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a SARBAT kHALSA IN EUROPE?!!! Idea looks attractive , but how the majority Sikh Diaspora view will be reflected ? if organised to discuss issues & problems of Brit Sikh Diaspora or by the community in europe , it is good but Global meet , i feel not feasible

sarbat khalsa must represent worldwide sikh groups.

Would be pointless without major jathe from india (so I wont vote).

Where it happens isn't important. But by default it probably must have to be punjab.

I would like to see some info on format/protocols of historical sarbat khalse meetings.

Totally a dream that will never happen in my life but it would be good if a large council chamber could be built in amritsar/anandpur to hold this Annually.

I wish something like this would happen

If we had Panj Pyare who are chosen by the panth to run things in each country, like the exact same system they had in punjab where they meet every 6-months. We could progress so much quicker, and get things sorted out instead of people arguing.

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Let's all comment advice here.. Then comment the link of this thread on the other site.

Good idea thanks

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Link to original question

Satsangat Ji, a brother needs help on another forum which isn't that active. He says he is fed up and want to cut his hair and even might commit suicide.

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His question:

i know that the title of my question will be annoying to you but after facing numerous problems in my life, i have to say that i hate you god. he knows everything but he is still not helping me, he is just watching at me laughing. so that's why i have decided not to follow your path. my mom was wrong who was teaching me that try your best and rest leave to god because now i have finally concluded that there is no god, and by mistake if there is any thing in this world like god then i can respectfully say that that thing always favors and help the bad people. that thing named god always mug the innocent people and make them to suffer a lot. the rich is becoming more richer day by day and poor people like me are loosing money everyday and are becoming more poorer day by day.

i am soo sorry but i am writing all this because now i am fed up from my life. i don't want to live anymore now. even after praying a lot, doing ardaas, paath, listening kirtans and doing good karmas what i am getting is only failure everywhere. i even cry everyday in front of babaji to sort out my problems which i have been facing from last two years and please bless me but the result and the response i am getting is only a zero.

its been more than an year for me living in New Zealand and still i can say that i am useless with no job. people are earning a lot of money everyday, their bank accounts are very heavy. they have paid back their student loans. they are living a luxurious life and they are all happy. even the students including girls who came this year have earned more money than me. the girl whom i liked said to me that u r useless, u have spent one year and u earn only $250 a week. boy who came here last week has started earning $1000 a week. everyone have got good jobs because their family members have helped them a lot and the most strange thing about these rich guys are that all of them have cut down their hair. they visit gurudwara but don't maintain their kesh. no one helped me here. i was alone, i struggled a lot but still i am a loser. i have no money left in my bank a/c now. my student loan amount is increasing day by day. the world is earning money everyday but my ******* life sucks me. i don't know whether i would be able to complete my degree or not ? whether i would be able to pay my rent and other expenses, whether i would be able to live in this world or not ? i have just became a burden on my parents and i have decided that i will suicide if my this ****** continues. i don't know why should i believe in god now. i have decided that i will cut my hair and i will tear all my turbans, i will shave my beard and i will not follow the path of guru now because even after doing a lot of bhakti, the god is favoring the cuttings then why should i be a fool to remain a useless man.

sorry, i know my words will be very harsh to you but honestly god is not helping me even after practicing gurbani and now i am fed up from my life...

Please forgive me if i missed to cut out any swear words.

I honestly think its better for foreign sikhs to spend more energy fighting for a sarbat khalsa to select its leadership then begging for justice from those in bed with the terrorist indian state.

It will happen but its question of how much we will have lost before getting our own leaders in place.

Totally agree with you. We need to set and an example here.

Note sure what this means - Does anyone know what being a world heritage site will mean for Harmandir Sahib?

From the petiton:

To declare Harmandar Sahib as a heritage site is highly shocking to the entire Sikh community. This place belongs to the Sikh community and it is not the right of anyone to take it over. The present generation Sikh community is looking after Sri Harmandar Sahib very well and it stands as the most important place of Sikhs and Sikhism.

The take-over of Sri Harmandar Sahib is an absolute infringement of fundamental rights of Sikhs and a challenge to the religious freedom of the Sikh community. It is also construed as an interference in the internal matters of the Sikhs. This move also violates many of the Articles as laid out in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights by UNO.

The Sikh community does not endorse the consideration of Sri Harmandar Sahib as a Heritage site by the Indian Government to UNESCO / UN. This move has not been done by involving the Sikh community but has been silently done without sharing information about it to the Sikh community. In fact, it stands as a complete deceit to the entire Sikh community by offering away the rights of our holiest shrine.

http://dailysikhupdates.com/17-reasons-to-prevent-sri-darbar-sahib-from-being-unesco-heritage-site/ Check this link out

Waheguru

I appreacite the support, brothers and sisters.

Its first time since I've heard such kind words.

I don't know how but in my area lot of people seem to know who i am and some have approached my parents.

My parents have had a long word with me and people who came.

I am going to give it second try in life as a Khalsa.

Im still feeling down but people who came to my house said they will help me come round that but will take step at a time.

Your words ment a lot, I wish I could hug you guys , its nice to know people out there care, you have reminded me i have massive Khalsa family.

Love you guys and thank you for caring.

Bro make an account if you can, and join the sangat on here.

Just how nice and helpful people on here are cheers me up, and makes me grateful to be a sikh.

Yes that's great check out the videos too

Will do. Thank you

Stop forcing yourself doing it.

Where did Guru Ji say to force yourself to do paath? Whats the point of just reciting it if you aren't going to spend time to understand the words and connect with bani?

This is a game of love. You can't win this game by trying to force yourself. Allow yourself to fall in love with the Guru. Build it up slowly, start only doing Japji Sahib, spend time reciting it, understand the meanings of the bani. Just work on applying Guru Ji's teaching to your life.

Bhai Gurdas Ji says "If you take one step towards the support of the Guru's feet, the Guru takes millions of steps towards you".

Bani is for us to read whenever, any time. Pick a shabad you like to recite or some kirtan and just listen to it.

I've been trying to recite Nitnem since like December, If I don't recite it I feel guilty. Shall I just slowly build up, I went from Japji Sahib to trying to do all 5. Sometimes I feel like just doing Japji Sahib and Simran in the morning. Do you think that will be acceptable ?

Thanks for the advice

try not to force yourself. from my own experience its the qualities that you put into patt that matter more than how much you do but its easy to feel guilty if you compare yourself to how much patt others are doing or feel your not doing enough. I've found that my relationship with gurbani changes. Initially doing patt was exciting and felt effortless, but over time it was more difficult to connect. Either I was rushing because I was tired, worried about getting to work on time or my mind was occupied with other things. Although I was putting time aside to do patt it wasn't quality time. When I think back to when I first doing patt I didn't focus just on the meanings - some days I connected to the meanings, other times to the beauty and poetry of the sounds of gurbani, other times to the blissful feelings, it happened naturally and there was no guilty feelings that I wasn't thinking of the meanings. Gurbani is so complex and has different layers and effects us on different levels. Maybe all we need to do is give Guruji our time and commitment to do patt and the rest leave in Vahegurji's hand.

Im forcing my self, and today I had the same problem. :sad2:

I'm also not feeling that same feeling I used to get.

If I don't connect to the meanings, I'll just focus on the sounds of gurbani.

Thanks for the advice

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Some times when I can't concentrate on Path, I force my self to and then my head starts hurting. Then It gets really hard to carry on.

Also I wanted to know that sometimes its difficult for me to recall meanings of banis, and then I start feeling down after I force my self to remember.

Does Guru Ji care if on somedays when this happens I just like close my eyes and recite his banis ?

Also am i right in thinking I have no power, about concentrating and remembering the meanings of banis. It will all come one day with his grace.

Also is it ok if I spread Nitnem through out the day, instead of reciting it all in one sitting?

Please forgive me if i said anything wrong offensive or wrong.

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Recently negative thoughts have been destroying me inside. I feel like these thoughts are breaking me inside.

I was so blessed by Guru Ji that over the year I was blessed with the gift of Kesh, I started to read some banis. But now I feel stuck/blocked. I can't even do Japji Sahib in less than 45 minutes, because either negative thoughts pop-up in my head, I worry about if im pronouncing Guru Ji's bani properly or Im not concentrating properly. And now doing path seems less sweet to me, It is getting harder to do.

I just don't want to fall of the path. I love Sikhi and Guru Ji but im falling now.

I can't ignore these thoughts anymore, it starting to hurt my head know.

The way i do my banis is I go on YouTube and follow to my best the word by word videos, I wish i could do them from the Gutka Sahib Ji but if I do it would take me about 45 minutes to do Japji Sahib, and I have to go study as well.

Im having so much trouble waking about at Amirt Vela, I sleep at 1am wake up and waste a lot of time in the shower thinking and getting ready I start doing path at like 11am. I sleep at 1am because, I have to study and haven't sat down and follow Guru Ji's bani so I have to do it latter. But I can't seem to sleep early and do my banis early.

My exams are coming up as well, so I really need help balancing my time.

Through out the day my mind says to say this bani for example some of the Rags from Kirtan Sohila, but it takes me ages to do say it becuase of thoughts coming in my end and me worrying about if i am saying it correctly, our if i understood the meaning. That it takes me a long time, and If i dont say it i feel guilty.

I don't know what to do. Its so hard when I don't feel like doing a bani.

I might not be able to do 5 banis properly in my life If i continue like this. And I hope Guru Ji blesses me so i can take Amirt.

Please forgive this fool, if i said anything wrong or offensive.

May Guru Ji bless you all.

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https://youtu.be/39UHadh6BnI

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This question is not being asked by me, but was posted on a different website. Heres the link

I was wondering if the Sangat here can respond to his question, as this is a more active community, and probably can answer this much better than me.

Heres is whole question:

Before you Gursikhs jump to any hateful thinking for me, let me make it very clear that I am myself a Sikh, a practicing Sikh. But looking at the traits that are being shown collectively by Majority of Sikhs in today's World. I have started wondering if Sikhs are one of the (if not the) most blasphemous people to their own faith.

Now I know I will be opposed by all you guys, but my questions are serious and extra-ordinary in the sense that these allegations are rare and not usual. This is just the way I feel, I will be thankful to all you guys who will come up with their suggestions and comments.

FIRSTLY, What I feel Sikhism has been reduced to just mere fashion such as keeping Hairs, the Joodas , wearing the turbans and showing off your faith externally and knowing literally nothing of the message that is given for "internal" purification isn't this trend so similar to the way Guru Nanak opposed the Brahmin for making him wear the Janau? Now aren't the Sikhs doing the same thing the "other way" round, Doesn't it give the simple message "Just keep hairs only then you are a true Sikh" is this what our Sikhism is all about? But nevertheless that's the extent of the limited and myopic understanding of Sikhi in our World today no one seriously cares and ponders as to what is written and said by our living Guru Shri Guru Granth Sahibji Maharaj(SGGS)and what our Guru actually demands from us in order to classify as good human being and a Gursikh.

SECONDALY, Ego. Frankly speaking hardly any effort is being made by sangats or known Gyanis to collectively work towards shedding the ego which is indeed the major obstacle in our path towards Akal Purakh and realizing our real-self. The most astonishing thing which I feel is our principles and History of Sikhi is being used as a "tool" for inflating the ego. Was SWORD given as an arm or were Sikhs armed to fight for SELFISHNESS or was it for Selfless sacrifise for sake of TRUTH? "Saade guruaan ne kurbaaniyaan diti, Hinduaan Vaaste", "Saade Purkhaan ne Dharam layi Sees Kataye", "Saade Sikh Saza-e-Kaala Pani ch Sabto zyada shaheed hoye"... I mean there has to be a line which needs to be drawn between something to be proud of & to learn and something to be felt egoistic about. May I ask all bibis and Gyanis here since when our Gurus said that be "egoistic" about their achievements. The Social sites are full of abuses towards Hindus and Vedas, Yes I know all Sikhs don't do that but how come even SOME Sikhs are motivated to use such horrendous words for Krishan, Rama, Shiv, Pravati when our Gurmatt teaches us to literally to respect all Matts and traditions.

THIRDLY, Disrespect of Dasam Granth is the most serious issue that has hardly found any attention among the debates of Sikh Scholar who are concerned about the deteriorating sociological conditions of Sikhs in everyday life. I was shocked to see the way some guys have gone to the extent of abusing Dasam Granth by saying it "kanjar Kavita" and "Sex Manual" may I ask have they ever read it once? let me tell then the beginning of Ardas is from "Chandi Di //" and Chaupai Saib, Jaap Sahib, Tavprasad Savaiye all are from the same collections of writing of Guru Gobind Singhji. This is indeed one of the most blasphemous thing of Sardars of Today who on one hand keep the rehat prescribed by Guru Gobind Singh and who are ever eager to walk on his path and hence have seen turning a fanatic and disregarding Guruji's real purpose hence they never spare even a thought before hurling Streams of invectives shamelessly.

FOURTHLY, Over emphasis of Punjabi have just made Sikhism as a religion exclusively of Punjab meant for Punjabis only. A major reason for it's ground failure is the inability of the Sikhs to mix up religious code and ethos with local culture. Since partition Sikhs have spread all over India, but instead of marketing it's ideals to non-Sikhs they have preferred to keep their faith among themselves in a closely knit society which even more surprisingly is never supportive of each other, a major portion of this blame stems from the inability to move beyond Punjabi Language and Culture. Buddhism Mixed up well with Local Cultures hence we see it emerge as a dominant force in the Eastern Part of the World. Same Goes for Christianity, the King James Bible Version was a revolutionary thing in which the Kingdom of UK had their Bible, their prayers in English in their mother tongue.

FIFTH point is Materialism as the ONLY Yardstick for the success. With the coming of the present century as the whole world deeply plunges into ignorance and materialism having least regards for the "Ideals", a religion that's found on the Ideals and has walked the path of idealism of truth, sacrifice and selfless devotion, the people practising it has completely become oblivious to it's ideals. The car, house, bank balance and all materialistic things are a measure to judge person's success on planet Earth regardless of his spiritual progress. The need has become the greed in today's World and unfortunately the practicing Sikhs aren't anymore different in their approach towards this side and their deeds. So Nothing New here too.

SIXTH major concern is continuation of Caste Practice completely banned by Kalgidhar Paatshaah and strictly a no-no as per Gurbani is another feather in the hat of blasphemous achievements of Sikhs. Many Sikhs admit to the fact that this is bad, but themselves stick to the Sub-continent's worst menace when it comes to finding a suitable match for sons and daughters. The matrimonial Sites bears a blunt testimony to the double-standards of Sikhs when I find mention of caste before the word Sikh. Example, Labana Sikh, Khatri Sikh, Jatt Sikh etc. etc. other than this Caste based Gurdwaras and Deras are worst examples of pitfalls of Castism among Sikhs I don't need to elaborate upon this.

SEVENTH and the most concerning point is the love for Alcohol, let's be fair and very very practical. The Kesadhaaris, the Turban Wearing, the Flag-bearers of Sikhi in their every social gathering alcohol is the most accepted legal norm of "Nasha" by Sikhs. No Drinks, you are actually subjected to a strange stare by others, is this what our morals have come down to that a community once associated with bravery is now associated with alcohol or rather 'champions of alcohol' by the society? Then let me ask why so much drama over Smoking Cigarettes? Was our Guru specific in banning smoking and allowing Alcohol? I mean how ridiculous all these things look and hence Sikhs are made subject to laughters and hence mocked by everyone for their stupidity. In our Panth Both are banned and strictly banned. No Smoke, No Alochol , No Drugs that's the true and ideal Sikhi

EIGHT...Do I need to Write more? Isn't this enough? Should we Sikhs not ask ourselves first that on which Path we are walking, has our poor understanding of our own faith had let us down? Are we literally walking the right path? Instead of "Kirat Karo, Naam Japo, Vand Chakho" Sikhism in today's time been reduced to "Kes Rakho, kes Rakho, Kes Rakho".. Why are we afraid to ask Questions , tough Questions? Is over Emphasis on Hairs , Keshas has distanced other faiths' people as well as our own people from Sikhism? Why don't we admit that the Rehat Maryada is next to impossible to follow in today's time? Are we afraid that "God will punish us?" Burn us in eternal Hell? How this view is any different from extreme Islamic View or Catholic view who are afraid even till date to speak anything against Church and Popes?

Please forgive me if i had said anything wrong or offensive

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http://dailysikhupdates.com/sikhs-guarded-top-3-world-leaders-video/

Check this out. Hope this helps

Edit:

Got another link

http://sikhsangat.org/2015/british-army-examines-plans-to-create-a-sikh-regiment/

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When I path/simran I get bad thoughts. I start saying bad things to Guru Ji and Gursikhs, and it distracts me and puts me off sometimes when I get a lot. It makes me feel down and I start getting headaches when I force my self to try and focus.

I feel guilty, that these thoughts are coming. When I wake up or am half asleep these thoughts come, and I feel that Guru Ji won't really love me or the Gursikhs.

Sometimes my mind says bad stuff to happen to my family or friends, I don't mean these thoughts they just come.

Is it ok if i just say Waheguru and ignore these thoughts when they come?

Any advice on how to stay strong ?

Please forgive me if i said anything or offensive

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

My friend asked me a question, saying what does it mean to remain unattached from your family. I could not answer this. But I though about this and what I think it means is to remember that your family wont go with you in the end all your bonds will break when we die. Is this what being unattached to your family means ?

I know Guru Sahib Ji wants us to live a normal life and have family, so we should love and care for our family as well right?

Please forgive me if i said anything wrong or offensive

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