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Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala Darshan Das himself stated on many, many occasions not to refer to him with any status e.g. as a Sant/ Guru. Firstly i would like to point out to all that are apart of this discussion that disrespecting others for whatever belief they follow, who are we to judge whether something is right or wrong only the almighty God can identify. Many of us are aware of how globally fundamental religious groups have broken down basic respect for all God’s creation. Think back to Sept 11th after this many Sikhs were targeted because of their appearance (the beard and the turban)…. Why because Muslim’s have beards and they also wear a turban. Just because the identity was similar did it mean the actions of these men would be the same?? – No it all came down to JUDGEMENT……. I am not highly aware of many things the holy Gurus in Sikhism had done but I am aware they had struggles throughout the line of Guru Jee’s, some were captured, some were attached – my point is that others thought they knew better and tried to bring these Holy Saints down – but the truth overcame all of this and these Holy Gurus who fought these battles are our living proof that man has no judgement over a believer in God. If an individual embraces in SadhSangat then this individual becomes united with All. Without Sangat their, would be no Gurus not Saint’s, no Prophets, no Devi/Devte. Humanity has broken the link of uniting with Sangat the home of where a Guru resides. Das Dharam was created by Darshan Das Ji as a centre for people who wanted to mix with all walks of life under one umbrella this umbrella is of Humanity – Thus using the holy word from the Guru Granth Sahib Ji “Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala” “In the Name of the Almighty Do Something Good For Somebody Else In Your Life”. Seva – seva can only be attained when one acts doing a selfless deed, Das Dharam is a centre where Seva & Sadhsangat are held in the highest esteem. Quote singh_comradz”and what is a joke is that his puppet of a son is now going on the same level, maharaz tarlochan das or whatever your call him. hey maybe i'll put a white dastaar and chola on, you gonna start worshipping me..” I think your source of facts is incorrect Tarlochan Darshan Das Ji has not placed himself on any level but only to do a service (Seva), there is not just one way of doing seva e.g. serving Langar, cleaning our temples/ churches, dropping an old lady home so she doesn’t have to catch a bus at night (you get my point)/ singing hymns etc. These are all forms of seva, Tarlochan Darshan Das Ji is doing a seva of talking about Saint’s and God this is regarded as seva that any individual can do, but it is only classed as a seva when there is SadhSangat. As I have stated before Judgement is only for the Almighty to decide. From the teachings of my Guru I have learnt to respect all of Gods creation. If I go past a Hindu/ Sikh/ Christian/ Muslim/ Buddhist temple I will bow my head with respect. If many of you follow politics the thing Tony Blair has Started is that the policy of RESPECT. This I personally think is not for the youth but for all to have a think about? So what Darshan Das Ji started Das Dharam – how many billions of people live in this world and very few individuals discriminate someone for their belief – where is the peaceful humanitarian democracy? – we have governments who try to take control, why as God beloveds and believers do we say ones belief is wrong because they don’t follow what you do? Also Darshan Das/ Tarlochan Das/ Ds Dharam have never slandered the Holy Guru’s of Sikhism or any other Holy saints or Holy Prophets. Quote singh_comradz kUkr kUVu kmweIAY gur inMdw pcY pcwnu ] kookar koorr kamaaeeai gur ni(n)dhaa pachai pachaan || Those who practice falsehood are dogs; those who slander the Guru shall burn in their own fire. Again the Holy Almighty will judge this – if you believe that Darshan Das was as such – you yourself are practicing a false hood of hatred to a believer of God. Another small point that I was taught at Infant age was “if I have nothing good to say about anyone, don’t say anything at all” I think it’s probably the best advice I was given. If we can not do or say any Good then why say and do anything Bad. Apologies if I have said anything to offend anyone. I believe that God is my Guru and is my only guide I can not discuss fact or fiction for people who are not willing to put negativity aside. God Bless all With Love and Peace – if not world peace then peace within ones soul. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala 145988[/snapback] Dear Sangat Ji, NANAK NAAM CHARDI KALA TERE BHANE SARBAT DA BHALA "In the name of the supreme power, do something for someone else in your life" The above Quotation applies to all his creation, and doesnt define my religion. My message goes to both Nanak Dham and Sikh sangat. After many years I have come across this topic again, thinking that it had died down, and cant believe that this issue still exists. This isnt an issue on god, but out of spitefullness and embarressment towards both sides. There isnt no winner, and no final result. Mahraz Darshan Das was a leader of his movement. Whoever knew him well enough, from the heart, doesnt need to pour out his/her feelings or teachings to anyone, on any website. For you know the truth in you own hearts and have your own common sense. NO HUMAN can change that. Dont put your leaders name down, by wasting energy on unneccessary topics. If people want to watch satsang on tv, it is entirely their choice. You dont need to promote, or emphasise this at all. Make this clear to yourselves. If Nanak Dham holds value, its time will show in the near future. If your leader was true, then your mission will flourish automatically, without the need to advertise, or "attract" sangat. If the sangat who go by the name of "sikhi" believe that the 10 gurus are "yours" and yours only, then so be it. If you believe that God only came down then, then you are saying that only "sikhi" is the way forward, and that all other religions are false. If Singh means that you are sikh, then all the mughals who had "singh" after their names, are truly "yours" aswell. The 10 gurus either had "rai" or "dev" at the end of their names, not singh. If "sikh" means warrior, or brave, then it isnt a religion, but an identity given to the 5 pyaare who were hindustani, to tackle the injustice in India. If you believe that you are the most purest, and their is no such thing as a "living guru", then may god bless your mission, your ways and to stay pure in you own belief. Each side isnt going to win any kingdomship of countries or nations. Dont start these fires again. Just to show the mentality of people today....read the responses after I have left this post and website alltogether. Nanak Naam Chardi Kala Tere Bhane Sarbat Da Bhala