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You're underestimating the Sikh objects my family has lol.

I can't do that. I ended up cutting my hair when all of this was happening, and since I put a lot of personal stuff out there, I don't want to show my face.

I can take a picture of all of the sikh stuff and write my name down? Canadianguest05?

How do I prove I am a Sikh though? I have tons of Sikhism related stuff in my house. Should I take a picture?

> I thought I told you a while back on some topic not to worry about that. (If you're thinking of future Rishtas then Vaheguru won't give you one of those people if you don't want to). You still have a lot more to live for, don't take your brain cells on an issue like this if you have a mental problem, let me tell you it's not worth it,  (if you do have these problems you claim to have).

Yeah. It's not about marriage. I don't like the way some of these Muslims target the Sikh community. Grooming and stuff.

> (if you do have these problems you claim to have).

When I was younger, I'm 25 now, one of my parents got into a major accident. I used to be so proud of being a Sikh. I wasn't super religious, but I knew so much Sikh history. I would buy books of Sikhs warriors and read those. Banda Singh Bahadur was my idol. Reading about him, it was like an action movie. (it's been so long, so sorry if these details aren't correct) how he punished Wazir Khan. Laid the foundation for Sikh rule in Punjab. How he was tortured by the Mughals. They ripped his eyes out, and he never screamed. It was so inspiring. Mesa Runger thought Sikhs had been exterminated, until he met Bhai Sukha Singh and Bhai Mehtab Singh. I wanted to be like these guys.

I was at the top of my class in highschool. My teacher was telling me to apply to harvard. Some girl that I didn't know well used to call me Mr. Prime Minister, because of how good I was with politics, debates etc.

Then mental health problems started get much, much worse. My brother tried to kill himself. I tried to kill myself. My dad tried to kill himself. My brother went missing for a week. The police had to come and take me to the hospital, because I was going to light myself on fire. I'm on my fourth therapist now. I'm worse than I was 8 years ago. 

My dad was super religious too. Through everything, he still is. He has never missed a day of prayer, even in this hospital. Same with my mom. 

But then I see stuff like this happen to my family, the most religious person I know, and I lose faith. I would never convert away from Sikhism. But faith in god? I don't know. I have no good sangat around me. My mom and dad are the only religious people I know. Everyone here, be it Sikh, Hindu or Muslim, doesn't care about religion much. 

I tried coming online and then I started reading about grooming and stuff like that, issues in Punjab, hate crimes etc. That just made it worse. I just can't think positively. My mind blows everything out of proportion, but I just can't control it. I'll read about how something happens like 1/10000 times. But my brain acts like it's 1/1. So guaranteed. So I panic and message people about it. I really want to apologise to everyone that I messaged. I'm sorry. But I want to thank you, jacfsing2, and jkvlondon for talking to me. Could someone tell StarStriker I'm sorry. I don't think he can see it, since he blocked me. 

After everything that's happened. I just feel so alone. Both as a Sikh and a person. Again, I have no good sangat around me. My parents are a different generation, so they can't really connect with me. My friends are very proud Sikhs, but in the sikh=punjabi, punjabi=sikh way. I come online, and see all this stuff. Then this stuff happens. It just makes things worse for me. Then I end up feeling like I can't even get a sangat online.

So what do I do? How do I have faith in god? Things just feel like they keep getting worse.

> You still have a lot more to live for, don't take your brain cells on an issue like this if you have a mental problem,

that's just the thing. I don't feel like I do. What difference would it be if I killed myself tomorrow? 

Again, I'm really sorry for everything.

> yes he has asked this of us all and from my professional experience he is young and mentally unbalanced, stuckin a mental loop. There is no malice just worry .

It's this, and OCD that is making me worry more. Yes, I am a Sikh. How can I prove it? 

16 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

Vaheguru, don't bother yourself with these issues until after your health is better. It'll only make it worse, focus on your Bhagti at the moment and Jaap Naam.

Thank you

6 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

according to the UK sikh survey 1 in 7 surveyed had been or knew of a person personally who had been groomed  so it is not a little thing. People who go through this are damaged very very badly and usually don't get married and settle down ...

I thought it was 1 in 7 knew of a person who had been groomed or approached by a grooming gang? So it includes the ones who go away before it happened? It's still very fucked up.

14 hours ago, ghettosikh said:

where in canada u from bro if u dont mind me asking. Im also here and belive me the punjabi vs muslim thing is pretty big where i live 

Brampton. What about you?

38 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Alright, but don't worry yourself about these issues then. Focus on your medical issues. 

Thanks. It does help to hear things are getting better.

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Calm yourself down then. We've made leaps and bounds of progress in dealing with this issue. Thank those active brothers and sisters in the UK for highlighting the issue and giving all of you others in the world a heads up on what's going on. 

PS - I think you might have OCD?

- We've made leaps and bounds of progress in dealing with this issue. Thank those active brothers and sisters in the UK for highlighting the issue and giving all of you others in the world a heads up on what's going on. 

That's really good that we've mad progress.

- PS - I think you might have OCD?

It's not OCD, but medicine I have to take causes somehting like that. I am getting help though.

3 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Mate, are you demented? 

You've asked pretty much the same question in a dozen threads here.

- Mate, are you demented?

Yeah, probably. I mean. At least a little bit.

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

You'd be surprised...

I was reading an article a few days ago about a 17 year old Sikh girl who was forced into prostitution. The Muslims used arguments like "I didn't know it was wrong to pay her for sex"

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

It was VERY common during the 80s and 90s. I don't know what the situation is now because I'm older and I don't live in a sullah dominated area anymore. You'd have to ask the younguns, but so many of them seem clueless these days I don't know if they'd even notice it happening - or maybe they turn a blind eye because they are scared or indifferent? Some of the guys who are now in their  30s/40s/50s fought it when they were younger. They are ones who brought it to every ones attention despite our people's persistent effort to sweep it under the rug. They were spot on with their analysis back then - that if we don't put a lid on it, it will get even worse - and it did. A good few apneean went on to get groomed into prostitutes. 

It's not inflated internet stuff. People were highlighting and trying to combat this since before there was an internet. 

On the positive, because these paks went on to groom hordes of vulnerable white girls (in the thousands), the media, police and social services were eventually forced to confront it. Having pictures of groups of Pakistani guys in the newspapers charged with this kind of stuff is a regular occurrence here. Because of this and the efforts of people like Mohan Singh of SAS the denialists amongst our own people have a tougher time trying to play it down these days. 

You say it's mostly a UK thing, but for all we know it could be happening elsewhere with our own people being oblivious to it like they were here for decades? 

- On the positive, because these paks went on to groom hordes of vulnerable white girls (in the thousands), the media, police and social services were eventually forced to confront it. Having pictures of groups of Pakistani guys in the newspapers charged with this kind of stuff is a regular occurrence here

Yeah, I figured Sikh girls would avoid Muslim guys more now. Like how can they not be weary of them? Do you see a lot of legit Muslim guy - Sikh girl relationships in the UK? It's not common here, and here we don't have the Sikh vs Muslim stuff; we're just brown, so we're on the same side.

- You say it's mostly a UK thing, but for all we know it could be happening elsewhere with our own people being oblivious to it like they were here for decades? 

A Sikh girl and I were talking about this two days ago. It's terrifying. I actually spoke to a Sikh and he was helping a Sikh woman who had been groomed in America. In the end, they tried to sell her into a marriage with like a 60 year old. It's fucken disgusting. She got away though.

On 17/10/2016 at 4:33 AM, S4NGH said:

I didn't say it doesn't happen. Read what I said brother.

Or comments saying like this guy sees 17/18 year old Sikh girls hanging out with groups of Muslim men.

On 21/10/2014 at 2:33 PM, Cisco_Singh said:

Majority of the time they will cover it up and the guy they end up marrying will not know....if he finds out after marriage probably guaranteed divorce..

Or if the everyone already knows about the girls relationships ( I know of a girl who ran away with a pakistani guy and missed her own sisters wedding). Then they normally get them married off to unsuspecting guys from india...

I also know of a friend whos relative is a social worker, she visits peoples houses, she has been to the houses of several punjabi families whos daughters have got pregnant by their boyfriends...the families have openly said they are encouraging abortion for their daughters, as they still want to get her "married". Do you think thy will tell the unsuspecting groom ? No chance,,, True stories..

Theres also a clinic near Leicester where a hindu lady called Gupta used to work, she will also tell you of all the indian girls who go to this clinic for abortions because they have got pregnant by their boyfreinds.

Fact is there is alot of messed up stuff going on out there, just because you dont know about ti doesnt mean it doesnt happen. This is Kaljug and people who are not following maharajs path are at the mercy of the 5 thieves...Kaam being the biggest of them..

Did the girl who ran away come back? Are the boyfriends Punjabi Sikhs or Muslims?

On 18/10/2014 at 3:24 PM, singh598 said:

 

When we were about 25 we still all hang around together and session together however i turned my back on them and turned to Sikhi. Now i meet some of them they are all radicalized and wear Muslim attire and keep long beards, one white guy was converted and one sikh converted to islam aswell.

I wonder who converted them? One guy in my year at school he married a sikh girl she left home everything for him. In my area there is a Sikh girl and a Paki went out with her for a couple of years and made her pregnant, she left everythinmg for him and now he has left her aswell. She lives in a flat and on benefits.

What happened to the Sikh girls then? Is the first still with her husband? Did the second come back to Sikhi?

Just now, Akalifauj said:

You will create your own destiny.

ok.

On 17/10/2016 at 4:33 AM, S4NGH said:

I didn't say it doesn't happen. Read what I said brother.

How common is it? You said it's inflated internet nonsense. I've been browsing this website and I've seen things like "everyone has had a Sikh girl" and it sucks.

18 minutes ago, Akalifauj said:

You have been trolling this site.  No one cares where you pretend to live.  Grooming of girls is taking place at a higher rate than ever in Canada.  You are a creep.  Authorities can be made aware of you in a flash.

I'm not trolling. Where in Canada does it happen? I spoke to the SAS if they had offices in Canada to volunteer, but they never replied to me.

On 29/02/2016 at 6:20 PM, simran345 said:

Some Muslim guys tried to influence me to bad ways when I was at University, but God saved me from what my sister went through above just in time. So no it's not imaginary.

How often do they target Sikh girls for this stuff? Is it common?

On 26/07/2016 at 6:24 AM, dallysingh101 said:

 

Yeah, that's what they say:

 

"Everyone's had a Sikh girl."

Seriously? They say that? This is the first time I've heard of it.

On 11/09/2016 at 5:21 PM, genie said:

Every couple I know and read of who are mixed faith Sikhs have not produced Sikh kids who stayed Sikhs even if they were brought up as Sikhs in the beginning.

There is this half white christian and half punjabi Sikh girl on facebook famous for being a slag and always boasting that she is a khalistani yet sleeps around with muslim guys and non-sikhs when she feels like it then goes back to Sikhi once shes bored and so forth. I'm sure you've seen her on facebook if not I can give you her profile link.

there is this half white half punjabi Sikh girl on instagram who also had a Sikh punjabi dad and and atheist white mother she followed her mothers footsteps and the dad from being a religious Sikh guy become a hippy lilly liberal atheist. Net result she has become a trippy hippy rasthafarian pot using drug taking buddhist sleeping around with black guys.

 

Do you have the links?

On 06/10/2016 at 7:23 AM, Guest Jagsaw_Singh said:

Re the: 'For Uk Sikhs: How Common are Sikh/Muslim Relationships in the UK' ?:

Having lived in both Canada and the UK I am well placed to answer this. The answer is that the UK sikh girls with Muslim men problem is only about 10% of the massive Sikh girls with Christian men problem in Canada. Our (UK) sikh girl with muslim men problem is probably at about the same level of the sikh girls with muslim men problem in the greater Toronto area, particularly Mississauga.

The thing you need to remember when forming your opinions about the state of  problems in the UK is the fact that the UK Sikhs, unlike the Canadian and American Sikhs, are notoriously pessimistic and negative. They have a great tendancy to exagerate.

So it's not common then? I live in the GTA and I it's not common here. So it's exaggerated in the UK?

On 08/11/2016 at 3:23 PM, Ranjeet01 said:

 

Plenty of abusive Pakistanis were beaten up to save izzat of our Sikh sisters only for them to run back to these guys.

 

 

 

 

What happened after that? Did they run away with them? It's disgusting.

On 08/11/2016 at 2:50 PM, dallysingh101 said:

Nah, I think it's more of a case of other Muslims would grass up the sulli that would do this quicktime, and she would be on lock down super-quick. Apnay are so dumb, that if someone told the apnee's parents about their daughter, they wouldn't believe them, or would cover it up - sending a clear message to the bunderi that she can do these things and have no big consequences. That's why many apneean end up being the 'bike' in sullay areas. There were loads of them when I was growing up - and they didn't want to hear anything.

 

Does this still happen? How often did it happen then? What do the apneean do when it's over? I can't imagine being a sikh guy and marrying a girl who slept around with a bunch of Muslims.