ChardikalaUK

3 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

So the real issue , since football is a lot more popular is why so few Sikhs have made it professionally 

Because we don't think of sports as a serious career. It's not a bad way of thinking when you think about it. How many people actually make it as a professional athlete? Very few. It's better to have lots of educated Sikh professionals instead of masses of uneducated people some of whom are good at sports.

At the end if the day they are just games, nothing more. 

8 minutes ago, shastarSingh said:

there r so many UK born pakistanI kids in county cricket but just couple of Sikhs. why so ?

First of all their population is bigger than ours and they are more cricket obsessed. I would say that Sikhs are less obssessed about cricket compared to Hindus and Muslims. Even in Punjab you don't see that many apne play it, which makes the fact that Sikh cricketers have done so well even more impressive.

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

Are you saying putting total force of your body vs more controlled slower force is less strain? 
 

why damage yourself physically if you can achieve similar outcomes with a different approach? 
 

a lot of fast bowlers get many chronic injuries. Not saying spin bowlers don’t but I know which option I would choose 

In England spinners are not guaranteed a spot in the team, the conditions are more suited to fast bowlers, especially those who can swing the ball.

Cricket is already considered quite unathletic to most sports and the fact that not many Indians or Sikhs have not done well in fast bowling just makes us look weak.

1 hour ago, Premi5 said:

They're sensible and know it is less strain on the body.

Also, Virdi, Panesar and Harbhajan Singh are all from Ramgharia background, so maybe it's because they're 'good with their hands'

Less strain on the body? This is baaniya talk!

Jasprit Bumrah is also Ramgarhia but bowls very quick.

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

How come all Singh's are spinners.

I have never seen a Singh who is a fast bowler. 

Jasprit Bumrah is a mona. He's probably the best fast bowler in the world at the moment.

22 hours ago, puzzled said:

Years ago I worked at a royal mail letter sorting centre and this indian man actually asked me if I know where you can get girls for s3x!  "call girls"

First he just said something like it's hard to get girls or talk to girls and I said something like no it's not, he then said but they dnt have s3x   and then he asked me if I know where you can get call girls!  I was gobsmacked   

He was in his 40s and looked like Apu! 

The fact he felt like he could casually ask me that actually really offended me.  But then for these Apu's it's pretty normal I guess. 

I work in IT with a lot off Indians who come over for one year of UK work experience. They are dirty perverts.

Despite being educated they also have bad hygiene, a lot won't even flush the toilets after using them. However they love combing their hair non stop, thinking they are some Bollywood actor.

Who cares what they say. We glorify Ranjit Singh, Hari Singh Nalwa, Banda Singh Bahadur, they glorify the Mughal kings and even foreign invaders who ravaged them like Abdali and Babur.

There are cases here in the UK, I've noticed it's usually in the Afghan Sikh communities.

Maybe it's more widespread in North America

Most UK Sikhs who came over from India in the 1960s - 90s were already married or came to get married. They were much more family oriented. Not a bunch of illegal immigrants or fake students, hanging around and going through life aimlessly with similar people. That is what a lot of Sikh immigration in the last 20 years has been like.

3 hours ago, TigerForce1 said:

So if Hindus living in India in the 21st century decide to make their eldest son follow a modern faith like ‘Scientology’, would this link the two faiths?  How stupid does this statement sound when you insert Scientology and yet by inserting ‘Sikhi’ you expect people to take this seriously.  Religion does not have ‘DNA’ like ethnicity, so this statement sounds even more dumb when somebody throws it at you.

Ok fair point, but you have exaggerated too much.

12 minutes ago, AjeetSingh2019 said:

did u see her comment. boils my blood. 

If Sikhs worked so hard and made so many sacrifices for their own cause than for the hindu masters, we would have  progressed so much 

Yes it's annoying.

However whether we like it or not, there is a link between Sikhi and Hinduism in India, a lot of Punjabi Hindus did make their eldest son a Sikh, how do you feel about that? Would you have preferred if they never did that?

48 minutes ago, Kau89r8 said:

both bad as each other 2 sides of same coin......

No, live amongst Hindus and then Muslims in the UK. The Hindus are not outright aggressive like muslims.

1 hour ago, JSinghnz said:

You are again being repeating yourself by posting another joke of a reply.

Lots of immigrants around the world are proud to be multilingual as compared to some confused people who forget about their roots and think everyone is like them.

They are multilingual for the first 2 generations and then the language begins to disappear. I can speak Punjabi as my parents were born in Punjab but most people i know whose parents were born in this country can barely speak it. I have seen it with my own eyes. Keep burying your head in the sand and living in your fantasy land. I have asked you to give me examples of immigrants who have been in another country for several years and can still speak the native language, you have again failed to do so.

Sikhs have only been in New Zealand in big numbers for 10-15 years. Have a look what will happen in the next 50 years.

1 hour ago, proactive said:

Looks like there are four Sikhs out of the 20. Really sad that they lost their lives defending the interests of the country which committed genocide on their people. 

It's actually 5, Ankush Thakur is a Sardar. 

So that's 1/4 of all dead. We are less than 2% of the population. I want over representation in CEOs and technical jobs, not the army.

1 hour ago, MisterrSingh said:

Yes, that does surprise me. You'd think they'd kind of begrudgingly respect the "seva" (not my perception) undertaken by the Gandhi dynasty, especially against Sikhs, but Modi's crew don't seem to like them at all.

They hate muslims far more than Sikhs. They are angry at Gandhi and Nehru's family appeasement of muslims and rightly so. The muslims got to have Pakistan and Bangladesh so why are there still an equal amount of muslims in India as those two countries?

I think two apne were killed Satnam Singh and Mandip Singh.

Apparently China also lost 43 soldiers.

54 minutes ago, puzzled said:

Russian soldiers     now someone looking like this i wouldn't wanna mess around with lol     

Whats Russias relationship with India like?    i been reading about the ww2 and the cold war recently 

 

 

Good luck moving that frame in sub zero high altitude climates like Kashmir and Ladakh. This is war with guns and rockets, not a boxing or wrestling match.

11 minutes ago, puzzled said:

they just dnt look like warriors 

 

Most soldiers are not muscle bound. Cardio is of the most importance, not being able to bench press 100kg, which is useless to a modern soldier. Guns mean that battles take place at long distance so physical strength doesn't matter.

I see some low key racism against 'bhaiyas' here, at the end of the day they are the ones doing most of the hard farming in Punjab and cycling rickshaws carrying over 150kg while we are now officially the fattest people in India.

I doubt any full scale war will happen. There's simply too much to lose for both nations, their economies will suffer greatly.

34 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

You are speaking as someone  further down the curve, your perspective is different. 

You are telling them their family's future 50-60 years down the line.

More recent immigrants find this hard to grasp.

Yep, just look at the descendants of Sikhs who moved to America, Canada, Argentina in the late 19th Century, they can't speak Punjabi at all and who can blame them. Even Italians, who make up the biggest racial group in Argentina can't speak Italian, they only know Spanish.

I'm going to have my own child very soon. I will make every effort to send him to Punjabi school but that's just one or two hours a week. I don't know how much he will learn in that time and whether he will still be interested in going as he gets older. He won't be hearing much Punjabi being spoken between my wife and I, the only place he will hear it regularly is from the grandparents and he'll probably just end up speaking to them in English eventually.

4 hours ago, JSinghnz said:

Punjabi of course.

Were you born in India or New Zealand?

14 hours ago, JSinghnz said:

What a joke of a reply. Instead of trying to realize the importance of saving mother languages, you want people not to move from their place of origin 

It's not a joke, it's an answer based on reality unlike most posts on this thread. Sure it's great to keep the language alive but based on the history of other countries it's highly unlikely.

By the 4th generation the language is pretty much dead amongst 80-90% of the people. Just look at Indian people in South Africa and the Carribean where they have been longer than the UK.

Do you speak English or Punjabi to your friends and siblings?

This happens to pretty much every immigrant group. By the 3rd and 4th generation the mother language is gone. Just look at America, the Americans of Italian, German, Dutch and French descent can no longer speak their original languages.

If language means so much to you then it's best not to move from your place of origin.