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Oh, one more thing before I go, Mr Cameron, do the right thing now and become a Sikh; start speaking the Truth. Wear a Pugg and you will notice your Pugg will not allow you to tell lies!!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/david-camerons-former-strategy-guru-claims-he-would-back-brexit/

You mean a proper Amrittary Sikh, surely? No point in becoming a Sikh if you haven't embraced the Teachings of the Sikh Gurus.

Yes, I am 100 % certain, everyone is aware of this.

It would be nice to know how to define a British sikh or any Sikh for that matter!

A Sikh is a person who either wears a turban, drinks and eats meat like no ones business or 'it' can be without a turban and does not drink or eat meat!

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I never liked the NL. I like Nick Clegg, Michael Gove, Helle Thorning Schmidt, Jeremy Corbyn, David Beckham, Tom Watson, Padma Lakshmi, Li Keqiang, Eric Liddell,and John Mcdonell but I don't like Osbourne or Cameron, Augustine Matata Poniyo, Badal, Lars L Rasmussen, Bill Clinton, Modi, Giada De Laurentiis, Madhur Jaffery, Delia Smith or Bush Junior!!

As far as Boris Johnson is concerned, I find him hilarious. The only problem is his hair! He has too much of it and it is all over the place! He needs a good hairdresser or in my opinion, he should wear a Pugg to keep it nice and tidy!

I sometimes wonder how does he know where he is going with his hair all over the place especially when it is covering his eyes? Just imagine a PM who can't see properly leading the country. Come on Boris...... do the right thing and wear a Sikh Pugg, I say!!!!!!!!!!!

Good heavens!! This is a very impressive list of people you 'like' and 'don't like' even though they are not all politicians or even British!! What about Putin, Shinzo Abe, Desmond Tuttu, Geoffrey Chaucer and Charles Dickens? Where do they fit in, in your 'like and don't like' list? It would be interesting to know the answer, clever clogs!

what a nice way of talking with ur fellow sikh.

thanks a lot

It was totally out of order to speak to you this way. Sorry, won't happen again.

there has to be a moving takht.

If we believe in 5 stationary takhts, there will be problem. We will need to open new takhts in Europe, America,Canada,Australia,kenya etc etc.

You are completely out of your mind. How are you going to achieve this without complete unanimity from every section of the Panth?

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Sikhojaago, is not refuting this. She/he is laying huge emphasis on the discipline shaaster Vidya provides.

Globalisation has benefitted some countries not all.

The animals are regularly given antibiotics and hormones which still must be there when they are slaughtered for meat eaters.

Really, since when?

Globalisation of the world is not recent, why did no one complain earlier?

I went on one of the links you provided, came back to respond but notice you have deleted the remaining ones. I am not sure why?

Sikhs and guns?? We can't even handle a Sri Sahib because of lack of self discipline, let alone guns! I mean, we only have to remember what happens in our gurdwarehs when the committees can't settle a dispute!!! It was so shameful to read in the newspapers last year what happened at the Golden Temple in Amritsar where a bunch of self proclaiming singhs got involved in a conflict with another bunch of self proclaiming singhs!! The world witnessed an ugly scene at the holiest shrine of the Sikhs! This is not how Guru's Singhs behave. Possessing weapons without self discipline is a horrendously dangerous thing! SHASTAR VIDIYA provides that discipline ESPECIALLY when this VIDIYA is accompanied with the DASAM GRANTH BAANIES!!! There is no point in carrying weapons if you don't have MENTAL discipline, most so called Amritdarries are wearing Sri Sahibs without even stepping on the Shastar Vidiya training floor!!! They have no knowledge of SV, not even a clue! Shocking!

Discipline goes hand in hand with shastra vidiya. It is important for all sikhs who have taken the Amrit to learn shastra vidiya in my opinion.

Then why are they teaching school children about Aliens, if it is that scary? I was watching The Alien Agenda by Simon Parkes 2015 on YouTube. After 28 minutes or more he is very clearly telling people what they are teaching young children regarding this! Surely, it can't be all that scary, can it?

I am not going to post the link for the sake of keeping peace here on this forum. But, if anyone is interested they can just Google it by typing The Alien Agenda, Simon Parkes 2015(conspiracies). In fact, it can also be found in the same link posted by the OP.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh! Recently I was seeing something related to Sikhi, just to see what many people actually thought, and I noticed a lot of false information about Sikhs in general, (especially some of whom called themselves Sikhs), a lot of it had to do with Hinduism surprisingly. Why is education for Sikhi this awful? (Do the Pracharks in India not do anything?) Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

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Even if they did, no one will take them seriously.

Very informative work of art.

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Does anyone know which painting I'm talking about? I've been trying to find it for some reason. Would appreciate if anyone could post it here.

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No, I don't know which painting you are referring to. Besides, how do you know he was listening to classical music? Did the painting have a date and signature of the artist at the bottom? Can you describe the style, ambience, colours, mood, light, movement and general impression of this famous work of art a bit more? Was this painting trying to communicate a message of some kind to its viewers? What kind of feelings, if any, did the painting evoke within you? Was the Nihang Singh old, young, slim or fat? Did he look mysterious or enigmatic in any way? Did he appear charismatic in his countenance? Was it a very leafy, tall, fruit-bearing tree or was it just an ordinary tree? Did the tree look august in its appearance, as though it had been standing there for years and years? Was he sitting with a radio next to him with headphones on which made you think he was listening to classical music? Can you remember the make of the radio and the headphones so we can ascertain the exact date of this famous work? Let's assume for one minute that he was in fact listening to classical music, then the question arises, who was he listening to? Was he listening to Bach, Chopin, Vivaldi or just Mozart? Did the painting give you any hint as to the time of the day or not? Was this Nihang Singh sitting alone, did he have company or was he surrounded by many people but all strangers? Did he have a far away look in his eyes, as though he is day-dreaming? Were you able to see any birds' nests anywhere on the branches of this tree? If so,, what kind of birds were flying around, can you remember? Does the painting depict clear blue sky, sky with rainbow, sky with small grey clouds or just plain boring sky painted in one brush stroke with the sun missing altogether? I am totally puzzled as to which painting you are referring to? I wonder if it really exists?

Agreed. We should have welcome Dr Ambedkar into Sikhi . He was the leader of 60 million Dalits. Also Columbia and Oxford graduate Lawyer, economist and an intelligent political leader. Maharaja Bhupinder Singh even offered him to marry his sister to show his sincerity. Bhupinder Singh represented India at the League of Nations in 1925, and was chancellor of the Indian Chamber of Princes for 10 years between 1926 and 1938, also being a representative at the Round Table Conference. He had considerable influence with the British. In the first round table conference in London Dr Ambedkar was able to convince them separate electorate for the so-called Untouchables. The Muslims already had a separate electorate which later helped them get Pakistan. Too bad Sikhs got duped by Bania Gandhi and Bhaman Nehru.

I would have done so had I been there in 1947. I have nothing against highly respected Dr Ambekar. He was a well liked highly educated man with plenty of wisdom. He was a visionary.

No, for the simple reason that apnaay are idiots.

Think back to partition in 1947. Lobbying for Pakistan on behalf of the Muslims was Muhammad Ali Jinnah, a University of London educated Lawyer. Representing the Hindus was the Cambridge graduate and barrister Jawaharlal Nehru. And who did we Sikhs have representing us? Some semi-literate Baba educated no further than his Oora Airaas behind the village cowshed - the sort of person we continue to elect to this day, fools that we are. Is it any wonder that the British administrators who were dissecting the subcontinent took one look at us, decided we were not serious contenders for a nation of our own, and threw us out of the equation altogether? Or that the Hindus continue to assume, correctly I think, that we are all brawn and no brains?

The strength of our Sikhi is important, but believing that this alone is necessary to create Khalistan is naive. The Sikhs of the 1940s weren't lacking in Sikhi, but this wasn't enough to stop them from being screwed over was it? The most important thing we can do for Khalistan is to educate ourselves and our children in as many disciplines of the world as we can, so that we can raise up some credible representatives for the Sikh cause to replace the simple-minded old men who currently occupy every position in the Sikh world.

Behind every modern people's revolution, the French, the Russian, the American, were intellectuals and men/women of great learning.

The right time to ask for a separate state for the Sikhs was in 1947!

Bro theres no point discussing/mentioning NWO/secret societies/13 bloodlines of the Illuminati on sikhsangat, most ppl here will just laugh/mock u, bcoz they think its all bollox conspiracies, without doing any research. The american presidency itself is all a sham too. The president is selected, NOT elected.

I know. Thanks anyway.

There is no fun in being colonized or conquered. In previous centuries nations were colonized with the help of armies, present day colonization is different. Nowadays, media plays a vital role when conquering peoples' minds and how they live. Conquering people's minds into submission or subjugation has far reaching and highly damaging results. For instance, people are mimicking the west without questioning or reasoning. They are losing their ethnic/national identities in trying to fit in with global/one identity, which is a sole creation of New World Order. Soon there will be one religion too to fit in with the NWO.

Now that you have mentioned this, let me explain to you why?

If you are a westerner, no matter, if you a sikh or not, we Punjabi sikh men have a very ugly inane habit of placing you females on a 'PEDESTAL' if you know what I mean. Our own then become second class to you!! But you already know that, dont' you? This is the reason, your sikh friends were ignored, because you stole the show! We men feel very flattered to be with one of you! We feel even more chuffed when we greet you because of the attention we get when you answer hehe......................it becomes even more interesting when one of us penddu Punjabi sikh marries one of you, there is a lot of hoo ha..........and WAH JI WAH.....when this happens. Put this all down to our inferiority complex but it is soooo very, very, very accurate and correct. I have many friends that will only go after the white females and look down on their own, they feel they are achieving the unachievable, something great when they finally manage to date one. So, whether your friends were baptised singhees or not, no punjabi sikh will greet them. Nothing to do with showing respect or shyness on the part of sikh males. If the color is right the greeting is dancing upon their lips, but only for a western female, I mean, white!! Do you now get the full picture?

PLEASE, stick to your own culture and try to learn as much about sikhism as you can. You don't want to be following the punjabi culture unless you wanna be placed on a pedestal and worshiped like God. It is pathetic, I know, but the truth has to be told. Enjoy your rights and freedoms as a westerner, why do you want to compromise, what for? You can lead a spiritual life on your own with the help of vaheguru.

I am sure you already know everything I have told you. I have heard many westerns say they get treated like God by our people when they visit their local gurdwaras with sikh friends. Special treatment, in other words. I have never heard vice-versa of this phenomenon lol!

This is not true for every single Sikh man, might be for some. White people already know this, no need to keep repeating it.