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On 7/9/2023 at 8:23 PM, californiasardar1 said:

 Today's Punjabis speak a different language than my parents. They use different kinds of Punjabi/Hindi words for certain things than my parents did, and they constantly insert English words into Punjabi sentences (even when there are perfectly good Punjabi words they could use). They also abuse English words. For example, if they say someone easily gets "mixed-up," they don't mean to say that they get easily confused. They mean that that person "mixes well" socially with others. They also say things in cringe-worthy ways like: "tension naa lai."

 

Languages and societies evolve all of the time. You can't expect Punjab to be the same place it was back in the 1960s - 1980s. 

9 hours ago, californiasardar1 said:

I actually think that the exodus of Sikhs from Punjab may be a blessing it disguise. It may have the unintended consequence of "de-jatt-ifying" Sikhi.

Maybe if jatts become a small enough proportion of Punjabi Sikhs, they will no longer dominate, and it will open the door for a more open, diverse Sikh community that is unconstrained by tribal identities and has a real potential for growth.

If that ever happens Sikhs will easily be a minority in Punjab. Jatts are 60% of our population I believe. 

12 hours ago, imhosingh said:

I go to India often...when in the pind the smell of 'weed' is everywhere when you travel between villages. It literally grows like a 'weed'...it is everywhere...

For me it shows how 'thick' cultural Punjabis are...they would spend their money on alcohol , vetinary drugs, hard drugs like heroin...while weed grows everywhere and it's free.

If weed grew everywhere in the UK do you reckon the locals would drink or do as much in the way of harder drugs? Definitely not 

 

Paet of the allure of drugs is that it is forbidden and exotic. Magic mushrooms grow in the UK yet very few locals eat them. 

Leave the Conservative voting to the BJP fanatical Hindus in the west. 

2 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

My mums pinds last 5 years there has been so many deaths all native Sikhs like nana generation kids are gone (passed away or abraod) empty khotis with bhaiya enjoying. Legit there is you can count in fingers Sikh 'jatt' left .. sad

Sikhs will bee minority in Panjab <5 yrs.. all this fighting for panth seems waste 

We are no different to Bhaiyas. They leave UP/Bihar for a better life and we move to western countries. 

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Sounds like a 'self-inflicted' problem to me.  But don't worry, these people's offspring will be living a life they've always dreamed about abroad.....

Whilst singing songs about so called Rangla Punjab. 

It's a failed culture.

1 hour ago, Kau89r8 said:

Any race who is willing to come into Sikhi? 

I remember reading your post yrs ago about your wife death it was really moving. Curious to know how you reached this point in your life next chapter. Been going through tough time in my life 

I've seen many Sikh guys marrying difference races (there is a saying gora faso panth vadao lol) and raising kids in Sikhi .....good to expand the panth outside punjabi imo lol 

Pretty much every mixed race Sikh boy that I've seen raised wearing a guti ends up cutting their hair. 

You've got to be crazy for considering marrying a South American catholic. 

If you are going to get a mail order bride go east whether that is India or further east. 

We are a dying community. Mass migration from out of Punjab and low birth rates will end us. I can see us being like Parsis one day. 

We're a minority in virtually every city in Punjab apart from Anandpur Sahib, always have been. Jalandhar and Ludhiana have a massive Hindu majority. 

My Grandparents from my Dad's side had 11 Grandchildren, 8 of us are outside of India, even 2 of the 3 left want to move, just the loser cousin who wants to stay. That's the mentality over there. It's a mass exodus. 

2 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

There's just so much confusing regarding identity. It looks like desi apnay actually think the word 'Panjabi' means 'Sikh'?????? 

Yes it is stupidity of the highest order. I don't think most rural Sikhs in India realise that we're only a slight majority in Punjab. 

36 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

What makes you think I live with my mom?????????

Plus, the point was about our genuine history and culture. That doesn't mean I want to take opium etc. 

 

Opiates are the one drugs you do not want to mess with. They completely ruined China and turned them into a third world country for a century. Any neighbourhood with hard drugs users tends to be a violent hell hole. 

9 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

I have no idea to what extent that their cousin marriage is prevalent since they do not seem to have the same level of health issues, but I could be wrong though.

When it comes to figures they would be grouped with other Sikhs so it wouldn't show up prevalently in government statistics. On the other cousin marriage is prevalent in almost all Muslim groups. 

15 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

You're retarded. You don't even know your own cultures attitude and history towards these things. Be this Panjabi or Sikh.  Go back in your cave Pinky. The real world is obviously too complex and scary for you.  

 

And try learning about your own history and culture whilst you're at it, so you can spare us from your uninformed horseshyte.  

Well if you want to relive taking opium and cannabis go back to Punjab. We've seen what a great impact opium is having there these days. Grow up and try to move out of your parents house before you're 50.

3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Why don't you look at the drug dealing murderers in Canada a bit closely? Who started that? How many apnay have died over that?   Who are the main culprits of Sikh on Sikh murders? 

PS - I know you know little about your heritage. What is drug selling? A few years ago selling/growing cannabis was illegal in Canada - now it's not. So it went from being a criminal act to not - like that. 

Some of our ancestors used cannabis as well as opium in certain situations. If some sold some of this to others, does that make them 'criminal drug dealers'?? 

You sound like another retarded apnee. You must be from west London.

In terms of people smuggling, there is a world of difference between people smuggling people  to sexually exploit and use them - to smuggling people for economic migration. I'm not a fan of either, but the first is infinitely worse than the latter. 

Anyway, f**k off back to your closeted cave.  What a sheltered life you must have led. 

In the big scheme of things, and the problems we are facing as a community, this is nothing.

You come across as someone who was bullied by jatts, Mr Hardman fraam fackin East Landan. If you go back far enough some of our ancestors walked around naked. The fact is drug dealing is illegal and in general ruins societies. I think every country should follow the Singapore model in terms of zero tolerance towards drugs. 

3 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Well, if you twats didn't jump on every opportunity to do it, I wouldn't have to mention it. Look closer to home. I'm glad they stopped the stupid peasant Vasaikhi mela down your ends.  

 

Plus do some searches on the forum, you'll find a lot from me over the years, including translations, book reviews and actual serious discussions. If I've been reduced to having to highlight the stupid 'culture' that comes (unabated)  from certain quarters recently, don't shoot the messenger, try dealing with the mor0ns that are pushing their low-brow, barn-dancing culture so hard on the panth and the rest of the world. Hypocrite, don't want to look at your own but quick to point fingers everywhere else. 

 

 

 

I'm not even jatt, I just find your constant bashing of them pathetic, as if other castes in Punjab don't do the same things. Yes I've heard about the wife sharing they did back in the day but that is long gone. 

1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

The Afghan Sikhs have biradri system. Their clan like nature has benefits and they do give each other a helping hand.

That aspect of their culture combined with the mercantile-ness as well the environment they come from makes them quite adept in the smuggling business and money laundering. 

We have absolute no idea of what things they got up to back in Afghanistan. 

Punjabis and Gujaratis do not network in the same manner and do not have the same mindset. 

 

Yes, their inbreeding also makes more of them related to each other, further strengthening their ties. But as with sulley and any other group that practices inbreeding they are heavily represented when it comes to serious birthing defects. 

20 hours ago, dallysingh101 said:

Mate, this is nothing to me? I'm from E.London, if I've learnt anything, people are going make money one way or another. As long as these lot aren't screwing over their own. 

I'd be more concerned about rich, spoilt jut boys in Canada killing each over in droves over drug deals. That is really sad, and such a waste of live.  

So you condone drug dealing and people smuggling. What a piece of work you are. 

Not to mention 90% of your posts are on bhangra and jatts. 

These criminals are scumbags. 

5 hours ago, Kau89r8 said:

kinda of agree... afghani Sikhs have done way better job then poonjabi 'Sikhs' they have unity take pride in their Sardari and general nice ppl then punjabi .. Southall would have been empty without Afghani Sikh population been taken over by somalias

Their incest disgusts me. I find them half way between us and sulley in their outlook on life. 

Not surprised. The Afghan Sikhs are far richer than your average Punjabi/Gujarati shop owner from the 70s-90s were. Now we know where that extra cash is coming from. 

They buy houses in expensive parts of Southall/Hounslow and cars in cash. A lot of their shops are involved in the drugs business. All while keeping Sikhi saroop. 

1 hour ago, dallysingh101 said:

I don't think we are that 'beggar' in general. Those 'cousins' from across the border with their social housing addiction and the way their country is constantly begging others for bail outs for their failed economy are infinitely worse.  

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/04/24/channel-migrants-small-boats-albanians-indians-smugglers/

Apne have now overtaken Albanians on illegal boats coming from France. 

54 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Maybe when they are young. A lot seem to let go after they are married and become a sort of 'butch' ਝੋਟੀ, where their salwaar kammeezs get stretched to a point where it looks like the incredible hulk at the beginning of his transformation, where his shirt is about rip asunder under his growth.    

Well it could be worse, they could be wearing saris, exposing rolls upon rolls of back fat!

This is what happens when you are a begger kaum. 

42 minutes ago, Ranjeet01 said:

In our tradition, we consider men and women as equals.

There were female warriors who fought in battles.

Our women are not a passive bunch.

However, does this make our women lose aspects of their femininity and make them more masculine?

In theory we may consider them equal but are they treated so? 

Punjab has one of the worst levels of female foetocide in India. Gianis are all men, in the west the Katha and Kirtan are all done on the men's side of the gurdwara, the committee members are all men. There has never been a female chief minister in Punjab or the head of a political party. 

Having some historical female warriors like Mai Bhago, Joan of Arc, Boudica does not tell you anything about the attributes of the wider female population of a group. Sikh women in India are very feminine. It is in the west where women and men are seen as more equals and that is where Sikh women have picked up some masculine behaviours such as focusing on their careers and getting married later. 

On 4/19/2023 at 12:56 AM, dallysingh101 said:

For those interested. The word 'curry' occurs in Dasam Granth:

 

ਸਤੂਅਨ ਕਰੀ ਬਨਾਇ ਕੈ ਤਾ ਮੈ ਬਧ੍ਯੋ ਬਨਾਇ ॥

After making the curry of barley she placed in it a statue carved out flour dough.

 

https://www.sikhawareness.com/topic/19642-sri-charitropakhyan-sahib-jee-series-charitar-89/#comment-180456

 

Don't most apne call it thurry?