ChardikalaUK

6 hours ago, Niara said:

Hindus and Muslims don't seem to give their kids English names.

Hindus most definitely do, they tend to be even more coconut than apne. Muslims will never do something like that though. 

48 minutes ago, Redoptics said:

No lol I was born in the early 80s , got an old school name

I wonder if the Sikhs in Dubai and Malaysia should give their kids names like Muhammad, Ahmed, Rahim?

'Old school',  that sums up apna mentality. Names like Jordan are considered 'modrun' and regular Sikh names are considered old school (and out of fashion?)

I've never heard goreh say names like Mark, Michael, Anthony, John are 'old school', despite them being around for centuries.

The rot is really deep in our community.

Just now, Redoptics said:

I don't need my name to remind of my culture the mirror does that.

Out of curiosity do you have a western name?

1 hour ago, Redoptics said:

Whats in a name? Think a lot of people are making a mountain out of mole hill, you could have a kid with a good old name who is not into Sikhi, then you could have a Paul who is into Sikhi. So what's in a name?

A name is important, it is a constant reminder of your background and culture. It's a big part of your identity. This is something even more important when you are a minority.

Why do you think Goreh Sikhs change their names when they convert?

There are plenty of short Indian names out there. At my school there was a girl called Kulwinderjit and the teachers could say it without much hassle. 

If people can say Tchaikovsky, they can say Kuljeet.

Socrates used to think slavery was perfectly normal. Not exactly the most enlightened person was he?

Eastern philosophers like Confuscious and Buddha were much better.

Just now, GurjantGnostic said:

So does the drunk who plows into a minivan full of kids. Nothing compares to the destructive nature of alcohol. 

You can say they are equally as bad.

A smoker who passes on the smoke to his children is also a fool.

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

So true. But when you've got Nihangs arguing they've got special dispensation to get high off smoking weed it does let the side down.

From what I've read they only drink cannabis, not smoke it. The drink is called Sukha.

What makes smoking worse than drinking is the stench it leaves behind long after the act is done and it also infects the people around who are not taking part.

Growing up, smoking was considered one the most disgusting things a Sikh could do, far worse than drinking. It was seen as something strictly only done by muslims and hindus. Only the most ghatia Sikhs would smoke.

Sadly it seems to be more accepted in our society nowadays.

He did some very good things for us but was out of his element as well when it came to some issues.

He encouraged us to fight back against muslim aggression during partition. He also managed to get us a state in India where we are the majority. These are two very important things. Had these two things not been done we would be speaking and writing in Urdu or Hindi today instead of Gurmukhi Punjabi. Even with his efforts Punjabi language is always under threat from Hindi due to Punjabi Hindus. You can imagine what it would be like without him.

His main negative was his education level. The likes of Jinnah, Nehru and Gandhi went to Oxford/Cambridge and UCL and had high ranking jobs. Tara Singh on the other hand was just a high school teacher. He couldn't compete with Jinnah, Nehru and Gandhi when it came to big matters.

All in all I would say that he was a great man. It's easy to be negative and criticise someone but it takes a bigger man to appreciate when someone has done good things and achieved a lot.

As for him being a Hindu agent, why would he go on hunger strike to get a Punjabi language state formed, something that infuriarated Punjabi Hindus! There were riots between Sikhs and Hindus during this movement.

what an evil man, its a shame that he never got the same treatment as Indira did from us 

On 5/27/2020 at 9:42 PM, proactive said:

Interesting question, I think there are a number of reasons for this-;

While Sikhs might be 58% of Punjab population, the percentage in the rural areas are between 70-90%. Thus the rural areas of Punjab are heavily influenced by Sikhism. What little there is of Hinduism in rural Punjab is just small numbers of Brahmin and Khatri Hindu families owning karyana stores in the villages. Even the Hindu lower castes in rural areas are heavily influenced by Sikhism. Because Sikhism is such a big feature of rural Punjab, it faces no challengers. It is noted that countries or areas where a religion enjoys a virtual monopoly then the adherents of that religion tend to be lax in their beliefs UNLESS the government or the institutions of that religion are active in keeping the adherents zealous in their religion. Such was the case of countries like Pakistan and Bangladesh, from the 50s to the 70s these countries were moderate. It was the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in 1979 and the Islamic revolution in Iran as well as the wahabis of Saudi Arabia exporting their brand of Islam to these countries that led to the rise in Wabahism in Pakistan and Bangladesh. In rural Punjab the government has an active interest to keep the Sikhs lax in their religion. The Sikh institutions like the SGPC are lame duck who are as corrupt as the government. So that is why rural Punjab is lax in Sikhism. However the time when there was an active movement to bring the lax Sikhs to Sikhism such as the period of Sant Jarnail Singh up to 1984, rural Punjab became the epicentre of a renaissance of Sikhism. The opposite is true wherever a religion is in a minority, the adherents of that religion will cling on to their religion because in an area where their religion and they are a majority then they feel under siege because the majority religion takes all the limelight. 

 

Why didn't Sikhi take off in cities? Are we just a bunch of villagers?

22 hours ago, Kaurr said:

You've got a good idea but the goverment probably won't let them. Their main goal is to make punjab a living hell.

keep playing the victim your whole life and never take responsibility.

1 hour ago, Harditsingh said:

idk bro thats the one thing i always respected about most muslim communities.lotta  our ppl most of the time try there hardest to integrate or try to be accepted by white ppl but most muslims i knew in real life didnt care 

And that is why they are disproportionately in high numbers in jail, high numbers of unemployment, high numbers involved in grooming gangs and terrorism. All of these are a result of them not integrating and bringing their backwards thinking here.

Yes keep respecting them for that.

Horses are the greatest animals. Gentle, fast and very strong.

No other animal has done as much for humans and our development as horses have.

4 hours ago, Harditsingh said:

no not terrorist attacks but celebrating there independence giving the authorities a hard time reminding the english ppl that they dont care about integrating to their society because english society is  inferior in their view.

There's a difference between going somewhere as conquerors and going as beggers.

Savage suls, when will our people ever learn that we should never support them on any issue.

This is still very low compared to most developed countries. 

46 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The trick is to give but not expect anything back.

Be outcome independent. 

Yes but if you give and those people then backstab you then the natural reaction is to stop giving. Only a fool would do otherwise.