GurjantGnostic

If I buy the Gurudwara a van is it Daswandh?

And if it just sits in the parking lot doing nothing to alleviate the suffering or face injustices in the community surrounding it?

Is giving money to a Sikh to get a degree to serve the Paanth Daswandh?

What about donations of rifles?

What about funding a martial arts program? A ...truly beyond formidable one? One hundred percent cohesive with Sikhi? 

What about Shaheed Singh's moms rent? That Daswandh?

Just now, proudkaur21 said:

 

dasvandh is mandatory whereas daan is out of daya like you said. But Sikhs give their daan here and there and think their dasvandh duty is done.

Dasvandh is for the Khalsa Paanth, for Dharam Yudh, so who do we give it to exactly. I agree it's mandatory. The spgc? The Gurudwara that does <banned word filter activated> all?

1 Oankar..gives birth to Daya....Daya gives birth Dharam...Khalsa Paanth is birthed to oversee and serve Dharam during Kalyugs for 1 Oankar.

It needs Daswandh to do so, because we're a self funded Fauj sent by God with no budget. 

Our operating costs, training costs, must be met so we can do our duty....of...Daya...and Dharam. 

No where in this is there an issue. 

The problem isn't we spend all the money on langar omgawd... it's we're sitting on our asses largely, not involved in Gurmat largely, doing <banned word filter activated> all largely. Saying our problem is we just aren't selfish enough ..

You're supposed to do both. 

Just now, proudkaur21 said:

But Sikhs dont know the difference between dasvandh and daan. Daan is out of daya for someone and their cause but dasvandh is only for the khalsa and the propogation of the khalsa panth. If i give my money to some cause like natural disaster or a hunger drive that has nothing to do with sikhs or sikhi that would be daan. Most sikhs will just keep giving to their money to any cause and think its dasvandh which is absolutely wrong. Sikhs can give daan if they want but they should know the difference.

And?

Khalsa aid mislabels Daya as Daswandh so Sikhs feel good about their tax exempt donation. Moving on. 

How many Ithias references, Gurmat references, to feeding people did you just <banned word filter activated> ignore?

3 minutes ago, proudkaur21 said:

Guru Gobind Singh ji has said that dasvandh should always go towards the khalsa panth.

He sure did. He also said the Guru's Sikh always has enough the Guru's Sikh always have enough to share. It's called Daya. 

Not a single Sikh in the uk, us or canada that has read the ideas expressed by the quality members of these forums?

Nobody not once huh?

Mmm hmm. 

I see you. Akal sees you. Dharam Rai sees you. Comfy eating a <banned word filter activated> samosa watching reality tv parroting white power politics. 

Any real ones wanna step up and get behind these revolutionary timeless ideas on the sites?  I'm not talking to the posters. I'm talking to all the silent readers. 

Combine Bhai Jagraj Singh Jis message with that of this forum and we should be winning. We should be leading the way. 

We need backing from the Quom. Pick the ideas you like and get with us about it. 

Name one time. In all my posts I lied or did not validate what I said?

Name one. All my crazy stories, claims about world facts, science, Gurmat. Name one time. 

So..we gonna keep serving Langar in big buildings, divided by caste, sometimes to ourselves only, sometimes to other, while we fail to play the <banned word filter activated> harmonium? While we alienate everyone except whitey? We gonna complain only?

Not any real Sikhs doing anything huh?

Word. 

You all might think it's jokes when I offer to intervene in a bad spot, or set up programs in the Gurudwaras to train Shastar Vidya...right ..I hold it down for my people here on a basic income. 

It would not take hardly any money to free me up to teach you to teach other..the purest of martial traditions. I'm one of the top few people in it globally. 

Any interest ever? Nope. 

A large large number of Sikhs read this. Think of the absolute wealth of Gurmat, Ithias and Dharam Yudh, Ranjeet, Khalsa Raj info we have.

How many truly fine threads discussing solutions?

The forums are great. Paanth in that way is Chardikala?

How many Sikhs have stepped forward to help, impliment anything we've discussed?

Sitting in their benzies?

Oh and is this Sikh book club going to be the <banned word filter activated> white people I wanred you about doing exactly what I <banned word filter activated> said they would?

No wonder Jaggis <banned word filter activated> locked up still. 

Oh and even our better orgs... like bos.. don't return emails. 

Swa blatantly lies in cahoots with pakistan about the state of the Paanth and no org contacted even replied. Nor acted on what is public here and readily and widely read by our small global community. Don't fool yourself. There's only two real Sikh forums. 

Even swa didn't respond and I left a review on google that one can not miss. 

Only dude who's Shastar Vidya is good is controversial. 

Bravo Paanth. 

That's why Aikido had to be reseeded. Nice one. 

Kirtanis? Outside of Naamdharis...we have how many that don't suck. Be honest.

I can think of umm..one...two...three..and...the Jagowale Immortal Productions Jatha and that's not even Kirtan. It's Karku Shaheed music. 

Oh and the Katha to other people's beats. 

Rap rules the world. We have rap. The best. Already written. Is our music any the better for it? Nope. 

We have punjabi bhangara <banned word filter activated> <banned word filter activated>. Bravo. 

Liberal. Conservative. Equally worthless overall. Gurmat is not hard to understand. If you have problems it came packaged with the Panacea...the <banned word filter activated> is the issue?

Harmonium? Need I say more?

I must. 

It. Sounds. Like. <banned word filter activated>. It. Takes. A. Master. To. Even. Make. It. Listenable. Your. Gurus. Made. Insturments. 

Your Gurus had Degh Sevadars....

<banned word filter activated>. 

What would the ancestors say eh? 

Practicing a christianized sikhism instead of Purtan Gursikhi? Nalied it. 

Ignorant of Sikhi? <banned word filter activated> birth right. 

Standing up neither to muslims hindus or pommies. Fully versed. 

Simping around imperial abusers looking for a shoe shining job and approval? A safe place. Got that <banned word filter activated> down. 

Trying to imitate imperials forty, one hundred forty, two hundred forty years too late? Got that down. 

Alienating any potential allies you might have and each other? Nailed it. 

Understanding neither miri nor piri? Nailed it. 

No understanding of Dharam Daya or Ithias? Full marks. 

It wouldn't matter if you spent 100 percent on the Paanth. Operating as is? Doesn't matter.  Become 100 selfish? No matter. Because Sikhi is real empty right now and has been. Got a lot of phonies.