਿਬ ਜੀ ਨੂੰ "ਕੁੱਤਾ" ਕਹੇ ਕੇ ਬੁਲਾ ਸਕਦੇ ਹੋ?

trying to use technicalities like saying you used a masculine word not a feminine word does not change the level of disrespect.

Singh Sahibs of the Takhts should be given the same satkaar and respect that one gives their parents. Would you call your father the disrespectful word you used for the Jathadar of the Akal Takht?

where do you live??? and okayy I say sorry for those words because I don't know how to argue...and I don't want to too....but My point is very clear that I did not say this thing to singh saheb okay? I think we know the people more when we meet them personally...( this is my thought) I said this thing to individual person.....

Galleyan wich haar pavaake photoa kichouna b Singh saheba da kaam nai hunda....

Sukhi Veerji, Kanjar does not mean dumb. It means someone who works as a professional dancer. In olden times, women who worked in Kotaas doing Mujra were called Kanjris in Punjabi. And Singh Sahib is the Jathadar of the Akal Takht which is the highest temporal authority of our Panth. Calling Singh Sahib as Kanjar is the height of disrespect.

dear johnny saab...

ide wich fe meri galti nai ye ae wala kanjar tusi socya.....ithe ta punjabi wich ek maa b apne bete nu kanjar keh dindi a..te fe oh kothe te nachan waala ho gya.??....its the same case as we use swag , baby, etc etc words of english in different senses........... te naale main kanjar di gal kiti c naa kii kanjari di.....

Bro, that's not appropriate language for Singh Sahib. Show some respect[/quote

their character and behaviour don't make them singh and saheb...btw I just used kanjar that can be defined as dumb in english or something else? ithe loki aake pta naii ki ki bakwas kari jande ...te unha nu samjdhari dakhon lag pende a...udo ta chete aundi nai pls ....show some respect?

I think disabled people should be accommodated since they are physically unable to sit on ground. But others should not be allowed to sit on benches and chairs. New trend has started since the last decade where so many Gurdwaras in the west are installing chairs and benches in the hazuri of Maharaj. Chairs are there for disabled people but 99% of the people I have seen using them are not even disabled. They are normal and physically have no problem sitting on ground, yet they sit on chairs. Look at this picture:

As you can see the women in the back sitting on those chairs are normal and from the looks of it are doing chuglis in the Hazuri of Maharaj while only one woman(3rd from left) is disabled which is why she is sitting on a wheelchair. But the other ones are just sitting on chairs for no reason.

This is why chairs and benches should not even be in the Hazuri of Maharaj. Perfectly normal people start to take advantage of these facilities. Only the real disabled people should be sitting on chairs.

hehehe...timi apni aadat se baaj nahi aati

Mind your language when you speak about Sikh Sahibs. Mods, can you please delete the above derogatory comment.

they are not either sikh or singh sahib...they are just wearing these labels.......unha wich jaake do din reh ke dekh lyo pta lag jauga.....

because as time has passed sikhs not schooled in the traditonal gurmat schools have created their own version of gurmat.

it has happened to every religion in the world.

i wouldnt go that far Bhaji, Guru JI tells in Bachitar Natak that the Guru's were one jyot in ten bodies. Guru Ji further says only fools think them separate.

so you do follow that school that create own version of gurmat? thehee the hee..

shukar a rabb da ..inna nu b kite akal ayi....welcome all decisions....

wjkk wjkf sad sabgat ji i have a horrible problem is that i masterbate and i tried to stop i stopped for about 2 months and than started again i always do ardaas i do kirtan and seva all the time i always feel bad for doing this can i get some help khalsa ji ? i try all the time but always end up doing it i need help SANGAT JI PLZ JI HELP ME OUT ! I'm a very good kid ji only 18 i do path seva kirtan everything ji

lol. it is masterbate or masturbate ? sachi ae ki a? thavanu welya nu hor koi kaam nai..?

You've tried everything now what's left? It's part of who you are just accept it as hukam this is what God wants from you. Don't feel guilty just accept it and live your life.

lol...baba tu theek ta hai?

I like to think we are all one on a universal level including the gurus. But each guru was different as they looked different and had different thoughts.

can you give me some examples of different thoughts?

thinking capacity or not - there is no way everyone will be the same and have the same thought process everything - each mind/ munn is different - and each has according to their own past karms will be nearer or further to sikhe thought process - any other elobariton you require? apples or bannas or whatever - tell what is exactly the same?

so do you agree that people do manmat usually?

Jeeo,

Do you mean same thinking of gurmat 100% - i.e per rehat maryada ??

There will always be differences - we are to live and respect them equally as khlasa.Sikhe is most natural dharm ever in this world which looks for perfection in this way and that. Next time you come across an acre of flowers or apples - ask and take a look do they all grow the same way and have the exactly the same kind of shine in all OF THEM? It's not nature's way to all the same way.

apples and flowers? have they thinking capacity ?

its very obvious, that we do not have 100% same thinking of Gurmat, but we still have unity, in spite of our ideological differences.

why don't we have 100% same thinking of gurmat??

you do either good or bad waheguru accepts everything.....its in you and him/her..........but when he returns....fe taahhh.,.,,,,main kya rabb di souuu menge payge ohde kar...................

so cute......but when it comes to sikhi...I think we should think of it before our choice.....bc sikhi we did not get it like as lolipop .......

lol...o prava tu style di gal karda...sir te chunni ya simple dastaar hi ban len ohi boht waddi gal a....styla nu chad para......

From my blog: http://back2sikhi.blogspot.com/2010/02/getting-used-to-gazes.html. Please comment on what you think - what are some challenges to keeping hair in the West? Benefits? Why do we do it?

When people ask me about my long hair, I tell them that I have never cut it because of my religion.

That is true about the hair on my head, but not about the hair elsewhere on my body. That is - I have shaved, waxed, and threaded. Does this make me a bad person?

I am not sure. Clearly, 98% of the rest of "my world" - particularly the females - remove their body hair. And most of these people are not, necessarily, "bad".

Do I feel guilty about it? To be honest - not really. It was something I went through to fit in. But my actions were still in line with Sikhi: nam japna, vand chakna, kirt karni.

About 2 years ago, after much meditation, I slowly stopped these hair-removing processes. It wasn't something that I woke up and immediately decided. It just kind of happened. And with Guru's grace, I have been entirely okay with it.

The only thing that has taken some getting used to is the stares. I generally keep my body covered, but I also like to swim. My swimming suit, if you will, involves shorts and a t-shirt. A lot of people - especially women - stare at my legs. It's as though they are willing me to feel bad about my choice to keep my hair.

Yet I do not give in to their desire to make me feel ashamed. I actually find my choice liberating and motivating, not to mention economical. Sikhs are supposed to be leaders - leaders do not care about what other people think when they know what they are doing in their heart is right. I am also saving money on these "cosmetic supplies" - money that adds up when you notice that the "treatments" are lifelong. Is there a reason that our hair keeps growing back no matter how much we try to stop it? Why not give in to the way Waheguru has made our bodies?

The most exciting part about this, however, is the opportunities it brings up to educate my brothers and sisters. When I catch people, especially children, staring at me, I look back and smile. If these people ask me questions, I have this golden chance to explain to people that I am a Sikh, and talk about the basic principles of our religion.

Several years ago, when I did shave my legs, I did not have this confidence. Now, ironically, when I am subject to public scrutiny, I do believe - in myself, in humanity, in Waheguru.

dil khush ho gya g...........rabb kare har sikh aurat thavade wang soche...... sab toh waddi gal hundi a commitment karni....te ae sarya nu pta va ..commitment deni koi sokhi gal nai...

first you say i have a curable illness and now your associating me with india...can it get any worse!! :surrender:

kakka tere wich moh di boht waddi matra va thodha inu katt kar nai ta aukha hunga age jaake.....btw it was just a general message to that "skaur8888"

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh ji

The below post was posted a while back in gupt and subsequently locked, no reasons given. Though its not my place to comment on the posters sexuality, i do think he made some valid points worth discussing. Also, if for some reason admin think this post should be locked, please give reasons. Thank you.

" Hello All,

Before I get to my question, I'd like to give some background as to where it's coming from. I am a western born and raised proud Sikh male. I am not amritdhari, as I don't believe I will be able to follow the strict "rules" constructed by society and applied to those who choose that path.

I am also gay and therein lies the issue. From my research, I have come to understand that the Gurbani is silent on the issue of homosexuality. However, the Akal Takth has taken a heavy stance against it (I find this ironic since Sikhi is a religion founded on the basis of acceptance and equality. Telling people there's no such thing as homosexuals and they don't deserve the support of the community is the last thing I would expect from a leader of the faith.)

Recently, I have been contemplating telling my friends and family of my sexuality. I understand this will cause them much pain, but it is who I am and people deserve to know the "real" me, and I also deserve to be proud of who I am (by hiding it, I'm making it out as something to be ashamed of; which I don't believe it is). Also, the idea of marriage is becoming a larger issue in my life, and there is only so much time that I will be able to manage to put it off.

I have 3 questions which I'd like opinions about:

1) How would you react to the knowledge that someone you were close to was gay?

2) What are your thoughts on the consequences of the combination of my sexuality and religion?

3) What are your thoughts on the Akal Takth's stance against gay marriage and homosexuality?

Now before people ask: Yes, I have tried "not to be gay", but it's not a choice. Trying is akin to pretending; which is lying; which is wrong. Also, have you "tried" not to be straight?"

The question comes to an end when you have already accepted to do "MERI MERI ".. Live your life in your own way .No one is forcing you to be changed . But it also gets clear that

Sikhi has nothing to do with homosexuality.....""""Gal ta ithe muk jandi a jado Bande wich "MAIN" a gya.......samjo sikhi ude wicho khatam ho gyii kyunki ahnkaar ude te haavi ho gya...

jithe saade Gurua ne dusre lokaan lyi jeena sikhaaya uthe ajj de sikha nu apne intercourse di tention pyi hoi a....ki ae ek nashaa hai ?? ki ae sikhi to be waddi cheez ho gyi??

how he's written his post shows it Is genuine, unlike some posts that are just fake and made to create a reaction against Sikh women. he's been honest and isn't trying to encourage others to express negative opinions about one group of people - he's seems to be looking for genuine advice. As you get more life experience you'll be able to see the difference too.

Recently Shiv sena has appointed 160 authors/philosophers/.writers/historians ..and they are about to change the indian history ...and I bet those authors/philosophers/writers have good command in writing the speech or articles... ...looks everything genuine you know.. anyways I hope you read my whole text ......and thanks ...........yes more life more experience..

sukhi077 ji why should this thread be ignored, he has a dilemma and is asking advice, and has asked politely. Maybe its your age (you seem very young from some of your responses) but people deserve politeness in response to their genuine questions, even if you don't agree with them.

lol..I m 22 ..yeahh its a different thing if I m health conscious and fit guy :strong: ..

now come to question why did I say like that?

Because same as like yoga ,,Homosexuality has nothing to do with sikhi,,, it's his life he can live it in his own way being gay or not being gay. Just read his thoughts again he seems to

be confused with himself... when there are millions of gay forums available on internet discussing about the problem of any religion as obstacle in homosexuality then why is he on

sikh forum ? when he clearly explains "Im not here to discuss what Sikhi or anyone has to say regarding homosexuality" and suddenly he turns and says "I just want some honest advice, less of the preaching." so now we have to be non gurmat or non sikh to give him advice?

I ask you does sikhi say be busy in kaam?? I think He cares of his Kaam much more than Sikhi.. He says " Sikhi has and always will be an integral part of me."""

The question is now if sikhi would have been an integral part of him? was he going to be homosexual???? Sikhi is Gurmat and Gurmat is sikhi .. and homosexuality??? of course Manmat....

if someone is addicted of alcohol ,He/she can get rid of it. There are hundreds of way in medical sector and we know this thing but many of us don't want to why?

because "ae life ta enjoy karn di a...inu enjoy karo...mazza boht aunda sharaab peeke...."

if someone is addicted of masturbation ,He/she can get rid of it.There are hundreds of way in medical sector and we know this thing but many of us don't want to why?

because ""assi ta punjabi a... nazzaare lene ta sadde khoon wich a...ae ta natural cheez a ...edi koi tension len di jaroorat nai....naale rabb kehdha kenda ae kaam na karo....life nu bas enjoy karo.................

Our All ten gurus were keshadhari with full unshorn beards...because Gurbani wants natural process of formation of human beings.its very common sense too .Everybody knows about it and you know what we assume ??? We assume first nine Gurus did not say to keep hair so we can cut them.Keeping hair does not make someone true sikh but how we are meany and creepy we never say those nine gurus were also keshdhari so we SHOULD keep our hair....

In the same way there are hundreds of treatments for homosexuality....but he would not go for it.....bc he wanna enjoy it...he wanna enjoy the worldly life......

ithe lokaan ne apni jado karni hi manmat a te fe advice kyu deni? """"Murkh nu adivce den waala khud murk hunda va.""....

ithe aajkal de sikh phela granth pardh ke dekhde a...fe dekhde a ke oh ide wich kinna k fit bende a ...fe dekhde a oh innu kinna k follow kar

sakde a.....fe dekhde a ke is wich likhi hoi cheez nu kida badlya jaave ta krke ohh kal nu apne aap nu nai balki jo likhya huya granth wich hai

ohnu galat keha jaave.....ithe kamine log wasde..............

and you tell me what makes you think that its genuine question? hm? Have you got dream about him that he is really a guy who was born into sikh family?lol.

and when someone guy sikh/non sikh comes on this forum and starts pointing out negative character of modern sikh woman for sikh man and religion today (that's quite True) then you find the questioner not genuine and potential and energy looks you so wasteful ... right??lol...

madam ji ...tusi ta oh gal kar diti ""Sadda kuttaa kuttaaa te thavada Kuttaa TOMMY....... :lol2:

There is anti sikh propaganda these days by hindu muslim guys to degrade sikhi at any cost......

SO BEWARE................

simply ignore this useless thread.....who knows he exists on this earth or not..............

when we follow nanakshahi calender it comes in april (maybe but not sure) otherwise according to aryan calender its in november...

Allah has no religion

you did not get my drift actually......I had some other sense.....