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  1. Many Sikhs like me also have this view. We're automatically labelled as 'RSS' or not proper Sikhs because we believe this, but absolutely no offence intended to anyone but who is greater......Guru Nanak Dev Ji maharaj and our other 10 Gurus (including GGSJ) or bhindrawale? Because from an outside view they may look like they stood for the same thing which is what many young Sikhs are led into believing, but when we delve into the lives of the gurus and their teachings and what bhindrawale stood for they couldn't be more different. From my own experience is disgusting to see that when asked, many of our younger sikh generation can't even name the ten gurus in order or read our beautiful baani, but when questioned about 1984 they suddenly become all knowing Sikhs. I fear in a few generations to come, we will only know one guru........Guru Bhindrawale and our actual wonderful gurus will be all but forgotten and 'murti pooja' to guru bhindrawale will be all that sikhi will become.
  2. Lol agreed, more than anything I was looking for a discussion response people could read if they came across anyone like this but haha great answer.
  3. Waheguru Ji ka khalsa, waheguru Ji ki fateh! I recently came across this website: http://www.islam-sikhism.info/hist/feud/feud01.htm and was quite taken back at what was written, please could I have a balanced response to these claims pyaare sangat ji? Thank you
  4. Especially: 'There is no contentment on Gurbani in your post. You are still searching for something that is not there. You have a phobia of Gurbani as the way it is. Gurbani does not need to be changed, you do.' Sorry to intervene in your criticism Paaji, just wanted maharaj to say: ਸਭਿ ਕੀ ਰੇਨ ਹਇ ਰਹੇ ਪੰਖਰੂ, ਮੰਦਾ ਕਿਸਹਿ ਨ ਭਾਖੋ ॥੯॥ Become the dust from the feet of others and stay humble, do not call anyone else bad. Thanks.
  5. I pretty much agree with sikhiseeker as to the answer of this. And their answer also answers your response in my opinion. Also I I said my post in 'Bhagauti and Durga' which I refrained from copying and pasting. In my opinion it's simple, Durga is a manifestation of the Bir ras if Vahiguruji and nothing wrong with praising that. It's not Devi worship or 'hinduisation', and single lines just like 'there is no hindu, no Muslim' if quoted by themselves can and are massively taken out of context that's why whole texts should be read and put together. I'm sorry if that offends you it's just my opinion. Anyway hope our answers have helped the person who posted. Thank you.
  6. 'The bani is praising the source of shakti and the shakti in the form of weapons' In my opinion, again no offence to anyone intended, but I feel guru Ji is praising the form of shakti in this instance in the form of Durga herself, Guru Ji does in many cases praise the shakti in the form of weapons but I don't feel that's what's happening in this instance. It doesn't mean guru Ji's 'worshipping a Devi' or anything like, which many people fear in discussing in this area. But he's appreciating vahigurus shakti in the form of the Devi. Also this shaktis other half is not Indira (again in my opinion). Also again in my humble opinion it's a misconception that indira is the supreme being in Hinduism. Our Guru Granth Sahib Ji maharaj explains this beautifully in the last post I wrote in 'Bhagauti and Durga' discussion (I'll refrain from copying and pasting it). Thanks.
  7. In my opinion (do not want to offend others). Yes it literally means what it says, Durga is the Hindu goddess and she is a manifestation of Vahigurus shakti so it's not worshipping her as a Devi but evoking that shakti of Vahiguru that mata ji represents, as she is a part of the infinite Akaal purakh Vahiguru. And yea moksha/mukti is attained but it's not a simple case of singing her path, it's understanding and living the teachings our Gurus taught us. Otherwise everyone would just sing it and do nothing else and feel we have attained mukti........that would make us no better than certain Muslims who live a life of sin but feel they will go to heaven because they have converted 'non- believers'. Once again, apologies if this offends anyone, this is my humble opinion. Ps you may find interesting the topic I started caller 'bhagauti and Durga'
  8. Just read this and explains it beautifully: First Stanza of Sarbloh Granth Translation ੴ One (advait - non-dual) Lord who is the light of all creation ਸ੍ਰੀ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫਤਹ ॥ Victory to Sri Vahiguru ਸ੍ਰੀ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ ॥ May Bhavani be helpful ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਸਹਾਇ ॥ May Maya Laxmi be helpful ਉਸਤਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਲਛਮੀ ਜੀ ਕੀ ॥ The Praise of Sri Maya Laxmi ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮੁਖਿਵਾਕਯ ਪਾਤਿਸ਼ਾਹੀ ੧੦ ॥ From the blessed mouth of the Tenth King ਦੋਹਿਰਾ ॥ ਛਾਯਾ ਰੂਪੀ ਹੇਇ ਕੈ, ਬਿਚਰਤ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਗੋਪਾਲ ॥ Taking the form of Maya (the great illusion, duality), Gopal (the preserver of Life) wanders within it (the creation) ਆਪਹਿ ਲਛਮੀ ਬਪੁ ਧਰੇ, ਜੀਉ ਜੰਤੁ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲ ॥੧॥ For the protection of beings, He took the form of Sri Laxmi ਸ੍ਰੀ ਮਾਯਾ ਮੁਖਿ ਕਰੋ ਉਚਾਰ ॥ Recite, “Sri Maya”, from your mouth ਦਰਿਦ੍ਰ ਸਾਗਰ ਤੇ ਲੇਹੁ ਉਬਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ She protects the weak from the (dreadful) ocean ਦੋਹਿਰਾ ॥ ਆਦਿ ਭਵਾਨੀ ਈਸੁਰੀ, ਮਾਯਾ ਜਾ ਕੋ ਨਾਮ ॥ The Primordial Bhavani (Paida karn vali shakti*) the Creator, whose name is Maya ਇਨ ਬਿਨ ਸਰੈ ਨ ਏਕ ਛਿਨ, ਪੂਰਨ ਹੋਤ ਨ ਕਾਮ ॥੨॥ Nothing can be accomplished without Her protection not even for a moment. ਸੁਖਦਾਇਕ ਮੰਗਲਕਰਨ, ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲੇ ਬਹੁ ਭਾਂਤਿ ॥ The giver of happiness, giver of liberation, Her very nature is to take care of Her creation ਸੁਬੁਧਿਦੈਨ ਜੈ ਜੈ ਕਰਨਿ, ਮਾਯਾ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਜਗਮਾਤਿ ॥੩॥ Hail Hail to the One who gives awareness of the Self (aatma), Maya (Laxmi), the mother of the World Notes according to the Budha Dal Steek on Sarbloh Granth: Bhavani (the fericous form of Parbati, Shivji's consort, also known as Durga, Bhagauti) here is noted as "Paida karan vali shakti", meaning, that She is the Creative (that which gives birth) Energy of the Universe. Maya Laxmi (Vishnu's consort) is noted as "Paalnaa karan vali Shakti", meaning She is the Nourishing/protecting Energy of the Universe. The Steek talks about how these Devi's represent Guna's (qualities) of Vahiguru. And for those who don't believe in Sri Sarbloh Granth Sahib, Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaj explains it amazingly too how they are all a part of and manifested aspects the infinite to guide us but at the end it's all one a part of Vahiguru Ji. Lovely how when needed Maharaj always provides the answers: ਮਾਰ ੂ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ॥ maaroo mehlaa 5. Maaroo, Fifth Mehl: ਅਚਤੁ ਪਾਰਬਰ੍ਹਮ ਪਰਮੇਸੁਰ ਅੰਤਰਜਾਮੀ ॥ achut paarbarahm parmaysur antarjaamee. The Supreme Lord God is imperishable, the Transcendent Lord, the Inner-knower, the Searcher of hearts. ਮਧੁਸੂਦਨ ਦਾਮੋਦਰ ਸੁਆਮੀ ॥ maDhusoodan daamodar su-aamee. He is the Slayer of demons, our Supreme Lord and Master. ਿਰਖੀਕੇਸ ਗੋਵਰਧਨ ਧਾਰੀ ਮੁਰਲੀ ਮਨੋਹਰ ਹਿਰ ਰੰਗਾ ॥੧॥ rikheekays govarDhan Dhaaree murlee manohar har rangaa. ||1|| The Supreme Rishi, the Master of the sensory organs, the uplifter of mountains, the joyful Lord playing His enticing flute. ||1|| ਮੋਹਨ ਮਾਧਵ ਿਕਰ੍ਸ ਮੁਰਾਰੇ ॥ mohan maaDhav krisan muraaray. The Enticer of Hearts, the Lord of wealth, Krishna, the Enemy of ego. ਜਗਦੀਸੁਰ ਹਿਰ ਜੀਉ ਅਸੁਰ ਸੰਘਾਰੇ ॥ jagdeesur har jee-o asur sanghaaray. The Lord of the Universe, the Dear Lord, the Destroyer of demons. ਜਗਜੀਵਨ ਅਿਬਨਾਸੀ ਠਾਕੁਰ ਘਟ ਘਟ ਵਾਸੀ ਹੈ ਸੰਗਾ ॥੨॥ jagjeevan abhinaasee thaakur ghat ghat vaasee hai sangaa. ||2|| The Life of the World, our eternal and ever-stable Lord and Master dwells within each and every heart, and is always with us. ||2|| ਧਰਣੀਧਰ ਈਸ ਨਰਿਸੰਘ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥ DharneeDhar ees narsingh naaraa-in. The Support of the Earth, the man-lion, the Supreme Lord God. ਦਾੜਾ ਅਗਰ੍ੇ ਿਪਰ੍ਥਿਮ ਧਰਾਇਣ ॥ daarhaa agray paritham Dharaa-in. The Protector who tears apart demons with His teeth, the Upholder of the earth. ਬਾਵਨ ਰੂਪੁ ਕੀਆ ਤੁਧੁ ਕਰਤੇ ਸਭ ਹੀ ਸੇਤੀ ਹੈ ਚੰਗਾ ॥੩॥ baavan roop kee-aa tuDh kartay sabh hee saytee hai changa. ||3|| O Creator, You assumed the form of the pygmy to humble the demons; You are the Lord God of all. ||3|| ਸਰ੍ੀ ਰਾਮਚੰਦ ਿਜਸੁ ਰੂਪੁ ਨ ਰੇਿਖਆ ॥ saree raamchand jis roop na raykh-i-aa. You are the Great Raam Chand, who has no form or feature. ਬਨਵਾਲੀ ਚਕਰ੍ਪਾਿਣ ਦਰਿਸ ਅਨੂਿਪਆ ॥ banvaalee chakarpaan daras anoopi-aa. Adorned with flowers, holding the chakra in Your hand, Your form is incomparably beautiful. ਸਹਸ ਨੇਤਰ੍ ਮੂਰਿਤ ਹੈ ਸਹਸਾ ਇਕੁ ਦਾਤਾ ਸਭ ਹੈ ਮੰਗਾ ॥੪॥ sahas naytar moorat hai sahsaa ik daataa sabh hai mangaa. ||4|| You have thousands of eyes, and thousands of forms. You alone are the Giver, and all are beggars of You. ||4|| ਭਗਿਤ ਵਛਲੁ ਅਨਾਥਹ ਨਾਥੇ ॥ bhagat vachhal anaathah naathay. You are the Lover of Your devotees, the Master of the masterless. ਗੋਪੀ ਨਾਥੁ ਸਗਲ ਹੈ ਸਾਥੇ ॥ gopee naath sagal hai saathay. The Lord and Master of the milk-maids, You are the companion of all. ਬਾਸੁਦੇਵ ਿਨਰੰਜਨ ਦਾਤੇ ਬਰਿਨ ਨ ਸਾਕਉ ਗੁਣ ਅੰਗਾ ॥੫॥ baasudayv niranjan daatay baran na saaka-o gun angaa. ||5|| O Lord, Immacuate Great Giver, I cannot describe even an iota of Your Glorious Virtues. ||5|| ਮੁਕੰਦ ਮਨੋਹਰ ਲਖਮੀ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ॥ mukand manohar lakhmee naaraa-in. Liberator, Enticing Lord, Lord of Lakshmi, Supreme Lord God. ਦਰ੍ੋਪਤੀ ਲਜਾ ਿਨਵਾਿਰ ਉਧਾਰਣ ॥ daropatee lajaa nivaar uDhaaran. Savior of Dropadi's honor. ਕਮਲਾਕੰਤ ਕਰਿਹ ਕੰਤੂਹਲ ਅਨਦ ਿਬਨੋਦੀ ਿਨਹਸੰਗਾ ॥੬॥ kamlaakant karahi kantoohal anad binodee nihsangaa. ||6|| Lord of Maya, miracle-worker, absorbed in delightful play, unattached. ||6|| ਅਮੋਘ ਦਰਸਨ ਆਜੂਨੀ ਸੰਭਉ ॥ amogh darsan aajoonee sambha-o. The Blessed Vision of His Darshan is fruitful and rewarding; He is not born, He is selfexistent. ਅਕਾਲ ਮੂਰਿਤ ਿਜਸੁ ਕਦੇ ਨਾਹੀ ਖਉ ॥ akaal moorat jis kaday naahee kha-o. His form is undying; it is never destroyed. ਅਿਬਨਾਸੀ ਅਿਬਗਤ ਅਗੋਚਰ ਸਭੁ ਿਕਛੁ ਤੁਝ ਹੀ ਹੈ ਲਗਾ ॥੭॥ abhinaasee abigat agochar sabh kichh tujh hee hai lagaa. ||7|| O imperishable, eternal, unfathomable Lord, everything is attached to You. ||7|| ਸਰ੍ੀਰੰਗ ਬੈਕੁੰਠ ਕੇ ਵਾਸੀ ॥ sareerang baikunth kay vaasee. The Lover of greatness, who dwells in heaven. ਮਛੁ ਕਛੁ ਕੂਰਮੁ ਆਿਗਆ ਅਉਤਰਾਸੀ ॥ machh kachh kooram aagi-aa a-utraasee. By the Pleasure of His Will, He took incarnation as the great fish and the tortoise. ਕੇਸਵ ਚਲਤ ਕਰਿਹ ਿਨਰਾਲੇ ਕੀਤਾ ਲੋੜਿਹ ਸੋ ਹੋਇਗਾ ॥੮॥ kaysav chalat karahi niraalay keetaa lorheh so ho-igaa. ||8|| The Lord of beauteous hair, the Worker of miraculous deeds, whatever He wishes, comes to pass. ||8|| ਿਨਰਾਹਾਰੀ ਿਨਰਵੈਰ ੁ ਸਮਾਇਆ ॥ niraahaaree nirvair samaa-i-aa. He is beyond need of any sustenance, free of hate and all-pervading. ਧਾਿਰ ਖੇਲੁ ਚਤੁਰਭੁਜੁ ਕਹਾਇਆ ॥ Dhaar khayl chaturbhuj kahaa-i-aa. He has staged His play; He is called the four-armed Lord. ਸਾਵਲ ਸੁੰਦਰ ਰੂਪ ਬਣਾਵਿਹ ਬੇਣੁ ਸੁਨਤ ਸਭ ਮੋਹੈਗਾ ॥੯॥ saaval sundar roop banaaveh bayn sunat sabh mohaigaa. ||9|| He assumed the beautiful form of the blue-skinned Krishna; hearing His flute, all are fascinated and enticed. ||9|| ਬਨਮਾਲਾ ਿਬਭੂਖਨ ਕਮਲ ਨੈਨ ॥ banmaalaa bibhookhan kamal nain. He is adorned with garlands of flowers, with lotus eyes. ਸੁੰਦਰ ਕੁੰਡਲ ਮੁਕਟ ਬੈਨ ॥ sundar kundal mukat bain. His ear-rings, crown and flute are so beautiful. ਸੰਖ ਚਕਰ੍ ਗਦਾ ਹੈ ਧਾਰੀ ਮਹਾ ਸਾਰਥੀ ਸਤਸੰਗਾ ॥੧੦॥ sankh chakar gadaa hai Dhaaree mahaa saarthee satsangaa. ||10|| He carries the conch, the chakra and the war club; He is the Great Charioteer, who stays with His Saints. ||10|| ਪੀਤ ਪੀਤੰਬਰ ਿਤਰ੍ਭਵਣ ਧਣੀ ॥ peet peetambar taribhavan Dhanee. The Lord of yellow robes, the Master of the three worlds. ਜਗੰਨਾਥੁ ਗੋਪਾਲੁ ਮੁਿਖ ਭਣੀ ॥ jagannaath gopaal mukh bhanee. The Lord of the Universe, the Lord of the world; with my mouth, I chant His Name. ਸਾਿਰੰਗਧਰ ਭਗਵਾਨ ਬੀਠੁਲਾ ਮੈ ਗਣਤ ਨ ਆਵੈ ਸਰਬੰਗਾ ॥੧੧॥ saaringDhar bhagvaan beethulaa mai ganat na aavai sarbangaa. ||11|| The Archer who draws the bow, the Beloved Lord God; I cannot count all His limbs. ||11|| ਿਨਹਕੰਟਕੁ ਿਨਹਕੇਵਲੁ ਕਹੀਐ ॥ nihkantak nihkayval kahee-ai. He is said to be free of anguish, and absolutely immaculate. ਧਨੰਜੈ ਜਿਲ ਥਿਲ ਹੈ ਮਹੀਐ ॥ Dhananjai jal thal hai mahee-ai. The Lord of prosperity, pervading the water, the land and the sky.
  9. Thanks N30S1NGH, that's great and that's a great way to interpret it also. Much appreciated, not too sure why people are so afraid of references to Durga then if this is how it all links! Great.
  10. Thanks N30S1NGH just seen your post, that's great information. Much appreciated. Is it correct in saying then that Durga/Kirpan/adi shakti are all the same just represented in different ways i.e sargun and nirgun and therefore an aspect of Akaal purkh but they're all the same thing at the end?
  11. Thank you singh598, I haven't but will now, much appreciated. And to sikhiseeker that's a beautiful way of explaining it, so just like bir ras and shant ras. Thank you.
  12. DeccanSingh Ji *have read those previously, but still not yet found answers to my above questions. Sorry about the two part message Ji, I have never used these sites. Thank you.
  13. The best pro sikh clothing is dastaar and bana
  14. Scali Ji just trying to get a deeper understanding of Guru Ji's concepts and words which would make a great difference to most peoples lives hopefully. But thank you anyway. And many thanks DeccanSingh Ji, have read those.
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