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  1. Lol i'm not Jagsaw... Are you a Sikh? Just wondering. I suppose you could say he is attacking her feminity. Lol I'm not going to waste anymore time on this. More importantly, just more proof politicians of India deep rooted in anti-sikh activities.
  2. No no what I'm saying is jagsaw didn't so much mean the hair comment as an attack on woman feminity. But he is just expressing his extreme dislike for her because of her attacks on Sikhs. I am completely confident jagsaw believe woman and men are equal.
  3. Surat Singh Khalsa has gone on Hunger Strike for the release of Sikh political prisoners at village Hassanpura near Ludhiana. Bapu Surat has entered day 6th of his hunger strike and said he will continue the campaign started by Bhai Gurbaksh for the release of Sikh political prisoners. He added that he is committed and will not disgrace his faith in his Sikhi. Bhai Surat Singh has started his hunger strike because he had said if Bhai Gurbaksh’s hunger strike gets sabotaged then he will start his own. Previously, police had detained him twice and now his hunger strike has been started at his home village Hasanpura. Bapu Ji says he’s in full chardi kala and will continue his hunger strike until Sikh political prisoners are returned. https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=327876080738191
  4. What do you think of bedi. Truth5../ Jagsaw was joking around about her hair. Chill out.
  5. What we have to get people to understand is that the government treats Sikhs like second class citizens in terms of law.
  6. MY MEETING WITH BHAI JAGTAR SINGH TARA (hours before his extradition) By: Moninder Singh Very recently, I took the opportunity to go and see Bhai Jagtar Singh Tara after his arrest. To me, this was a major figure in the last 20 years and somebody I would likely never meet again, so I booked a ticket and went to Bangkok, Thailand as quickly as I could. What I am sharing with you is only a glimpse of my personal interaction. I arrived in Bangkok, Thailand on Friday morning January 16, 2015 at 10:40am and had retrieved my bags and was walking out of airport by 11:15am. I grabbed a taxi and went straight to a hotel I had booked near Bangkok Remand Prison to drop my bags off (was in the hotel for a maximum of 5 minutes) and then was back in taxi and arrived at Bangkok Remand prison at 12:45pm. Visits at the prison are in 20 minute blocks (that is the maximum you can meet for). My paperwork was completed and I was told I could meet Bhai Jagtar Singh Tara in room #9 from 2:30-2:50pm, which is the last meeting block of the day. I went into room #9 at 230pm and nobody came. A few minutes later 4 officers were discussing something outside the room and I asked them if there was a problem and one of them said I can't see him and should leave. I tried to be friendly and ask that I be allowed to see him since my paperwork was in order but they were not listening. I am very thankful that I didn't give in to the voice that was trying to remind me that I was in a country under a Military coup and that I should drop the issue and walk away. I then raised my voice so others could here me stating I was a Canadian citizen that had arrived after 18 hours in transit and came straight here after confirming with the jail authorities that I would be allowed to see him. More officers came out and after 15-20 minutes of banter they told me to sit in visiting area and wait. At 3:10pm they told me to once again go to room #9 and I went in and sat down and almost immediately Bhai Jagtar Singh was slowly coming down the hall. He was wrapped in chains around his legs and hands and both were tied together so he had to shuffle his feet to move. My first eye contact with him brought a deep sadness within me at the state of where our jujharus are but on his face was a glowing smile. He struggled quite obviously to walk but that smile never left his face. Very quickly I had a change of heart. Our jujharus are in chardi kala even in these instances and its often people like me on the other side of the bars that need a reality check. I have never questioned why after 20 years of the Sikh militancy slowing down individuals like this still exist amongst us and the reason I have never questioned is quite simple: ਮੋ ਹਰ ਤੁਰਕ ਕੀ ਸਿਰ ਧਰੇ ਲੋਹ ਲਗਾਵੈ ਚਰਨ One who bows his head to an enemy and surrenders his sword at his feet ਕਹੈ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਸਿੰਘ ਸੁਣੋ ਲਾਲ ਜੀ ਫਿਰ ਫਿਰ ਹੋਏੇ ਤਸਿ ਮਰਨ ॥ Gobind Singh says, “Listen Lal Jee, the souls of these individuals will not find peace" I asked, almost naively, how he felt at going back to India under the police and at this he actually laughed and said "jo 95 vich saade naal keetha...otho hunn jaada kee kar lain ge? Koyee mere vich darr naee...haa Sikh Sangat noo jaroor kaina ke saade vaaste...samooh jujharu veera vaaste...naale samooh sikh shaheeda vaaste ardasa karn...ehde naal jo vee hove ga ohnoo guru da hukam mann ke age vadhoo ga." (What they did to me in 1995...what more can they do to me now? I have no fear within me...but do ask the Sikh nation to do Ardas for me...for all jujharus still fighting...and for all those who are already shaheeds...with your prayers I will be able to accept whatever is to come as the will of the Guru and move forward.) ਮਨ ਰੇ ਸਚੁ ਮਿਲੈ ਭਉ ਜਾਇ ॥ Fear departs by attaining Truth I asked him what he thought of the current struggle and how he felt it could be moved forward. He smilingly said "Ik legal kam karn vala insaan oh kam kare, ik human rights vich kam karn vala insaan oh kam kare, ik dharm parchar karn vaala insaan oh kam kare...te Bhai sahib...ik kharku noo apna kam karn do. Saariya da ik maksat hove ta apne apne raa...par saare raa iko manzil val vadhan. Ik dujhe dee latha naa kicho ke saare Panthic soch rakhan vaale iko kam karn. Harek maidhaan vich saanu eh soch dee lorr hai." (Somebody who works within the legal field should support the panth in that field. Somebody who works within the human rights field should support the panth in that field. Somebody who does religious sermons and instruction should support the panth in that field...and brother...let a revolutionary militant do their job as well. All of them will have separate paths but they will ultimately end at the same destination. Don't pull each other back by thinking that everyone with a panthic soch needs to be doing the exact same thing. We need revolutionary zeal and thought in every battle field.) ਸਿਖ ਹੋਏੇ ਬਿਨ ਲੋਹ ਜੋ ਫਿਰੈ Being a Sikh if one goes around without being armed, ਆਵਤ ਜਾਵਤ ਜਨਮੇਮਰੇ ॥ Their soul will never find peace. I left the meeting at 340pm and watched him shuffle away in chains until he went around the corner and sadly (these are the only words that come to me) he never took his eyes off me as he moved away...smiling understandingly and strengthening my position as he did. Standing in a Thai prison with my hands folded together with armed guards around us both it made my resolve for Khalistan even stronger. It made me realize the narrative of "by any means necessary" which I have been pushing in lectures and seminars is correct because I'm only talking it but these Singhs are walking it. By all reports he was removed for extradition by 4:45pm and I was the last one to see him and I am thankful for the opportunity. It is meetings with individuals like this that one will carry with them forever. Watching first hand the defiance of an individual wrapped in chains and smiling while knowing the fate that awaits them is deeply saddening for me as well as immensely empowering and inspirational. Looking into the eyes of an individual and trying to understand what their hopes and dreams at a young age must have been is a difficult task, but we must make them human. If they are human then they are like us...they have dreams like us...they long for their loved ones like us...they cry for the ones they have lost like us. This limitation of "jhabar da mukabla sabar naal" (we will challenge oppression with patience) is becoming overbearing. When it comes to Guru Granth and Guru Panth its patience, but if someone walked into our home and grabbed a loved one by the hair and began dragging them away would it be patience then? It sounds very emotional, but it's a valid question. In the last 5 years we have seen multiple Sikhs shot in the streets of Punjab and burned alive as political prisoners in jail but we keep patience? Gurdwaras and Guru Granth Sahib saroops being burned and disrespected and we keep patience? When Sikhs protest the against Deras in Punjab they are shot and then the shooters are provided Police protection and we still keep patience? Until when is this "sabar" going to continue to make us complacent, ineffective and force us to stand at the doors of our oppressors demanding "Justice" by mostly useless means? Whoever says the fight is with the pen today should be shut up. This is a fight for the existence of a nation of people and their way of life. In a personal fight I would use a rock, a stick, my f'n shoelace to strangle someone if I'm in danger and Guru Granth and Guru Panth deserve even more. If I'm writing with a pen or stabbing an oppressor in the neck with it its my right that Guru Gobind Singh gave me when I'm left with no options. I'm not running into the streets to do it, but I'm not going to stand idle and watch a kaum of spiritual warriors become passive gandhists that work within the framework of western society over the soch and instruction of their Guru. Who are begging at the doors of imperialists and colonialists who won't throw them a scrap...and why would you want that scrap anyway? At what price would it come? If you can't imagine Guru Gobind Singh standing in Delhi knocking on Aurangzebs door with a report on human rights violations in his hand and a sign around his neck that says "Sikhs demand justice" then maybe we need to re-look at why we have chosen this approach. I'm more than sure it's because of our personal weakness to actually commit to sangarsh and its harsh realities and how that would affect our day to day maya infused lifestyles. With Bhai Jagtar Singh Tara we are talking about a Sikh who played his role in the assassination of an individual responsible for a bounty system on the heads of Sikh youth which resulted in the extra-judicial murder of 10s of thousands of Sikhs across Punjab. We are talking about a Sikh who along with Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara tunnelled out of a maximum security prison to continue the sangarsh the Sikh Panth committed to in 1986 in the form of Khalistan. We are talking about a Sikh who immediately took up the armed struggle again when he escaped and for the better part of a decade has been trying to engage the Indian state. We are talking about a modern day hero for the Sikh nation who does not need our sympathy, but rather needs us to reflect on the soch of the Gurus and puraatan Sikhs and ensure our approach to this movement is not diluted based on our own fears of what sangarsh will cost us. ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ਗਾਖੜੀ ਸਿਰੁ ਦੀਜੈ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਇ ॥ ਸਬਦਿ ਮਰਹਿ ਫਿਰਿ ਨਾ ਮਰਹਿ ਤਾ ਸੇਵਾ ਪਵੈ ਸਭ ਥਾਇ ॥ It is very difficult to serve (to follow the Guru’s Word) the True Guru; one has to offer their head, and eradicate self-conceit. One who dies in the Shabad (realization of truth or sach), they never have to die again as their service is totally approved. KHALISTAN ZINDABAD I would also like to make some additional comments on my shirt trip to Thailand. Many people are questioning what transpired in Thailand with those on the ground. I would personally like to say that Sikhs For Justice played an extremely commendable role in defending Bhai Jagtar Singh Tara. They entered a battlefield that most Sikhs these days stay far away from. They worked as quickly as they could and came up against huge odds which were impossible to overcome. They could not have done anything more in this situation. Sikhs from the UK were also on hand supporting the process and it is very appreciated what this entire team did for the Panth and Bhai Jagtar Singh Tara. I have been asked by multiple people as to what transpired on the ground and I have mentioned many times that I was not involved at all in the work done by all these Singhs. I commend them for the excellent effort, time and energy they gave right to the end, but representatives for Sikhs For Justice or other Singhs on the ground who watched everything unravel can answer questions around legal process much better than me. My writing this piece was more for how I felt in this 20-30 minute meeting with Bhai Jagtar Singh Tara and how my resolve for Khalistan had strengthened from it.
  7. Are you in Us? Canada? Uk? Usually These Sikhs do not usually look at Caste.
  8. isolation turned into desperation, Gurdeep Singh, crying, recounted to Balbir Singh: “It was not the prisoner life that was the biggest hardship I faced, but not being able to take care of my everyday needs- these needs were basic things, such as clean under garments, clothes, a toothbrush, soap, a turban to keep his head covered, footwear..."
  9. Outside sangat can certainly fund pind parchar.... What panthic names come to mind that we can contact. ?
  10. After the article spread, A Dharm Yudh Morcha Situation will be easier to arrange. Mostly it will be in the streets and court arrests though wouldn't it, in the 80s Sant Ji could make speechs at Akal Takht Sahib.
  11. I just don't see us being able to organize something like that though. They are too oppressive forces in Punjab, I think if we get the memorandum thing going. They will being to squirm. Ill get a rough Draft Going.
  12. Piyare Khalsa Ji, We can do this. The Uranium Pollution perhaps will take a lot more planning but as far as the the speaking out against Badal, SGPC, and our false Jathedars, we can bring that to Online Social Media, and submit it to our local Gurughars, and get memorandums passed through the communities which can also be spread on the internet. I am down to write the Articles, I'm Sure you guys can help it. Once the news spreads it will keep going. Some places we can put the news that come to mind are Sikh24. DailySikhUpdates, PunjabSpectrum, Daily Ajit, Jagbani, Punjabi Tribune, Daily Punjab TImes, Punjab Spectrum, all over Facebook Pages. (Please suggest more means to spread) I can get a rough Draft going with you guys.. Baisically it stats that Worldwide Sangat is boycotting SGPC for a panthic leader chosen by Sarbat Khalsa, Boycotting BADAL Stating his many crimes. (Going to Ram Rahim, Putting Sant Jarnail SIngh Ji Khalsa Bhindranwale's words against him into text, Drugs. (), Boycotting ALL DERA, Submit these articles to ALL Jathebandis, (Nihang Singhs, Buddha Dal, Tarna Dal, Etc. Damdami Taksaal, AKJ, MIssionaries,) Stating that do they stand with the PANTH? If yes Back up the ARticle. Please reply all who can help.
  13. I just don't think we can depend on politicians, you idea is good and something we can do. But I'm Leaning towards a DHARM YUDH MORCHA type actions. Told you man. Ignore his attacks to Bhai Khalsa's Movement.
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